Trump: “Absolutely” I Would Force Muslims to Register in a Database
Nothing says “presidential material” like a proposal to force members of a particular religion to register in a database:
Donald J. Trump, who earlier in the week said he was open to requiring Muslims in the United States to register in a database, said on Thursday night that he “would certainly implement that — absolutely.”
Mr. Trump was asked about the issue by an NBC News reporter and pressed on whether all Muslims in the country would be forced to register. “They have to be,” he said. “They have to be.’’
When asked how a system of registering Muslims would be carried out — whether, for instance, mosques would be where people could register — Mr. Trump said: “Different places. You sign up at different places. But it’s all about management. Our country has no management.’’
Asked later, as he signed autographs, how such a database would be different from Jews having to register in Nazi Germany, Mr. Trump repeatedly said, “You tell me,” until he stopped responding to the question.
Is it OK to make the Hitler comparisons yet? Tell you what: I’ll hold off for now, and simply (again) declare this man a hopeless buffoon.
But I’m starting to lose patience with his supporters, not one of whom is likely to be disturbed by this.
UPDATE: The video is here. Trump seems to be talking about immigrants. But that’s not what he was asked. Let’s see whether he wants to walk it back.
UPDATE x2:
Let the media stampede to confront other candidates with Trump's comments begin! Candidates had better hit back hard on this cynical tactic.
— Patterico (@Patterico) November 20, 2015
I predict he walks this back today and blames it on the media.
Patterico (c9faae) — 11/20/2015 @ 6:53 amIt’s now a race to confront Ted Cruz and other Republicans to get them to denounce Trump. I don’t think any of them have a responsibility to do so, but they need to be more aggressive with the media when they pull this stunt. Because this easily has the chance to put candidates on the defensive if they don’t hit back hard, and the media knows it.
Patterico (c9faae) — 11/20/2015 @ 7:00 amI consider the source. When has the New York Times ever passed up a cheap shot, and an out of context gotcha, while trying to kneecap a Republican front runner?
papertiger (c2d6da) — 11/20/2015 @ 7:04 amyes yes this smells like a media propaganda slut trying to make Mr. Trump into a pinata for to be beaten with the sticks of hate
happyfeet (831175) — 11/20/2015 @ 7:06 amBesides that in my mind registering Muslims and registering communists are about the same thing.
Islam isn’t a religion, it’s a form of government hostile to all other forms of government.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 11/20/2015 @ 7:07 amforgive them Mr. Trump for they know not what they do
happyfeet (831175) — 11/20/2015 @ 7:11 amI don’t understand why you object to keeping track of people we let into the country from the middle east, if we do accept them. did you object to the way he said it? What am I missing?
MD in Philly (not in Philly, and out and about) (deca84) — 11/20/2015 @ 7:12 amSorry
MD in Philly (not in Philly, and out and about) (deca84) — 11/20/2015 @ 7:13 amMy mistake
I see he was talking about people already here.
He was asked about all Muslims in the country, not new immigrants.
I imagine his walk back will claim he was confusing the two.
Patterico (c9faae) — 11/20/2015 @ 7:14 amWe can send all the Muslims to the internment camps after we’re done with the Mexicans. And then we can send all the Democrats there when we’re done with the Muslims.
TRUMPTRUPM (7404b7) — 11/20/2015 @ 7:18 amSupporting Trump for President is more like supporting P.T. Barnum. Trump makes even
Bar Sinister (c62a89) — 11/20/2015 @ 7:19 amoil salesmen appear acceptable.
So these “journalists” who are presumably educated don’t know the Jews in Germany were registered by Nazi’s for extermination but moslems here should be registered to stop them from exterminating us? These people still see moslems as just another religion like Mormons. They are not.
How would such a database be different from citizens having to register to vote? They see a problem because it’s about the moslems and their religion. But if their religion didn’t command them to convert or kill everyone there would be no problem now would there?
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27) — 11/20/2015 @ 7:22 amWhat a maroon! What an ignoranamous!
nk (dbc370) — 11/20/2015 @ 7:23 amUPDATE: The video is here. Trump seems to be talking about immigrants. But that’s not what he was asked. Let’s see whether he wants to walk it back.
Patterico (86c8ed) — 11/20/2015 @ 7:26 amNo, don’t put current citizens in a database.
For new immigrants, absolutely.
And their polygraphed responses to some basic questions like “do you support those who kill Americans in the name of Islam?”
Actually, so we’re not discriminating by religion, store polygraphed responses to that question for all immigrants.
asdf (65cace) — 11/20/2015 @ 7:29 amUPDATE x2:
Patterico (86c8ed) — 11/20/2015 @ 7:29 amImmigrants and visitors, including green cards, were once supposed to report their current address every year, whether they had moved or not, and also report any mid-year change of address when it happened. That has not been enforced, that I know of, for at least forty years.
nk (dbc370) — 11/20/2015 @ 7:31 amDon’t worry Trump haters, the John Kasich society has 2.5 million to take Trump down.
mg (31009b) — 11/20/2015 @ 7:46 amPriceless.
I’m more disturbed with how team republican continues to spit in the face of conservatives. Wait until we spit back.
mg (31009b) — 11/20/2015 @ 7:50 amCruz/West
Well, I still say the proper response is for the other candidates to show they take the security issue posed by “Islamists” seriously and will do something different than what is being done, not just give lip service to people’s concerns.
I think if an emphasis was made on doing something about Imams who are inciting violence and radicalizing people here it would be both reasonable and politically viable. Zuddhi Jassar has long fought CAIR and has seen them as the enemy of “non-Islamist Islam”. I would think some interaction with the few like him would be of great help.
Yes, I know some think “moderate Islam” is an oxymoron, and if one examines their writings there is ample evidence for that, but we know we won’t get anywhere trying to say all Muslims should be under watch until deported (and I would not support that myself anyway);
but I would think something could be done about things like state subsidy of charter schools that are Islamist and mosques which preach violent jihad.
We know there is a difference between free speech and inciting a riot, there ought to be a way to differentiate between free speech and inciting terrorism.
It would give reason for Muslims to declare their allegiance. To the degree some want to live here under the freedom in the US, they should recognize it is to their own benefit to disown, rather than enable, violent jihadist elements.
MD in Philly (not in Philly at the moment) (deca84) — 11/20/2015 @ 7:51 amYou’re right, Patterico. The Trumpsters don’t give a ratattouille about the Constitution or Eminent Domain or Single Payer or higher taxes on the job producers or a long list of other things Conservatives and Libertarians should care about. They have their loud-mouth ignoramus and they’re going to keep their loud-mouth ignoramus. It disgusts me. One narcissistic Democrat wasn’t enough, they want to elect another narcissistic Democrat.
