Trump 2005: I “Won’t Do Anything” to Take Care of My Kids
This would play well in a general election:
“Do you actually change diapers?” host Anthony Cumia asked Donald Trump on the Opie and Anthony show in November of 2005.
The then 59-year-old businessman, whose wife Melania was pregnant with his fifth child and her first, responded bluntly: “No, I don’t do that.”
“There’s a lot of women out there that demand that the husband act like the wife and you know there’s a lot of husbands that listen to that,” Trump added. “So you know, they go for it.”
It goes deeper than that. He did nothing to take care of the kids, except provide the money:
“I mean, I won’t do anything to take care of them. I’ll supply funds and she’ll take care of the kids. It’s not like I’m gonna be walking the kids down Central Park,” Trump said in the interview. He repeated the same sentiment to Stern two years laters, saying, “Melania is a wonderful mother. She takes care of the baby and I pay all of the costs.”
Trump’s five children — Ivanka, Eric, Donald, Tiffany, and Barron — have been a highly visible part of his presidential bid and have all publicly praised their father as a parent.
You gotta say nice things if you want to stay in the will.
But Trump himself has described himself as hands off, and, in the same 2005 interview with Howard Stern, expressed disdain for his ex-wife Marla Maples for suggesting he walk their daughter, Tiffany, down the street.
“Well, Marla used to say, ‘I can’t believe you’re not walking Tiffany down the street,’ you know in a carriage,” Trump said. “Right, I’m gonna be walking down Fifth Avenue with a baby in a carriage. It just didn’t work.”
I don’t envy this man.
More at the link, including a bit about his suggestion to Maples that one of his now daughters be aborted (“Well, what are we going to do about this?”).
BuzzFeed. Best oppo research of the campaign.
Manafort will try to re-make him or adjust the “Trump Brand,” but that’s a doomed effort: Trump never will stop being Trump, and that’s the opposite of being presidential:
You got that, Trumpkins? Your boy was too chicken to show up in person in Florida to court these high-powered delegates, so he sent Manafort to lie on his behalf. If it weren’t a lie, why would Trump be threatening people who exposed it with jail?
Seriously, why is it that Trump wants his shills like Manafort to preach one gospel to the establishment, while he wants his public shills (like the ones who comment here) to be kept in the dark about that?
It’s because he’s a liar, and he’s lying to you. Suckers.
Beldar (fa637a) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:17 pmand then in the same breath you’ll say Mr. Trump isn’t a true conservative
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:41 pmNobody loves veterans as much as Trump does—nobody!
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:48 pmAnd nobody loves his kids as much as Trump does—nobody! Seriously, The Mr Donald was too busy defrauding people with Trump University to have the time to walk with his family through Central Park.
It’s Donald’s world. We just squat in it.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 4/24/2016 @ 2:07 pmwe’ll fashion a club of the most rigid pc for to beat Mr. Trump bloody!
bonk bonk bonk we will deliver such blows as have never been seen
and bonk bonk bonk for good measure
there’s no way he could withstand an onslaught as vigorous as potent as this!
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 2:09 pmMaybe this all will have a cumulative effect on Trump, but I doubt it.
steveg (fed1c9) — 4/24/2016 @ 2:23 pmThe media must want Trump to win, because when he says “that’s old news” or some other version of “I don’t care”, the media drops it.
i remember when candidate’s kids were off limits…
can we now talk about Obola’s brats and all the tax money that’s been wasted on them?
redc1c4 (f581e5) — 4/24/2016 @ 4:53 pmyes it’s fair game
pls to proceed
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 4:57 pmI would wager a jumbo lobster roll “His Assness’ has never opened a door for a woman.
mg (31009b) — 4/24/2016 @ 5:06 pm“
mg (31009b) — 4/24/2016 @ 5:07 pmman pays for prostitute with charity money & a small monkey.
sorry H8rs, but it wasn’t Trump
redc1c4 (f581e5) — 4/24/2016 @ 5:12 pmHey give him a break. He hired the best people to do all that!
David Pittelli (b77425) — 4/24/2016 @ 5:13 pmThat’s a long way to go just to call anyone who insists on pointing out actual facts about Trump “haters”. Or is there some National Enquirer type Cruz connection in there?
