Intolerance On Display: A Sign Of Things To Come
[guest post by Dana]
With Germany committed to taking in 800,000 Syrian refugees alone this year, and Europe experiencing a massive influx of immigrants, is it any surprise that the secular and religious traditions of the West would come under attack?
This from a petition at Change. org:
Dear City council of Munich,
I am writing this letter to bring to your attention something that I and many Muslims believe is unfair and requires attention.
I would like to inform you that the Oktoberfest is an Intolerant and Anti-Islamic event. We tried to ignore the event, but there too many Un-Islamic acts done at the Oktoberfest. Such as alcohol consumption, public nudity etc.
We understand that the Oktoberfest is a yearly German tradition, but we, Muslims, can not tolerate this Un-Islamic event, because it offends us and all Muslims on the earth.
We are requesting the immediate cancellation of the upcoming Oktoberfest event.
We also believe that the Oktoberfest might also offend all the Muslim refugees coming from Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan. The cancellation of the Oktoberfest event will help refugees not to forget their Islamic history. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
Morad Almuradi
Notice the call-to-action buzz words: unfair, Intolerant, Anti-Islamic, Un-Islamic, can not (sic) tolerate, offends.
While the petition was closed this week, it is certainly not the first, nor the last time efforts will be made to re-make Europe. However, with the massive influx of Muslim refugees and Europe struggling to contain the flow, those changes will likely come sooner rather than later.
–Dana
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Hello.
Dana (86e864) — 9/20/2015 @ 2:22 pmforegoing Oktoberfest is a small price to pay in exchange for finally – finally – solving that pesky jewish problem
good job Angela
happyfeet (831175) — 9/20/2015 @ 2:23 pmmost people will miss the beer more than anything but for me it’ll be the exotic mustards
they’re so fun
happyfeet (831175) — 9/20/2015 @ 2:27 pmWait…alcohol consumption and public nudity…
That has to be a first! /sarc
MJN1957 (6f981a) — 9/20/2015 @ 2:37 pmI think this sort of thing is called a trial balloon. Float it, then gauge how much resistance to the idea it engenders. That gives you an idea of how long your project is going to take. I’m guessing that based upon how this one played out that Muslims need probably 20 years to overwhelm the German/Bavarian beer culture, maybe 15 if they can really organize.
I also think change.org is easily one of the most stupid websites ever created. It’s a forum to allow the ill-informed to have their preening moment of self-aggrandizement. Anyone with an iota of common sense should refuse to take anything posted there seriously.
JVW (ba78f9) — 9/20/2015 @ 2:42 pmEurope should be worried. This from a top imam to the Muslim immigrants and Europeans receiving them:
Dana (86e864) — 9/20/2015 @ 2:42 pmOf course, JVW, it’s not really about German beer culture…
Dana (86e864) — 9/20/2015 @ 2:43 pmUn-islamic. They say that like it’s a bad thing.
Gazzer (956640) — 9/20/2015 @ 2:50 pmHey, Islamic dude: if your eyes offendeth thee, pluck them out.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/20/2015 @ 2:52 pmIs that comely costumed fraulein on the far right going to drink that beer or swallow the glass?
ropelight (a254d4) — 9/20/2015 @ 2:56 pmYou have been punked. The guy that started the petition doesn’t seem to actually exist. It was actively pushed by 4Chan.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/truth-revealed-behind-petition-ban-6459561
This is almost as bad as linking to an onion article. Please recalibrate your satire alarm.
tom hynes (c72e1b) — 9/20/2015 @ 3:07 pmplease to recalibrate your imminent israeli genocide alarm
happyfeet (831175) — 9/20/2015 @ 3:12 pmpretty please?
happyfeet (831175) — 9/20/2015 @ 3:13 pmPlus it’s in English.
TVD (b78be6) — 9/20/2015 @ 3:20 pmThe immigrants are mostly not from Syria anyway. Egypt, Afghanistan, whatever. Germany has the best dole.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 9/20/2015 @ 3:23 pmGermans will tolerate a lot, but going after their Bier may be the straw that breaks the camel’s back (if you’ll pardon the double entendre.)
