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2/9/2016

New Hampshire Open Thread

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 5:15 pm



Bernie and Trump win. Battle for second among Republicans, with Kasich and Bush currently outpacing Cruz and Rubio.

What a stupid state.

254 Responses to “New Hampshire Open Thread”

  1. I wonder how many dems crossing over to vote in GOP primary, and how that is skewing Bush and Kasich numbers. I say that because talking to coworkers who are openly dem, they all push Bush and Kasich.

    Pete (2535bd)

  2. With this momentum, Kasich is going to survive all the way to South Carolina!

    Dejectedhead (2bc11a)

  3. Heh.

    Patterico (ef7400)

  4. Friggin Bush over 10%?!!!!

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  5. it’s time to let the voters speak

    happyfeet (831175)

  6. Carson has no legitimacy staying in, now. At least he went down with clean shirts.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  7. David Bowies dead-long live Bowie!

    pdbuttons (9e8c6d)

  8. You like apples? How do you like them apples?

    ropelight (f6c4db)

  9. Hilary voters in the know voted for Trump. Her “real” Democrat numbers are equal to Bernie’s. Trump’s “Republican” numbers are really at about 17%.

    nk (dbc370)

  10. When you leave cow hampshire and move to another state, you stay on the voting list for 10 years.
    Record vote, uh huh.

    mg (31009b)

  11. I’m looking forward to seeing how the independents voted, especially whether they went D or R. Whether I like the results or not is irrelevant, I really want to see them. I hope the final exit polls give us this info sometime soon.

    I’m also hoping Cruz takes 2nd, but that’s more a hope than a prediction.

    Arizona CJ (da673d)

  12. Megyn, sweetheart, your graphic showed Ted in SECOND. But he is fighting for third????

    Ohhhhhh. You let your exit polling leak out, eh?

    Lies by omission are still lies, my dear.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  13. #9, nk, registered Democrats can’t vote in the GOP primary in New Hampshire, same with registered GOP voters in the Dem primary – not permitted. However, registered Undecideds can vote in either party’s primary, but they must declare in which party primary they’ll vote.

    ropelight (f6c4db)

  14. I had the overs and unders for Sanders’ margin of victory at 20%, and it seems to be heading that way so far. If it goes above that, Her XXNess’ minions won’t be able to spin it as a moral victory without getting their faces laughed in.

    M. Scott Eiland (1edade)

  15. The SCOTUS injunction today against the EPA was a stark reminder of what is coming if we lose. One vote the other way and King Barack and his ilk will rule with impunity. One.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  16. I understood that, but what makes you a “registered” R or D? Is it a special registration or is an undeclared in 2014 who asked for a Democratic ballot now stuck with getting the D this time too?

    nk (dbc370)

  17. No need to insult a state just because you don’t like who its voters favor.

    Bradley J. Fikes (2c3aa5)

  18. People really don’t like Hillary, do they?

    nk (dbc370)

  19. This is an open primary. All you have to do is ask for a GOP ballot. If I had my way these primaries wouldn’t get any delegates.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  20. I understood that, but what makes you a “registered” R or D?

    Near as I can tell you have to sign a form that says “I hate choices. Lock me down to this party.”

    It’s weirder in California, where party affiliation ONLY matters in presidential primaries. In all other cases everyone gets the same ballot.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  21. She has a very selective audience.

    narciso (732bc0)

  22. i love seeing roobs roundly dismissed by the voters as a wholly inadequate punk-ass beta

    happyfeet (831175)

  23. me too, happyfeet.

    mg (31009b)

  24. Long way to go before making that call, happyfeet. If Rubio finishes above 10% he’ll be getting around the same amount of delegates as everyone but Trump who’s above that line.

    M. Scott Eiland (1edade)

  25. @ ropelight (#8), who wrote,

    You like apples? How do you like them apples?

    The apples aren’t surprising; if he keeps his current margin that would be. But:

    Two-thirds of New Hampshire voters in the GOP primary did not vote for Trump. And this will be his high-water mark.

    I’m pleased with Cruz’ results, all things considered. If this race boils down to a two-person race between him and Trump — because Kasich won’t sell anywhere in the South or West; tonight is also his campaign’s high-water mark — I will be well pleased.

    The Dem results guarantee that the Dem primary will continue its craziness for at least eight more weeks, about which I’m also very well pleased.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  26. Hey, New Hampshire has a town named Laconia! We’re everywhere, man.

    nk (dbc370)

  27. The following is from New Hampshire’s official voter information site:

    In New Hampshire you must be registered to vote. One must be a New Hampshire resident and United States citizen who will be 18 years of age or older on the day of the next election.

    One may register with the town or city clerk’s office or with the community’s Supervisors of the Checklist. Registration must be completed at least 10 days before the election if done in this fashion. One can also register at the polls on Election Day. Proof of age, citizenship, and residence is required to register.

    Traditionally, paper-based systems have been used to register voters. Under these systems, a prospective voter completes a paper form and submits it to election officials. Officials then review the registration and, if appropriate, approve it, adding the name of the voter to the state’s voter registration rolls. With an online registration system, “the voter fills out a form via an internet site, and that paperless form is submitted electronically to election officials.”

    ropelight (f6c4db)

  28. Hi there, Bradley Fikes!

    Dana (86e864)

  29. Hi Dana! Good to see you here. (I have many relatives in NH, which is why I wish Patterico would not bash it).

    Bradley J. Fikes (ddcafa)

  30. the happyfeet newsdesk is calling this one for Mr. The Donald

    that’s right

    Mr. The Donald has won New Hampshire handily this race has been called

    happyfeet (831175)

  31. I’m sure your relatives are the smart ones, Bradley.

    If it comes down to a two-man race, Cruz will get the Teas, and I guess Trump would get the establishment voters.

    Dana (86e864)

  32. @26, go tell the Spartans.

    Sez an heir to the Romans.

    Steve57 (f61b03)

  33. if Mr. Dr. Ben Carson wasn’t such a godawfully off-putting lispy fruit loop one might could think our good friends in New Hampshire might could be a little bit raycess

    happyfeet (831175)

  34. Hillary! is crashing. Again. This is epic. Ol’Hairplugs and Fauxahontas are trying to curry the favor of The One to see who gets to save their day and try to beat the admitted Socialist.

    Bugg (fa64ec)

  35. Actually what I’m most pleased with is being an heir to American Revolutionaries.

    Also, I have framed on my wall a discharge certificate for my great uncle, a Marine at Belleau Wood.

    Steve57 (f61b03)

  36. Buenas Noches, Brother Bradley. What’s up in San Diego?

    ropelight (f6c4db)

  37. Hillary is giving her concession speech now. Bill looks sad, and old, and like he would smiled if someone gave him some pudding.

    Oh, and the governor of Michigan “poisoned” Flint.

    Dana (86e864)

  38. Kasich’s showing is probably the best a conservative could hope for, as Bush have some hope in the South or West after some unexpected event, but I cannot imagine anything that would get anyone voting for Jar Jar. I’m surprised there are that many gullible people in New Hampshire, but then they did give us Souter.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  39. cackling cankles is a liar.

    mg (31009b)

  40. @ Bradley: I’m not going to say that 34% of New Hampshire voters in the GOP primary are stupid, or that it’s a stupid state. I will say that 34% of New Hampshire voters in the GOP primary have been suckered, which on this occasion makes them suckers.

    I’m also going to say, again, that it’s outrageous that Iowa, New Hampshire, and South
    Carolina have this permanent lock on the beginning of the election cycle, and I resent the hell out of it. It is indefensible.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  41. nobody gives even a teensy halfcrap about flint

    nobody cares

    happyfeet (831175)

  42. 30% in…Cruz holding at 3. If this stands, he MORE than accomplished the necessary result.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  43. Keep firing, Beldar! Never stop.

    34%…Cruz gained a few tenths of a percent. Still 3rd.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  44. Hillary’s concession speech is completely tone deaf. She reminds me of Paul Welstone’s memorial service which Dems turned into a series of campaign rants. Shrillary’s a raving megalomaniac.

    ropelight (f6c4db)

  45. Iowa and New Hampshire have had more than their 15 minutes of fame over the years.
    Time to move on.

    mg (31009b)

  46. Bernie looks as if he has some future ISIS members on stage.

    mg (31009b)

  47. I cannot freaking believe that Hillary Clinton used the line “No executive too big to jail!” in her speech tonight. Talk about a tin ear!