John Hitchcock (8dac68) — 11/20/2015 @ 8:02 amIt’s consistent with his anti-Mexican position. If you deport Juan, you deport Amal.
nk (dbc370) — 11/20/2015 @ 8:05 amSo he’s not talking about ALL Muslims, just new immigrants which already seems to be the law.
Since this is already law I don’t see how this is the same as Nazis registering Jews.
Jihadists want the violent overthrow of our government and forced conversion of infidels to Islam. Jews were non-violent.
Tanny O'Haley (c674c7) — 11/20/2015 @ 8:10 amCome on already, MD in Philly. How many times do we need to explain moslems are supposed to lie about their allegiance and fake their unity with jihad. They are also supposed to enter infidel lands to defeat them. Why do you guys keep making excuses for people who have been doing the same crap for 1400 years?
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27) — 11/20/2015 @ 8:25 amSadly, even my Usenet allies fell for Trump.
Michael Ejercito (d74b61) — 11/20/2015 @ 8:33 amRemember the good old days when the media would Democratsplain “jihad” as an inner struggle with personal demons?
papertiger (c2d6da) — 11/20/2015 @ 8:38 amThe scary thing is that the Trumpsters seem to have caught the same virus so many others caught in the ’08 cycle that put an unqualified thin-skinned know-it-all in the WH. Once infected the virus seems to render its victims incapable of exercising any independent or rational judgements. Love – blind as always.
crazy (cde091) — 11/20/2015 @ 8:40 amRev.
I understand your point and acknowledged it.
Yes, the idea that lying is a good thing is a serious problem
What I am saying is give a chance for those that will cooperate in getting rid of the Islamists a chance to do it.
Yes, that would make them bad Muslims in the eyes of some, but if it makes them good Muslims in their own eyes then fine.
I suppose one could say that anti-CAIR Muslims are really Jihadists in deep cover actually working with CAIR as counter “terrorists”, but I would not assume that, though I guess one always needs to reevaluate who one can trust.
We are not going to get enough agreement to ever do something against all Muslims, and I would not want to, but doing something about everyone with violent jihadist sympathies would be viable.
MD in Philly (not in Philly, and out and about) (deca84) — 11/20/2015 @ 8:47 amHow many times do I need to say that not everyone who calls themselves Muslim is the same?
Just like you have Kennedy and Pelosi Catholics, you have “Pelosi Muslims”
I have Christian friends who grew up in Muslim countries and friends who were missionaries in N African countries for 15 plus years
MD in Philly (not in Philly, and out and about) (deca84) — 11/20/2015 @ 8:54 amI am not unaware of the problem,
But the people who call themselves Muslim are NOT monolithic,
Though I do agree that what that means in nuts and bolts action is not clear.
When asked how a system of registering Muslims would be carried out — whether, for instance, mosques would be where people could register — Mr. Trump said: “Different places. You sign up at different places. But it’s all about management. Our country has no management.’’
But aside the issue of Muslims — immigrants or not — and focus on the last two sentences of Trump’s statement. This is exactly why I can’t vote for him. Despite his rhetoric, Trump seems to fall for that pipe dream that big government can be made to run efficiently with the right management team. This was the huge blind spot of both Presidents Bush. Trump wouldn’t do jack squat to cut the size of government, he would just assume that once he got behind the wheel he could steer it straight forward. He’s delusional.
JVW (738b08) — 11/20/2015 @ 9:18 am“yes yes this smells like a media propaganda slut trying to make Mr. Trump into a pinata for to be beaten with the sticks of hate” –happyfeet
We’ve seen just how well that strategy has worked out for the media sluts in the past. I predict: another 5 point bump for Trump!
Cruz is about the only candidate who has the skill to effectively counter the inevitable questions. Trump’s past excesses have, if anything, helped Cruz. I’m expecting more of the same.
Nice comment, happy. You sure can turn a phrase.
ThOR (a52560) — 11/20/2015 @ 9:21 amIt’s not religious discrimination, but rather identification of a class based on common principles.
That is already done with class diversity policy; affirmative action; superior rights; gender equivalence; pro-choice/abortion; etc.
n.n (f0c118) — 11/20/2015 @ 9:27 amI get what Melania sees in Trump — $4 billion and high cholesterol — but I don’t understand why anybody else even likes him, let alone likes him enough to want him with his hand on the Button.
nk (dbc370) — 11/20/2015 @ 9:28 amLet me elaborate. Identification of class based on common principles or uniform behavior is legitimate. Identification of class based on exceptional or circumstantial evidence is discrimination. So, class diversity, affirmative action, superior rights, illegal immigration, gender equivalence, pro-choice/abortion, etc. are policies that establish and propagate discrimination based on illegitimate classifications of people.
n.n (f0c118) — 11/20/2015 @ 9:31 am“This was the huge blind spot of both Presidents Bush. Trump wouldn’t do jack squat to cut the size of government, he would just assume that once he got behind the wheel he could steer it straight forward. He’s delusional.” – JVW
But this is the near-universal position/pitch of the political class. It is precisely the reason that so many think having been a governorship on the resume is such a important qualification for the job – even here in these comments. If you rule out all pols of this orientation, your left with little more than politicians named Paul. And we know what a level-headed bunch they are.
Finally, the Bush problem wasn’t that they thought they could manage the nation, but, instead, that they deferred to the grifters in Congress to manage domestic policy. Bush Jr. distinguished himself as the President who refused to veto any bill placed on his desk. His attitude was “They’ve got their job to do ; I’ve got mine.” If there is something Obama is right about, it is his determination to shrink the impact of our corrupt Congress.
ThOR (a52560) — 11/20/2015 @ 9:36 amI’m torn. I despise the media AND I despise Trump.
“It’s a pity they can’t both lose.”
Kevin M (25bbee) — 11/20/2015 @ 9:41 amhttp://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/columnists/kathie-obradovich/caucus/2015/11/19/trump-privacy-rights-stronger-before-paris/76079482/
Sammy Finkelman (643dcd) — 11/20/2015 @ 9:50 amSo does Trump have any other platforms beside his illegal alien policy?
CrustyB (69f730) — 11/20/2015 @ 10:00 amHere’s the pertinent exchange:
MSNBC Reporter: Should there be a database or system that tracks Muslims in this country?
Donald Trump: There should be a lot of systems. Beyond databases. I mean, we should have a lot of systems. And today you can do it. But right now we have to have a border, we have to have strength, we have to have a wall, and we cannot let what’s happening in this country happen any longer.
MSNBC Reporter: But that’s something your White House would want to implement?
Trump: Oh, I would certainly implement that. Absolutely.
Seems pretty clear to me Trump was saying he would “certainly implement” a wall. But maybe MSNBC has mind-readers that know better. If media distortions like this continue, I may have to actually move from undecided to Trump supporter!
