Scott Walker, GOP Bitter Clinger Candidate!
[guest post by Dana]
This weekend, presidential candidate Scott Walker refused to cry uncle about an issue that carries no Constitutional weight, matters little to the majority of the public, and for all appearances, matters even less to the candidate himself:
“I don’t know,” the Republican presidential candidate said Saturday during an appearance before 450 donors to the political network backed by conservative billionaires Charles and David Koch. “I presume he is,” Walker continued when asked if he has had time to check since he set off a firestorm in February when he couldn’t answer if the President is Christian.
“You’re not going to get a different answer than I said before,” Walker said toward the end of a Q&A session moderated by Politico’s Mike Allen. Walker said he’s never asked Obama about his faith. “As someone who is a believer myself, I don’t presume to know someone’s beliefs about whether they follow Christ or not unless I’ve actually talked with him.”
TIME reporter Philip Elliott believes it’s important that you understand how significant and telling it is that Walker didn’t admit that which must be admitted:
Obama is Christian, attends Christian services and has spoken frequently about his Christian faith. During his 2008 campaign, he was held to account for statements made in his Christian church in Chicago. His harshest critics often—wrongly—contend that he a is Muslim.
That’s not enough to settle the matter definitively for Walker. This is as far as he would go: “He said he is, and I take him at his word.”
Bad Walker! Bad uneducated, Bible-thumping Walker! And he wants to be the next president? Seriously??
It’s telling when the media wants to force the hand of a bitter clinger who refuses to cry uncle in the way that they demand, especially when one considers that in a logical, sane and non-partisan world, one man taking another man at his word is a sign of respect.
And why was President Obama’s religion even discussed at the Freedom Partners Chamber of Commerce event given that the invited candidates had a limited 25 minute Q&A session? Wouldn’t such time have been better spent asking about actual things that matter and directly impact Americans, like Obamacare, the Iran deal, the economy, ISIS, our missing foreign policy, immigration, and any number of administration scandals? You know, issues that actually reveal the candidate’s positions and policies. The issues that Walker is always willing to take questions about and discuss – anytime, anywhere.
–Dana
Good morning.
Dana (86e864) — 8/3/2015 @ 6:32 amFor Barack Hussein Obama to be a Christian, he would have to believe that there is someone greater than himself.
The Catholic Dana (f6a568) — 8/3/2015 @ 6:49 amAnd, for anyone interested, this is me in my new Scott Walker t-shirt. This picture will prove that the non-adjectivized Dana is better-looking than I am!
The Dana pimping his own site (f6a568) — 8/3/2015 @ 6:51 amI guess I’ll start and get beat up. I don’t believe the idiot is a practicing Christian. He may pay lip service to Christianity at times for votes but that is all. He believes in too may morally repugnant policies to be a real Christian. And wasn’t it he who stated that “the moslem call to prayer is one of the most beautiful sounds in the world” or something like that? He listens to prayer songs while moslems build nukes to kill Israelis and Americans and behead Christians and rap and enslave Christian women an children.
Some may say that it does not matter what the faith of the President is. I disagree. Just look around this country and tell me that we don’t need a person of firm character to lead. All we see are opportunists and charlatans.
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27) — 8/3/2015 @ 6:53 amWell, I certainly won’t beat you up for saying that; all that you told was the truth.
The Dana who agrees with the Rev BHH (f6a568) — 8/3/2015 @ 6:55 amHis harshest critics often—wrongly—contend that he a is Muslim.
That’s what the question was really about. Do you think he’s a Muslim. If he’s not sure Obama is a Christian then he must think he’s a Muslim. It’s a birther kind of thing.
The question answers itself. Walker should have declined to answer and instead asked that. GOP candidates have to get through their head that they don’t have to answer every question put to them but turn some of these things back on the people asking them. He could have thrown in something like “I can understand why media people like you trying to keep the White House in Democrat hands want to ask these irrelevant questions. You don’t want to talk about the real issues. They have to start treating the media like the partisan participants they are.”
Gerald A (e1ec12) — 8/3/2015 @ 6:55 amDana, you never change man. You look great. Haven’t aged a week since our last lunch.
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27) — 8/3/2015 @ 6:57 amPolitico was moderating the a&a?
narciso (ee1f88) — 8/3/2015 @ 6:57 amMaybe a good answer would be, “Well, President Obama tells us that he is a Christian, so I want to take him at his word. On the other hand, though, President Obama told us that if we like our health care plan we could keep it, that he wouldn’t agree to any deal with Iran that didn’t shut down the nuclear facility at Arak, that he would cut the deficit in half during this first term, that there was no coordinated plan at the IRS to target conservative groups, that the Fast & Furious program did not lose track of weapons. . . .”
JVW (30a532) — 8/3/2015 @ 6:59 amAwww! Pooooor media stooges! They desperately, DESPERATELY need some dirt to smear Walker with (Migod! If this guy gets popular the satis quo could get REALLY seasick!), and they have soooooo little to work with.
Dolts.
I suspect they don’t take his run for the candidacy seriously. But if his style of running a State gets any traction, a whole lot of Wonderfully Socialist State GOvernments could get gutted by irresponsible voters.
It’s the Media’s job to save the Great Unwashed from their ill-educated impulses!
Gods, but I get tired of these jumped-up Liberal Arts major twits.
C. S. P. Schofield (ab2cdc) — 8/3/2015 @ 6:59 amTo Trump’s credit he has an answer for this kind on reporting … “No, no, that’s it, your done!” or some variant with the same result.
If the rest of the Republican field doesn’t pick up on this revelation and use it, they don’t deserve to be elected.