    Arizona CJ (da673d)

  48. today was poochie day and I didn’t have even one bite!

    i was talking to this polish girl

    very pretty

    she says tonight in poland they drink the vodka, they eat the herring

    happyfeet (831175)

  49. Wow.

    NH Combined campaign/SuperPAC spending
    $36M Bush
    $18.5M Christie
    $15.2M Rubio
    $12.1M Kasich
    $3.7M Trump
    $1.8M Fiorina
    $580K Cruz

    Cruz strategery, yet again, dwarfs the field in intelligence.

    Is it true no GOP pol has won the nom without winning either Iowa or NH????

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  50. Christie, less than half of Kasich. That’s gotta hurt. Who outside of Ohio believes in Kasich?

    Steve Malynn (b5f891)

  51. I’m having pizza and Doritos and peach pie. What are you giving up for Lent, happyfeet?

    nk (dbc370)

  52. 50-Steve Malynn – The mailman’s union.

    mg (31009b)

  53. Christie, less than half of Kasich. That’s gotta hurt. Who outside of Ohio believes in Kasich?
    Steve Malynn (b5f891) — 2/9/2016 @ 6:32 pm

    He turned a lot of Christians of what with his bragging on Medicaid.

    Steve57 (f61b03)

  54. While I disagree with Beldar’s opinion of Trump voters, he is very correct about the ridiculousness of this process.

    Bugg (fa64ec)

  55. no more cereal

    i never ate cereal then i got a fancy cereal dispenser

    but it was meant for my lil brudder’s family, for them to take home with them at christmas

    thing is it didn’t get here in time, so I filled it up

    and i kept it filled up

    and yeah it’s just way too convenient

    i need to clean it and bag it up

    it’s just way too many carbs for a lil pikachu

    happyfeet (831175)

  56. Trump wins big! Our next president! kasich who? where? canda crud scratch one slimy sociopath. rubio scratch one punk. flush the rest down the political toilet!

    trumpet (43da34)

  57. you almost spelled all the words!

    happyfeet (831175)

  58. So far, the stories of the night are 1) Hillary getting crushed by ultra-Libs, 2) Jeb being given precious cred to carry on (F*CK!!!!!), 3) Rubio momentum dead in its tracks, 4) Cruz surprising, with almost no capital expended.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  59. “No bank can be too big to fail and no executive too big to jail…”

    – Hillary “Bug-Eyed Thyroid Condition” Clinton

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  60. Hillary Clinton For Prison in 2016,

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  61. Hey, New Hampshire has a town named Laconia! We’re everywhere, man.

    Laconia is a great town, right on the shores of Lake Winnipesaukee and Lake Winnisquam. If you ever want to visit, I can recommend a good lakeside hotel at a solid value.

    JVW (d60453)

  62. My father was a proud grad of Laconia HS. Gorgeous country up there.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  63. Trump wins big! Our next president! kasich who? where? canda crud scratch one slimy sociopath. rubio scratch one punk. flush the rest down the political toilet!

    This doesn’t even measure up to the Politico comment standards.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  64. Prediction: Bernie Sanders will seek treatment for a worn-out right arm/elbow with that chopping the air thing he does. Nobody chops the air like Sanders!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  65. Bernie’s on a roll, socialism, socialism, socialism. He’s crazy as a shithouse rat.

    ropelight (f6c4db)

  66. Bill looks sad, and old, and like he would smiled if someone gave him some pudding.

    We’ve always given Billy Jeff his due as an astute political mind. The guy has his faults — too many to count — but he always has a good sense of how the political winds are blowing. Do you think that in his heart of hearts he knows his ersatz wife’s campaign is toast and nothing is going to be able to jump-start it?

    JVW (d60453)

  67. One thing it shows New Hampshire votes against political dynasties.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  68. They forgot to sing Kumbaya.

    ropelight (f6c4db)

  69. Half of Hillary’s support, maybe more among older women, has to come from people who like Billy.

    nk (dbc370)

  70. I’m a Buckeye.
    Kasich is a Communist Corpse lover.
    Kasich is a Medicaid big spender.
    I was in Kasich’s corner when he wrote the Gingrich Budget that Bill Clinton claimed as his own. “The era of Big Government is over”.

    I am not in turn-coat Kasich’s corner now.
    And if you check the record on this site, I had said I didn’t think Cruz could get second place in the Boston suburb of New Hampshire.

    John Hitchcock (6dce1b)

  71. I liked Kasich in the House. I liked him as a talking head on Fox. Gov Kasich and candidate Kasich suck.

    JD (f36f05)

  72. I’m listening to Trump speak. He’s talking of love of country. That no one will mess with us.

    This is powerful stuff.

    For the first time in 8 years, maybe a President who is proud of this country.

    Don’t underestimate this guy.

    Steve57 (f61b03)

  73. I am sure that before the night is over we will again be reminded why The Donald is such a bargain-basement demagogue. If only he could step up his game he could be a real demagogue like the Kingfisher.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  74. I don’t want “no one to mess with us”. I want a country that stands for something other than “don’t mess with us.”

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  75. He doesn’t know a Virginia Class submarine from an F-18 from an M-16.

    Steve57 (f61b03)

  76. Kevin, as I was mentioning to Beldar, what I want and what I’m likely to get are two entirely different things.

    Steve57 (f61b03)

  77. Sanders 59% to Clinton’s 39% — Holy ass-kicking, Batman!

    Pons Asinorum (49e2e8)

  78. 41. happyfeet (831175) — 2/9/2016 @ 6:19 pm

    nobody gives even a teensy halfcrap about flint

    nobody cares

    Hillary is resting her whole campaign strategy on Flint. She even managed to get a Democratic debate before the Michigan primary in Flint. She wants to us it to hold on to the black vote. Now if Bernie Sanders, or even the media, or even Donald Trump, can discuss this intelligently, she’s finished.

    People are understanding it better than they did three weeks ago and the coverage is getting more accurate.

    The water wasn’t “poisoned.” at least not with lead. The problem is not and was not, at every home in Flint. It was very patchy and spotty. Maybe 5% of the homes were affected. It had to do with with the local pipes, some owned by the city more by the home owner. The problem isn’t only in Flint. The same thing happened in Washington, D.C. from 2001 to 2004 and in Sebring, Ohio last year. The problem in Flint is pretty much remedied, except maybe for somebody with completely rusted pipes. What was wrong is the entire professional training of some people. The regulatory system is wrong, and it makes no provision for fixing it by adding something to the water. Instead, a slow replacement of lead pipes is mandated, once the probblem has reached a certain point..

    People with actual experience know what to do. Add orthophosphates to the water, which changes the pH and coats the lead pipes with lead oxide.

    http://extension.psu.edu/natural-resources/water/drinking-water/water-testing/pollutants/lead-in-drinking-water [says nothing about changing the composition of municipal water]

    How to cure this (not really recognized by federal regulations) These links seem to be more for people with their private supply of own water.

    http://www.trusselltech.com/technologies/corrosion-stabilization/water-treatment-to-reduce-lead-and-copper-levels [Note it says it is not practical to remove lead pipes]

    http://corrosion-doctors.org/Household/water-treatment.htm

    A Mother Jones article on this: (that probably wouldn’t help Hillary misrepresent what happened there.)

    http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/01/why-flints-water-still-unsafe-or-it

    Sammy Finkelman (1a8d7e)

  79. Right now, Trump is projected with 8 delegates and Kasich with 2, another 13 to be divvied up. How do they split the delegates? What do Cruz and Bush need in order to get delegates?

    John Hitchcock (6dce1b)

  80. New Hampshire.

    Big winner, GOP: Kasich. Big looza: Governor Soprano.

    A bridge too far.

    Big winner, Dems: America’s Middle Class. Big looza: Biden.

    Should have run, Joe. Pantsuits and bra burners are too 1970’s for 2016.

    DCSCA (a343d5)

  81. 76. Pons Asinorum (49e2e8) — 2/9/2016 @ 7:14 pm

    Sanders 59% to Clinton’s 39% — Holy ass-kicking, Batman!