Gerald A (7c7ffb) — 4/24/2016 @ 5:18 pmif u really understood the position our scuzzy cowardly slutcountry is in i think you’d know that Mr. The Donald is the least of your worries
it’s so big, the dildo failmerica is riding into the sunset
too big for Mr. Cruz to just confiscate
it’s a real conundrum
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 5:24 pm@ redc1c4 (#7), who wrote:
You cannot point to a single word or phrase in Patterico’s post above — or, for that matter, at the Buzzfeed link — which makes the slightest attack or negative portrayal of any of Trump’s children.
So you’re doing exactly what Obama does — you’re creating an alternate universe filled with strawmen for you to attack, while you ignore the actual point of the post.
This isn’t attacking Trump’s kids. It’s so intellectually sloppy to claim otherwise that one has to doubt the good faith of the person so claiming.
Rather, this post attacks Trump and Trump alone, directly and without ambiguity, as being insincere and inconsistent about himself. Almost everything in the post and in the Buzzfeed link consists of things Donald Trump said. Only in Trumpkin/Obama logic does publicizing something that Donald Trump said constitute an attack on Donald Trump’s children.
Whether Trump’s a good or bad father isn’t on my list of the top 100 most important reasons to vote against him. I’m not “on the fence,” trying to decide whether, for example, Trump is deeply misogynistic or whether instead he merely plays a misogynist on TV and in politics.
But some voters are on that fence — at least for purposes of deciding, for example, between being #NeverTrump stay-at-home, on the one hand, and being a hold-your-nose and vote-against-Hillary voter in November. Other voters are on another version of the fence, deciding whether to be a stay-at-home-’cause-it-ain’t-Bernie voter or a turn-out-against-Trump voter in November.
And stuff like this — remember, we’re only seeing the dribbles, all the good stuff is being saved for the fall — is going to keep pushing people off those fences in ways that ensure Hillary Clinton’s election.
Beldar (fa637a) — 4/24/2016 @ 5:44 pmgotta love that trump
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 5:46 pmgimme dat trump gimme dat trump
gimme dat
sweet
funky
trump
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 5:46 pmHappyfeet wrote: “[A]nd then in the same breath you’ll say Mr. Trump isn’t a true conservative.”
Same breath. Subsequent breath. Every F’ing breath.
SPQR (a3a747) — 4/24/2016 @ 6:07 pmwell that says more about you than it says about Mr. Trump
have you ever thought about how with every breath all he wants to do is make America great again?
it’s true i went to his website
and you know what i applaud that
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 6:09 pmWhere are ropelight and papier mache tiger? Why aren’t they defending their god on his great family values?
John Hitchcock (1275ea) — 4/24/2016 @ 6:15 pmhappyfeet, yeah, he is going to restore the glory of Rome and make the trains run on time.
SPQR (a3a747) — 4/24/2016 @ 6:41 pmOMG! Whatta nasty man that Trump!
G6loq (3a2647) — 4/24/2016 @ 6:50 pm[clutching my pearls]
You’re half right. He ain’t much of a man. More of a feral dog.
John Hitchcock (1275ea) — 4/24/2016 @ 6:55 pmI like my roles traditional. I’m sure you all like yours with glitter and pink frost.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 4/24/2016 @ 7:04 pmAnd the knock is he’s too libertarian?
papertiger (c2d6da) — 4/24/2016 @ 7:09 pmGot that Ron Paul thing going on when the camera sneaks up.
http://dont-tread-on.me/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/wheresthebeef.jpg
papertiger (c2d6da) — 4/24/2016 @ 7:15 pmTrump staying away from his kids is a good thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diMp241gAcw
nk (dbc370) — 4/24/2016 @ 7:18 pmThere’s papier mache tiger. And, of course, he lied.
John Hitchcock (1275ea) — 4/24/2016 @ 7:19 pmTrump’s an admitted germaphobe who doesn’t even like shaking peoples’ hands. No way was this guy going to deal with coming in contact with baby poo or kids’ runny noses
John (a4c2a4) — 4/24/2016 @ 7:25 pmAnyone who thinks it’s unmanly to walk your baby around in a baby carriage has never been a father. Someone like that may have spawned a human being, but — like Donald Trump — they have never really been a father in the meaningful sense of the word.
And I feel sorry for people like that.