Andrew (e1f80c) — 11/20/2015 @ 10:13 amIs it OK to make the FDR comparisons yet? There… I fixed it for you
jack burton (ac6627) — 11/20/2015 @ 10:15 amI don’t think there actually is a “Button” any more, nk. I think the “nuclear football” is a clean set of undies for Obama. I know during my life of 64 tears if we had a “button” we should have used it several times. Matter of fact I believe all those billions spent on nuclear weapons was pocketed by the politicians, lobbyists, unions, crony capitalists and bankers. I’d be surprised if we had more than a couple dozen actual “bombs” other than those tested for show.
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27) — 11/20/2015 @ 10:34 amThat was “64 Years” but tears could work, especially with this clown in office.
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27) — 11/20/2015 @ 10:35 amHoagie–
If there were a button, I’d sure hope they don’t put it on Hillary’s nightstand.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 11/20/2015 @ 10:51 amIt’s now a race to confront Ted Cruz and other Republicans to get them to denounce Trump
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It could be too late. Cruz embraced Rand Paul in certain areas,and timing is everything, events have literally blown up in their faces. Trump could actually end up looking cleaner on the war on terror because most of the Republican field allowed Trump to run away with the idea that he could have prevented 9/11.
DRG (76b104) — 11/20/2015 @ 10:53 am20. MD in Philly (not in Philly at the moment) (deca84) — 11/20/2015 @ 7:51 am
It’s the teachers, not the students, whom you need to follow.
Of course people also have to understand this is not normative Islam. All the people doing this, almost to man or woman, are either “born again” Moslems or converts.
To do that it would help to recognoze that there are certain states, putative allies of the United States, doing that.
There is, I think, legally, and besides when it comes to immigration or citizenship, the first amendment does not apply, although the principles still remain if you want to adhere to them.
The problem with going after funding is that:
1) You need some kind of an opening to find it out. Which either means an informant or something or collecting of information in general.
2. You need, at least at the start, to find out what’s going in mosques to learn what sources of funding are bad.
Sammy Finkelman (643dcd) — 11/20/2015 @ 11:05 amMD:
It’s a very tricky area, because of the first amendment
Unfortunately for your argument, the law specifies the precise difference: imminence. And that doesn’t apply to the sort of preaching you’re rightly concerned about here. Unfortunately such preaching is almost always squarely protected by the first amendment. That means not only that we can’t ban it outright, but also that we can’t use it to deprive anyone of a generally available government benefit (e.g. Giuliani couldn’t remove NYC’s subsidy to the Brooklyn Museum just because he didn’t like an exhibit there).
Milhouse (8489b1) — 11/20/2015 @ 11:08 amThe founders of the USA, the people who adopted the first amendment, disagreed. They explicitly said that the freedom of religion was to include the Jew, the Hindoo, and the Mahometan, as well as every variety of infidel.
Milhouse (8489b1) — 11/20/2015 @ 11:10 amNo, it isn’t. Nobody is forced to register their race, gender identity, Hispanic status, disability, etc. Whenever I have been asked such questions on any form, there was an option to decline to answer.
Milhouse (8489b1) — 11/20/2015 @ 11:15 amTrump has tweeted that he didn’t say what the reporter says he did.
Gerald A (949d7d) — 11/20/2015 @ 11:17 amNo, it isn’t. Experience in running a government is essential precisely because governments are not like anything else. They are very much not like businesses, and anyone trying to run one like a business will fail. But more importantly, those wanting a president to have experience running a government are not expecting that this will enable them to “steer it straight forward”, but merely that it will enable them to do something without first spending a year learning how the controls work. We want a president who knows that government can’t run efficiently no matter who is in charge, and will therefore act to cut its size; and we want one who can start on that job from his first day in office, not a year later. What we don’t want is a Trump (or a Bush) who assumes that now that the right people are in charge government no longer needs to be cut, because it’s now become a force for good.
Milhouse (8489b1) — 11/20/2015 @ 11:21 amOn the contrary, Trum said he would “certainly implement that”, and the most obvious referent of “that” is the last thing the reporter asked him, i.e. a database of Moslems.
His tweet doesn’t say that. It says “I didn’t suggest a database — a reporter did”, which is true and nobody claimed otherwise; but he agreed with the suggestion.
Milhouse (8489b1) — 11/20/2015 @ 11:30 amTrump about fighting ISIS, November 10, 2015:
http://time.com/4107636/transcript-read-the-full-text-of-the-fourth-republican-debate-in-milwaukee/
Trump ad, New Hampshire circa November 18:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/11/18/new_trump_ad_i_will_quickly_and_decisively_bomb_the_hell_out_of_isis.html
Note: Trump said:
I got to know him very well because we were both on 60 Minutes, we were stablemates, and we did very well that night.
As everybody knows, 60 Minutes does not do live interviews.
Why exactly would Trump get to know Putin very well just because both interviews were aired on the same show? What, does CBS connect its interview subjects for publicity reasons? And why would tehy be stablemates?
Sammy Finkelman (643dcd) — 11/20/2015 @ 11:34 amCarly Fiorina mistakenly thought Trump must ahve been ina green room with Putin, and she claimed taht she had met Putin but not ina green room situation, but that’s what she said on the Tonight Show. (they were both giving a speech in Beijing in 2001)
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/carly-fiorina-met-putin-green-room-zinging-trump/story?id=35121158
Sammy Finkelman (643dcd) — 11/20/2015 @ 11:38 amThis was what Carly Fiorona said in the debate:
It looks like it really be desrbed as either, unless she had another meeting besides that one in Beijing.
Meanwhile. Marco Rubio did not claim to have met Putin at all:
Sammy Finkelman (643dcd) — 11/20/2015 @ 11:43 amregister guns not muslims
denny (729b80) — 11/20/2015 @ 11:44 amThat is not what Trump said.
Like every other Friday we fall into the gotcha trap by the Left.
Rodney Ling's Spirit (ab8c0d) — 11/20/2015 @ 11:47 amIf you’re willing to register guns, then why not Moslems? Both are equally protected by the constitution, after all.
Milhouse (8489b1) — 11/20/2015 @ 11:47 amYes, it is. Read the transcript.
Milhouse (8489b1) — 11/20/2015 @ 11:48 amOh thank gawd, he tweeted something!
DRG (76b104) — 11/20/2015 @ 11:49 amAnd I think a database of “hi-pot” terrorists is a great thing. I think we already have it by the way. Problem is we do nothing with it like the Tsarnaev boys.
Plus sadly, it ain’t Christians doing this stuff so some common sense would be nice. Muslim + Radical Leanings = Hi Pot Terrorist = Arrest for even dumping a butt on the floor.
Rodney Ling's Spirit (ab8c0d) — 11/20/2015 @ 11:49 am#53 Trump at no point stated he want a Muslim Only Database.
I heard the entire exchange. That was gotcha journalism which Trump should be smart enough to avoid.
