Princeton Crybullies Want Woodrow Wilson Scrubbed from Princeton? Good!
The crybullies (thanks to JVW for the term) say Wilson was a RAAAAACIST and want him disassociated from Princeton. I laugh and say sounds good to me.
The news comes to us via Jazz Shaw, who says Wilson “was a dove who kept us out of the first world war until reality smacked him around enough to force his hand.” To which I say “wut?” Wilson was a warmonger who relentlessly pursued aggressive policies designed to drag us into World War I. This arguably led to the unbalanced terms of the Treaty of Versailles and thus to World War II. Anyone who dissented was thrown in jail, First Amendment be damned.
Not to mention Wilson signed bills establishing the Federal Reserve and the progressive income tax.
Here’s a quote from Wilson to show how delusional he was:
Why has Jesus Christ so far not succeeded in inducing the world to follow His teachings in these matters? It is because He taught the idea without devising any practical means of attaining it. That is why I am pursuing a practical scheme to carry out His aims.
Woodrow Wilson: fixing the errors made by Jesus.
Wilson was a tyrant and a horrible President. The crybullies may want him gone for silly reasons — but if it happens, I’ll still applaud.
Talk about biting your nose. Woodrow Wilson is the father of American Progressivism.
nk (dbc370) — 11/19/2015 @ 7:36 amYes, they’re eating their own.
felipe (b5e0f4) — 11/19/2015 @ 7:44 amMorons of the Left.
Rodney Ling's Spirit (ab8c0d) — 11/19/2015 @ 7:44 amWilson was horrible, but giving the crybabies this victory would be a mistake, as then they’ll want more (as they always do).
Reno_Dave (4ecafe) — 11/19/2015 @ 7:45 amLet’s not gloss over Wilson’s racism.
seeRpea (71d373) — 11/19/2015 @ 7:52 amI think having the worst PotUS of history discredited by Princeton itself would be worth giving the crybullies© .
Take everything named for Woodrow Wilson and rename it for Margaret Sanger. She was also a racist and a eugenics enthusiaste, but the progs <3 her.
V the K (50ecbc) — 11/19/2015 @ 8:06 amplease pass the popcorn…
redc1c4 (b85dab) — 11/19/2015 @ 8:08 amI totally agree with you!
Let’s talk about the racism of the father of progressivism. There is a reason, you know, why we haven’t up until this point.
Just look at the Smithsonian and the Obama appointee head who is obsessed with slaver Thomas Jefferson. He is doing everything he can to tear him down. And why? Why do they hate Jefferson and Washington so? Because then they can discredit the founding and the Constitution and run the country as they choose.
And F*** your white tears.
http://www.theawl.com/2012/03/the-new-and-improved-thomas-jefferson-enlightened-slave-owner
Patricia (5fc097) — 11/19/2015 @ 8:13 amThe only full-time academic to ever make it to the Oval Office — let’s see what the faculty thinks about scrubbing his name for posterity. Liberal academic historians like to rank Wilson high on the list of best Presidents, because certainly one of their own must have been really good at the job, no?
JVW (738b08) — 11/19/2015 @ 8:20 amYep, that was my reaction too. On this one point they should get what they’re demanding, because it would be a good thing.
By the way, you forgot to mention among Wilson’s crimes that he introduced segregation to DC and the federal service. He also promoted Birth of a Nation. Without him the civil rights movement might not have been necessary.
Milhouse (8489b1) — 11/19/2015 @ 8:27 amWilson was all about control of the masses. The possibility of a Bolshevik-type revolution scared him spitless. He co-opted the majority with progressive goodies; and oppressed the minority because he could get away with that.
nk (dbc370) — 11/19/2015 @ 8:36 amWilson was undoubtedly a POS however, there is this thing inside me that hates “striking” things from history. That’s the stuff of dictators. Besides, I only said America is exceptional, not perfect. Wilson went to Princeton. It’s a fact. Live with it. He also went to Johns Hopkins and Davidson. And I’m sorry seeRpea, but compared to this narcissistic, anti American, racist, psycho in the Oval Office today Wilson was just an idiot. An A-hole, but an idiot. He’s also another leftist douche who won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1919. Sound familiar? A man who deliberately caused the death of thousands given the peace Prize. So Obama isn’t the first mass murderer to have that honor.
