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6/23/2016

Historic House Sit-In Is Historic

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:33 am



The Democrats are conducting a historic sit-in which is historic. They are trying to take guns from Americans without due process, and so this is a civil rights issue, you see. (I have already discussed how Republicans have their own bills that address the concerns raised by Democrats, but in a more responsible way that does not step on due process. If the government has you on a list, it should know why it put you there — and it should not take long to explain those reasons to a judge.) The ACLU opposes the Democrat proposals. But all you’ll hear from Big Media is that John Lewis is involved, and it’s historic. Historic, I say!

What’s it really about? Fundraising.

77 Responses to “Historic House Sit-In Is Historic”

  1. Squirrel! Don’t look at Islam, look at those scary squirrels armed with assault weapons of war. Save lives – vote down the 2nd amendment, abandon the concept of due process.

    The Islamic terrorist you save may live to behead your children.

    ropelight (596f46)

  2. Squirrel!

    Don’t look at all those Black Americans shot to death in the inner cities!

    Patricia (5fc097)

  3. Quit using the House for your telethon. PBS can’t survive the competition.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  4. Black people should not have guns.

    nk (dbc370)

  5. Don’t look at all those Black Americans shot to death in the inner cities!

    Patricia, are you suggesting blacks are not responsible enough to have the right to own firearms? Racist, I denounce you!

    Rev. Hoagie® (734193)

  6. We have officially “transitioned” into a banana republic.
    Democrat members of the institution formed by the founding fathers to provide a forum for debate and deliberation have abandoned any hope of appealing to reason and logic, and instead have decided to endorse a species of mob rule.
    Why are leftists so enamored with tactics reeking of force and coercion?

    orcadrvr (3cc3b1)

  7. Why are leftists so enamored with tactics reeking of force and coercion?

    For the same reason the scorpion stung the frog.

    Rev. Hoagie® (734193)

  8. When leftists illegally take over federal property they are praised and lauded. When citizens try the same they are arrested and killed.

    njrob (c4a768)

  9. Oh, I wish the decent people of Chicago could own guns! Maybe then they would stop the mass gang killing in the Democrat gulags!

    Patricia (5fc097)

  10. squirrels for sure should not have guns

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  11. Instilling the idea of being persecuted inspires solidarity and loyalty among group members. It’s group paranoia and there’s a lot of it going around these days.

    DRJ (15874d)

  12. If the government has you on a list, it should know why it put you there — and it should not take long to explain those reasons to a judge.

    That wouldn’t have prevented Omar Mateen from buying his guns, since he was off the list, so the Democratic
    proposal is that anyone who ever was on the No-Fly list (at first it was who was on the list within the last five years) should be barred from purchasing guns.

    If you gave only a limited amount of time to the government to go before a judge, the whole thing wouldn’t work, because the government, since it took him off the list, wouldn’t have sufficient grounds to do anything. They’d have to investigate and see if they could come up with a reason.

    Sammy Finkelman (7a22e4)

  13. But when the Republicans hold up government, its just terrible, terrible.

    Patrick Henry, the 2nd (ddead1)

  14. You know something, by making a show of fighting for legislation that they know cannot pass into law, the Democrats are imitating Ted Cruz. Except that Ted Cruz didn’t actualy disrupt the working of the Senate.

    Sammy Finkelman (7a22e4)

  15. 9.Oh, I wish the decent people of Chicago could own guns! Maybe then they would stop the mass gang killing in the Democrat gulags!

    That’s a nice thought, Patricia but there are no “decent people” left in Chicago. They’re either leftist democrat operatives or leftist democrat enablers. The “decent people” moved out long ago.

    Rev. Hoagie® (734193)

  16. Didn’t all those people doing the sit-in against handguns actually stand up in favor of Iran’s nuclear program?

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  17. I find it ironic these people are democrats when five decades ago a Republican named Martin Luther Kung Jr. carried a gun and was on the FBI watch list.