Like the guy calling Obama a Muslim. Same crap.
Rodney Ling's Spirit (ab8c0d) — 11/20/2015 @ 11:51 amThe reporter asked” “Should there be a database or system that tracks Muslims in this country?”, and when he didn’t answer it the first time the reporter followed up: “But that’s something your White House would want to implement?”, and this time he answered: “Oh, I would certainly implement that. Absolutely.” So yes, he did state exactly that. Denying it won’t change the fact.
Milhouse (8489b1) — 11/20/2015 @ 11:59 amJVW – Despite his rhetoric, Trump seems to fall for that pipe dream that big government can be made to run efficiently with the right management team.
Conservatarians fall for the pipe dream that we can admit large numbers of Muslims and other groups who are indifferent/hostile to our culture without resorting to authoritarianism to control the inevitable chaos. It’s tough to be more dangerous than a big government leftist, but “conservative” blank slate ideologues rise to the challenge.
“We need muslims in USA for great diversity
but they’re scary so we need to spy on them
but we mustn’t profile so we have to spy on
everyone.” – Duck
I’ve linked a few times to a story discussing an FBI counter-terrorism expert who strongly implies the U.S. government mass-records domestic phone calls. No one ever responds. When I see “conservatives” bleat on about small government while quietly accepting the growth of the surveillance state, I conclude they are confused about what “small government” means.
scrutineer (b7d257) — 11/20/2015 @ 12:02 pmThe State Department can deny visas to anybody for any reason or for no reason.
nk (dbc370) — 11/20/2015 @ 12:09 pmOnce in the United States, we can require registration of all visitors and immigrants.
But, but, but (that’s three buts), not even the federal government can invidiously (that means for reasons the Supreme Court does not like and religion is one of them) discriminate against aliens.
#57 To the facts, he did not answer as you point out. Then he went on about building a wall and talking illegal immigration. To which he then went on to reaffirm his position on the need to stop illegals.
Much ado about gotcha journalism.
Q: “How often do you beat your wife?”
A: “Violence against all people must be stopped”
Q: So you admit that beating your wife routinely is bad?”
A: ” Yes, I totally support stopping violence.”
Rodney Ling's Spirit (ab8c0d) — 11/20/2015 @ 12:12 pm#57 You can wish it Milhouse but that is not what he stated in his own words. That is what you want to believe based on a 40 second audio/video clip.
When he refers to “that” he is clearly referring to his OWN WORDS none of which talk to (nor has he ever proposed) a Muzzy database.
This idea of a Muzzy Database is a 100% invention in the Left, a False Strawman, introduced to lie about Republicans.
Sorry but you are wayyyyyy off base.
Now if he comes out later and says otherwise then you have no point beyond wording f*cking — like with Ben Carson and Politico.
Rodney Ling's Spirit (ab8c0d) — 11/20/2015 @ 12:17 pmAnd what is most funny is Hillary and Obama can say repeatedly a video did it in spite of the evidence that 1 (if not both) knew it to be a lie, yet the Left insists they told the truth. That there was “confusion” in the data which there was n0t since the Intelligence was clear from the very first second.
The Left does not say say Obama and Hillary mis-spoke but they affirm the 2 actually told the truth even with the documented mendacity of the claim.
Tiring stupidity with one side having a ridiculous standard to be uber precise with everything while the Left can flat out lie and be defended by the Left and the Press.
Rodney Ling's Spirit (ab8c0d) — 11/20/2015 @ 12:21 pmThat’s very convenient for terrorists whose religion is their state like ISIS- Islamic State In Iraq. So because their religion happens to be their government they get a pass on vetting that any other group not as slick, cunning and dangerous would have to go through? Anybody who claims Americans aren’t A-holes is a dumbass. If we don’t have either the wisdom or the courage to recognize a government cloaked in a barbaric “religion” and the threat it poses as such we deserve the end we will inevitably come to.
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27) — 11/20/2015 @ 12:25 pmYou go to the general election with the media that you have, not the one that you wish you had.
DRG (76b104) — 11/20/2015 @ 12:28 pmContinue believing they are a religion:
California Middle School Makes Kids Sing About Spreading Islam
by Alex Griswold | 11:05 am, November 20th, 2015 VIDEO
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Parents in Orange County are outraged after seventh-graders were asked to sing a song about spreading Islam in class.
A social studies teacher at Spring View Middle School gave students an ode to Islam to sing, set to the tune of Rachel Platten‘s “Fight Song.” But instead, the chorus goes:
This is their fight song
Spread Islam now song
Prove that they’re right song
Other parts of the song declares that they “don’t really care if no Jews or [Christians] believe,” and “Islam… Allah’s on the way.”
Parents were upset, to say the least. “I believe that by singing this song, the children feel comfortable believing that maybe Allah is the only god, and maybe that they should start following him,” one parent told CBS Los Angeles. “And that I’m not OK with.”
Islam-song
Even Islamic organizations like CAIR aren’t happy with the song, especially the lyrics “they might only have one god, but they can make an explosion.”
“Our reaction was that obviously the teacher could have had a better choice of words,” spokesman Ojaala Ahmad said.
Watch above, via CBS Los Angeles.
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27) — 11/20/2015 @ 12:33 pmI dunno if you guys want to live and die by Trump’s tweet deck. I’m sure Putin would be happy with that though. Certain bloggers are hanging everything on that one tweet like it’s a shibboleth.
The US military still considers Russia a threat but Trump and his super fans know better.
Trump and Putin–Fire Up Power Rangers! (At least Putin would look some what presentable in the tights.)
DRG (76b104) — 11/20/2015 @ 12:36 pmI should have written
But, but, but (that’s three buts), once they’re in the United States, not even the federal government can invidiously (that means for reasons the Supreme Court does not like and religion is one of them) discriminate against aliens.
to be perfectly clear.
Vetting would be before we let them in, in the first place.
nk (dbc370) — 11/20/2015 @ 12:36 pmAnd you’re not going to register U.S. citizens who have not committed any crimes unless it’s WWII, you’re FDR, and you’ve packed the Supreme Court.
So I’m inclined to agree with the commenters who argue that not even Trump would be that stupid to say something like that.
nk (dbc370) — 11/20/2015 @ 12:42 pmI still don’t understand people who think tweets and facebook somehow tells you much about the Republican primary electorate, it’s almost worse than supposed opinion polling. Sure you can bully everyone who doesn’t think exactly like you off a blog, you can block them on twitter and you can unfriend them on facebook –the only thing that means is that you do not have significantly persuasive ideas to support your candidate.
They will be *shocked* when Trump hands Hillary an electoral college landslide.
DRG (76b104) — 11/20/2015 @ 12:53 pmI can’t get the video to play, so I’m unsure as to what he really said, or the situation. For example, if it was a noisy, confused atmosphere (such as a crowd) I’d be inclined to give more credit to any claims the question was misheard or misunderstood. If it was a prepared statement, I wouldn’t. I’d also be inclined to keep my eye out for a Carson-style media slur job (I’m referring to the MSM hit job on Carson a while back).