    And that’s with a lot of people who might otherwise vote for Sanders voting for Bush or maybe Kasich! (People who turned around and noticed they were registered Republicans, or who were Undeclared.)

    The race for second place was more suspenseful than anything else and seemed to be the more important race, I would suspect.

    Sammy Finkelman (1a8d7e)

  82. America’s Middle Class “winning” with Dems. That is the highlarious comment winner!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  83. I liked Kasich in the House. I liked him as a talking head on Fox. Gov Kasich and candidate Kasich suck.

    JD (f36f05) — 2/9/2016 @ 7:03 pm

    Almost word for word what I replied to my wife when – a few months ago – she said “but I thought you liked Kasich.”

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  84. Decision Desk says its “gut” says Cruz will hold on to 3rd, but will not call it. Cruz gained ~ a tenth in his margin over Bush in the last 10% of precincts counted/revealed.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  85. Beldar (fa637a) — 2/9/2016 @ 6:03 pm

    I’m pleased with Cruz’ results, all things considered. If this race boils down to a two-person race between him and Trump — because Kasich won’t sell anywhere in the South or West; tonight is also his campaign’s high-water mark — I will be well pleased.

    The Dem results guarantee that the Dem primary will continue its craziness for at least eight more weeks, about which I’m also very well pleased.

    The results you are talking about are exactly what is needed to get Michael Bloomberg into the race, shortly after March 1. Bloomberg being in the race (as an independent) will affect the voting on the Democratic primaries.

    By the way, things might not look that way later but that would be after Bloomberg makes a decision.

    Bloomberg’s strategy, I think, would be to replace the Republican as the main challenger in some states (like New York) and the Democrat in others (like Texas) and have almost all the members of one party – two thirds anyway – plus members of the other party repulsed by the nominee – vote for him, and then to carry enough states to at least throw the election into the House of Representatives, and then to have a deadlocked (but majority Republican) House vote for him as a compromise choice.

    Because states can be divided, and not cast a vote, something like a 57% majority is needed for the House to select a president. Although the number of people in Congress who will need to switch their votes will be relatively few.

    Sammy Finkelman (1a8d7e)

  86. NH is chock full of ignorant douches…60% of the vote tallied, 205K for Trump/Sanders/Clinton (80% of votes cast)…half of which made their decision recently (today).

    Who are these people? And how did they get elevated to such undeserved esteem?

    pieter (ec44a2)

  87. So much for clarity.

    Current SC polling mirrors NH result. Sorry hardcases.

    DNF (755a85)

  88. what I want and what I’m likely to get
    what I want and what I get… that’s nagging me, there is a song lyric something like that but I can’t place it.. Rich Mullins?…???

    MD in Philly (at the moment not in Philly) (deca84)

  89. Rubio should’ve made more robo-calls.

    Icy (8ee18a)

  90. So, by the logic of last week, Cruz finishing third, would mean he won. Am I missing something?

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  91. Current SC polling mirrors NH result. Sorry hardcases.

    Don’t the SC polls show Kasich at 2%…not 16%?

    Dejectedhead (2bc11a)

  92. By the logic of a squish state that is the suburb of a Leftist city, Cruz did fairly well. Bush and Christie fell flat on their faces in a state that was right up their alleys.

    John Hitchcock (6dce1b)

  93. 87. Me disculpe, Ud.

    Apart from Democrat Kasich, SC mirrors NH at the moment.

    DNF (755a85)

  94. You can’t always get what you want
    (Repeats)
    But if you try
    Sometimes
    You get what you need
    ?

    nk (dbc370)

  95. The Rolling (around wasted) Stone(r)s

    John Hitchcock (6dce1b)

  96. “Fevah (feel teh Bern)”

    Never knew how much they loved ya
    Never knew how much they cared
    When you stretch your arm and chop air
    They get a fevah that’s so hard to bear
    You give Dems fevah
    When you get riled
    Fevah when you scold the rich
    Fevah! in the morning
    Fevah when you beat teh Bi+ch

    You grew up in Brooklyn
    Raised as a little Marxist kid
    Never had a penny to your name
    Lived in a sugar shack is what you did
    You give Dems fevah
    When you kvetch so
    Fevah when you tell ’em it’s free
    Fevah! get in line now
    tells ’em that cash grows on a tree

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  97. On the bright side Roobs crapped out.

    DNF (755a85)

  98. Do one with
    It is the gasping of the aged septagenarians, Haiku.

    nk (dbc370)

  99. We’re about to get an upgrade to the class of migrant:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-09/jingle-mail-makes-comeback-canada-underwater-borrowers-mail-keys-back-banks

    Canadian banks have set aside 0.4% of loans to shale oil outfits in contrast to America’s 5-6% against Bakken bankruptcies and we are expecting a sh!tstorm here where collateral is expected to be used one loan at a time.

    DNF (755a85)

  100. septuagenarians

    nk (dbc370)

  101. I saw Hill today in teh New Hampshire
    A bug-eyed look on her face
    I knew she would lose all perspective
    At her feet was her horndog man
    No, you can’t always get what you want
    You can’t always get what you want
    You can’t always get what you want
    But if you try sometime you find
    You get what you need

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  102. Good-bye Governor Christie. Eighteen Mill and what do you get? Nothing.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  103. No one undecided, or poachable, in South Carolina is going to move toward Fiorina, Carson, Christie, or Gilmore (heh; and Gen. Francisco Franco is still dead) even if they don’t drop out. Together, those candidates got 14% of the New Hampshire electorate, which historically skews far more moderate/liberal than South Carolina or any of the SEC+Nev primary states. So while it’s possible that some few of those Fiorina-Carson-Christie-Gilmore voters in those next-voting states might migrate to Jeb or Rubio, I think it’s far more likely that they’ll end up being split among either Trump or Cruz, simply because in general, people don’t migrate toward someone who’s campaign is either stalled or sinking, and in particular they don’t do that in the middle or late part of a voting cycle.

    And those woulda-been-Fiorina-Carson-Christie-Gilmore voters are, by definition, smart enough not to have been conned yet by Trump. Even Trump supporters have to concede that his pitch isn’t a subtle and complex one that takes time to appreciate; neither is his personality, love him or hate him.

    Assuming that both Rubio and Jeb stay in — and I think that’s in fact likely for at least a few more days, and probably through South Carolina, because they both still have unspent money (but not much new money coming in. Who here thinks either Rubio or Jeb is suddenly going to do much, much better than they did tonight? If one of them quit and endorsed the other, then that one might indeed pick up the Establishment voters who can’t work up any enthusiasm for Kasich.

    So what I think is likely to end up happening in South Carolina is that Trump will pull roughly a third; Cruz will pull roughly a third; and the last third will be split between Kasich, Jeb, and Rubio. Two of those three stay in to the SEC-Nev Super Tuesday, in which they do abysmally. And that’s the day that Cruz will pull ahead of Trump in the delegate count, a lead that he’ll maintain through the convention.

    Trump will rump and run as a third-party candidate, as will Bloomberg. Cruz carries 40 states in the electoral college in a mandate election.

    That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  104. Bernie is our biggest friend these days; he is attacking the corruption of the Dems, which holds more weight than a Rep candidate doing so. I guess Huff Post is therefore going insane lol!!

    Patricia (5fc097)

  105. Any guesses on who drops out before SC?

    I’ll probably be proven wrong within hours, but my guess is no one.

    I’m seriously scratching my head as to why someone with absolutely zero chance and embarrassingly tiny vote totals would stay in at this point? I’m referring to the guy who came in a very distant last place in Iowa and NH; Jim Gilmore. He’s on track to get about 140 total votes in the two combined.

    Arizona CJ (da673d)

  106. Thanks nk,
    but no,
    what I’m thinking of is actually a song about trusting God when what we expected (which is pleasing to us) doesn’t happen, and we get something difficult instead

    but I know someone who played that song at the beginning of a department of medicine grand rounds on antibiotic choices and the hospital formulary…

    oh, now I know (stream of consciousness)
    “What I thought I wanted, what I got instead…”
    Sara Groves
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNPjYghwLO0

    MD in Philly (at the moment not in Philly) (deca84)

  107. Sign me up, Beldar!

    I think Rubio is going to do very well in SC. He has an impressive array of established and liked GOP pols there working for him. Trump is going to take too many votes from Ted’s natural constituency, the very ones who would crawl over glass to vote for him in a general election.