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27) — 11/19/2015 @ 9:03 amNext thing you know, these clowns will begin to ask embarrassing questions about the Democrats. Like, “What was the Democrat alternative to the Civil War?”, or “Who was Robert Byrd and why was he called the Exalted Cyclops?”, or “Who was George Wallace?” They have so much to learn, and even more to unlearn.
BobStewartatHome (a52abe) — 11/19/2015 @ 9:03 amThere seem to be a lot of silver linings in the ongoing train wreck that is American politics. This, no doubt, is the cultural high water mark of progressivism. Wow! I’m having trouble averting my eyes from the painful burlesque. I don’t think I’m alone. What will tomorrow bring?
Moreover, current events, across the political spectrum and around the globe, are conspiring to pave the way for a Trump presidency. Kudos to Paul Ryan for advancing the cause, when even Jerry Brown is becoming a “refugee” skeptic – to those among us who thought Ryan was a good choice, what are you thinking now?
By the way, Brown has got to be considering throwing his hat in the ring. With the three Stooges constituting the entirety of the Democratic field, he could do some real open field running.
ThOR (a52560) — 11/19/2015 @ 9:14 amWilson was an outrageous, open, even gleeful racist, even by the standards of his day. But that doesn’t mean we chuck him down the memory hole.
Mitch (341ca0) — 11/19/2015 @ 9:18 amRev,
So
ObamaYasser Arafat isn’t the first mass murderer to have that honor.FTFY.
But Obama is a worthy successor to both Wilson and Arafat. Certainly, his fecklessness has led to far more deaths than Arafat, and his political “style”, or lack of it, is reminiscent of Wilson.
BobStewartatHome (a52abe) — 11/19/2015 @ 9:19 amre #12: I don’t think they want to remove WW’s name from history, just not have buildings named in his honor. I don’t consider that a “striking out from history”.
WW (just realized, how appropriate is it that this is for Woodrow Wilson and World War ?) was far worse than what we have seen the present PotUS do. At least as it stands now. Even so, there were a few presidents in the 1800’s that give nice cases for being #2 on the list of worst.
seeRpea (71d373) — 11/19/2015 @ 9:19 amBut WW still should rank as worst. He not only had despicable personal politics, he took a major role in foisting his “creed” onto the USA and to Europe. What WW1 started, WW made worse. And then compounded by giving an interventionist in other countries , even sending troops to Russia/USSR. (yes, i think he was still quite capable in his 2nd term. i think the stories of his wife are overblown and mostly without merit).
btw: I think your comparison of the present PotUS is just a little bit off and could be applied just as well to the man responsible for WW being President.
Yepp, consider OHB = TR (political life, not personal).
Taking his name off things is not striking him from history, just refusing to honor him any longer. He never deserved to be honored in the first place, so let’s stop doing it. Princeton should not be proud of its association with him, just as Columbia and Harvard shouldn’t be proud that they produced 0bama.
Milhouse (8489b1) — 11/19/2015 @ 9:20 amWe can only hope, Bob.
felipe (b5e0f4) — 11/19/2015 @ 9:25 amWell, Wilson had something the college victicrats would respect after all.
CrustyB (69f730) — 11/19/2015 @ 10:11 amI don’t want Wilson erased, I want him exposed.
Patricia (5fc097) — 11/19/2015 @ 10:22 amHmmm,
So, the one isn’t the first with a messiah complex if Wilson thought he needed to finish the task Jesus started
I guess we didn’t learn not to elect arrogant narcissists with messiah complexes
MD in Philly (not in Philly, and out and about) (deca84) — 11/19/2015 @ 10:22 amWhatever is done to the name of Woodrow Wilson, just make sure everyone knows he was a devout liberal Democrat — who promoted the do-gooder idea of a predecessor to today’s United Nations yet also implemented rabidly racist Jim Crow laws — and was just as cruddy (or, in some ways, less cruddy) as the current devout leftwing Democrat in the White House.