I’m not a Trump supporter, and I do consider Muslims to be a security risk, but I’d be against requiring citizens to register. If that’s what he meant, I oppose it, strongly.
As for requiring legal aliens (any non citizens in the USA) to register, I’ve got no problem at all with that. In fact, it’s long been done. My parents were green card holding immigrants, and had to keep INS appraised of their address. They were also subject to deportation if they committed a crime. They also had to notify the IRS (basically ask permission) every time they left the country (such as for vacations).
Given the clear risk some Muslim immigrants pose, I think requiring them to register (such as their address, and keep it current) is a good idea. In fact, it’s a good idea for all immigrants IMHO. In fact, it’s such a good and sensible idea that it’s already the law, and has been for decades; non citizens need to inform INS within 10 days of an address change, and failure to do so can result in deportation.
Arizona CJ (331a26) — 11/20/2015 @ 12:54 pmKasich looks as if he escaped from a mental hospital, wandering around waiting for nurse Ratchet.
mg (31009b) — 11/20/2015 @ 1:06 pmTrump will rise in the voters eye after this.
mg (31009b) — 11/20/2015 @ 1:08 pmGlad I grew 2 extra rows of popcorn this year.
It’s cute how some people are now against thoughtless stampedes, after the Trump stampede happened.
The running of the bulls must be preserved against the Rubio Express1!!
DRG (76b104) — 11/20/2015 @ 1:29 pmDrive-Bys Lie and Claim Donald Trump Said Register All Muslim
Apparently, Trump changed the subject to illegal immigration, catching the journalist or perhaps JournoList off guard, but it was reported to promote the prevailing narrative.
As for registering people: class diversity, affirmative action, gender preference, selective exclusion (“=”), etc.
n.n (f0c118) — 11/20/2015 @ 1:33 pmAs if we don’t already keep data bases on gunowners, veterans, social security recipients, 18 yr old males…..shall I go on?
Angelo (10f767) — 11/20/2015 @ 1:41 pmAnd Zimmerman seemed to be a racist who volunteered the the information that Trayvon Martin was black. The LHMFM edited the tape, so you wouldn’t know the dispatcher asked first if Zimmerman could ID the suspect by race and/or ethnicity.
The same thing is happening here. The edited version makes it look like Trump was talking about implementing a database of Muslims. When Trump was talking about “implementing” a wall and tracking illegal immigrants.
I realize you hate Trump. But you sort of lose your mind when the subject comes up and react exactly how the LHMFM hopes you react to their little tricks. Every time.
If Cruz becomes the front runner the LHMFM is going to do the exact same thing to him as they’re doing to Trump. Attributing comments to Cruz that he didn’t make, and they’ll come up with the video evidence to back it up. It will be front page news, or at the top of the hour. For a news cycle or two. Then we’ll see retractions on page A36 of the NYT or whatever. Or, stand by for the anonymously sourced rumors of marital affairs. Like the WaPo tried to torpedo McCain (Gawd I hate sticking up for McCain).
Are you going to give Cruz some benefit of the doubt then that you’re not giving to Trump now? Why? It’s the same LHMFM.
Steve57 (f9c99b) — 11/20/2015 @ 1:49 pm100 grapes in a bag
mg (31009b) — 11/20/2015 @ 1:50 pm2 are poison and will kill you
go ahead eat them
Patterico – Radical leftists aren’t big into understanding the arguments of their opponents; they prefer mocking them.
Trump’s supporters are celebrity-obsessed retards. Also he’s a Nazi.
Patterico – I’m starting to lose patience with his supporters.
You’ve never displayed any such patience. Patience entails making some effort to understand why people disagree with you. If you can’t bring yourself to discuss immigration while grappling with his horrific ascent to the top of the polls, then you’re not even trying.
scrutineer (b7d257) — 11/20/2015 @ 2:09 pmAnd, the result is that Trump’s numbers go up again, contempt for presstitutes hits another all-time high, and people who should know better have egg on their faces for falling for another media manufactured gotcha scam.
Trump’s detractors big and small, including the GOPe, abandoned all reason and willingly climbed on the bandwagon quick to practice the politics of personal destruction. You’d think they’d know better.
ropelight (339f16) — 11/20/2015 @ 2:25 pmThis could be the best of times – when both parties cease to exist.
mg (31009b) — 11/20/2015 @ 2:49 pmmg, why do you hate grapes, bigot
Mitch (341ca0) — 11/20/2015 @ 3:03 pm/sarc
Because I’m an a-hole, Mitch.
mg (31009b) — 11/20/2015 @ 3:10 pmno/sarc
Nothing like liberals manipulating video footage and republicans believing it.
mg (31009b) — 11/20/2015 @ 4:00 pmCruz/West
eff the rest
And a Patriot fan.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 11/20/2015 @ 4:02 pmThe video is linked in the post. The part where he talks about implementing the database is not edited. You have asserted that I sort of lost my mind, and gave as proof a non-existent editing of a tape. Guess what? Your argument does not convince me. Suggestion: try one with correct facts rather than false ones.
Patterico (86c8ed) — 11/20/2015 @ 5:19 pmI predicted that: 1) he would blame the media, 2) he would say he was talking about immigrants, and 3) his supporters would be utterly unfazed by all of it.
3 for 3, baby.
Patterico (86c8ed) — 11/20/2015 @ 5:20 pmwell a) hunter walker, is a jackalope, b) context would suggest he was still talking about the wall,
http://therightscoop.com/trump-says-he-didnt-hear-muslim-database-question-when-he-answered-it-wants-a-syrian-refugee-database/
narciso (732bc0) — 11/20/2015 @ 5:31 pm#86
He says he didn’t hear the question clearly because of the noise. It’s certainly possible. I say this as a Cruz supporter. Trump isn’t my second choice either.
Gerald A (949d7d) — 11/20/2015 @ 5:34 pmThat could be. He needs to learn to clarify the questions he’s answering. This is Politics 101.
I am not going to sign onto the Poor Donald Beset Upon by the Big Bad Media narrative. There was nothing unfair about the question and the word database came up more than once. Grow up, Donald. This is how they play.
So what is his position on such a database? Last I heard, his spokeshole was saying he wouldn’t rule anything out. Has he said?
Patterico (86c8ed) — 11/20/2015 @ 5:37 pmI’m not either, but the more likely conclusion would pertain to the recent wave of immigrants,
narciso (732bc0) — 11/20/2015 @ 5:41 pmBut but but ….he’s a good man just trying to do what he thinks is best for this country!
God this website is a freaking joke. Where is your consistency patterico?
Has he sat in a racist church for 20 Years?