    Rev. Hoagie® (734193)

  18. You can own all the guns you want in Chicago if you are not a felon, a spouse abuser, an addict, or mentally ill; and keep them in your home, land, or fixed place of business. No registration, no permit, just the Illinois Firearm Owner’s Identification card which is issued to anyone without the above disabilities who can pay $5.00. If you want to carry concealed in public, you can get a concealed carry permit. That’s a little more involved and more expensive.

    nk (dbc370)

  19. This is the same-old same-old. Remember when they walked with arms linked across the maul through throngs of Tea Partyers on the day that they rammed through ObamaCare? They figured someone in the crowd would be rude enough to turn this into a domestic Abu Ghraib that would allow them divert attention from their own behavior. And the media bought their reports that they had been subjected to racial slurs, etc., at least until Breitbart offered $100K for anyone who could provide a recording supporting their lies. But by that time it was “old news”, meaning the LHMFM could ignore the real story.

    If 50% of the country finds this transparently manipulative behavior commendable, we’re screwed.

    We’re screwed.

    BobStewartatHome (404986)

  20. 16. Most of them, probably, but not every last one of them, I would guess. Bit the Iran deal was sold as preventing Iran from getting a nuclear weapon.

    Sammy Finkelman (7a22e4)

  21. In New York City, somebody recently was indicted for paying off police to approve gun licenses in two months instead of the usual year, including some who wouldn’t have gotten one at all.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/19/nyregion/brooklyn-man-accused-of-improperly-obtaining-handgun-licenses.html?_r=0

    Mr. Lichtenstein tried to bribe an officer to help him obtain pistol licenses, offering him $6,000 per license and telling him he had already obtained an estimated 150 permits over the last year through his connections at the License Division, a claim the officer secretly recorded, the complaint said…

    …In one instance, a man whose license application fee was paid for with Mr. Lichtenstein’s credit card was approved for a full-carry permit in July 2013, despite a forgery arrest, four domestic violence complaints, three car accidents and 10 moving violations. They were all red flags that could have barred him from obtaining a permit. Months later, a complaint was made to the police that Mr. Lichtenstein used his connections to get the man a license despite his history of domestic violence, but it apparently was not investigated, the criminal complaint said.

    Sammy Finkelman (7a22e4)

  22. Black people should not have guns.

    nk (dbc370) — 6/23/2016 @ 8:01 am

    That’s racist.

    What would have made it better? Talent contest. Republican Representatives armed with nerf guns as the judges. (YouTube)

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  23. The group with the most guns per capita is ISIS.
    If only Democrats would do a middle-of-the-night sit-in to protest ISIS running around with guns.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  24. Gun control is racist. There is a direct correlation — a very strong, direct correlation — between stringent gun control laws and having dark people around. The fewer the dark people, the fewer the restrictions on firearms. As exemplified by Vermont which has never had dark people to speak of and no gun control.

    nk (dbc370)

  25. I actually tried to look up the origin and evolution of gun rights and gun laws in America, nk. It became so convoluted by mid 1800’s racist drivel and a bunch of lawyerspeak© I finally surrendered in disgust. But yeah, it seems to have a lot to do with the democrats wanting blacks unarmed.

    Rev. Hoagie® (734193)

  26. Yes but keep in mind Yee’s (correct spelling) indictment was payback for switching his vote and joining a bloc of Asian-American assemblymen and state senators to vote against more affirmative action set-asides

    http://www.mintpressnews.com/bid-to-revive-affirmative-action-in-calif-roils-asian-americans/189978/

    see section after “Temporary Hiccup” – if the source publication is lefty drivel, pardon the source, I beg thee.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  27. Thank you for the spelling correction. And I mean that, sincerely, I’m not being sarcastic.

    But regarding Leland whatshisname, it was a Baptists and Bootleggers arrangement.

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  28. Not saying that Yee wasn’t willing to sell his vote for all sorts of reasons.

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  29. Also known as a Ralph Reed casino gambling arrangement (RR was hired by neighboring states with existing casinos to help casino gaming opponents in Georgia)

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  30. From a comment at althouse

    http://althouse.blogspot.com/2016/06/the-democrats-are-boldly-fighting-for.html

    No matter the right or wrong, or the reason, he [Paul Ryan] completely lost control of the House, and he looks weak and ineffective as a leader.

