Trump’s New Political Ad: “He Starts To Bite On My Top Lip And I Try To Pull Away From Him”
[guest post by Dana]
Also, during an interview last week, Trump fired a shot at the Clintons when he used the word “rape” with regard to Bill Clinton .
The Clinton camp pushed back:
“Trump is doing what he does best, attacking when he feels wounded and dragging the American people through the mud for his own gain. If that’s the kind of campaign he wants to run, that’s his choice.
No response from either Bill or Hillary Clinton about this new ad.
–Dana
A Clinton campaign ad reading Ivana’s depo testimony should be forthcoming shortly. You know – the depo testimony describing the rape perpetrated by Trump himself.
Which whould be a fatal ad, if not for the fact that Trump’s supporters are basically bad people.
Leviticus (e172f9) — 5/23/2016 @ 9:12 pmHere we go.
Dana (0ee61a) — 5/23/2016 @ 9:12 pmYeah, it was a shocking tangential response on my part
Leviticus (e172f9) — 5/23/2016 @ 9:18 pmLeviticus,
I posted what I thought was the first comment. I see we posted at the same time!
Funny. Such an ad wouldn’t matter because nothing changes his supporters minds. And also because Ivana has disavowed her claim made during a rancorous divorce.
Dana (0ee61a) — 5/23/2016 @ 9:25 pmThe beauty of Trump’s attack ads are that the snowflakes who live on their EBT cards, or their NSF grants, have never heard the charges against William Jefferson Clinton. They will be baffled.
The question is what will they do about it? As far as they know, the impeachment of Clinton was pure politics. Like the ad showing Ryan pushing Granny in her well chair over the cliff. And why wasn’t Ryan prosecuted for that, they wonder still. Did Granny have a parachute?
Perhaps Trump is right guy for the times. He will never make the mistake of overestimating the American public.
BobStewartatHome (404986) — 5/23/2016 @ 9:35 pmSo let me get this straight. Trump invited a rapist who he knew was a rapist to his wedding? http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2016/news/160314/donald-hillary-800.jpg And gave money to that rapist’s wife? And Trump’s sister accepted an appointment to the Third Circuit Court of Appeals from that very same rapist?
Sigh. I’ll never understand New York values.
nk (dbc370) — 5/23/2016 @ 9:54 pmYes, nk. It’s a strange world.
Hard to see the mudslinging when both parties are deep, deep beneath the mud.
I thought of you as my kids and I watched that Greek Wedding movie. What is your position on Windex?
Simon Jester (2002f6) — 5/23/2016 @ 10:16 pmIt’s good for some insect stings, if you don’t have just plain ammonia. It neutralizes the acids in the venom.
nk (dbc370) — 5/23/2016 @ 10:27 pmMore seriously, nk, it’s like people no longer have long term memory about these political types.
Simon Jester (2002f6) — 5/23/2016 @ 10:44 pmSo hard to admit it’s a great ad, isn’t it.
School Marm (f96753) — 5/23/2016 @ 10:59 pmThey never took it in, in the first place. Who paid attention to Juanita Broadrick and Kathleen Wiley? Monica Lewinski was front and center but how many people ever learned that it was the result of a Paula Jones deposition (who? what’s a deposition?).
nk (dbc370) — 5/23/2016 @ 11:01 pmWhat’s up with you folks?
A knock-down, drag-out between two of the sleaziest candidates in memory is just what the nation needs right now. Voters in both parties chose New York values candidates, so let’s see those values in action. I’m putting in a big supply of popcorn.
ThOR (c9324e) — 5/23/2016 @ 11:04 pmYes, School Marm, that ad is what just convinced me that Trump should have the nuclear codes. Wan see the counter in the link in my comment 6? It’s a picture and it’s worth 1,000 words.
nk (dbc370) — 5/23/2016 @ 11:05 pmThat laugh. Like a tree branch poking you in the ear. An unholy cackle.
Rejigger the “Easy” button into a “NoHillary” button. You push it, gives off the cackle.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 5/23/2016 @ 11:08 pmI’m calling it (YouTube – Pg rated).
Nah, I like this one.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 5/23/2016 @ 11:18 pmNo Hillary sticker (jpg)
That’s the one.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 5/23/2016 @ 11:22 pmAnything to pea off these elitist cuckservative wannabe types that adore Erickson, Kristol and mittens. Go Donald go, rip the Clintons to pieces. Love it, love it, love it. Keep those ads coming. Make a few about the cuckservatives crying over not getting their way. Effing babies, who never put up a fight against obama raping the constitution. Burn baby burn.
mg (31009b) — 5/23/2016 @ 11:35 pmthis is fine but
what if he tweets an “ugly bill” pic like how he did on poor heidi?
yeah then it stops being all in good fun
happyfeet (831175) — 5/24/2016 @ 4:35 amTrump is the only candidate who calls or will call the clintons on their corruption. every other candidate and the national media allow this scum to get away with murder, figuratively and literally. Trump has the balls to call them on it. Hopefully this will demonstrate how elections should be run against corruptocrats
Jim (016302) — 5/24/2016 @ 6:17 amBill Clinton riding on the Jeffrey Epstein Von Rapey’s Express and Hillary Clinton doing her best Tammy Wynette standin’ by her rapey man sounds just about right.