Has he attended a fundraiser hosted by a fucking terrorist?
but trump gets no benefit of the doubt from you why? If you were consistent trump could say there were 21 states, attend a fucking party hosted by Timothy mcveighs family, and start going to westboro baptist church on Sunday’s and you should be fine with it.
Or was that entire “good man” comment just you being a sniveling weasel and wanting to avoid being called a racist by the selfsame jackasses who have been calling you a racist anyway for the past 7 years.
Mr Pink (d76519) — 11/20/2015 @ 5:54 pmPatterico = Charles Johnson
Mr Pink (d76519) — 11/20/2015 @ 5:57 pmSomeone started drinking early tonight.
Patterico (86c8ed) — 11/20/2015 @ 6:08 pmGod this website is a freaking joke.
So then I take it you are done with us and will no longer be reading or commenting here.
Golly, how we’ll miss you!
JVW (738b08) — 11/20/2015 @ 6:19 pmPatterico holds white people to a higher standard than black people
Mr Pink (d76519) — 11/20/2015 @ 6:48 pm“Patterico = Charles Johnson”
I call bullsh*t. Patterico doesn’t play teh skin flute!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/20/2015 @ 6:58 pmIt’s not like Trump isn’t predictable.
Rodney Ling Cod's Spirit (2601c0) — 11/20/2015 @ 7:01 pmhttp://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/11/20/in-poll-after-poll-trump-beats-clinton-and-that-scares-the-hell-out-of-gope-globalists/
mg (31009b) — 11/20/2015 @ 7:04 pmhttp://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/11/they-lied-media-edited-video-to-claim-donald-trump-said-to-register-all-muslims-video/
mg (31009b) — 11/20/2015 @ 7:22 pmThe same thing is happening here. The edited version makes it look like Trump was talking about implementing a database of Muslims. When Trump was talking about “implementing” a wall and tracking illegal immigrants.
I realize you hate Trump. But you sort of lose your mind when the subject comes up and react exactly how the LHMFM hopes you react to their little tricks. Every time.
I’ve been away from the net all day and came upon this bit of news a short while ago. I admit to immediately thinking Trump must have put his foot into his mouth — because he does have a habit of shooting from the hip and being the flip side of a politically correct dweeb — and assumed Pat’s blog entry therefore correctly reflected the gist of the matter. But since I also generally trust your take on various issues too, I’ll go with your statement as the final word.
I don’t recall Patterico expressing quite as much exasperation with Obama back in 2008-2009 — when a blog entry (or posting?) here ended up characterizing the deranged charlatan now in the White House as a “good man” — as he’s doing with Trump in 2015.
Mark (74fce8) — 11/20/2015 @ 7:23 pmWell as long as Pat is going to call that a win, I’ll go ahead an polish my own apple.
at #3 I say, I say, I say, I said…
To that the answer is NEVER. The Times NEVER lets the truth get in the way of an outrageous and potentially damaging line of horse manure. Never fails to misconstrue the words of a Republican, especially if they only have to cut the tape once or twice to make it line up with their lie.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 11/20/2015 @ 7:43 pmYou realize there are tons of government databases already, right? And that people who enter the country go in them. And that the President is required, per statute and constitution, to manage said databases. So he talked about good management.
And that Muslims don’t receive an exemption from being in said databases. And he spent most of his time switching it to his actual policies of build a wall and everyone has to be here legally. For that matter, he supports legal immigration and has said so repeatedly, to the consternation of some of his supporters.
Etc. Etc. This is a smear job.
He wasn’t really following the reporter, the reporter was putting words in his mouth, but of course Trump is going to run and manage whatever databases there are, of which there must be several, and we must all be in some.
Or do you think the not having databases a la the Syrian “refugees” is the optimal solution for the government to base its security decisions on?
Yeah, the leftists slurs of Trump sound bad here, but he didn’t say what they said he said. He, if anything, talked about databases as a way of ensuring people are in the USA legally. Something I would think you would support.
It would be up to Congress as to whether to get rid of whatever databases. In the meantime, the President is legally required to manage them, and “good management” is one of the things Trump claims to be able to bring to the table.
The Pattern Repeats (f9e702) — 11/20/2015 @ 7:52 pmSo anyway, Cruz seems to have good instincts about this sort of thing and not going apesh*t at media slurs. He is, admittedly, a little calmer than Trump, and often a supporter. They’ll make a great team.
Trump-Cruz 2016.
The Pattern Repeats (f9e702) — 11/20/2015 @ 7:55 pmOk, Trump is not at all media-savvy.
He is a simple, unsophisticated man totally at a loss in front of a camera and microphone.
An innocent manipulated by cunning and conniving talking heads who put words in his mouth.
He never had his own TV shows.
He has never produced any number of big media productions.
That is rain falling on my shoe even if it is warm and yellow and smells like urine.
You Trumpeters just take the cake defending this guy. But we are all reasonable people here and I think we can all agree to a reasonable compromise. To wit, that Trump is a badger-headed buffoon who does not give a ____ what idiotic nonsense he spouts as long as it gets him publicity.
nk (dbc370) — 11/20/2015 @ 8:21 pmAs long as it get him publicity and helps Hillary get elected, that is.
nk (dbc370) — 11/20/2015 @ 8:23 pmTrump is, by and large, fantastic at dealing with the media. But he can’t stop them from lying. However, he’ll address this, and his support will go up.
Hardly unrelated: In Poll After Poll Trump Beats Clinton – And That Scares The Hell Out of GOPe Globalists…
The Pattern Repeats (f9e702) — 11/20/2015 @ 8:25 pmThe establishment republicans have done more damage to this country than Trump has or probably would, nk.
mg (31009b) — 11/20/2015 @ 8:28 pmCruz/West
I’m sure Hunter walker, wanted to ambush him, but Trump’s response was a trial balloon, seeing if he can ‘move the Overton window’
narciso (732bc0) — 11/20/2015 @ 8:30 pmMostly through inaction. Trump is an actor, in both senses of the term.
The Pattern Repeats (f9e702) — 11/20/2015 @ 8:31 pmI agree, mg. We’re all being whipsawed by what in Illinois we call the Combine. One bunch calling themselves Democrats and one bunch calling themselves Republicans, each scaring us with the threat of the other, and both screwing us.
nk (dbc370) — 11/20/2015 @ 8:35 pmWritten today:
Of course, those are Republicans who are really more concerned with Donald Trump’s winning than the possibility of his losing. Well, at least you’ll get a sweet wall out of the deal.
The Pattern Repeats (f9e702) — 11/20/2015 @ 8:38 pmThe boosh family and it’s roveaholic handlers have brought on the total dysfunction of team republican.
mg (31009b) — 11/20/2015 @ 8:38 pmBlame Trump
lmmfao
I’ll take trumps wall over team republicans route to ryan’s amnesty.
mg (31009b) — 11/20/2015 @ 8:42 pmCruz/West
Screening, by DEFINITION, is discrimination.