    As much as I can not stand him, Jeb may, just may, erode some of the support Rubio would otherwise have had, though.

    I see it Trump, with Cruz and Rubio in a death match for 2nd. This will be good enough for Ted to make his winning move in the SEC.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  108. Well, now, I’m worried about you and Hoagie if there’s a replay of Chicago ’68 in Philadelphia in July. Sure, the hippies are a lot older but they can still do a lot of damage with their walkers, canes and mobility scooters. 😉

    nk (dbc370)

  109. I doubt neither Hoagie nor I will be anywhere near any “festivities”
    and #1 son is now a detective, unlikely to be on the battle lines
    but thanks for the concern…

    MD in Philly (at the moment not in Philly) (deca84)

  110. Memo to Hillary.

    Why did you get Berned by 20%?

    1. The pantsuits. They chafe not only your thighs but our eyes.

    Dressing down in double-knit like an extra from an episode of “Maude,” circa 1975, isn’t going to win over anybody these days, let alone young ladies who’ve seen Polaroids of their grandmas in those outfits. 2016 women picture you burning support hose, not a bra.

    2. The voice. Gawd-awful shrill.

    You sound like every man’s first wife from 1976 who’d be badgering them to take out the trash in the middle of the 4th quarter of Monday Night Football as Cosell goes into a tirade over the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders shaking their pom-poms for Dandy Don. After the first 30 seconds, you’re white noise then it’s ‘turn out the lights, the party’s over.’ Nobody’s listening.

    3. The cadaver. Leave ‘The Walking Dead’ to AMC.

    It speaks volumes that Bernie, the automatron in Disneyworld’s Hall of Presidents and the semen stain on Monica’s dress all may have more life in them than the real thing. Lose him.

    DCSCA (a343d5)

  111. When the mind is making promises
    the body can not keep
    Then prunes will Guide the movements
    And memories will fade

    it is the gasping of the aged septuagenarians
    The Aged septuagenarians
    Septuagenarians! Septuagenarians!

    Polident and kaopectate
    Depends fiber cereal
    No more tennis or orgasms
    Golden living scary visions
    Low-far yogurt saltine crackers
    And a million medications

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  112. Ted Cruz wins the Iowa caucuses and then takes a thumping from Kasich? Kasich? What’s up with that?

    ropelight (f6c4db)

  113. I bow in obeisance to you, Haiku.

    nk (dbc370)

  114. MSNBC is rerunning Hillary Clinton’s “Let’s pretend I won” speech.

    She lost big time. She lost butt ugly. The people have spoken and it was a whooping.

    But then she has a network in her pocket.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  115. You could beat that, nk.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  116. “what a stupid state”.
    What a stupid state, indeed!
    A 1/3 of the popul of Iowa, and Iowa is not that big either.
    What is NH? 1 million peops?
    Important for what?

    jb (8a9f1d)

  117. New Hampshire is a squish suburb of Boston. It would have been a huge coup if a Conservative even came in second in that state. Since a Conservative looks to be placing third, that’s doing pretty good. Cruz is the highest-placing Conservative in a squish state.

    John Hitchcock (6dce1b)

  118. Cruz won Iowa and somehow managed to get less press exposure afterwards, nearly a ten percent drop from the fraction left over from their non-stop fellating of Trump. It’s fixed, the media wants a democrat.

    pieter (ec44a2)

  119. A week and a half ago Patterico was gloating over Trumps´ first major miss-step,

    ( skipping the Fox debate ) the one that was gonna cost him.

    Looks like Gang-Of-Eight Maricon´ Rubio and the other GOPe s weren´t able to finish Donald off after all.

    Oh, and thanks for getting right on to the post and admitting you were wrong, Patterico.

    Very classy.

    Jerry (7b38ac)

  120. Jerry…hug a root, will ya?

    pieter (ec44a2)

  121. Guess who I just saw (and blocked) on Twitter?

    Our old pal Christoph Dollis.

    Going around praising Donald Trump and repeatedly calling everyone else a “cuck.”

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  122. Jerry, go tell your mother she wants you. I’m sure it’ll be a shock to both of you.

    John Hitchcock (6dce1b)

  123. A week and a half ago Patterico was gloating over Trumps´ first major miss-step,

    ( skipping the Fox debate ) the one that was gonna cost him.

    Looks like Gang-Of-Eight Maricon´ Rubio and the other GOPe s weren´t able to finish Donald off after all.

    Oh, and thanks for getting right on to the post and admitting you were wrong, Patterico.

    Very classy.

    Dumbass:

    I didn’t say skipping that debate was going to cost Trump New Hampshire. I said it was going to cost him Iowa.

    And it did.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  124. Ted Cruz wins the Iowa caucuses and then takes a thumping from Kasich? Kasich? What’s up with that?

    New Hampshire. Duh.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  125. Patterico, sorry not familiar…new to this bar.

    pieter (ec44a2)

  126. Christoph got banned here, then got several socks banned here.

    John Hitchcock (6dce1b)

  127. John, oh…thanks. I can see now why that would provide some mirth.

    pieter (ec44a2)

  128. Cruz joked about Trump nuking Denmark…any chance a President Trump would get confused and accidentally nuke NH? Just wonderin’…

    pieter (ec44a2)

  129. As of now…Bernie up 20 points, HRC still gets 13 of 32 NH delegates with 4 undecided? Wow.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  130. Sorry…way out of line, at no time is the use of thermonuclear weapons ever funny. Kidding, a glowing granite state would be an amazing tourist attraction…at least wearing the right protective gear.

    pieter (ec44a2)

  131. Apparently, what happens in Iowa stays in Iowa.

    ropelight (f6c4db)

  132. Democrats also use SuperDelegates, which severely weaken the democratic process. Because Democrats don’t like the little people deciding for them. I’m wondering how soon the US Chamber of Commerce will add SuperDelegates to the GOP side as well.

    John Hitchcock (6dce1b)

  133. Apparently idiotic Trumpsters love it when squish states do squish things.

    John Hitchcock (6dce1b)

  134. Rope, you hit it on the head…stole it’s wallet and are buying drinks for both real and imaginary friends.

    pieter (ec44a2)

  135. She has half the superdelegates (355 out of 712) already committed to her, too, according to Al Gore’s internets. The Democrats might just give us a better show than Trump.

    When the superdelegates meet in Philly
    And the Occupy crowd says Bernie should win
    And the flower children get a Geritol high
    And the Philly cops with tear gas step in

    It is the gasping of the aged septuagenarians
    The aged septuagenarians

    nk (dbc370)

  136. John, half the voters decided today…over half the GOP voters want a complete halt to Muslim immigration (on this I agree)…they did not care about Trump’s past support for what most of us consider deal breakers. Simple as that.

    LIVs greatly outnumber those that possess any measure of reason and understanding of civics. Buy ammo and pray.

    pieter (ec44a2)

  137. Christoph has gone full White Nationalist. He follows a bunch of those accounts on Twitter and talks about it nonstop.

    I knew I didn’t like the guy. I didn’t realize how right I was.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  138. Ropelight,
    In San Diego, for me it’s biotech coverage. We also have an ex-mayor who has convinced himself that he didn’t sexually harass any women. And, a bit of welcome rain.

    Bradley J. Fikes (ddcafa)

  139. When Obama got elected the first time, I said the Tribulation had suddenly gotten 40 years closer.
    When Obama got re-elected, I said the Tribulation had become imminent.
    If Trump, Clinton, or Sanders gets elected, the time-table for the Tribulation is unchanged. The obvious imminency of it is merely amplified.

    John Hitchcock (6dce1b)

  140. Looks like Bush will have spent over 1000 dollars per vote. He should’ve just bought everyone a pony, like that Vermin character.

    John Hitchcock (6dce1b)

  141. Beldar,
    I wouldn’t presume that all the Trump voters were suckered. It depends on what their motivations are. The Tucker Carlson piece is an excellent look at how this happened.