    He shouldn’t have returned to the floor to be shouted down…

    This erson adds didn;’t he ay attention to the Act 10 protests in Wisconsin?

    Sammy Finkelman (7a22e4)

  31. The Democrats would not have done this if they did not know that Ryan is a weak sister who would not turn off the House cameras, not expel the reporters, and not have the Sergeant-at-arms evict the sitters. They had plenty of time to take his measure and they know his spine is the consistency of a boiled noodle. A genuine, dyed-in-the-wool, Republican, in other words.

    nk (dbc370)

  32. And I have no clue why my comment at 3:35 went into moderation.

    nk (dbc370)

  33. A yuuge step for mankind when traitor Ryan is not re-elected.

    mg (31009b)

  34. Greetings:

    Where’s Bull Connor when you need him ???

    11B40 (6abb5c)

  35. Greetings:

    I think that it’s time that all those Democratic-ruled cities that denied American citizens their Second Amendment rights for generations be sued for appropriate reparations.

    11B40 (6abb5c)

  36. It does not help when 47 Republicans agree that a no-fly list should be the basis for a gun ban, trying to fool the people with a “due process” lipstick on the pig. The no-fly list is already a violation of due process. Thanks, Shrub.

    nk (dbc370)

  37. This is a copy and paste of my previous comment which went into moderation:

    The Democrats would not have done this if they did not know that Ryan is a weak sister who would not turn off the House cameras, not expel the reporters, and not have the Sergeant-at-arms evict the sitters. They had plenty of time to take his measure and they know his spine is the consistency of a boiled noodle. A genuine, dyed-in-the-wool, Republican, in other words.

    nk (dbc370)

  38. I never would have thought crying J.Boehner had one more nut than the nutless Ryan.

    mg (31009b)

  39. if they did not know that Ryan is a weak sister who would not turn off the House cameras, not expel the reporters, and not have the Sergeant-at-arms evict the sitters.

    I read at hot air that they did turn off the House cameras. The video is/was from one of the representative’s cell phones, patched through CSPAN.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  40. He did turn off the cameras from my understanding, and the filming of it was from someone’s cell phone feed being picked up by CSPAN.

    I recently read somewhere a number of quotes from the time of the Constitution about gun ownership that were clear in saying that the “militia” was meant to be everyone who could responsibly handle a firearm.

    And I believe a major early effort of the NRA was to help African Americans learn to defend themselves against lynch mobs.

    But facts don’t mean what they used to.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  41. https://www.google.com/#q=brexit

    The Brexit vote is highly volatile. Four lead changes since the opening of tabulations.

    RIGHT now, with 2.6% reporting it’s
    48.6%
    287,727 to stay

    51.4%
    304,913 to leave the European Union

    Do we care about this? Just an amusement? Britain as a fully actualized country, or as a member state in the United States of Europe? (I think they started the EU with the goal of being the USofE so as they could complain of our using “U.S.”)

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  42. events on that end of the atlantic, do tend to echo over here, the ukip/tory is the trump/ryan
    analogue,

    narciso (732bc0)

  43. actually cameron is more like the medici/mittens.

    narciso (732bc0)

  44. The history of the British Empire is the British searching the world for something decent to eat. If they can’t freely travel to Europe anymore, they’ll have to import a lot more French, German, Italian and Greek chefs and subsidize their restaurants.

    nk (dbc370)

  45. (I think they started the EU with the goal of being the USofE so as they could complain of our using “U.S.”)

    The Mexicans, whose country is officially United States of Mexico, have been doing that for a long while.

    kishnevi (c2a547)

  46. that’s what walter raleigh was on about, snorfle,

    narciso (732bc0)

  47. Should I cool it or should I blow?

    If I stay there will be trouble. If I go there will be double.

    I think I’d like it more if the bulk of the EU could vote member states off the island as it were.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  48. Can the United States vote to expel Massachusetts?