Patterico (3d4257) — 4/24/2016 @ 7:26 pmPicture this
I’m a bag of dicks
Put me to your lips
I am sick
I will punch a baby bear in his sh*t
Give me lip
I’ma send you to the yard, get a stick, make a switch
I can end a conversation real quick
I am crack
I ain’t lying kick a lion in his crack
I’m the sh*t I will fall off in your crib, take a sh*t
Pinch your momma on the booty, kick your dog, eff your b*tch
Fat boy dressed like Santa and took pictures with your kids
– DJ Trump
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 4/24/2016 @ 7:43 pmOur host wrote above (#30):
If that Trumpkin thinks that the Trump paradigm, as expressed in Trump’s own (pre-campaign) words, is one worth emulating, then he couldn’t possibly understand how eager I am — having rearing four of my own, with active roles in rearing various nephews/nieces/others, and with a personal diaper-odometer count already in the tens of thousands — one of my main goals in life is to stay alive at least long enough to change a significant portion my next generation’s diapers.
Beldar (fa637a) — 4/24/2016 @ 8:52 pmI’m not even going to try to correct the editing errors I missed before hitting “Submit Comment” on that last.
Beldar (fa637a) — 4/24/2016 @ 8:52 pmGold’s Gym baby sitting service.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 4/24/2016 @ 9:02 pmTrump is lucky to have wives who cared enough about their childrrn to raise them. His wives deserve credit for raising nice children.
DRJ (15874d) — 4/24/2016 @ 9:06 pmAnd the more I read from the Trumpkin shills, the sorrier I feel for everyone who can’t merely “scroll down” to ignore them.
Beldar (fa637a) — 4/24/2016 @ 9:06 pmBeldar,
Hooe the flood didn’t cause you too much trouble, and I love this photo from Houston during the flood. Real men take care of children and armadillos.
DRJ (15874d) — 4/24/2016 @ 9:18 pmI guess “suffer the children” isn’t one of his favorite bivle verses.
jb (52047a) — 4/24/2016 @ 10:57 pmI’m never going to vote for Trump, but his kids have all turned out to be pretty accomplished, if he had anything to do with it or not.
Not many families can say that.
BradnSA (2312b5) — 4/25/2016 @ 2:27 amThose of us who have never been fooled by Trump have all surely detected that deep insecurity oozing from Trump. Every grandiose praise of himself, every ‘piece of ass’ he brags about, every helicopter with his name writ-gold on it… this is a man who finds himself deeply wanting for worth.
Trump has more money, but he is not richer in the ways that matter, and he knows this inside.
A good example is how he doesn’t actually care about politics enough to even have real positions on matters, or interest in talking about any specific political ideas, but he’s running for president.
Dustin (2a8be7) — 4/25/2016 @ 5:47 amTrump could shoot a veteran and a kid in the middle of Fifth Ave, and his Fan Boys would still say, “Youse guyz gots to sit down, shut up, and get behind Trump!”
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/25/2016 @ 6:24 amTed Cruz wasn’t even willing to live in the *same house* with his goldy sacky and her spawn
for YEARS
happyfeet (831175) — 4/25/2016 @ 6:28 amThis is always so funny. “goldy sacky” is just so…clever!
It’s like this oddball had to go to Trump University twice, because he failed his urine test.
Simon Jester (c8876d) — 4/25/2016 @ 6:38 amhappyfeet illustrates just how Trump brings out the worst in his followers. They daily smear Cruz with allegations that have no evidence but ignore that their content of their smears actually appears in Trumps’ own words, as applying to Trump himself.
So they spew, and spew and spew, all to try to bring Cruz down to Trumps’ level.
SPQR (a3a747) — 4/25/2016 @ 6:38 amSad.
happyfeet (831175) — 4/25/2016 @ 6:39 amYou know, SPQR, I’m starting to think that this guy’s belt doesn’t go through all the loops.
Simon Jester (c8876d) — 4/25/2016 @ 6:40 amReading these last couple of comments of happyfeet’s, I am reminded of what the Irish poacher said as he stood on the gallows. It seems the poor fellow as approached by a well-meaning if somewhat overzealous priest who, in horrific detail, described the unfading torments of Hades which awaited him if he did not repent his misdeeds. The condemned man listened patiently to all that the priest had to say, and when he was done, grinned broadly and replied, ‘Eat it raw, fuzz-nuts.'”
Credit: Simon Jester
nk (dbc370) — 4/25/2016 @ 6:43 amnk, I know all the other Churchill stories. I’m looking for the original of that one.