    Bradley J. Fikes (ddcafa)

  142. And Christie spent nearly 1000 dollars per vote.

    John Hitchcock (6dce1b)

  143. Trump,Trump,Trump,Trump, Trumpity Trump. Wonderful Trump.

    That greasy Cuban doesn’t stand a chance. No Ricky Ricardo in the White House!!! We’ve had 3 Texan disasters in the White House; no more!!

    dee (90c0b5)

  144. Just take your pill and go to sleep, Perry.

    nk (dbc370)

  145. Looks like the Obama hugger from New Jersey is toast. Good riddance.

    M. Scott Eiland (9fd59f)

  146. What a dirtball. All Aryan and junk.

    John Hitchcock (6dce1b)

  147. Has anyone asked the nine-year old boy about the results?

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  148. Decision Desk calls 3rd place for CRUZ.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  149. My best guess:

    Since Bush is back in the race, I expect much of Rubio’s support, which was mostly GOPe types hedging their bet, will quickly coalesce around JEB. If so, that leaves the race with Trump, Cruz and Bush fighting it out with Kasich and the other also rans dwindling away, or fading to insignificance.

    South Carolina will winnow out the weak sisters and the SEC primaries will pit the top 3 (Trump, Cruz and JEB) in a cage match from which one dominant front runner will emerge with a chastened opponent holding out for a long shot miracle in Nevada.

    ropelight (f6c4db)

  150. Will Christie sing something from Born To Run, you think?

    The highway’s jammed with broken heroes on a last chance power drive
    Everybody’s out on the run tonight
    but there’s no place left to hide
    ….

    Cause tranps like us, baby, we were born to run

    nk (dbc370)

  151. Looking at how much each candidate spent in NH is very telling IMHO.

    Sorry for all caps, but to be clear, I DO NOT KNOW THE BELOW FIGURES ARE ACCURATE.
    http://s1362.photobucket.com/user/amurrell1/media/4a83809e-f60c-4f0e-8f1f-69f4c560723a_zpsbpzw7b6e.jpg.html

    Combined campaign/Super PAC spending in NH;
    Bush 36 million
    Christie 18.5 million
    Rubio 15.2 million
    Kasich 12.1 million
    Trump 3.7 million
    Fiorina 1.8 million
    Cruz .6 million

    My take: Cruz decided not to seriously contest NH and thus conserve his resources for SC. Some others bet the farm on NH. Given the demographics and the results, I’d say Cruz made a wise choice.
    Bush, on the other hand, IMHO did not get much for his money (4th place), but, had to make a play in NH due to facing unfavorable ground in SC.

    If anyone has better numbers, please post.

    I’m trying to find estimates of current cash on hand for the campaigns. All I’ve found so far are estimates as of the first of the year from the NY times and FEC filings;
    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/election-2016-campaign-money-race.html

    Money isn’t everything, but IMHO cash on hand now is a good metric for examining the viability of a campaign. If a candidate has very little AND did very poorly in NH, my guess is they are toast*.

    I’ve seen numbers for Cruz cash on hand at 19 million, no idea if true. If so, probably the best in the R race.

    *Caveat: Trump’s campaign usually has less cash on hand than anyone but Gilmore’s, but IMHO the campaign-cash-on-hand metric does not fit well for Trump due to him largely self-funding.

    Arizona CJ (da673d)

  152. Cruz has a very clear combined organizational and monetary advantage over all of them. Trump can spend whatever he wants, though. Bush could ramp up an organization if he manages to be relevant after March 1st.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  153. My take: Cruz decided not to seriously contest NH and thus conserve his resources for SC.

    Arizona CJ (da673d) — 2/9/2016 @ 9:57 pm

    Spot on, Arizona CJ.

    It was reported on Stossel’s show that Mr. Cruz’s campaign is using data analytics. It would not be surprising if such a model yielded an optimum votes/resources ratio for each state.

    Such a model probably suggested just what you stated: save resources for more favorable battlegrounds. The resources that the Cruz campaign did put into NH earned him a bronze — not to shabby considering the political terrain; minimum cost gave maximum results.

    I feel quite good about the intelligent manner in which Cruz is running his campaign. He has positioned himself well, with respect to votes/resources remaining. This is smart strategy, Sun Tzu type stuff.

    Pons Asinorum (49e2e8)

  154. @ Ed from SFV #149

    Agreed on Cruz’s finances. One of the things that impressed me about him early on is he’s running a very efficient campaign, and has a low burn rate.

    Burn rate has always been an important metric for me; a campaign that has a high one tends not to do well long term. One of the first sign of trouble from Carson’s (back when he was booming) was the high burn rate.

    As for Trump… I have absolutely no clue how to even start rating his campaign’s monetary health, so I won’t even try. The normal metrics just don’t fit when dealing with candidates that have a significant percentage of self-funding.

    As for Bush, IMHO he’s on course for a cash crunch. His cash on hand has been dropping fast, and his fundraising hasn’t been keeping pace. He’s also spending profligately on nonessential things (a leased Bizjet and luxury accommodations, to name just two). If he does poorly in SC, my guess is he’ll face a cash crunch. Right now, word (unconfirmed!) is that he’s about to launch a major ad blitz against Rubio and Kasich. However, if he, and not Rubio, looks like the best hope the GOPe has, all bets are off because I suspect he’ll get backing that normally wouldn’t happen with results like his.

    Arizona CJ (da673d)

  155. @ Pons Asinorum, #150

    His tactics and efficiency impressed me too. My take is he did okay in NH, given the demographics, and was wise not to go all in on it.

    Trump, though, didn’t do badly out of spending less than 1/10 what Bush did, but NH was favorable ground for him (and not incidentally, Bush).

    Arizona CJ (da673d)

  156. Totally agree Arizona.

    In addition to Mr, Trump’s cash is his brand, which also has value. He has expertly leveraged that brand with the media, especially television. It is almost like a doubling of his money.

    Mr. Cruz definitely has his work cut out for him.

    Pons Asinorum (49e2e8)

  157. Col and nk, woke my wife- laughing at your comments. I was doing so good.

    mg (31009b)

  158. Some dude on CNN just now predicted Paul Ryan would be the GOP candidate coming out of a brokered convention.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  159. Traitor ryan would get beat by a dead Hubert H. Humphrey.

    mg (31009b)

  160. The TDS is strong on that channel.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  161. In San Diego, for me it’s biotech coverage. We also have an ex-mayor who has convinced himself that he didn’t sexually harass any women. And, a bit of welcome rain.

    Bradley J. Fikes (ddcafa) — 2/9/2016 @ 9:05 pm

    What was just so grand about Filthy Filner was not only was he convicted of assault, but all that whispering about his sexual peccadilloes from as far back as 35 years ago turned out to have some truth. And we STILL had to pay out settlement money to get him gone.

    Bleah. Don’t get me started.

    Bill H (dcdd7b)

  162. #100: Agreed except that I don’t think Rubio is declining in any respect. One of Bush or Rubio will survive until the fat lady sings.

    Everyone talked about the Rubio the Robot thing, but really there were several robots out during that debate, and Christie was probably worse. One could go back to the last X debates and probably pull out a dozen “I’m a governator, and I have to stand by my decisions” pitches without trying hard. Four or five times last Saturday.

    Rubio really needs to be able to deal with that kind of badgering better, and I suspect next time out he will.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  163. So what I think is likely to end up happening in South Carolina is that Trump will pull roughly a third; Cruz will pull roughly a third; and the last third will be split between Kasich, Jeb, and Rubio. Two of those three stay in to the SEC-Nev Super Tuesday, in which they do abysmally. And that’s the day that Cruz will pull ahead of Trump in the delegate count, a lead that he’ll maintain through the convention.

    All except Kasich getting diddly in SC. He spent $12 million and all his time in NH, while everyone else was contesting Iowa. How much money does he have, really? I can’t believe he has anyone on the ground there. His share will be the confused people and the students not voting for Bernie. 5%.

    Assuming Carson, Christie and Fiorina are out, SC will go:

    Trump 35
    Cruz 30
    Rubio 20
    Bush 10
    Kasich 5

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  164. Ted Cruz wins the Iowa caucuses and then takes a thumping from Kasich? Kasich? What’s up with that?

    Kasich skipped Iowa. He poured millions into NH, along with all his time. This is the best he can do until Ohio votes.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  165. Democrats also use SuperDelegates, which severely weaken the democratic process.