Such details aren’t widely known by much of the public—and mea culpa, since I too didn’t realize the full history of the 20th century’s first prominent “progressive” US president until not all that long ago.
Mark (74fce8) — 11/19/2015 @ 10:29 amI guess we didn’t learn not to elect arrogant narcissists with messiah complexes
Hey, all you Americans who voted for Barack in 2008 or, worse of all, all over again in 2012! You folks are absolute geniuses!
(There’s an article currently linked at the drudgereport.com leading to a New York Times article about a large percentage of New Yorkers barely getting by. Apparently a lot of unhappiness in America’s No 1 city.
Oh, I guess your city and state aren’t blue enough?! I guess the prevailing politicians you love wrapping your arms around aren’t “progressive” and generous enough?!)
Mark (74fce8) — 11/19/2015 @ 10:35 amWhen they start yammering about a subject a little more current, I might…MIGHT…listen:
What say before we all jump into the Way-Back Machine ot correct the historical record, we work-on eradicating the name of a known KKK Grand Kleagle from every public building and bus stop bench in the State of West Virginia?
You know…just to show how really serious we are.
MJN1957 (6f981a) — 11/19/2015 @ 10:40 amMJN1957 you have the perfect point there! All this crap about Jefferson and Jackson and the have everything from boulevards to buildings to bridges with the name “Robert C. Byrd writ large. Now that is something to be erased from history if ever I saw.
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27) — 11/19/2015 @ 11:00 amRev, Byrd, et al, cannot, alas, be erased from history. We will live with the fruits of their labors until such time as the electorate figures out that they can’t become rich by stealing someone else’s money. Perhaps “Robert C. Byrd” could be replaced with “Working Stiffs Who Paid Their Taxes”? Or, to put the matter in terms that are more current, say on all those shovel ready projects that stimulated our economy with such remarkable effect, “Federal Reserve Bank That Created the Funds, and Your Grandchildren Who Are Responsible for Repayment”? Or, “Social Security Funds Investment, Yielding Neither Future Dividends nor Preservation of Capital”?
BobStewartatHome (a52abe) — 11/19/2015 @ 12:00 pmSteve57,
In one way it is the same mistake Peter made when he told Jesus not to suffer and die.
MD in Philly (not in Philly, and out and about) (deca84) — 11/19/2015 @ 12:26 pmThe worldly mindset agrees with the devil and opposes God’s plan.
It will always be so to some degree until the end.
Wilson did considerably worse than just throw dissenters in jail. He created an American SA:
The American Protective League was an organization of private citizens that worked with Federal law enforcement agencies during the World War I era to identify suspected German sympathizers and to counteract the activities of radicals, anarchists, anti-war activists, and left-wing labor and political organizations. At its zenith the APL claimed 250,000 members in 600 cities…
APL members sometimes wore badges suggesting a quasi-official status: “American Protective League –Secret Service.” The Attorney General boasted of the manpower they provided: “I have today several hundred thousand private citizens… assisting the heavily overworked Federal authorities in keeping an eye on disloyal individuals and making reports of disloyal utterances.”[5]
In a letter to Briggs, the Justice Department told the APL that it was not only “of great importance prior to our entering the war, it became of vastly greater importance after that step had been taken.” The government had been receiving complaints of disloyalty and enemy activities, and while the Bureau of Investigation was doing its best to contain the situation, the letter continued, the Protective League served as an auxiliary force to put a stop to corruption within the borders of the United States.
Wilson was much, much worse than we remember. There was a reason his successor campaigned on “Return to Normalcy”. Return to Sanity would have been more accurate.
Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1) — 11/19/2015 @ 12:37 pmIt’s because I so very much agree with you regarding Woodrow Wilson, Patrick, that I must respectfully dissent from your conclusion.
I don’t want Wilson forgotten.
I want him remembered — with thoroughly knowledgeable, fully debated scorn — as the exemplar of a time when an American president, using nationalism and wartime fervor as his pry bar, levered us into a statist mockery of ourselves, turning the entire Constitution on its head with no effective dissent.