The GB Shaw one is my favorite.
In real life, Shaw sent Churchill two tickets to “Pygmalion,” with the note “Bring a friend, if you have one.”
Churchill actually sent back the tickets with the following: “I’ll come to a second performance, if there is one.”
Rhetoric was wonderful in those Good Old Days.
Simon Jester (c8876d) — 4/25/2016 @ 6:47 amglass houses are fragile cause of the construction materials what they use
happyfeet (831175) — 4/25/2016 @ 6:51 amSimon, yep, elevator does not reach all floors.
SPQR (a3a747) — 4/25/2016 @ 6:51 am“You cannot point to a single word or phrase in Patterico’s post above — or, for that matter, at the Buzzfeed link — which makes the slightest attack or negative portrayal of any of Trump’s children.”
– Beldar
I think “You gotta say nice things if you want to stay in the will” probably counts as a bit of a negative portrayal. Not that I think there’s anything wrong with a bit of a negative portrayal of Trump’s adult children.
I am tempted to make fun of Baron Trump’s name as well, but I know it’s not his fault so I will refrain. Donald Trump is just a pompous idiot.
Leviticus (efada1) — 4/25/2016 @ 6:53 amoh my goodness he’s so much more than that
happyfeet (831175) — 4/25/2016 @ 6:56 amLeviticus has a good point. It’s easy to make fun of family members of candidates. It’s better to stick with the candidates themselves, where possible. DJT is quite a target rich environment for criticism, in any event.
Good reminder.
Simon Jester (c8876d) — 4/25/2016 @ 6:56 amSPQR: In the pinball game of life, his flippers were a little farther apart than most.
Simon Jester (c8876d) — 4/25/2016 @ 6:57 amThe closest I found, for the “wring England’s neck” one, was Churchill’s speech to the Canadian Parliament. Apparently, it was the French surrender-monkey generals who told the Vichy government that in three weeks the Germans would have wrung England’s neck like a chicken. Churchill said, “Some chicken!” “Some neck!” Got a standing ovation.
Here’s the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6JxSHmVB5g
nk (dbc370) — 4/25/2016 @ 7:01 amI found that too, nk. It may be as close as I can get. My brother is a pretty dedicated Churchill scholar, and he is looking. I’ll keep you posted.
Simon Jester (c8876d) — 4/25/2016 @ 7:04 amThe best stories are usually not true. — Robert Heinlein, Tunnel In The Sky
nk (dbc370) — 4/25/2016 @ 7:07 amTrump’s adult children have volunteered to enter the public fray by going on radio and television shows and in some cases explicitly taken shots at Ted Cruz. They’re spokesmen for their father, thus they’re now fair targets. Donald Trump Jr said on tv the other day that the only way Cruz can win is if he bribes the delegates.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/25/2016 @ 7:08 amAh, nk. You know how I feel about RAH’s YA novels.
Have you seen this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc1_A-hDsAs
There is a great story in it about Churchill by Orson Wells.
Simon Jester (c8876d) — 4/25/2016 @ 7:14 amLeviticus,
I think Patterico’s statement about Trump’s children and his Will was a reference to Trump’s history in disinheriting his brother’s children, where it was reported Trump not only helped write the Will but also cut off their medical benefits in retaliation for the lawsuit they filed contesting their disinheritance. To me, Patterico is saying Trump has smart kids who learned from their father’s past behavior what he is capable of.
DRJ (15874d) — 4/25/2016 @ 7:20 amI agree we should push back against the more outrageous things happyfeet says. We’ve seen him confuse and shock commenters who aren’t regulars, even if we’ve become impervious to his ramblings. But his insecurity is palpable and he clearly needs friends.
I will try to be more kind to you, happyfeet, and I hope you can be more tolerant.
DRJ (15874d) — 4/25/2016 @ 7:27 amSo Trump is looking to buy a present for Melania and not wanting the usual furs and jewelry decides to buy her a parrot.
The pet shop owner says, “I can make you a tremendous deal on this one I got schlonged with. His former home was a brothel and he has a huge potty mouth, so he turns off all potential buyers. Here, see for yourself.”
He uncovers the parrot’s cage, and the parrot, seeing Trump sqawks, “Awk, new pimp”. Trump laughs and says, “I’ll take it”.