    Yes, but if Bernie wins all the primaries (or enough so that he can reasonably claim that) and the SuperDelegates try to steal the nomination in some fit of sanity, they can kiss November good-bye. They learned that in 1968, which left them completely unable to avoid the trainwreck of the McGovern disaster.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  166. His tactics and efficiency impressed me too. My take is he did okay in NH, given the demographics, and was wise not to go all in on it.

    Having won Iowa made this decision possible.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  167. Some dude on CNN just now predicted Paul Ryan would be the GOP candidate coming out of a brokered convention.

    A deadlocked convention (one that could not turn to Rubio or Bush) would probably turn to Romney next. If it cannot be someone who has a campaign team geared up, it would have to be someone who has seen the elephant.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  168. @ ropelight: “Thumping” suggests a big margin. There is not a big margin between Cruz and Kasich; that’s a poor choice of words.

    At least it’s not a dishonest choice of words, as when Trump claimed to have finished a “strong second” in Iowa, where he was much closer to third place than first. That’s a weak second.

    But Trump thumped everyone last night. I picked pretty much the correct finish order, but I expected that he’d lose at least 10 points off his polling, and he didn’t; he over-performed his polling numbers.

    The only reason I’m bothering to quibble with you — I can’t convince you, and you can’t convince anyone — is that while Trump’s victory is obvious, the impact of tonight’s results on the rest of the field, who collectively thumped Trump as badly as he thumped any individual candidate (i.e., two to one), is worth discussion.

    Suppose your comment were accurate. Suppose Kasich had run 15 points ahead of Cruz and everyone else. If that had happened, it would have had a very different effect on the rest of the field, most likely resulting in more establishment GOP figures (Jeb, Rubio, Christie) withdrawing. As is, of those three, only Christie looks likely to withdraw.

    Although Trump is my last-place choice among the GOP candidates by a yuuuuuge margin, I’d rather not see Kasich or any of the other establishment candidates thrive to that extent. Rather, I’m entirely content with this result, from my position as a Cruz supporter.

    I think you — and Trump — very much wish that Cruz had done poorly in New Hampshire. But like Trump, he also exceeded his expectations there, which makes two contests in a row in which that’s been true.

    You can’t shame the shameless. That’s the truth I missed when I thought Trump would likely drop out before this point. So that means that Trump is going to have to be beaten.

    He will be. He’s maxed out, or within a percent or two of it, because everyone else who might conceivably vote in any remaining GOP primaries considers Trump their very last choice. Thirty-four percent can never make a nominee, and there is no two-way race that Trump can win in the GOP.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  169. The “some dude” talking about Ryan was Carl Bernstein, for what that’s worth. I’m a fan of Ryan’s, but I don’t think this is a credible fantasy, nor anything that Ryan would want or could be persuaded to do in these circumstances.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  170. By the way, regarding Trump’s very impressive margin: I heard tonight that it’s the largest margin of victory in a GOP primary since John McCain beat George W. Bush there in 2000.

    Which is to say: Winning big in New Hampshire is nice, but hardly decisive of anything except New Hampshire’s delegates.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  171. big big win

    very elegant

    happyfeet (831175)

  172. Traitor Ryan might have to run as a democrat next election, according to some friends from Wisconsin. Yea.

    mg (31009b)

  173. Luntz,Fox and Silver better regroup with the R.N.C. and come up with a plan to decapitate trump and Cruz voters, because their lying efforts will not work. The media needs an abortion.

    mg (31009b)

  174. lmao at National Review and Nick Lowry, Red State and Erickson and Booshes Mike Murphy, keep wasting the R.N.C.’s money.

    mg (31009b)

  175. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7zdr-82WAo

    Just doing it Gangnam style.

    Yeah. Its so 2012.

    Steve57 (f61b03)

  176. Tell me about it, I live here. A Cruz fan and am glad be performed can better than expected but don’t think that’s going to be covered. We’re doomed!

    Terry (a6cb59)

  177. Rush will be a spin class today. He is a loser when he tries to tread water.

    mg (31009b)

  178. Some dude on CNN just now predicted Paul Ryan would be the GOP candidate coming out of a brokered convention.

    A deadlocked convention (one that could not turn to Rubio or Bush) would probably turn to Romney next. If it cannot be someone who has a campaign team geared up, it would have to be someone who has seen the elephant.

    Kevin M (25bbee) — 2/10/2016 @ 1:00 am

    Romney or Trump the theme would be remarkably similar: “I’m more competent than her”. Nothing about ideology, the Constitution etc. Except Romney wouldn’t have anything to say about the border. For some people that makes all the difference.

    Gerald A (7c7ffb)

  179. there’s no such thing as a brokered convention

    there’s normal ones

    there’s corrupt ones

    happyfeet (831175)

  180. http://www.c-span.org/video/?404518-1/ted-cruz-primary-night-speech

    No ego with Ted Cruz. He puts the ball in the peoples hand as we see here in his speech. His message is simple. To expose the republicans that are in bed with the demon-rats of DC for $$ and power. Trump is fooling all of those that think he wont go to DC and play their game. Trump will be no different than BO if he wins. Only Cruz will undo all the executive BO decisions. Trump will be in freshman orientation of parliamentary procedures for his first year. He will be too busy redecorating the WH to get anything done. Trump is not smart enough to undo Obama’s wicked deeds

    JRT (bc7456)

  181. Got this site from listening to Levin the other night as he was hammering Crispy Crème.
    Very nice site

    JRT (bc7456)

  182. Your Simpson’s photo makes you look like a younger Shoebat. Is that you Shoebat?

    JRT (bc7456)

  183. We all saw Christie take Rubio to the woodshed, can you imagine the job he could do on Milktoast Romney?

    ropelight (20b273)

  184. So those vapors over a probable plant in the audience weren’t really helpful.

    narciso (732bc0)

  185. “What a stupid state”
    Are you going to throw a tantrum, or just pout?
    It might be your cup of tea, but FFS- calling the state stupid is a bit like…acting like a college kid bitching about “microagressions”.
    Yeah, I know, it’s your blog and you can say what you want. I just expected better from you.

    Frank (10a759)

  186. So those vapors over a probable plant in the audience weren’t really helpful.

    Yeah, I fully expected my Trump jokes to put Cruz over the top. What happened? Was it my delivery?

    nk (dbc370)

  187. I’m no Rubio fan but Rubio gave it back to Crispy Crème, just as he deserves. 5ft wide 5ft tall Christy’s record in NJ is one of the worst Governors records there is. People in NJ hate Christy…. but the politicians wont get rid of term limits in DC senate as Crispy is so jealous of as he compares his office to. Hacks like Christy just get fed more. Christy as president would be about as good as useless governor Carter was….

    JRT (bc7456)

  188. I thought Rubio had a point, if you miss by a point I wouldn’t apologize.

    narciso (732bc0)

  189. #166, Beldar, Come-on man! If thumping seems too sharp a description, I have no objection to changing it to a razor thin victory over 4th place finishers Bush and Rubio.

    You’re wrong when you say, I can’t convince you, because you already did. You convinced me to support Sarah Palin, and I’m still glad you took the time to make a case for her candidacy. Your argument convinced me and I remain grateful for your persuasive recommendation.

    Nor do I object to your attempts to put the best face possible on last night’s results. Of course it’s not how I would characterize Trump’s victory, but you’re certainly entitled to look for a silver lining. In fact, you proudly proclaim, I’m entirely content with this result, from my position as a Cruz supporter.

    I join you in part in that sentiment and hope you enjoy several more such moments of content in the near future. (I apologize for the snark, but I just couldn’t help myself, you know being unable to convince anyone to see beyond the end of their nose and all.)

    PS: You can easily substitute sausage for the ham in my grits recipe.

    ropelight (20b273)

  190. this one place i really heart here tops their grits with thinly sliced persian cucumbers

    so so good

    happyfeet (831175)

  191. To the first poster on this thread……. Your comment sums it up, but not just for these first two states, but all across the country. The democrat party is dead. Hillary and Bernie have killed it. Most democrats are TRUMP supporters. Trump should be banned from running as a republican by all true conservatives. When you look at the number of primary voter of the republican vs. the democrats…. things don’t add up.