When perpetrators of a crime are thought to be of a particular race or gender, law enforcement begins to screen (discriminate) on the basis of the race or gender (or height, or weight, or habits, or affiliations, etc., ad nauseum).
The question is whether such screening, such discrimination, is illegal discrimination.
I get that you don’t like it that a whole group of people might get screened upon the basis of their religion. But that does not necessarily mean that it is illegal.
I’m kind of shocked that as a prosecutor, you don’t see this.
School Marm (f96753) — 11/20/2015 @ 8:48 pmSaving speaker ryan will be another waste of energy performed by team republican.
mg (31009b) — 11/20/2015 @ 8:48 pmotoh, he coud do with a bit more precision, he’s a Wharton grad, he wouldn’t do a major presentation on the fly,
narciso (732bc0) — 11/20/2015 @ 8:50 pmI’m also kind of shocked you would quote the NY Times for the source of Trump’s quote.
Rush is saying that Trump didn’t say it. “There are stories all over the Drive-By Media — the Associated Press, Yahoo News, I mean, it’s everywhere — that Donald Trump supposedly is calling for the registration of all Muslims in America. Trump is demanding that they all be registered and that a massive database be collected. CNN is all over reporting this. Even the Wall Street Journal has picked up on it. There’s a problem, though: Trump didn’t say it.”
After listening to the audio, Trump did not say it. Trump did not say he supports REQUIRING Muslims to register in a database.
School Marm (f96753) — 11/20/2015 @ 8:57 pmEmail.
From: Ahmed@detroit
To: Abdul@Pittsburgh
I was fed up with being burgled every other day in my neighborhood.
So, I tore out my alarm system & de-registered from our local Neighborhood Watch.
I’ve planted a Pakistani flag in each corner of my front garden and a large Black Flag of ISIS in the centre. I grew a beard and only wear turbans in my free time.
Now, the Detroit Police, the Michigan State Police, the FBI, the National Security Agency, DHS, the CIA, and who knows who else, are all watching my house 24x7x365.
My children are followed to school every day and my wife when she goes shopping. I’m followed to and from work every day.
I have never felt safer.
nk (dbc370) — 11/20/2015 @ 9:01 pmAs far as the media goes, it’s pretty simple here: the media is one of the most hated and distrusted professions in America, and no one hates it more than the GOP base. If you haven’t noticed, Trump draws attention to this in every speech he gives, calling the media very dishonest people, etc. His getting the media against him—and repeatedly being able to point out their dishonesty to massive crowds, including on TV and online—is not a lack of media savvy on his part! It is the opposite.
Who, pray tell, in the GOP race has more experience in handling the media than does Donald Trump?
The Pattern Repeats (f9e702) — 11/20/2015 @ 9:01 pm“I predicted that: 1) he would blame the media, 2) he would say he was talking about immigrants, and 3) his supporters would be utterly unfazed by all of it.
3 for 3, baby.
Patterico (86c8ed) — 11/20/2015 @ 5:20 pm
I say you predicted that AFTER you heard the audio, and had to walk back your own certainty.
School Marm (f96753) — 11/20/2015 @ 9:04 pm” Hey, look! Trump said heinous thing X! What an asshole!”
“I predict Trump will a) blame the media, 2) he will say he didn’t say X but meant something else, and 3) his supporters will be utterly unfazed by all of it.”
My God, Patterico, you’re a freaking genius! I predict this method of impugning Trump will work for you every time!
School Marm (f96753) — 11/20/2015 @ 9:08 pmOpen borders, man (1965). It necessitates the security and surveillance state. A more homogenous, and thus united, population reduces the need for it.
But in the meantime, yeah: Databases. Wall. Deportations. Etc.
The Pattern Repeats (f9e702) — 11/20/2015 @ 9:09 pmHey guess what? I heard that Trump said he wants to implant a microchip in every Muslim! He’s a crazy man!
Whadda I gotta do to defend this assertion? Use the Patterico method as illustrated above!
School Marm (f96753) — 11/20/2015 @ 9:10 pmHere’s to hoping certain folk are getting a taste of how it must feel to be writing for the LA Times, and now have empathy for them.
School Marm (f96753) — 11/20/2015 @ 9:12 pmapplause,nk.
mg (31009b) — 11/20/2015 @ 9:12 pmThe funny thing is Trump has been pretty adamant about supporting legal immigration. So, a wall to prevent illegal immigration and a database (which one hopes already exists, and probably does) to track who is in America legally or otherwise are in line with this and not, at all, anathema to legal immigration—including by Muslims. However, I’m glad he sees the need to prioritize Christians who are being disproportionately targeted because of their religion. In that way, he’s one of the best Christians.
He may not even believe in God, for all I know, and his books with their descriptions of his romantic conquests are … colorful. But he is willing to stand up for the faith, for its practitioners, and for his civilization. Give credit where credit is due.
The Pattern Repeats (f9e702) — 11/20/2015 @ 9:15 pmThank you, mg.
nk (dbc370) — 11/20/2015 @ 9:15 pmThe party of real stupid, just won’t listen.
mg (31009b) — 11/21/2015 @ 3:03 amhttp://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/20/keystone-cops-gop-consultant-class-heroes-publicly-panhandling-desperate-bid-derail-donald-trump/
No way will any republican other than Cruz get my vote. I would vote for trump, but I don’t consider him a republican, just American.
Okay we’ve hashed out the “what”. Moving onto “why”, all three of the Democrats are positioning themselves for surrender to Islam.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 11/21/2015 @ 8:30 amWhich I guess is only right, being that oil sheik’s are their priniciple campaign contributors and main constituency.
who am I, nd why am I here;
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/omalley-says-who-the-hell-knows-when-asked-if-obama-has-dismissed-american-fears-about-terrorism/
narciso (732bc0) — 11/21/2015 @ 10:01 amThe party of real stupid, just won’t listen.
I’m trying to get a handle on the ideological orientation of such Republicans. They don’t seem like staunch conservatives but I’m not sure if they’re instead squish-squishes like a John Kasich or Lindsay Graham. Either way, any Republican who is pushing the idea that people shouldn’t vote at all if they’ll otherwise pluck a chad or pull the lever for Donald Trump strike me as tactically idiotic.
Mark (f713e4) — 11/21/2015 @ 10:42 amAs it turns out, Trump said nothing of the sort. Transcript of interview with Walker. Yahoo is just another lying crapfest in the MSM.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/how-the-crazy-trump-muslim-database-story-got-started/article/2576891
Kevin M (25bbee) — 11/21/2015 @ 11:42 amMarissa Mayer’s been a good little wench for obama from the get go
it’s who she is
happyfeet (831175) — 11/21/2015 @ 11:47 amAwesome. Now we’re knocking people down, not on principle, not on behavior, not even circumstantial evidence, but with straw clowns.
n.n (f0c118) — 11/21/2015 @ 12:30 pmTrump should have started small.