Colonel Haiku (6f2264) — 5/24/2016 @ 6:57 am#4… Leviticus… from whelp to cur in seconds flat…
Colonel Haiku (6f2264) — 5/24/2016 @ 7:01 amThis ad makes Trump look terrible, at least to those who know Trump donated to Bill and his foundation.
Bill isn’t running for president. His wife, who has never been accused of rape (like Bill and Trump) is the candidate. Trump going after family is basically his favorite sleazy thing to do aside from reneging on his debts, and America has quite a sorry choice this year, thanks to the GOP primary voters.
Dustin (2a8be7) — 5/24/2016 @ 7:22 amHer vizier Sid vicious is the one who recruited that the blue dress be produced, don’t you remember.
narciso (732bc0) — 5/24/2016 @ 7:30 amFor a guy who married not one but two golddigging chippies, he’s got a lot of chutzpah going after other people’s spouses. You know what the definition of chutzpah is, Dustin? It’s a guy who poops on your doorstep and knocks on your door and asks you for toilet paper.
nk (dbc370) — 5/24/2016 @ 7:34 amCategory error, she has deigned to order the health care industry, the vaccine shortage is a legacy of that, blood dripping from the niger delta to the Euphrates is her doing
narciso (732bc0) — 5/24/2016 @ 7:39 amBill isn’t running for president.
That’s strange. Bill Clinton campaigning in Sacramento yesterday was the lead story on the 6 o’clock, and all afternoon on the talk radio, with 18-20 year old moron gushing over his handshake as the featured interview.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 5/24/2016 @ 7:44 amA classic Trump tactic that shows Bill being Bill. Trump kniws the Clintons because he’s one of them. No wonder they are both in Epstein’s little black book.
DRJ (15874d) — 5/24/2016 @ 7:48 am“Bill Clinton campaigning in Sacramento yesterday was the lead story on the 6 o’clock, and all afternoon on the talk radio, with k18-20 year old moron gushing over his handshake as the featured interview.”
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Not a soap in this world that will wash the stink of that deep corruption off.
Colonel Haiku (6f2264) — 5/24/2016 @ 7:49 amTrump going after family is basically his favorite sleazy thing to do
Desperate need to refresh short term memory for our Hillary fans. It was the Times with the big splashy cover story of the terrible Mr. Trump offering a fashion model a change of cloths so she could go swimming in the pool. Supposedly that was meant to scandalize. Digging deep into the 80’s for something even remotely salacious.
Fortunately for the country Trump doesn’t have to look back that far to find a real Clinton scandal featuring unpunished criminality, with meat on it’s bones, gushing corruption and coverup. Clinton’s victims line up to appear in Trump’s commercials.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:00 amDon’t get me wrong. I am very happy that Juanita Broadrick’s story is finally being told.
nk (dbc370) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:08 amJuanita Broaddrick accused Bill Clinton of raping her, and Paula Jones accused Bill Clinton of attempting for force her to give him a blow job. As a result of Jones’s accusations Bill Clinton paid her $850,000 and he lost his law license.
Trump’s new ad reveals the tip of the iceberg about Bill Clinton’s long and undeniable history sexual predation. Those who defend his crimes (like Hillary Clinton) enable future assaults on women. See the first 9 comments above for a list of enablers.
ropelight (df52b0) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:09 amTrump kniws the Clintons because he’s one of them.
Even your fingers know that was a fib.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:09 amIt’s true I make a lot of typos these days, but explain Trump being in Epstein’s book.
DRJ (15874d) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:20 ampapertiger, it shouldn’t upset you so much when people point this stuff out to you.
DRJ is correct. Of course Trump is one of them. He invited the Clintons to his most intimate family affairs. He introduced his wife and daughter to Bill, both before and after lavishing huge donations on Bill’s foundation.
Trump loves the Clintons. Actions speak louder than words, especially the word of a man who loses lawsuits based on deceptive promises and has failed to meet so many of his agreements in business. Trump’s actions have been to promote the Clintons in every way, including promoting Hillary being president.
You say “Hillary fan”, but I’m no fan of hers. Trump, however, is a proven fan of Hillary. You guys never have answered this question though I’ve asked you many times: How do you reconcile your view that supporting Hillary is horrible with your support of Trump who has supported Hillary in word and deed many times, including after the Benghazi tragedy? I know you can’t answer.
Was does this even mean? I have no idea what you’re talking about. Trump calls these fashion models quote “a hot piece of ass”, as he said when explaining who he left the mother of his kids for. He’s pure sleaze. Like Bill Clinton, he has been accused of a terrible rape. I wasn’t there, and neither were you, but if Trump claims the mere accusation is enough, then he’s damned. Bill Clinton isn’t running for president, but Hillary is, and she’s never been so accused, so by Trump’s own standard, if you use your brain, you should vote for Hillary.
Personally I think this is a weak basis for a vote. I’d rather vote Hillary over Trump because she won’t nuke anyone in a fit, she doesn’t praise crushing of free speech, ranging from American protestors at Trump’s rallies to the Tienamen Square massacre, and because Trump’s going to co-opt the right, replacing it with stupid, whereas Hillary would be opposed by a renewed and relevant right.
Dustin (2a8be7) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:21 amIncluding contact data for Trump at all his business and homes.