    JRT (bc7456)

  192. Pissibly, that’s how maverick won in 2000, one of rubio’s new associates, stomped on him in south carolina, but rove was blamed.

    narciso (732bc0)

  193. Mr. Trump is so good i think he’s under-rated by a lot of people for example Mr. JRT

    but that’s ok it’s all gonna work out fine

    i just have a feeling

    happyfeet (831175)

  194. Persian Cucumbers? Well, ya got me thinkin’ – garnish or a substitute for eggs? How do they flavor the grits?

    ropelight (20b273)

  195. Ted should just announce his VP and wrap this thing up.

    JRT (bc7456)

  196. ack they’ve changered it up – but yeah it had a soft egg too with the cucumbers

    here

    now it’s got chicken sausage, “Sicilian salsa verde,” and soft egg

    happyfeet (831175)

  197. it was a lil more than garnish though – it brought a lot to the dish for reals

    happyfeet (831175)

  198. “Donald Trump in Driver’s Seat on Way to Presidential Nomination”

    6:44 AM, Feb 10, 2016 | By Fred Barnes

    Every Republican candidate who finished first and second in Iowa and New Hampshire has won the presidential nomination. Having done so, Trump is now in a class with Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Bob Dole, George W. Bush, and Mitt Romney.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/2001015/

    sound awake (6ad1ec)

  199. i face a Mr. Trump presidency unafraid and in fact I’m eager to help him make America great again

    me and my trusty turtle companions, we will face the coming challenges together

    our duty we will not shirk

    unlike some people you just know are gonna be big fat shirky shirkers (not naming anyone)

    happyfeet (831175)

  200. Ted should just announce his VP and wrap this thing up.

    Is that how they do it in Canada?

    ropelight (20b273)

  201. “Since its 1980 inception, the winner of the South Carolina primary has always become the eventual Republican National Convention nominee for that fall’s general election,[3] with one exception, the 2012 primary, in which eventual Republican nominee Mitt Romney finished second, behind winner Newt Gingrich (who would go on to suspend his campaign before that summer’s convention began).”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Carolina_primary

    SOUTH CAROLINA: RCP Average

    Trump 36.0
    Cruz 19.7
    Rubio 12.7
    Bush 10.0
    Carson 8.7
    Christie 2.3

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/sc/south_carolina_republican_presidential_primary-4151.html

    sound awake (6ad1ec)

  202. This election is getting interesting on both sides. I think the electorate it getting interested, too. I don’t think the socialist Bernie or the snarky Trump will prevail in the long run, but they could given the mood or the electorate. Either way, I hope Washington gets the message.

    DRJ (15874d)

  203. 🙂 feet…. You don’t know what you don’t know about Mr. Trump just as well as you dont know that I am MRS. JRT….

    The man is nothing more than a lucky and Blessed by God real estate owner. He has no legislative experience and cannot nor will he ever repeal any of Barrack Obama’s mass destruction by executive order. Much as King’s do when they reign.

    Do your selves a favor. Get Teds Book or download it on audible. Trump has a big mouth but that’s about it when it comes to DC. Only Ted Cruz is Mr. Smith Goes to Washington… watch the movie…. Ted Cruz in action.

    JRT (bc7456)

  204. I have a feeling South Carolina isn’t in it for city slicker Trump, just as they weren’t buying his all talk no action in Iowa….. Cruz will easily cruise through SC…

    JRT (bc7456)

  205. i will endeavour not to address you improperly in the future i promise

    i like Mr. Trump cause of he’s a repudiation of so so so many people and institutions who bedevil our poor country

    Mr. Cruz has his virtues, but he’s just so narrow in his appeal

    happyfeet (831175)

  206. Thirty-four percent can never make a nominee, and there is no two-way race that Trump can win in the GOP.

    I’m not sure about that. If the choice is Cruz-Trump, the Kasich or Bush voter might flip a coin. They both look like horrors to John Q Milqetoast.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  207. Traitor Ryan might have to run as a democrat next election

    I would be careful with any saws, way out there on that branch.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  208. “Race Goes to South Carolina, With No Clear Republican Threat to Trump”

    COLUMBIA, S.C. — With Donald J. Trump’s decisive victory in New Hampshire and no strong runner-up among a pack of also-rans, the Republican race barreled into South Carolina on Wednesday shadowed by a question: whether any alternative candidate can gain enough support to threaten Mr. Trump’s drive to the nomination.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/10/us/politics/south-carolina-primary.html

    sound awake (6ad1ec)

  209. I’m to the point I don’t give a tinker’s damn if Washington gets the message or not. I want the Washington political elite of both parties (and the damn media jackasses) to get an eviction notice and take it on the lam with the hot breath of retribution burning the back of their scrawny pencil necks.

    I’d love to see the top 10,000 crooks and liars locked up, maybe in GITMO. Stripped of all their ill gotten loot and consigned to hard physical labor for 25 years without possibility of parole.

    That’s my message to Washington and it starts with: For the time being, You have the right to remain silent…

    ropelight (20b273)

  210. Except Romney wouldn’t have anything to say about the border

    Why? He was quite clear about enforcing immigration law in 2012 and the eGOP was wringing their hands over it.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  211. Romney or Trump the theme would be remarkably similar: “I’m more competent than her”.

    Except Trump would be lying.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  212. “Donald Trump in Driver’s Seat on Way to Presidential Nomination”

    6:44 AM, Feb 10, 2016 | By Fred Barnes

    Have they fired him yet?

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  213. SOUTH CAROLINA: RCP Average

    Two weeks old

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  214. “Race Goes to South Carolina, With No Clear Republican Threat to Trump”

    Vulcans write about Klingon politics.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  215. “Trump and Sanders win: We are witnessing a full scale revolt, America”

    Douglas Schoen

    By Douglas E. Schoen Published February 09, 2016 FoxNews.com

    We are seeing a full scale rejection of the political establishment. This is a threat that we did not take seriously enough over the past few years, as evidenced by the fact that most rejected Trump as a clown and a joke. His ideas on illegal immigration and placing a temporary ban on Muslims ruffled our national feathers even though a majority of Republican primary voters agreed with him. That’s how out of touch our political class has become.

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/02/09/trump-and-sanders-win-in-nh-trump-and-sanders-win-are-witnessing-full-scale-revolt-america.html?intcmp=hpbt2

    sound awake (6ad1ec)

  216. New Hampshire is to America what cucumbers are to grits. But let’s all panic, anyway.

    nk (dbc370)

  217. it’s still on my list of states left to explore

    happyfeet (831175)

  218. With the emphasis on “left”

    Milhouse (87c499)

  219. “Donald Trump built a juggernaut and had the media pay for it”

    By Charles Hurt – – Tuesday, February 9, 2016

    Why does the mainstream media heap such scorn and disbelief on Donald Trump over his promise to build a great wall along the border with Mexico — and make Mexico pay for it? After all, Donald Trump has built a winning presidential campaign — and made the media pay for it.

    Mr. Trump’s second place finish in Iowa gave respite to the legions of media pundits and establishment flunkies who suffer the worst forms of Donald Trump Derangement Syndrome. They braced for a huge blow-out win in the Corn State. When it didn’t happen, it was like an executioner’s gun jamming. First they flinched, then they blinked a few times and then got up and ran like their hair was on fire.

    Ever since, of course, they have been gloating and crowing — from a safe distance — that Donald Trump failed. King Midas had finally touched something and turned it into silver, instead of gold.

    This, to be sure, is every bit as delusional as the derangement syndrome that has captivated their sanity for six months now. What Donald Trump pulled off in Iowa was nothing short of miraculous.

    What is so amazing about Mr. Trump’s blowout in the nation’s first primary in the Granite State is not just the 2-to-1 win over the next-nearest competitor, but his performance among every demographic group on every single issue.

    Among women, middle-aged voters, the elderly, the educated — all people the experts warned would flee from Donald Trump — Mr. Trump managed to win. And he won on every major issue, including the economy, foreign policy and immigration.

    Perhaps the sweetest thing out of New Hampshire is how the media will be forced to spin the results. They will, of course, try to minimize Mr. Trump’s thumping.

    Among women, middle-aged voters, the elderly, the educated — all people the experts warned would flee from Donald Trump — Mr. Trump managed to win. And he won on every major issue, including the economy, foreign policy and immigration.