WarEagle82 (44dbd0) — 9/20/2015 @ 3:41 pmSome people like being fooled.
jmann (cfaec1) — 9/20/2015 @ 3:43 pmAnd a radical jihadist, recently released from German prison for his last assault, stabbed a German female cop yesterday.
So assimilation is going well! I’m sure another million immigrants will hep.
Patricia (5fc097) — 9/20/2015 @ 3:45 pmsome people like steak and blowjobs
some people like listening to npr (even to feral rat-woman terry gross)
some people like going to Disneyland and not riding any rides
some people like it how 7 million women have dropped out of the workforce since Obama took office
some people like those ungodly high-calorie drinks you get at starbucks with your lectures on race
some people like America better now that it’s so weak and poor it can’t even sustain a space station
some people like those nasty harpies on the view that are so so cruel to the nurses
some people like Ryan Reynolds (???!?)
bless their hearts
happyfeet (831175) — 9/20/2015 @ 3:53 pmsome people
happyfeet (831175) — 9/20/2015 @ 3:56 pmSome people like being fooled.
jmann (cfaec1) — 9/20/2015 @ 3:43 pm
Indeed. And those who vote progtard like it as a lifestyle.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/20/2015 @ 4:00 pmoink,oink,oink
mg (31009b) — 9/20/2015 @ 4:08 pmI’m thinking this petition is a joke. If not, Morad Almuradi needs to have an Elaine Benes style Christmas card ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhIMV3lu6Qg — 2:50 mark ) from some buxom German woman.
norcal (4bd89c) — 9/20/2015 @ 4:08 pmIf you laid all seven of those frauleins In the photo end to end……you’d be exhausted!
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27) — 9/20/2015 @ 4:25 pmI just looked into this and it seems it may or may not be 4Chan behind it.
With that, Rush Limbaugh makes the point:
Dana (86e864) — 9/20/2015 @ 4:26 pmIt looks like that Merkel’s decision to control the flood of immigrants the very week that Oktoberfest begins, may not be a coincidence:
Dana (86e864) — 9/20/2015 @ 4:42 pmhis mood to celebrate is tarnished by the high number of migrants in the city
just wanted to savor that
happyfeet (831175) — 9/20/2015 @ 4:48 pmHm, I see Snopes has declared it a fake while laughably admitting they really don’t know the author’s intentions. They also neglect to prove it is fake…even though they declared it is:
After posting three crude comments, Snopes declares:
Yeah, about that shouldn’t be taken seriously bit… Snopes doesn’t have the greatest reputation…
Dana (86e864) — 9/20/2015 @ 5:09 pm“help refugees not to forget their Islamic history”
Which is exactly what they should be required to forget in order to come to Germany. But the Europeans will use tolerance to tolerate their own extinction.
BeckoningChasm (e1c14e) — 9/20/2015 @ 5:24 pm“With that, Rush Limbaugh makes the point:”
The fact that we were fooled is what makes us right!
jmann (cfaec1) — 9/20/2015 @ 5:30 pm#24… erschöpft ja, aber wie wunderbar es wäre!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/20/2015 @ 5:35 pmyer Mom says to get off the computer, jmann, and clean yer room…NOW!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/20/2015 @ 5:38 pmand with that, jmann finished the last of his Capri Sun, put on his special jammies with the Alvin the Chipmunk feet and got right back on his computer… eff that ol’ bag anyways!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/20/2015 @ 5:44 pmBeing fake, and yet:
I know not all were pro petition, but most were.
Tanny O'Haley (c674c7) — 9/20/2015 @ 5:54 pmThe fact that we were fooled is what makes us right!
jmann (cfaec1) — 9/20/2015 @ 5:30 pm
did not write that, jmann. What I said was that he makes the point: Whether it’s a hoax or not, we would not be surprised if such a demand were made. The writing has been on the wall. Given an increase in a particular demographic, it would be logical to see that clash of cultures increase, not decrease, given that assimilation does not seem to be the goal. Thus we are not surprised by such a demand. Why do you think that is? What have you seen that might cause you to see this as an eventual outcome or a result from a changing population? Do you believe it is limited to Germany? All of Europe? Or even, eventually, the U.S? Is this an unreasonable expectation? If so, explain why. Further, if you actually believe that there is a segment of the population that *wants* to see this sort of demand made, then please explain why you believe that as well. Cite examples if you can. That is always helpful.
