A Telling Moment from the Democrat Debate
COOPER: I want to talk about issues of race in America, for that I want to start of[f] with Don Lemon. [Well of course you do. — Ed.]
LEMON: Alright, Anderson, thank you very much. I’m not sure how to follow that, but this question is about something that has tripped some of the candidates up out on the campaign trail. Can you hear me?
Can’t hear me in the room. OK, here we go again, as I said…
WILKINS: …law school. My question for the candidates is, do black lives matter, or do all lives matter?
COOPER: The question from Arthur…
LEMON: …There we go…
COOPER: …Do black lives matter, or do all lives matter? Let’s put that question to Senator Sanders.
SANDERS: Black lives matter.
(CHEERING)
SANDERS: And the reason — the reason those words matter is the African American community knows that on any given day some innocent person like Sandra Bland can get into a car, and then three days later she’s going to end up dead in jail, or their kids…
(APPLAUSE)
SANDERS: …are going to get shot. We need to combat institutional racism from top to bottom, and we need major, major reforms in a broken criminal justice system…
(APPLAUSE)
SANDERS: …In which we have more people in jail than China. And, I intended to tackle that issue. To make sure that our people have education and jobs rather than jail cells.
(APPLAUSE)
Not one of the Democrat candidates said that all lives matter.
UPDATE: Another telling moment: for Jim Webb the real enemy was the Viet Cong. For Hillary? The Republicans.
They have all learned their lesson.
Patterico (fecd9b) — 10/14/2015 @ 9:10 pmAnd notice how somehow, for some reason, Hillary! wasn’t asked to answer that question? I mean in reality she probably had a very carefully prepared answer for it since any fool could anticipate it coming, but it would have been interesting to see her take a stab at it. My guess is that she has memorized something like the following:
“Anderson, I believe in my heart that black lives matter. That doesn’t mean that brown lives or white lives or other lives don’t matter, but there is a special responsibility we have to address the legacy of slavery, Jim Crow, and the more subtle forms of racism that African-American face every single day. So yes, black lives matter, and my administration will be at the forefront of developing effective policies. . . “
JVW (ba78f9) — 10/14/2015 @ 9:24 pmMy guess is that she has memorized something like the following:
And in private moments, behind closed doors, she and her old man are known to have surprisingly bigoted speech patterns, using slurs to describe blacks and Jews, if not other groups.
I was trying to think of a major reason some of the biggest liberals in the Democrat Party Hall of Fame, including the current stiff, Clinton, LBJ, Truman, FDR and Woodrow Wilson could be — and have been — surprisingly accepting of, or the instigators of, racist policies, ideas or behavior. Perhaps it’s due to the intrinsically immature, irrational nature of liberalism. Since racism or bigotry is by its very nature an irrational way of looking at and dealing with people — and since immaturity makes a person particularly prone to being quite racist — it makes it not ironic at all when liberalism fuels surprisingly nasty behavior in humans.
Mark (f713e4) — 10/14/2015 @ 9:59 pmso my life doesn’t matter…
no wonder they all want me disarmed, so their Free 5hit Army can kill me at will.
excuse me while i do not cooperate.
redc1c4 (5508dd) — 10/14/2015 @ 11:12 pmThis was the basis of my comment on the open debate thread:
https://patterico.com/2015/10/13/the-democrats-debate-open-thread/#comment-1797388
I can’t help but think these leftist pathologies will come back to
haunt the Democrats if the Republicans are halfway competent.
Which is by no means a sure thing.
And what the h3ll was Jim Webb doing there? He struck me as a better GOP candidate than John McCain was back in 2008.
Steve57 (d94282) — 10/14/2015 @ 11:45 pmis it just me or does claire danes look more than a little cray cray even when she’s not in character
happyfeet (831175) — 10/15/2015 @ 5:40 am#2, JVW, yes, I also noted the question was not posed to Hillary, and she showed no surprise at all, nothing. The fix was in, she knew in advance the others would be trapped and she’d skate. CNN’s bias was indelibly on display, front and center.
Then, when Bernie Sanders tried to exonerate Hillary on the email scandal it was obvious the so-called debate was nothing but a kabuki performance. She’s the Democrat nominee, and we won’t have Joe Biden to kick around anymore.
ropelight (421b9d) — 10/15/2015 @ 5:56 amOne can only hope people recognize the pandering, gutlessness and fecklessness for what it is.
Colonel Haiku (c1bfa3) — 10/15/2015 @ 6:28 amAnd sad old grandma pantsuit is such a “consensus builder”!