    Perhaps the sweetest thing out of New Hampshire is how the media will be forced to spin the results. They will, of course, try to minimize Mr. Trump’s thumping.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/9/charles-hurt-trump-built-a-juggernaut-and-had-the-/

    sound awake (6ad1ec)

  220. Democrats have only one way to win the White House and it requires GOP cooperation: nominate an ineligible candidate, a candidate the Dems and their media subsidiaries can savage as constitutionally precluded from the presidency. Win by default.

    Like it or not, agree or not, ignore it at your peril. Politics ain’t beanbag and outside of another political assassination, disqualification is the only real option.

    (Slow Joe ain’t an option, neither is Bloomberg. Both of ’em – too little too late.)

    ropelight (20b273)

  221. I know that Doug Schoen is right at the top bottom of the list of pundits I read for a valuable take on any issue

    Colonel Haiku (0490b7)

  222. I’m not a big Beck fan but since he came out for Cruz I can appreciate his intelligence over lets say Sarah Palin and her perfect made for each other candidate Trump.

    So, I just heard that the media has tons of anti Trump material that they are holding to unleash once he gets the nomination against Hillary. Supposedly damaging as all to Trump…. But they don’t want to air it now because they know they want him to be the nominee against Hillary and not Cruz which they have nothing on.

    Also, they released the amount of money each candidate spent on each vote they received. Bush Rubio and Christy were over 1,800 a vote…. Cruz was $18.00 a vote. Trump was low also.

    Just saying, if Trump gets the nominee it is going to be an all out circus from the media. The media wants a moderate candidate. Trump will have to play that game to get his way. And he is the best wheeler dealer there is.

    JRT (bc7456)

  223. Democrats have only one way to win the White House and it requires GOP cooperation: nominate an ineligible candidate, a candidate the Dems and their media subsidiaries can savage as constitutionally precluded from the presidency. Win by default.

    How many times must you be informed that the eligibility clause is not justiciable? It wouldn’t matter if Rs nominated a 34-year-old from Zimbabwe; s/he would remain in the race, and if s/he got the votes of a majority of Electors s/he would become president.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  224. sorry feet, but warm cucumbers Persian or not don’t sound too appetizing

    grits are usually best warm…. are they cold?

    JRT (bc7456)

  225. nonono

    the cucumbers are cold

    just put on top to serve

    happyfeet (831175)

  226. 217…….they already did that with BO and got away with it. No candidate running would be ineligible………….BUT Hillary being investigated should be considered ineligible but they will use their own issues and lies along with their lapdog media to try and bet away with anything…. then there will be a revolution in this country.

    JRT (bc7456)

  227. yes yes the grits are actually more on hot than warm side cause they have to retain heat all through til you’re done cause the texture changes so much as they cool

    happyfeet (831175)

  228. but the grits are warm? so they get warm on top of the warm grain.

    JRT (bc7456)

  229. oh

    well a little i guess

    it’s a mixed up muddled up shook up whirl except for lola, you see

    happyfeet (831175)

  230. And there I was concerned that ham instead of bacon, sidemeat or jowls might be seen as effete.

    nk (dbc370)

  231. Milhouse (87c499) — 2/10/2016 @ 8:44 am

    It wouldn’t matter if Rs nominated a 34-year-old from Zimbabwe; s/he would remain in the race, and if s/he got the votes of a majority of Electors s/he would become president.

    When the votes are counted in Congress, somebody could object, and it would be decided (peobably separately) by a majority vote of the House and the Senate.

    Sammy Finkelman (1a8d7e)

  232. The ONLY people STUPID enough to think Cruz isn’t a natural born citizen are the Trump idolators. Nobody else is that STUPID and gullible.

    John Hitchcock (6dce1b)

  233. #221, Milhouse, a careful reading of my comment reveals no recourse to any officially constituted decision maker. Once the Dems and their presstitutes set about their dirty work on either Cruz or Rubio low-information voters won’t know if either one is eligible or not.

    For example: If Cruz is eligible because one of his parents was an American citizen, then Rubio is ineligible because neither one of his parents was a citizen at the time of his birth.

    Conversely: If Rubio is eligible because he was born in the US, then Cruz is ineligible because he was born in Canada.

    Etc, etc, etc. and on and on till no one is sure if either one of them is eligible for a Green Card.

    ropelight (20b273)

  234. Sicko(mg) is on fire! Tough luck GOPe!

    DNF (755a85)

  235. Lately this blog reminds me more of The New York Daily News, or the Huffington Post. Instead of thoughtful, articulate analysis, we get “people are stupid”. If I wanted that, I’d go read a liberal rag.

    Bruce (baf98b)

  236. @John Hitchcock. Gullible maybe, not stupid unless you think soembody has to be stupid to be this gullible.

    A Blackstone quote I saw indicates that who fits the term “natural born” can change.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  237. Tune in to Rush. He’s right on target. The GOPe has only themselves to blame. Had they even made an effort to keep their campaign promises, the current Trump coalition would have been the GOPe coalition.

    But the arrogant asses wouldn’t keep faith with the conservative base, and now the base has abandoned the party establishment. And the party bosses did it to themselves.

    ropelight (20b273)

  238. 228….I live in the same city Cruz’s mother was born. Here in the first state of the US. Her parents may have even been born in the US but her grandparent came through Ellis Island. Now, compare that to Trumps Mother who was born in Scotland…. So was Trump born to a US citizen ??? Supposedly, the MSM has tons of stuff on Trump that they are waiting to use when and if he goes up against their favorite politician Hillary

    JRT (bc7456)

  239. Hard to listen to Rush as he is so in the can for Trump. He likes those invites and to be wined and dined and golf outings at Malargo FL that Trump runs. Much like the Islands that slick Willy attends with the prostitutes.

    JRT (bc7456)

  240. Considering #234, you might be on to something, Hitchcock.

    ropelight (20b273)

  241. Bruce, Who is to say that your style of posting your opinion is what all should aspire to be. Come on? I bet you think that you created yourself too…. Get off of your ego and come down to earth. Try not to put yourself/neediness first, in front of others.

    JRT (bc7456)

  242. I am a golfer and watched Rush the Golf show… Hank Hannity…. where he gives celebrities lessons…. Charles Barkley was the best…. Ray Ramono was good. Well, Rush always bragged about how much Trump invites him to his resorts…..

    JRT (bc7456)

  243. 227. Sometimes a break in politics with food is a good thing. Brings us all back to life. Life should not be about politics or being plugged into a device 24/7. Food can be a good distraction.

    JRT (bc7456)

  244. Patterico

    One time I was on a thread at the right scoop… not promoting them at all but the thread was a religious thread and Walid shoebat posted a few comments on the thread. He was quite witty and very quick tongued. He really didn’t speak so kindly but was there mostly to correct any poster that was off the mark from his mind. But the best was when he called one of the posters who I grew to dislike, a witch. It was the funniest thing I had ever read on a political comment site.

    Yes, it was Shoebat as the moderator kept having to make excuses and correct those that weren’t being as hospitable as they liked.

    JRT (bc7456)

  245. If you’re really worried about Trump being the only candidate who could be beaten by the hildabeast, you should be hunting for Rubio, Bush, Kasich, Fiorina, and Carson people, to convince them their candidate should drop out for the good of the country.

    Good luck finding them. Pretty rare. Not herd animials that you can just do the roundup.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  246. Trump’s base is the entire democrat party. Look at the numbers voting in the primaries for the democrats… Like 2,000 total compared the millions voting for the republican candidates….MOST democrats are somehow voting for Trump in the primaries.

    JRT (bc7456)

  247. the millions voting for the republican candidates

    Dude. There might be one million voters in New Hampshire maybe. Maybe just. I strongly doubt it, but maybe.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  248. Oh, ropelight, if one of those Canadians doesn’t get you, then you’re fearful that one of those “lipstick lesbians” will, huh? (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  249. Know for certain they aren’t all voting republican.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  250. Hey how come ropelight gets a lipstick lesbian? That’s not fair. I’m a Trump supporter too. Throw me a bone here.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  251. Once the Dems and their presstitutes set about their dirty work on either Cruz or Rubio low-information voters won’t know if either one is eligible or not.

    Why would they care?

    Milhouse (87c499)

  252. papertiger, you made a clever play on words, there, bud.
    Actually, you don’t come across as someone who fears Canadians or “lipstick lesbians.” Heck, you don’t even believe that George H.W. Bush conspired with the Hinckleys to have Reagan assassinated.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)


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