But if you’re just going to act like a small, needy child clamoring for attention and desperate to be relevant, well, I’ve already raised mine. You’re on your own.
Dana (86e864) — 9/20/2015 @ 5:55 pmthere’s someone who has that name on facebook, he lives in morrocco, it means ‘loved by the beloved in arabic,’
narciso (ee1f88) — 9/20/2015 @ 6:00 pmI can’t remember when I had my last beer. Me and Romney have that in common. Trump too.
We already have homeless people camping outside every empty storefront. At functioning businesses, they take up station as soon as the lights go out. Why would we want to import more?
papertiger (c2d6da) — 9/20/2015 @ 6:00 pmDo the social activists propose to leave people behind or will they evacuate all of the Middle East, North Africa, and Eurasia, creating a wasteland?
It seems that rather than sacrificing people in those areas and causing massive dislocation of native Europeans, the solution is to send an armed force to establish safe zones and annihilate the terrorists. That is if the social activists actually care about the people in harm’s way, their homes, and livelihoods; and if they care about the “unplanned” children in Europe.
n.n (f6adfa) — 9/20/2015 @ 6:05 pmIs Stephen Colbert guest-hosting the Rush Limbaugh show? Did Rush really just use the “truthiness” defense?
What he’s saying about “it may be fake but it’s plausible” is indistinguishable from what Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert have been doing; Stewart for real and Colbert as a parody.
Gabriel Hanna (2ca835) — 9/20/2015 @ 6:49 pm#38
There’s nothing wrong with using satire to make a point about reality, if you can provide real examples similar to the satire. The point of it is that Muslims start demanding that anything that is contrary to Sharia be discontinued when they arrive in a non-Muslim culture. Are there real world examples of that?
Gerald A (949d7d) — 9/20/2015 @ 7:10 pm#39
The biggest problem with how liberals use satire is that the satire becomes the reality, i.e. “truthiness”. “I can see Russia from my house” is a perfect example.
Gerald A (949d7d) — 9/20/2015 @ 7:54 pm— How many Germans does it take to change a lightbulb?
nk (dbc370) — 9/20/2015 @ 8:17 pm— One. We are very efficient and have no sense of humor.
Oh, this must be a hoax. It’s so unbelievable and implausible. I mean, to believe anything like this could be true, there’d have to be cases of Muslims refusing to tolerate dissenting opinions and believing that only their values count. Yeah right. Next, you’ll try to claim that liberal college students demand safe spaces and trigger warnings for every aspect of their small, hyper-sensitive lives.
Hey, wait a second…
tops116 (d094f8) — 9/20/2015 @ 8:20 pmHey, where the white Frauleins at?
nk (dbc370) — 9/20/2015 @ 8:38 pm16.Germans will tolerate a lot, but going after their Bier may be the straw that breaks the camel’s back (if you’ll pardon the double entendre.)
WarEagle82 (44dbd0) — 9/20/2015 @ 3:41 pm
Ok, that’s even funnier than the “petition”.
nk (dbc370) — 9/20/2015 @ 8:46 pmPsssst, jmann: Just between you and me, Obama isn’t really going to roll back the rising sea either. But each of us gets fooled by things that to us seem entirely plausible.
JVW (ba78f9) — 9/20/2015 @ 8:54 pmI’ll have what she’s having.
AZ Bob (34bb80) — 9/20/2015 @ 9:04 pmGerman Beer Drinking Woman . Who ordered der buttermilk?
papertiger (c2d6da) — 9/20/2015 @ 9:32 pmYeah, that’s a real Dirndl. The ones in the post could be sorority girls from UW during Milwaukee’s Oktoberfest.
nk (dbc370) — 9/20/2015 @ 9:40 pm@Gerald A, tops116: I’m aware that Muslims make outrageous demands on non-Muslims, in this country and in others, whenever they feel comfortable doing so.
This is not one of those times, and so we cannot use it as evidence of how often Muslims do it.
If you were falsely accused of something, do you think it would be fair and reasonable for the accuser to argue that since other people named Gerald have done the same thing, that’s evidence that you did it too?