Wilson was more transformative — and vastly more destructive in the short run — than FDR or LBJ. The spectacular spasm of correction after Wilson’s stroke and the end of the war, and especially after his departure from office, un-did most of the worst things Wilson had done, however, again without much dissent. And so it’s mostly been forgotten that Woodrow Wilson assumed wartime dictatorial power that would have made Abraham Lincoln ill to consider.
So I do applaud this post, which serves an educational purpose. And I agree with you that it’s richly ironic for the similarly statist Hard Left students of today to be the ones who are refocusing attention on Wilson (albeit for all the wrong reasons).
Beldar (fa637a) — 11/19/2015 @ 12:46 pmBTW & FWIW, pound for pound and page for page, Jonah Goldberg’s discussion of Wilson and his times in Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning (2008) is as good as any I’ve read — well researched and highly entertaining.
Beldar (fa637a) — 11/19/2015 @ 12:50 pmWell, maybe it is a good thing for him to be remembered as a racist as it seems he did make things worse, like segregation in the military iirc,
MD in Philly (not in Philly, and out and about) (deca84) — 11/19/2015 @ 12:53 pmAlong with multiple other ways he was bad.
Wilson was always near the top when (academic) historians ranked the presidents. As mentioned above, it didn’t hurt that Wilson had been a member of the faculty himself.
DN (84d11d) — 11/19/2015 @ 1:09 pmWilson was horrible, but giving the crybabies this victory would be a mistake, as then they’ll want more (as they always do).
Next it will be Jackson. Then Jefferson and Washington. They’ll even get to Lincoln eventually.
“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.”
Kevin M (25bbee) — 11/19/2015 @ 1:13 pmParis 1919
mg (31009b) — 11/19/2015 @ 1:15 pmGood book that shows what a loser Wilson was.
I agree, Beldar, great book.
Patricia (5fc097) — 11/19/2015 @ 1:23 pmHere again, out of nowhere, light is being shined upon an evil, welcomed and encouraged by the evil. Nice.
Ed from SFV (3400a5) — 11/19/2015 @ 2:50 pmAgain, Beldar, he should not be forgotten, but nor should he be honored by having honorable institutions named after him. We shouldn’t forget Benedict Arnold, but we don’t remember him by naming things after him.
Milhouse (8489b1) — 11/19/2015 @ 3:05 pmAs the joke about “scientific socialism” used to go in the Soviet Union:
“The future is certain, comrade!
It’s only the past that we are unsure about.”
Steve57 (f3592f) — 11/19/2015 @ 3:17 pmI’m pleased to read here that there are people who do realize what a POS (as the rev put it) WWilson was. Now *that* is Progress.
seeRpea (181740) — 11/19/2015 @ 4:06 pmThe Princeton “protesters” don’t give a you-know-what that Wilson got us into World War One.
DN (84d11d) — 11/19/2015 @ 4:14 pmenjoy
mg (31009b) — 11/19/2015 @ 4:22 pmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1F0lBnsnkE
“Crybullies”?
I still prefer “shirts of color”.
LTEC (f3a329) — 11/19/2015 @ 5:05 pmFunny. I’m sure any “erased” CP member wouldn’t see it that way…
Bill H (2a858c) — 11/19/2015 @ 5:59 pmIt would be pro-choice justice if they cannibalize… I mean, plan, each other.
n.n (f0c118) — 11/19/2015 @ 6:01 pmAmal Fadlalla, University of Michigan Departments of Women’s Studies, Anthropology, Afroamerican, and African Studies
I bet Amal is one of those Muslims that didn’t need a razor held to her throat. An on purpose Muslim.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 11/19/2015 @ 8:51 pmI’ll bet she has a change of heart about her quote gracing the page of the Woodrow Wilson center sometime soon. Any way the wind blows.
The Wooodrow Wilson center and Wikipedia share the same thumbnail.
Coincidence?
papertiger (c2d6da) — 11/19/2015 @ 9:29 pmQ. How many SJWs does it take to change a lightbulb?
nk (dbc370) — 11/20/2015 @ 12:57 pmA. One to hold the bulb up to the socket and wait for the world to revolve around them, three to scream at the circuit breaker and belittle it for controlling power, and eight others to console the first four while they tweet about how problematic this traumatic experience has been for everyone.