DRJ (15874d) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:21 amIf there were ever a family that deserved to be stripped bare for its corruption, fraud, criminality, trail of victims, bald-faced mendacity, and general douchiness, it would be the Clintons.
Trump may not be the ideal messenger, but the information is worthy of dissemination.
Colonel Haiku (6f2264) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:24 amWhat in my comment was a lie, papertiger? You are very quick to libel me and if you think I won’t care, you are mistaken. You realize that I can sue you for defamation, right?
DRJ (15874d) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:25 amropelight says in comment 31 if you don’t support Trump you’re enabling rape.
Yet he’s never answered when I’ve pointed out that Trump has been accused of rape too.
Huh.
Hillary kept her marriage together and she has a daughter. I don’t see how this is any of ropelight’s business. It’s bizarre to say rape accusations against Trump can be ignored, but rape accusations against Trump’s opponent’s family mean you support rape if you don’t support Trump. It’s almost as if going after family is purely irrational or something. Again, huh.
Dustin (2a8be7) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:25 amLook at the filibuster. You forgot to pound the table Dustin.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:27 amof course she does, she actively pushes people to be silenced from here to pakistan, and lets leave out the reason for citizens united, her vizier’s crusade against drudge, their admination of the pla regime,
narciso (732bc0) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:27 amHere’s how a coward makes an accusation:
Like a passive aggressive child. Trump admits he’s got nothing while making sure his little group of kooks still think he proved a point.
But again, it makes Trump look horrible, because he gave the Clintons great money, respect, and support after Foster’s death. How do his fans support a guy who talks out of both sides of his mouth depending on who he needs to butter up this week?
Dustin (2a8be7) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:32 amshe lied to the world about the assasination of an ambassador, while confiding the truth, that’s not a personal pecadillo, it is an act of policy,
narciso (732bc0) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:33 amTrump’s WIFE recanted her accusation. Juanita Brodderick, Willey, and a number of others stand firm on their accusations of rape or sexual assault. And they stand firm on their accusations against Hillary Clinton… specifically Clinton’s personal actions to ruin their livelihoods, reputations, and their lives.
Colonel Haiku (6f2264) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:34 amWere the words too big or just too numerous?
You didn’t respond to my direct question, yet again. You never seem up to an earnest discussion, and I usually ignore you, but you addressed me so I figured I’d give you another shot. I guess that was my mistake.
Dustin (2a8be7) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:34 amso is her emabling of this,
http://narcisoscorner.blogspot.com/?view=sidebar
narciso (732bc0) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:36 amHe will just say your opinions are lies, Dustin. It’s how he thinks. He is, in fact, a little paper tiger.
DRJ (15874d) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:36 amGranted, but at tremendous financial incentive. Trump’s actually used his money to extort his family many times, such as the health care for his infant nephew. He’s a monster that way. You have to take that recantation for what it’s worth (nothing). Particularly in light of Trump’s incredibly sleazy behavior towards women that we do know for a fact.
At least this is relevant to the election. Bill, who wasn’t a horrible president albeit was overrated, is not running for president. He won his two terms already. Hillary is a candidate. I am not that familiar with what Hillary is supposed to have done to these women. If it’s just trusting her husband over the accusers, I do not think that’s much of a crime. If she took actions to smear them and harm them, that’s a different matter, and I invite you, Haiku, to explain what she did. She’s always given off a shrill vibe, and we know she’s a dishonest woman, so I’m open to hearing what she did.
But still, how on earth do you reconcile how horrible Bill Clinton is, according to Trump (he’s trying to say he’s a murderer and rapist) with Trump then supporting Clinton so heavily over the years? Trump’s admitting to being an enabler of rape. Ropelight claims that’s what I am for making the comments I’ve left in this thread, but Trump gave the guy money and support, which actually helped Clinton in the real world. I just don’t see how y’all reconcile that.
Dustin (2a8be7) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:39 am“Trump’s WIFE recanted her accusation.”
– Colonel Haiku
I’m assuming you emphasized “wife” because you’re one of those super-classy guys who will argue that it wasn’t legally possible to rape one’s wife in that jurisdiction at the time.
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After a painful scalp reduction surgery to remove a bald spot, Donald Trump confronted his then-wife, who had previously used the same plastic surgeon.
“Your f*cking doctor has ruined me!” Trump cried.
What followed was a “violent assault,” according to Lost Tycoon. Donald held back Ivana’s arms and began to pull out fistfuls of hair from her scalp, as if to mirror the pain he felt from his own operation. He tore off her clothes and unzipped his pants.
“Then he jams his penis inside her for the first time in more than sixteen months. Ivana is terrified… It is a violent assault,” Hurt writes. “According to versions she repeats to some of her closest confidantes, ‘he raped me.’”
Following the incident, Ivana ran upstairs, hid behind a locked door, and remained there “crying for the rest of night.” When she returned to the master bedroom in the morning, he was there.
“As she looks in horror at the ripped-out hair scattered all over the bed, he glares at her and asks with menacing casualness: ‘Does it hurt?’” Hurt writes.