He takes it home, and up seeing Algo Al Mar, the parrot sqawks, “Awk, new pimp, new house”. The maid opens the door for them and the parrot sqawks, “New pimp, new house, new madam”.
Trump is grinning from ear to ear. He calls to Melania to come and see what he bought her. She walks in and the parrot sqawks, “Hi, Melania!”
Is that okay, Leviticus?
nk (dbc370) — 4/25/2016 @ 7:35 amHey, DRJ, that is up to Mr. Feet. What is rewarded, becomes more frequent. So is the reverse.
Just like DJT, all Mr. Feet needs to do be as serious, thoughtful, and passionate as he (and DJT) says he is.
Think how much DJT could do if he acted that way. The same is true for the unusual Mr. Feet.
Simon Jester (c8876d) — 4/25/2016 @ 7:37 am#62 nk, you really have to do that Raymond Chandler-esque novel you alluded to a couple months ago. That’s gritty stuff.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/25/2016 @ 7:41 amgoing to keep pushing people off those fences in ways that ensure Hillary Clinton’s election.
And she knows that and will exploit it for all its worth. She tweeted today that she doesn’t want the support of people like one of the Koch brothers — who implied recently that Hillary will be a reasonable (or at least non-scary) alternative to the Republicans — since such supposed conservatives are in denial about manmade global warming. People like that who, in turn, avoid saying Ted Cruz is a great alternative to Trump, or will be a great candidate, period, irk me to no end.
This will not end well.
Mark (2fd21b) — 4/25/2016 @ 8:13 am“Is that okay, Leviticus?”
– nk
I’ll allow it.
Leviticus (efada1) — 4/25/2016 @ 8:20 amWe all come here for different reasons, Simon. I think the overwhelming reason is that Patterico and Dana write interesting posts, but there are other reasons. It’s clear that happyfeet has a personal need and agenda, but how I respond to his agenda is up to me. IMO his agenda comes from childish insecurity, and I think I make that point best if I respond like a kind parent.
DRJ (15874d) — 4/25/2016 @ 8:39 amI have always disliked waste. I hate it when I see potential wasted. It’s my biggest challenge in the classroom, to get students to strive beyond what is simplest and easiest. They can do so much more then even they think, and we all benefit when they do.
Simon Jester (c8876d) — 4/25/2016 @ 9:10 amThe problem with our analysis of Trump is that we consider him the disease. He is just the symptom of the disease. Like a runny nose, there are multiple symptoms. And we see them displayed here only too frequently.
The disease is the comatose state of the Republican leadership. One example will suffice. Over the weekend the Republican Caucus in Maine, with Delegates from 39 Districts, voted 19 Delegates for Cruz, and only two for Trump in the Delegation to the National Convention. This was in contradiction to the initial voting that sent the Delegates to the Caucus, which split something like 12,8,1. But it was within the rules of the caucus, and it is the way things have been done for a long time. Remarkably, the loudest voice protesting the Saturday result was the Republican Governor of Maine. This person is a career politician serving his second term. He did not become Governor without understanding and using this caucus system and its connections to the grassroots, including the creation of the platform that the Party runs on every election cycle. The same could be said of Susan Collins. But neither will defend the system, and one suddenly wants to tear it down. Of course this person is a Trump supporter, so he can expect popular support for his change of heart. Expediency seasoned with a dash of cowardice has cause these careerists to abandon the system. The only question is how many other things will they betray.
This is a very “progressive” way of doing business, and supporters of the Republican Party have become disgusted with this feature of “compassionate” conservatism. Two years of controlling the House and Senate and all we have to show for it is a continuation of budgeting by omnibus bills, ensuring an ever growing presence of Federal intervention into every aspect of our lives.
BobStewartatHome (a52abe) — 4/25/2016 @ 10:23 amI’m cynical and I DO blame the people (not the GOP leadership), the stupid masses not seeing that with Cruz you get what Trump promises plus well-thought-out policies and positions. The masses don’t see that mimicking Putin puts the nation under Putin’s sway, while adhering to carefully thought and defended principles beats Putin, who as Kasparov says is only playing one day at a time. Cruz will lead and Putin will have to follow, Trump will be Putin’s poodle, like Schroeder. The answer is there but the people have to be wise enough to support it.
bruce (9fb928) — 4/26/2016 @ 4:17 pm