Do you think it is fair and reasonable for activists to use the story of “Jackie” in Rolling Stone as evidence of the “rape culture” on campus? Of course they have done so, and used the “truthiness” defense.
Gabriel Hanna (2ca835) — 9/20/2015 @ 11:29 pmIf every muslim were to leave America it would not upset me.
mg (31009b) — 9/21/2015 @ 2:51 amI would do a miles worth of back-flips in glee.
I’ have been waiting since 911 for these sick flucks to denounce their religion – they are all in on it.
mg (31009b) — 9/21/2015 @ 2:52 amWould confiscating the property from non moslems, beheading Christians and Jews who refuse to convert, stoning women and apostates, kidnaping children as sex slaves, hanging homosexuals and blowing up ancient artifacts from other religions count?
There is no reason for any moslem to live in America. We represent everything Islam isn’t.
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27) — 9/21/2015 @ 5:23 amWe should start Januaryfest, Februaaryfest, Marchfest, Aprilfest, etc…until we are done with vermin.
Jim (defd88) — 9/21/2015 @ 5:56 amOr would this be a better example?
Moslems should be politely asked to vacate the United States. If they fail to do so they should be removed. These dogs believe nothing American.
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27) — 9/21/2015 @ 6:03 amGabriel Hanna (2ca835) — 9/20/2015 @ 11:29 pm
Saying that something satirical is plausible is not the same thing as using it as evidence – if you can cite real world examples similar to the made up thing. Again, what the left does is that the made up thing is the evidence.
There are no real world cases similar to the bizarre Rolling Stone story that anyone knows of. Another problem with the Rolling Stone story, which is not the case with the seemingly made up petition, is that it was directed at a very specific group of people who suffered consequences. Your hypothetical example has the same important difference with this seemingly fake petition.
Gerald A (e1ec12) — 9/21/2015 @ 6:10 amWell Jim, it sounds a lot better than being closed for Ramadan.
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27) — 9/21/2015 @ 6:24 amIslamic tolerance on display.
http://louderwithcrowder.com/sweden-now-condemns-gay-march-as-racist-against-muslims/
Tanny O'Haley (c674c7) — 9/21/2015 @ 12:32 pmRight away I was able to identify this as likely 4chan trolling, which seems to be the case. In particular the name “Morad Almuradi” was clearly made up in 10 seconds. Pretty funny, but I still prefer the one where they petitioned to have Caitlyn Jenner stripped of her Olympics medals because “Bruce Jenner was, in fact, a woman participating in a men’s event.”
Eric (9bc338) — 9/21/2015 @ 2:50 pmIndeed, this has been debunked as a hoax, days ago. That said, it is a sad statement about Islam that it is soooo utterly believable.
IGotBupkis, "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses." (3d1b0a) — 9/22/2015 @ 8:30 amEven though it is a hoax, people like this do exist. For those (almost always religious intolerant types) who do actually believe their religion trumps others’ celebrations, the response is simple:
“Please allow me to invite you to sit and spin.” (Insert appropriate hand gesture here.)
We used to get these types in San Francisco every year at the Folsom Street Fair. They’d even make up lies about animal abuse and whatnot, trying to get it shut down. The problem was mostly solved by charging admission for charity – the puckered prudes can’t claim they were “just passing by,” and the outraged squawking was harder to take seriously from folks who paid to be upset. Different religion.
Passing by (b48921) — 9/22/2015 @ 7:32 pmThis intolerance will be deadly.
mg (31009b) — 9/23/2015 @ 2:28 amhttp://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/09/video-muslims-taunt-nj-school-officials-were-going-to-be-the-majority-soon/
are you assimilate
happyfeet (831175) — 9/23/2015 @ 2:38 amI’m a American ass.
mg (31009b) — 9/23/2015 @ 3:12 amJust wait. Demands for busty burka clad fräuleins will be next!
Bill Cook (2522d0) — 9/23/2015 @ 8:38 amIf that happens, Bill, we’ll have to account for some Lebensraum in teh trousers…
Colonel Haiku (a5ef55) — 9/23/2015 @ 8:49 am