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“During a deposition given by me in connection with my matrimonial case, I stated that my husband had raped me,” the Ivana Trump statement said. “[O]n one occasion during 1989, Mr. Trump and I had marital relations in which he behaved very differently toward me than he had during our marriage. As a woman, I felt violated, as the love and tenderness, which he normally exhibited towards me, was absent. I referred to this as a ‘rape,’ but I do not want my words to be interpreted in a literal or criminal sense.”
Leviticus (efada1) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:43 amDRJ, calling them little is appropriate.
Dustin (2a8be7) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:43 amyes, he was horrible on policy grounds, he slashed our military and intelligence just as aq was getting underway, he started the pressure on private lenders that led to the subprime crisis, he started with bill lann lee, to muzzle police departments from ny to la, which has accelerated under obama, radical islamists ran rampant, while the fbi has pursuing some scattered cadres of militia, he traded nuclear and ballistic missile technology to the chinese, and other parties in return for campaign contributions,I can tell you chapter and verse why bill clinton was not worthy of the office, appart from his involving state power
narciso (732bc0) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:46 amto subborn his personal peccadillos,
President Trump will be the one to help us. He brings the new energy and the razzmatazz what will help America.
And if not at least he’s not a criminal old pee-stanky woman where you have to spray febreze everywhere she’s sat.
I’m looking forward to the end of the food stamp era and the beginning of something new and exciting.
happyfeet (a037ad) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:47 amyou have to willing ignore all that, in the courae of giving red queen the benefit of the doubt.
narciso (732bc0) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:50 amRemember when Trump smeared Ted Cruz’s wife for not being a hot piece of ass? remember when Trump made the weasel “i’m not saying, but I’m saying” accusations that Ted Cruz’s father was a murderer and a communist? Just lies after lies.
His defense was not an actual reason why it would be OK, but to say “Cruz did it too, so isn’t he horrible?” Only Cruz didn’t even do it. All Trump was doing was admitting what he had done to Cruz’s family was horrible and he had no honest defense.
So when Trump goes after yet another opponent’s family, that is the lens through which I’m seeing it. Of course he’s going to do that. If by some quirk of fate they nominated Colonel Haiku to run against Trump (and I’d surely vote Haiku with quite a lot of relief), Haiku would see his wife, his kids, his other loved ones all smeared by Trump, who would say it’s OK because he’s also making up accusations that Haiku did it first. Trump’s real impact is that he’s taken an already sleazy and screwed up political system and made it that much harder for decent men and women to run for high office. He’s guaranteed far more of this mudslinging via twitter smear.
His fans seem to think I’m talking too much. I’m sure the Trump administration would agree. I guess I’d better get it out of my system before he runs the IRS.
Dustin (2a8be7) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:53 amHe will just say your opinions are lies, Dustin. It’s how he thinks. He is, in fact, a little paper tiger.
DRJ (15874d) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:36 am
“Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour” – I’m your neighbor. Knock it off.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:53 amIvana Trump, the supposed victim, downgraded her allegation to “He didn’t come to bed with his usual sweetness that night.”
Were the words too big or just too numerous?
I’m going to go with tedious.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 5/24/2016 @ 9:04 am“His fans seem to think I’m talking too much. I’m sure the Trump administration would agree. I guess I’d better get it out of my system before he runs the IRS.”
– Dustin
My thoughts exactly, except “IRS” is coupled with “Secret Service.” Has a nice, Trumpy ring to it – “Secret Service.”
Leviticus (efada1) — 5/24/2016 @ 9:07 am“If by some quirk of fate they nominated Colonel Haiku to run against Trump (and I’d surely vote Haiku with quite a lot of relief), ”
Thanks for your support, Dustin… I think… lol
Colonel Haiku (6f2264) — 5/24/2016 @ 9:09 amAnd another thing Dustin. I was reading through your manuscript and Z,Z,Z,Z,Z,Z,Z,Z,Z,Z,Z,Z….
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Sorry. I nodded off. What was the point again? I guess I’ll hit send.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 5/24/2016 @ 9:12 amLeviticus… my emphasis on the word “wife” was not to imply that a spouse could not be sexually abused or subject to rape. Chances are it wasn’t against the law at the time. She recanted her claim is the way I read that situation. Is that not the case?
I’m still waiting to hear any of the platoon of Bill Clinton’s assorted victims recant their stories. I’m sure you have an interest, too. Amirite?
Colonel Haiku (6f2264) — 5/24/2016 @ 9:17 amI’ll simplify it for you, papertiger, understanding the necessity: only one of the two presumptive nominees has been accused of rape, and it’s not Hillary Clinton.
Leviticus (efada1) — 5/24/2016 @ 9:17 am“During a deposition given by me in connection with my matrimonial case, I stated that my husband had raped me. [O]n one occasion during 1989, Mr. Trump and I had marital relations in which he behaved very differently toward me than he had during our marriage. As a woman, I felt violated, as the love and tenderness, which he normally exhibited towards me, was absent. I referred to this as a ‘rape,’ but I do not want my words to be interpreted in a literal or criminal sense.”
– Ivana Trump
If you want to call that “recanting,” I don’t know what to tell you. Saying “I thought of it as a rape at the time, but I don’t want him to go to jail for it” is not recanting.
The marital rape exemption in NY was repealed in 1984, I believe.