He should have said that he would argue that the preaching of practice of Islam creates a hostile educational environment in violation of Title VII and Title IX, and as such public universities receiving federal money must expel students who practice of Islam. This would not violate the First Amendment because public universities have a code of conduct, and it does not actually stop people from practicing Islam; the university only expels them. Plus, they would not be put in prison for practicing Islam- the First Amendment only prohibits criminal punishment, not expulsions by the university for violating the code of conduct
Michael Ejercito (d74b61) — 11/21/2015 @ 12:58 pmKevin M sez:
From his link:
That is a reference to the MSNBC interview and not the Yahoo one.
The video remains at the link in the post. The unedited portion makes it clear that Trump agreed as York said. His absolute best defense is that he didn’t hear the question even though the concept of a database was brought up more than once and he STILL has not ruled it out (as Ted Cruz has).
You can pretend this story is wholly made up, but it’s not. Sorry.
Patterico (86c8ed) — 11/21/2015 @ 1:04 pmthank you for letting me make pretend
in my heart i do not believe Mr. The Donald wants to do databases on the muslims
but i do think he would never open the floodgates to an onslaught of murderous terrorist refugees and for this i am very grateful
thank you Mr. The Donald happy thanksgiving to you and yours
happyfeet (831175) — 11/21/2015 @ 1:08 pmNobody said it was wholly made up. Every great lie contains a kernel of truth.
Steve57 (f9c99b) — 11/21/2015 @ 1:14 pmI do not like Donald Trump. Let me say that again.
I DO NOT LIKE DONALD TRUMP!
A few short months back when Donald Trump questioned John McCain’s heroism I backed John McCain. At least so far as was in my capacity to do, lowly commentator on the interwebs what I am.
Also, let me add, I do not like John McCain. Let me say that again.
I DO NOT LIKE JOHN MCCAIN.
Leaving aside all the valor awards John McCain EARNED as a guest of Hanoi, he also earned the DFC for pressing home an attack that ultimately led to his imprisonment. That DFC alone elevates John McCain to hero status. Not just in my eyes; get with the program.
Point being, there are lots of reasons to dislike Donald Trump. I just reminded you of one myself; his attack on John McCain.
Gawd I hate sticking up for John McCain.
But this media fabrication is not one of those reasons to dislike Donald Trump. And, and, if you like Cruz or Rubio or whomever you have to take a stand against this style of attack directed at Trump.
Steve57 (f9c99b) — 11/21/2015 @ 1:28 pmwhaaa?
John McCain was a war hero?
he’s never mentioned this
happyfeet (831175) — 11/21/2015 @ 1:34 pmI DO NOT LIKE TRUMP. I DO NOT LIKE TRUMP. I DO NOT LIKE TRUMP.
Ok, everybody feel better. I believe I’m on record as saying that if I’m presented with a slate of candy-dates, and I’m limited to voting for Judas Iscariot or Satan, if that’s all I got I’m voting for Judas on the basis he’s not actually Satan
Which is what we got if it’s Trump v. Hillary! And guess which one is actually Satan.
The point is, the LHMFM is siding with Satan. Currently Trump is the “not satan.” But when he drops out somebody else will be the “not satan” in the satanic LHMFM’s eyes.
It is short sighted of Republicans, conservatives in particular, to fall for this BS.
I DO NOT LIKE TRUMP. I DO NOT LIKE TRUMP. I DO NOT LIKE TRUMP.
That is all.
Steve57 (f9c99b) — 11/21/2015 @ 1:48 pmI’m not going to give any candidate that I don’t respect the satisfaction or power of doing anything in my name. The idea that a non-vote for one is a vote for another is a pernicious invention of lazy aristocrats.
Leviticus (73e577) — 11/21/2015 @ 1:54 pm@145, I know you’re being your usual sarcastic self:
http://valor.militarytimes.com/recipient.php?recipientid=23680
Short of licking a Tijuana public restroom clean, there are few things I can imagine that would be more horrific than defending John McCain. Only Donald Trump could force me into this position. Refer to my comment @146 to get a sense of my feelings about this turn of events.
But, yeah, getting back to McCain he was once something close to what he said he was.
Which is no excuse for Arizona to keep sending him back to the Senate. Can you stop, puhleaze?
Steve57 (f9c99b) — 11/21/2015 @ 2:02 pmLazy aristocrats like George Orwell who had you pegged a century ago?
Steve57 (f9c99b) — 11/21/2015 @ 2:05 pmYour non-vote will be counted as a yes, comrade Leviticus.
Steve57 (f9c99b) — 11/21/2015 @ 2:06 pmhttp://www.orwell.ru/library/articles/pacifism/english/e_patw
Steve57 (f9c99b) — 11/21/2015 @ 2:09 pmWhatever. At least it’ll still be mine. Have fun succumbing.
Leviticus (73e577) — 11/21/2015 @ 2:10 pmAnd you are elevating your exalted self, how?
Steve57 (f9c99b) — 11/21/2015 @ 2:18 pmandy “pickledick” mccarthy of the national review of bill buckley’s stinking corpse says
To be a member of the Mafia, a person has to be an Italian male. That does not mean all Italian men are organized-crime suspects; but it does mean that if a prosecutor accused a bunch of guys named McCarthy of being members of the Bonanno Family, the case would be laughed out of court.
now booking the national review xmas cruise
happyfeet (831175) — 11/21/2015 @ 5:23 pmMr. 57 you’re the person – god bless you – but yes you’re the one they have in mind when they threaten to make the enemy live up to its own book of rules
mccain is a loss we can cut
me i did this many moons ago
he’s a tool
he’s such a tool it’s retroactive
done and done
plus his daughter is disgusting
happyfeet (831175) — 11/21/2015 @ 5:29 pmWell reactivating the demographic unit, shuttered because of some leaks the bureau have apuzzo would be a good first step.
narciso (a1aef7) — 11/21/2015 @ 5:40 pmAll Italians in the Mafia should rush to change their names to McCarthy.
nk (dbc370) — 11/21/2015 @ 5:40 pmthe only place i ever go on the whole internet what takes marco sleazio seriously is hotair.com
this is cause they’re a buncha bought and paid for fetus humpers
what the hotairs need to get into their 700-club-stunted lifeydoodle heads is that
hello?
rubio wears diapers
(seriously he wears thor pull-ups)
candid marco sleazio pics
mommy wow i’m a big kid now
just cause people take him more seriously than jeb bush does not mean people take him seriously
it’s really not that hard to understand
for the love of god do i need to form a super-pac
cause i will
happyfeet (831175) — 11/21/2015 @ 5:42 pm