    Okay, I was really talking about California. Massachusetts was just the beard.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  49. her stinky pig is even more historic than this sit-in

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  50. How about this. Can the several states vote as states to expel a state government?
    Force say California for example to dismiss state government and reconstitute the state with a new charter?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  51. well the uk is more like texas, in that it was an independent republic, before it was a state, but brussels wants to keep its claws in brittania,

    narciso (732bc0)

  52. Yes – Leave It (Official Music Video)

    Dedicated to our UK cousins.

    Leave it – has expanded it’s lead.

    5.2% Reporting
    Votes
    Remain a member of the European Union
    48.9%
    661,694
    Leave the European Union
    51.1%
    691,415

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  53. if LEAVE wins they’ll just Paul Ryan it and make like a vote for leave doesn’t mean leave leave

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  54. Force say California for example to dismiss state government and reconstitute the state with a new charter?

    No, the several states could not. The United States could if it violated any of more than a few Constitutional provisions — from minting money in other than gold or silver to making war against Oregon, and lots of things in-between. Take a peek at the Constitution. The Civil Rights acts, too.

    nk (dbc370)

  55. So Jerry Brown cutting bad checks is grounds for divorce?

    I’m reasonably confident we could take Oregon in a pound for pound fight.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  56. First we’ll disable the gas station attendants, effectively immobilizing the populous.

    Then it’s pretty much the devil’s playground, Grants Pass to the border.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  57. Hold on. (Wilson Phillips)

    Stay has mounted a rally.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  58. There are still states in the South whose elections are under federal supervision. The NYPD is too.

    nk (dbc370)

  59. These thief’s stole the peoples money to become millionaires, and now sit in the most protected building in D.C. as a protest! AK-47 appears to be what that sit in for stupid needs.

    mg (31009b)

  60. No one mentioned this above so I will. Trump supports the Democrats’ efforts to restrict gun rights and he even lobbied the NRA to support him a mere 10 days ago.

    DRJ (15874d)

  61. The NRA did endorse him at its convention. Half the members there gave themselves a facepalm. But it is a single issue organization and Hillary truly is much worse on gun rights. Infinitely worse. She favors total gun confiscation. At least with Trump, people who max out their political contributions to the right politicians will be able to get gun permits.

    nk (dbc370)

  62. I think Trump will go for – Only property owners can vote.

    mg (31009b)

  63. Mr. Trump will do good on the guns don’t you worry

    but today is a brexciting day to enjoy and not do the squabble squabble

    i got a pocket got a pocket full of brexit 🙂

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  64. you don’t have a problem with him breeding five wiggly little fetuses with his three brood sows?

    nk (dbc370)

  65. RIP – Mike Flynn

    mg (31009b)

  66. i’m nothing if not inconsistent Mr. nk

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  67. Meditation on this tweet would serve the Pattericon community well.

    Take a minute.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  68. What this (http://reason.com/blog/2016/06/15/no-fly-list-no-guns-trump-agrees-with-ob) says to me is Trump doesn’t know where to land on this issue.
    I’m liking his choice of experts to consult with.

    Also it says to me that Reason.com would benefit from a few minutes meditation on this tweet.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  69. Trump is evolving? Unfortunately, he’s evolving to where he agrees with the political establishment that hates all us hicks and losers.

    DRJ (15874d)

  70. Donald Trump will never believe anyone but himself. Nor will you, for that matter.

    DRJ (15874d)

  71. There was an ice skating rink, an iconic part of downtown New York I guess, closed in 1980 for an upgrade. Six years later Donald Trump takes over the project and fixes it in four months.

    How did he do it? Trump doesn’t know ice rinks. So he calls the NHL to send an expert.

    Trump knowing that he doesn’t know about ice rinks leads him to call people who do.

    That’s whats happening at your link DRJ.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  72. Nor will you, for that matter

    It’s the short attention span what done it. If I’d just stop fidgeting. Ma had the self same complaint.

    papertiger (c2d6da)


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