Leviticus (efada1) — 5/24/2016 @ 9:21 amAnyway, continue supporting your favored rapist. Because Hillary!1!!!1
Leviticus (efada1) — 5/24/2016 @ 9:22 amHas anyone besides me noticed the way that the not-news media has been putting forth the back and forth between Clinton and Trump? The way our local folks work it is to put forth some statement that Trump makes and then give Clinton an unfettered opportunity to rebut what he says. There is absolutely no fact checking done to find out if what Clinton says is true or not, it is just an opportunity to put down Trump.
Tim Pruett (758c3e) — 5/24/2016 @ 9:24 amwelcome to the party, pal,
http://linkis.com/observer.com/2016/05/Me88V
narciso (732bc0) — 5/24/2016 @ 9:29 am“What makes Trump so appealing to so many voters is that the establishment does seem unusually clueless these days. The great American post-Cold War project of seeking peace and security through the construction of a New World Order based on liberal internationalism and American power doesn’t seem to be working very well, and it’s not hard to conclude that neither the neoconservatives nor the Obama-ites really know what they are doing. When it comes to the economy, it’s been clear since the financial crisis of 2008 that something is badly awry and that the economists, so dogmatic and opinionated and so bitterly divided into quarreling schools, aren’t sure how the system works anymore, and have no real ideas about how to make the world system work to the benefit of ordinary voters in the United States. With the PC crowd and the Obama administration hammering away at transgender bathroom rights as if this was the great moral cause of our time, and with campus Pure Thought advocates collapsing into self parody even as an epidemic of drug abuse and family breakdown relentlessly corrodes the foundations of American social cohesion, it’s hard to believe that the establishment has a solid grip on the moral principles and priorities a society like ours needs.
Trump appeals to all those who think that the American Establishment, the Great and the Good of both parties, has worked its way into a dead end of ideas that don’t work and values that can’t save us. He is the candidate of Control-Alt-Delete. His election would sweep away the smug generational certainties that Clinton embodies, the Boomer Progressive Synthesis that hasn’t solved the problems of the world or of the United States, but which nevertheless persists in regarding itself as the highest and only form of truth. . . .
Myself, I don’t think the system is quite as corrupt as some Trump supporters believe or, perhaps more accurately, I lack their confidence that burning down the old house is the best way to build something new. But it would be equally wrong and perhaps more dangerous to take the view that there is nothing more fueling his rise than ignorance, racism and hate. The failure of the center-Left to transform its institutional and intellectual dominance into policy achievements that actually stabilize middle class life, and the failure of the center-Right to articulate a workable alternative have left a giant intellectual and political vacuum in the heart of American life. The Trump movement is not an answer to our problems, but the social instinct of revolt and rejection that powers it is a sign of social health. The tailors are frauds and the emperor is not in fact wearing any clothes: it is a good sign and not a bad sign that so many Americans are willing to say so out loud.
Those of us who care about policy, propriety and the other bourgeois values without which no democratic society can long thrive need to spend less time wringing our hands about the shortcomings of candidate Trump and the movement that has brought him this far, and more time both analyzing the establishment failures that have brought the country to this pass, and developing a new vision for the American future.”
– Walter Russell Mead
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/234472/
Colonel Haiku (6f2264) — 5/24/2016 @ 9:29 am” The way our local folks work it is to put forth some statement that Trump makes and then give Clinton an unfettered opportunity to rebut what he says.” – Tim Pruett
Mrs. Clinton is the loser every time the topic comes up, even if (perhaps, especially if) she is given an unfettered opportunity to rebut. We all hated the cesspool aspect of the Clinton presidency, even most Democrats. For as long as Trump is able to shape the news, he wins, and it doesn’t even cost him a dime.
ThOR (c9324e) — 5/24/2016 @ 9:33 amI don’t think it’s so much ‘burning down the house’@david byrne, but reconsidering the value of these alliances and agreements, as palmerston might have said,
https://twitter.com/lachlan/status/734843231033294848
narciso (732bc0) — 5/24/2016 @ 9:34 amI believe Trump mentioned that one pays the Clinton’s to come to one’s wedding the same way one pays the DJ or the caterer.
Pay for play, status, have to be in the in crowd to do the deal.
Ingot (8e89d2) — 5/24/2016 @ 9:35 amYour turn. Here’s Kathleen Willey on YouTube.
Good luck.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 5/24/2016 @ 9:43 am– Clinton camp.
This is not a denial.
Sammy Finkelman (0730f4) — 5/24/2016 @ 9:52 amTwo things here. First, they were “accused” of rape. Neither was convicted so for any of you lawyers to act otherwise is not cool. Second, Hillary was an unindicted co-conspirator or accomplice (or whatever the appropriate legal term) to whatever, if ever Bill did. Now moving on from rape, let’s talk dead bodies in Benghazi.
Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193) — 5/24/2016 @ 10:05 am“Now moving on from rape?”
How bout “no.” I think raping one’s spouse should disqualify one from the presidency. Call me old fashioned like that.
Leviticus (efada1) — 5/24/2016 @ 10:15 amBut it’s the Trumpkins’ brave new world we’re living in, right?
Leviticus (efada1) — 5/24/2016 @ 10:16 amThis is not a criticism of Ivana, I think she enjoyed herself addressing this topic. It was a soul cleansing moment for her. An absolution with beauty reaffirmed. Refreshing.