Colonel Haiku (c1bfa3) — 10/15/2015 @ 6:30 amIt’s the Democrat primary. They can’t go wrong by going left. After the convention, the nominee will go right with a nod and wink to the base and a complicit media: “Like I have always said, all lives matter. Isn’t that right,
nk (dbc370) — 10/15/2015 @ 6:40 amCandyAnderson?” “That’s what you have always said, SenatorObamaClinton.”A man is stuck in traffic. He asks a Police officer (who is walking from car to car, speaking with each driver) about the delay. The Policeman says, “There are three Muslims blocking the traffic and threatening to douse themselves with petrol and set themselves on fire if we don’t get them airline tickets to the Middle East. So we’re taking up a collection for them.”
The Man replies “How much have you got so far?”
The Policemen responds, “About 60 gallons but a lot of people are still siphoning.”
Colonel Haiku (0f4bb0) — 10/15/2015 @ 6:44 amMiguel and Manuel are panhandling. At the end of the day, Miguel’s pockets are stuffed with cash whereas Manuel has barely enough change to clink together. Manuel can’t understand it. He ask Miguel, “What are you doing that I’m not doing?” Miguel says: “Look at our signs. Yours says ‘OUT OF WORK, WIFE AND 5 KIDS’. Mine says, ‘NEED $80.00 FOR BUS FARE BACK TO MEXICO’.”
nk (dbc370) — 10/15/2015 @ 6:54 amThat was no debate. It was a Socialist Rally.
AZ Bob (34bb80) — 10/15/2015 @ 7:08 am#5
Imaginary enemies (AGW , GMO , etc) are vastly more dangerous than isis chopping off peoples heads
Joe from Texas (debac0) — 10/15/2015 @ 7:18 amFor the annointed, Joe, it would seem so.
Colonel Haiku (0f4bb0) — 10/15/2015 @ 7:56 amhttp://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2015/10/blacklivesmatter-jewishlivesdont.html
narciso (ee1f88) — 10/15/2015 @ 9:33 amMore evidence of a fix
kishnevi (28fa9f) — 10/15/2015 @ 10:11 amhttp://mediaequalizer.com/brian-maloney/2015/10/fuming-bernie-supporters-why-is-cnn-deleting-our-comments
But I do notice CNN finds it worthwhile to carry Trump’s speeches live (or at least extended sections, like it did yesterday), and Scarborough has him on the on-air phone all the tine. I reckon they want the election to be Trump v Clinton.
and fox was slobbering all over red queen, what does that tell you, that rupert prefers one over the other,
narciso (ee1f88) — 10/15/2015 @ 10:13 amred queen?
kishnevi (9cb6b5) — 10/15/2015 @ 10:20 am,hillary,her royal highness because she thinks we are peasants and reinvents the language,
narciso (ee1f88) — 10/15/2015 @ 10:34 amdoubleunplusgood, comrade,
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/11924776/Judges-plan-to-outlaw-climate-change-denial.html
narciso (ee1f88) — 10/15/2015 @ 11:40 amPro-choice/abortion. Planning/cannibalism. Class diversity/discrimination. Equal/congruences.
Clearly all lives do not matter, but the deception is so good.
n.n (0d2c58) — 10/15/2015 @ 12:43 pmI reckon they want the election to be Trump v Clinton.
Of course they do. Bill Clinton suggested that Trump run, so that he can trash the GOP with his stench for years, while losing ugly to Hillary.
A classic Moby troll.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 10/15/2015 @ 3:35 pmAnd teh Red Queen’s lost her head
Colonel Haiku (0f4bb0) — 10/15/2015 @ 3:41 pmRemember what teh whooahhouse said
“Hillary For Prez… Hillary For Prez”
@14– Why did no one ask Hillary! to explain how she will work for consensus to move programs through Congress,and then declares that the other party is an enemy?
On the other hand… at least Hillary!’s enemy exists; Mr. Webb should be aware that Charlie is not much of a threat these days, unless you include their leftover sympathizers from back then.
Of course, all those on stage hold some hope of getting a good job in the administration, so they are not going to say anything to lessen their chances of landing one.
Gramps, the original (bc022b) — 10/15/2015 @ 5:45 pmI just thought of something (inspired by a sensitive spam filter).
nk (dbc370) — 10/15/2015 @ 6:10 pmBernie Sanders;
age 74;
so-Cialis-t.
nk, that is awesome. Let the jpg files bloom like a thousand flowers.
JVW (ba78f9) — 10/15/2015 @ 7:16 pmIf you guys want to give it a shot. I was afraid to download it. https://imgflip.com/memegenerator/Doge
nk (dbc370) — 10/15/2015 @ 7:55 pmhttps://imgflip.com/i/smghd
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/15/2015 @ 9:53 pm> Not one of the Democrat candidates said that all lives matter.
(a) Chaffee wasn’t given the chance to answer the question at all.