Limelight – Rush (YouTube)
papertiger (c2d6da) — 5/24/2016 @ 10:22 amIs it really worth the effort to follow every swing by the wino at the bag lady or vice versa? Watching bums fight in a cesspit for five months should drive voter participation to record lows.
The only interesting aspect of the feces flinging contest will be the “promises” made to increase and/or protect subsidies.
Rick Ballard (97c612) — 5/24/2016 @ 10:37 amVote for Trump. You get three first ladies.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 5/24/2016 @ 10:39 amMuslims should like that one.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 5/24/2016 @ 10:48 amWasn’t Trump one of Bill Clinton’s defenders back in the 1990’s saying some not so nice things about many of the accusers in his own unique way?
Ghost Rider (a9c557) — 5/24/2016 @ 10:51 amit’s mma, whereas the last two tomato cans, have regarded it as badminton,
narciso (732bc0) — 5/24/2016 @ 10:51 amMr. Trump is a good choice in this situation. I feel very comfortable with this choice.
happyfeet (a037ad) — 5/24/2016 @ 10:52 amand starr was one of his oh so polite investigators, times have changed,
narciso (732bc0) — 5/24/2016 @ 10:52 amDustin, Hillary has made Bill a plank in her platform. He’s going to revive the economy, or something along those lines. Pointing out that he has some issues is certainly fair game given his prominence in her campaign.
And to the Trumpeteers, if you can’t distinguish the differences between attacking an opponent with lies and insults about the opponent’s family versus attacking an opponent with verifiable facts, facts supported by witnesses, about a husband who is playing a major role in both the campaign and in the policy platform of that opponent, then you have descended to a point that will be very difficult to recover from.
BobStewartatHome (404986) — 5/24/2016 @ 11:16 amNarciso, indeed the times have changed a bit
kishnevi (15d500) — 5/24/2016 @ 12:38 pmhttp://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/baylor-university-football-team-sexual-assault-scandal-ken-starr-president-fired-052416
Too many people are stuck on themselves.
mg (31009b) — 5/24/2016 @ 12:56 pmLet the wildcatters roll.
Ken Starr still has trouble making a sexual assault case.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 5/24/2016 @ 1:24 pmHa, ha, ha, ha… HA!
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/234546-2/
Colonel Haiku (6f2264) — 5/24/2016 @ 1:48 pmThank you for acknowledging your error, paper tiger.
DRJ (15874d) — 5/24/2016 @ 2:57 pmThere’s the rub. Hillary would be a terrible president. She’s obviously not as corrupt as Trump, nor as dangerous to our nation, but she’s quite bad. We have two terrible choices.
But Trump is special in what his election would represent in American history, and what he is morally capable of.
Dustin (2a8be7) — 5/24/2016 @ 3:43 pm#38, Dustin, that is absolutely not what I said. In reference to Bill Clinton this is my actual statement:
And, this is how you characterized my comment:
There’s a major difference between what I actually said and the twisted words you put in my mouth. You owe me an apology.
ropelight (df52b0) — 5/24/2016 @ 3:49 pmrussian oligarchs, lebanese and saudi magnates involved in nigeria, ethiopia, indian spam brokers, it’s like the board of spectre, that red queen helms,
narciso (732bc0) — 5/24/2016 @ 3:55 pmHoagie, you are telling us that Trump is entitled to the benefit of the doubt. But I didn’t say Trump was guilty and didn’t call for any prison cells for him.
All I did was note Trump’s standard for others, and apply this standard to himself. He says unproven accusations are enough to make a decision. He is subject to the same accusations, and the conduct we actually do know about is quite bad. Therefore by Trump’s own standard Hillary is the better candidate, as she has never faced an accusation of rape. Those saying Hillary is as bad as a rapist because her husband, the popular president, is campaigning for her, are being sheer partisans. Do they feel this way about everyone Dennis Hastert has campaigned for?
Of course it is fair game. In fact, Bill’s successes were not his own, and were due to stubborn conservatives in Congress who don’t get much credit (just as they didn’t this year). But Trump’s not operating on that level of discourse. He’s pointing out accusations of murder and rape, of a man Trump continued to support, and in his weasel way suggesting these accusations are valid. He does this because with the skeletons in his closet he is already desperate to sling as much mud everywhere as he can.
And Hillary isn’t even running against Trump yet.
Dustin (2a8be7) — 5/24/2016 @ 3:58 pmWow. Be a man and stand up for what you said.
You owe a lot of people apologies, and I owe you nothing. Those commenters, Leviticus, Simon Jester, Dana, and NK, expressed opinions you don’t like, but in fact are all (obviously) opposed to rape. Leviticus even brought to light Trump’s sordid rape accusation in a highly critical manner. For doing this, you accused them of ‘enabling rape’. You provided no sensible reason for saying this. Like Trump, you simply threw something really horrible at their reputations and then scoffed when I held you accountable for what you did. And now you’re the victim, huh.
Well, I’m not giving you this apology you want. I think your comments speak for themselves about your character, and I’m sorry to see what you’ve turned into simply for some scumbag politician.
Dustin (2a8be7) — 5/24/2016 @ 4:04 pmR.I.P. Burt Kwouk, who played Cato in the Peter Sellers Pink Panther films
Icy (41a0bd) — 5/24/2016 @ 4:07 pmropelight, you wrote in your Comment 31:
Those who defend his crimes (like Hillary Clinton) enable future assaults on women. See the first 9 comments above for a list of enablers.
ropelight (df52b0) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:09 am
My comment was number 6. I wrote:
So let me get this straight. Trump invited a rapist who he knew was a rapist to his wedding? http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2016/news/160314/donald-hillary-800.jpg And gave money to that rapist’s wife? And Trump’s sister accepted an appointment to the Third Circuit Court of Appeals from that very same rapist?
Sigh. I’ll never understand New York values.
nk (dbc370) — 5/23/2016 @ 9:54 pm
So you are a lying lowlife crapweasel just like the badgerheaded pimp you are trying to put into the White House.
With apologies to all lying lowlife crapweasels who are not ropelight.
nk (dbc370) — 5/24/2016 @ 4:09 pmin his social circle, it probably wasn’t mentioned much, how often was juanita brodderick interviewed once by lisa myers,
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/post-primary-rally-boosts-trump-albeit-challenges-aplenty/story?id=39265102
narciso (732bc0) — 5/24/2016 @ 4:12 pmDustin, focus on the issue I raised and quit trying to muddy the waters. First, you twisted my words and now you’re trying to weasel out of apologizing. Either you face up to it, or you try to obfuscate, misdirect, and weasel out. The choice is yours.
ropelight (df52b0) — 5/24/2016 @ 4:13 pmthis is the most recent addition to the list,
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/212576#.V0ThMLgrK00
before you answer I’m aware of the talals and the mamantov’s saudi and azeri princelings, respectively,
narciso (732bc0) — 5/24/2016 @ 4:20 pm“A woman is only a woman but a good cigar’s a smoke.” — W.C. Fields.
DCSCA (a343d5) — 5/24/2016 @ 4:24 pmI found much of the national enquirer junk, personally insulting ropelight, you earned your self no allies on that score,
narciso (732bc0) — 5/24/2016 @ 4:26 pmnarciso, are you referring to the National Enquirer article identifying the young Cuban man beside Lee Oswald helping handing out ‘Fair Play for Cuba’ leaflets in front of Clay Shaw’s Trade Mart in NOLA?
ropelight (df52b0) — 5/24/2016 @ 4:31 pmDustin, I appreciate your comments, but c’mon. Ropelight has issues. He has let his mouth paint him into a corner, defending all of Trump’s bizarreness, and it makes him touchy.
Historically, him slinging nonsense around is nothing new. It’s just who he is. No big deal.
I think (like a couple of trolls around here), he just likes to fight.
Simon Jester (f0f6ef) — 5/24/2016 @ 4:33 pmyes, that and the spurious affair garbage, it was too familiar to the trash I’d seen nearly a half dozen years earlier, and regurgitated by the late joe mcguinness,
narciso (732bc0) — 5/24/2016 @ 4:34 pmRopelight loves peddling smears, and smearing people. He just doesn’t like to get called on it.
JD (7fd277) — 5/24/2016 @ 4:52 pmMr. Ropelight is a good American stalwart and true
i would not see him depreciated so cruelly
happyfeet (831175) — 5/24/2016 @ 4:56 pmno no no
you and Mr. Sir Ropelight are peas in a bully podpeople
plus you both smell of butt snuffling and orange hair dye
you both make America grate again
trumpyfeet (f0f6ef) — 5/24/2016 @ 5:16 pmi like the prospect of Mr. Trump being president instead of that vile woman with the urine-stained pantsuits
it gladdens my heart
happyfeet (831175) — 5/24/2016 @ 5:21 pmoh no oh no oh no
i like the prospect of neither criminal liars or criminal liars
both old and incontinent
both with hands in other peoples money
both with a perverted need to silence dissent
snotty silliness from trumpsnufflers led to this
pray for the children
trumpyfeet (f0f6ef) — 5/24/2016 @ 5:25 pmi’m just glad there’s still hope
thank you Mr. Trump
happyfeet (831175) — 5/24/2016 @ 5:27 pmhey Mr. Sir Donald
yes happy?
did I do good attacking all other candidates and making sure you were left?
thank you happy that was a good job
but i have a question Mr. Sir Donald
happy i don’t have a lot of time there are eurotrash hookers to chat up and goldy sacks money to sniff
Mr. Sir Donald please tell me you are different from the people i worked so hard to make fun of
happy you need to go now
your bicycle is over there
go
trumpyfeet (f0f6ef) — 5/24/2016 @ 5:34 pmi’m just glad there’s still hope
thank you Mr. Trump
happyfeet (831175) — 5/24/2016 @ 5:27 pm
J. Jackson and the Rainbow Warriors (971e5f) — 5/24/2016 @ 5:38 pmwhen you ride with red queen, and you take der commissar as a boarder,
http://www.weeklystandard.com/dnc-appoints-long-time-israel-critic-to-draft-platform/article/2002526#.V0TLl8q279U.facebook
narciso (732bc0) — 5/24/2016 @ 5:56 pmI think it’s more of a personal problem for Ken Starr, than an error.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 5/24/2016 @ 6:27 pmDo lawyers run into that sometimes, where a prosecutor has a category error when dealing with a certain type of crime?