(b) Webb said: “As a President of the United States, every life in this country matters.”
aphrael (4eae3a) — 10/15/2015 @ 10:39 pmI think the Vietcong/Republican statement in the post is misleading, at best.
The candidates were asked the following question:
> Franklin Delano Roosevelt once said, “I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.” You’ve all made a few people upset over your political careers. Which enemy are you most proud of?”
Not, as the post implied, who the “real enemy” was. (The candidates had PREVIOUSLY been asked what the biggest national security threat to the US was, and all of them answered that by pointing to foreign enemies except for Sanders, who pointed to global warming – but the context for THIS question was clearly intended to be more along the lines of *political* opponents as enemies)
In answer, Chafee said:
> I guess the coal lobby. I’ve worked hard for climate change and I want to work with the coal lobby. But in my time in the Senate, tried to bring them to the table so that we could address carbon dioxide. I’m proud to be at odds with the coal lobby.
Like many of Chafee’s answers, this was delivered poorly.
Then O’Malley said:
> The National Rifle Association.
a crowd-pleasing answer, to be sure.
Clinton was next:
> Well, in addition to the NRA, the health insurance companies, the drug companies, the Iranians. Probably the Republicans.
Then Sanders:
> As someone who has taken on probably every special interest that there is in Washington, I would lump Wall Street and the pharmaceutical industry at the top of my life of people who do not like me.
And finally Webb:
> I’d have to say the enemy soldier that threw the grenade that wounded me, but he’s not around right now to talk to.
Given the question that was asked, the natural interpretation was that it was about political enemies – in your years of politics, who are you proudest to have pissed off and turned into an enemy as a result of the work you have done? Clinton’s answer was in line with that interpretation (the interpretation every candidate except Webb gave), and was presented in a way that seemed self-aware and funny (somewhat shockingly, for Hillary, which is probably why it worked). Webb’s answer just seeemed … strange.
aphrael (4eae3a) — 10/15/2015 @ 10:45 pmOf course it seemed strange, aphrael.
I’ve met James Webb.
It would never occur to him that I, the guy who stood in line so he’d could sign a book he wrote, was his enemy. I wouldn’t vote for him. But I’d stand in line so he could sign Lost Soldiers. Which, let’s face it, is more than Democrats would do for Hillary!
So it was strange he didn’t mention an American as his enemy. The only Democratic candidate not hate more on Americans than Iranians. I don’t think he’s capable of it.
That says more about democrats than it does about James Webb.
Steve57 (d94282) — 10/16/2015 @ 7:18 pmChafee answered: “I guess the coal lobby”. What he meant was the coal industry. Obfuscation, deceit and lies. He’s really against cheap energy for America and especially the poor and against jobs for working Americans. But it just sounds better to stick it to those rich lobbyists.
Then, the douche bag O’Malley (sometimes I’m ashamed to have Irish heritage) said The National Rifle Association. Wow. An organization of 6 million Legal American citizens joined together to protect and defend a Constitutional right is his enemy. Think about that. A man(?) running for president thinks Americans who want to maintain their Constitutional rights are his enemy. That’s despicable and not only should it disqualify him for not defending the very item he’ll be sworn to defend, but it should be a wake up call that all those people in the crowd who were “pleased” are democrats and anti American. What other rights would please the crowd to have usurped?
Then the lying grifter added: “the health insurance companies, the drug companies, the Iranians. Probably the Republicans.”. I thought Obama fixed any problems with the health insurance and drug companies. And why on earth would the companies that save and extend lives be your enemy? She is just picing out large, successful companies to be the boogyman of the day. A typical anti American commie trick. At least she named an actual enemy, the Iranians.
Then, the geriatric communist who still spouts off the worst ideas of the 20th century chies in with: “As someone who has taken on probably every special interest that there is in Washington, I would lump Wall Street and the pharmaceutical industry at the top of my life of people who do not like me.” Another Big, Fat Liar. (Don’t democrats have anyone who can speak a sentence without a lie in it?). The only “special interest” groups this dim whit ever took on were business. I could go through the entire list of pro black or pro illegal alien groups he didn’t “take on” (like he’s a cowboy) and dozens of groups like OWS and any group wanting to take the fruits of another’s labor.
How can the democrat party put up a old hippy espousing deranged, disproven and failed commie crap from the last century as a presidential candidate and be thought serious? I wonder what, if anything, is in the democrat mind. They followed Obama blindly and will follow the harpy even if she murders children. What is it that has been drummed into the democrat psyche that allows them to blindly follow fools like the German’s followed Adolf. No questions asked.
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27) — 10/17/2015 @ 5:13 amThe democrat philosophy:
http://lonelyconservative.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/D-Debate-600-LA.jpg
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27) — 10/17/2015 @ 5:31 am