And if it’s a known propensity, would certain assignments be handed out to that prosecutor when high level defendants are looking to stack the deck for acquittal?
papertiger (c2d6da) — 5/24/2016 @ 6:30 pmI didn’t even know he was at baylor, I thought he was still at peperdine, but the way he answered red queen pom pom girl chozick, was instructive, and not in a good way,
narciso (732bc0) — 5/24/2016 @ 6:31 pmClick the clickbait. Ken Starr was not fired. The actual story is Baylor responds to reports that Starr was fired.
The
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narciso (732bc0) — 5/24/2016 @ 6:48 pmnot corrupt eh,
http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/24/exclusive-clinton-foundation-got-100m-from-blood-minerals-firm/
narciso (732bc0) — 5/24/2016 @ 6:53 pmit’s just the tip of the iceberg,
http://www.haitian-truth.org/clinton-disaster-fundraising-in-haiti-predatory-humanitarianism/
narciso (732bc0) — 5/24/2016 @ 6:55 pmAs much as I detest the Clintons’, its pretty clear that Trump is lowering the level of discourse of our already vulgar political process.
If I hadn’t already decided to be #NeverTrump from Trump’s own despicable attacks on his primary opponents, the fact that Trump brings out the most vulgar and despicable conduct from his supporters, e.g., “Those who defend his crimes (like Hillary Clinton) enable future assaults on women. See the first 9 comments above for a list of enablers.” would by itself move me off the fence.
SPQR (a3a747) — 5/24/2016 @ 6:58 pmyes, I agree, however she has demonstrably shown corruption and malpractice in policy,
http://www.investors.com/politics/columnists/dennis-prager-a-response-to-my-conservative-nevertrump-friends/
narciso (732bc0) — 5/24/2016 @ 7:16 pmIs Trump lowering the level of discourse of our already vulgar political process?
Happy already washed his feet in the punchbowl. Don’t drink the water in Flint. Or Chicago.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 5/24/2016 @ 7:19 pmOK, SPQR, not all of the first 9 comments were from enablers. I retract that statement, it’s inaccurate, and I apologize to those I offended. Now you can climb back on your imaginary fence.
However, I stand by my assertion that ‘Those who defend Bill Clinton’s crimes (like Hillary Clinton) enable future assaults on women.’
ropelight (df52b0) — 5/24/2016 @ 7:20 pmSorry. That came out ambiguous.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 5/24/2016 @ 7:22 pmClearly our discourse is our discourse, whether Trump participates or not.
There are no longer any superlatives sufficient to describe the Clintons’ corruption. They have set records for the US for corruption, even inflation corrected.
However, pointing out that Hillary Clinton would be the most corrupt person ever to hold the office of President is insufficient to move me to vote for the vulgar bully Trump.
SPQR (a3a747) — 5/24/2016 @ 7:23 pmhave I mentioned I’m ticked off at all sides of this quinella, the dead enders at the resurgent and the federalists to name two, and the huntress’ fan club and some elements at breitbart, the enemy is hydra I mean hillary
narciso (732bc0) — 5/24/2016 @ 7:25 pmthe haiti example, is particularly likely to strike someone mute, a country, ravaged once by the equivalent of a tsunami was looted clean away by ‘firemen’ to cite bradbury,
narciso (732bc0) — 5/24/2016 @ 7:27 pmThe vulgar bully is under attack, from all sides, direct and enfilade fire.
It’s alright though. Donald Trump is a battlestar.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 5/24/2016 @ 7:45 pmNarciso,
Why be ticked off? This election, like the last two, will be decided by slack jawed yokels balancing entertainment value versus potential subsidy increase. The gibbering of the orangeutan is reasonably entertaining to the yokels and forceful opposition to him on the basis of principle is actually a plus to those who are incapable of identifying, let alone holding one. Hoi polloi are reasonably cheerful about the fraud at the moment, all he needs to do is to continue to fling feces every day for the next five months while being careful not to threaten any subsidies and he will have at least a chance.
Rick Ballard (97c612) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:01 pmI thought Ken Starr was hired as a special prosecutor strictly for Whitewater, that he has a private practice? I know that doesn’t answer your question, but would your question even apply to Starr?
Bill H (971e5f) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:58 pmWe might have better informed voters if we had a national media that fulfilled its responsibility to report accurately instead of a sorry pack of preening leftists parroting Democrat talking points combined with a nationwide cabal of unionized teachers stuffing the heads of the nation’s youth with collectivist propaganda and an academy of higher education that has abandoned the search for reason in favor of political correctness.
Given the state of ignorant and misinformed voters I’d say we’re lucky to have an opportunity to put a real American in the White House, instead of a sleazy corrupt two-faced lying traitor.
ropelight (df52b0) — 5/24/2016 @ 8:58 pmYeah, and the Civil war was fought over state’s rights.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 5/24/2016 @ 9:26 pmOrangeutan! Perfect, nails the tone of the whole syndrome (scammer and scammees) in one word. With the choice of Hillary vs. the Hillary funder digging each other deeper into the manure pit, there’s nothing to care about how it turns out, either way. (Well, the poorly educated may think it’s a real contest, in the pro wrestling sense, but who loves them?).
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