PS- I like you website, Dana. Got to get me Cruz t-shirt. (I’m back on board team Cruz, his book is revealing and interesting, and I like his speaking the truth to McConnell.)
bobathome (f50725) — 8/3/2015 @ 7:09 amRev. H, I said a long time back that Obama’s religion is Obamaism.
kishnevi (91d5c6) — 8/3/2015 @ 7:14 amObama’s religion is actually secular liberalism, or plenty of the theology of “Goddamn America, your chickens are coming home to roost!” Whether that’s draped around a bit of Christianity — in the setting of a church or not — is merely so much window dressing.
Mark (f32097) — 8/3/2015 @ 7:28 amobama is a sacred slut a sacred slut is he
and sacrilege it is to doubt his christianity
so let’s be mindful one and all about the insult that it does him
when people dare suggest he might could be a filthy muslim
happyfeet (a037ad) — 8/3/2015 @ 7:30 amObama believes deeply, and sincerely (or as sincerely as he is able) in appearances. He believe that they are important, and that they matter. He believes that if he appears to be stern with the Islamic nitwits of the world, that is more important than actually accomplishing anything (which he has no tools to do anyway). Likewise, Black Poverty and oppression (which is real, and largely the fault of his Party, but never mind). Likewise his religion; it is more important that he be seen to attend a focus-group-approved church than that he actually have a religious thought in his (largely) empty head.
Gods, but I wish the man played more golf.
C. S. P. Schofield (ab2cdc) — 8/3/2015 @ 7:33 amTIME reporter Philip Elliott should change his name to Philip Idiot if he believes that crap. Back when Obummer was running for his first term I watched about six taped sermons from Rev. Wrights church. Not on contained anything remotely resembling Christianity. They were filled with anti-white racism, anti Americanism, hate, envy and every other deadly sin known to man. So just because some A-hole says it’s Christian does not make it so. And Elliott, he was never held to account for statements made in his “Christian” church in Chicago or any other statements he’s made from spreading around the wealth to “you didn’t build that” to if you like your doctor. Elliott is a dirty liar and an enabler to a criminal enterprise called The One. This pig lies to us then looks us in the eye ad says he didn’t. And these dopes believe him! What the phuch?
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27) — 8/3/2015 @ 8:11 amIt doesn’t matter if Obama IS a Muslim.
Carter wasn’t a dictator, but Obama supports Islam like Carter supports dictators.
You can always find both arguing for, and acting to the benefit of, dictators and Islam, respectively.
IGotBupkis, "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses." (225d0d) — 8/3/2015 @ 8:51 amI don’t know anyone named Hussein who isn’t a Muslim, there may be a few but since actions speak louder than words and Obama’s actions almost always favor Islam in one way or another, it’s more than fair to speculate on his motivations. Although Obama claims to be a Christian, he sure as hell acts like a Muslim.
ropelight (4c7a33) — 8/3/2015 @ 9:03 amobama hates Americans and America, religion has no influence.
mg (31009b) — 8/3/2015 @ 9:22 amRev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27) — 8/3/2015 @ 8:11 am
Wright subscribes to Liberation Theology which lacks any connection with historical Christianity.
Gerald A (e1ec12) — 8/3/2015 @ 12:25 pmObama is an Apostate, according to the teachings of The Prophet, PBUH.
askeptic (efcf22) — 8/3/2015 @ 1:43 pmHe’s got an Indulgence.
ropelight (4c7a33) — 8/3/2015 @ 1:59 pmYeah, I noticed that in the video tapes, Gerald A.. Though the church looked like Christian churches I’ve seen and while the vestments were familiar and even some of the décor the “feel” was not that of Christianity. Therefore, why would Obupkus say he’s a Christian when he attended moslem schools and Liberation Theology churches? And why too would Philip Elliott say he’s Christian? A cover up, that’s why.
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27) — 8/3/2015 @ 2:21 pmI don’t know whether he’s a Christian either, but I seriously doubt it. How exactly could he have become one? Neither of his parents were Christian, nor were his grandparents, or anyone involved in his upbringing. When he started out in “community organizing” he joined a church, but even if we were to generously assume that it is a Christian church, he has assured us that he never heard the minister (whom he called his “mentor”) preach, and was completely unaware of his sermons’ contents. So who taught him or convinced him to become a Christian? Are we to suppose he converted himself by reading the Bible?! Seriously?!
Milhouse (a04cc3) — 8/3/2015 @ 2:27 pmI should add that, not being a Christian myself, I don’t consider 0bama’s not being one to be a problem. The problem is all the false and terrible things he does believe, not what he doesn’t. Though I think he really is an atheist, and I’d rather have a president who believes in a god, even a false one, than one who believes in nothing.
Milhouse (a04cc3) — 8/3/2015 @ 2:30 pmCorrection: there were some Christians involved in his upringing — the nuns and other teachers at the Catholic school he attended in Indonesia. It is remotely possible that one of them planted a seed in his mind that eventually grew into a Christian faith. But I doubt it.
Milhouse (a04cc3) — 8/3/2015 @ 2:35 pmObama or Berry as he was known then attended a Muslim school in Indonesia. His mother had married a Muslim and moved to Indonesia. If he attended a Catholic school, it’s news to me.
ropelight (4c7a33) — 8/3/2015 @ 3:39 pmSo called Liberation Theology is Marxism sprinkled with holy water.
ropelight (4c7a33) — 8/3/2015 @ 3:50 pmProlefeed. Nobody asked Obama if he thought Mitt Romney was a Christian–since many Christians don’t believe Mormons are Christians.
Meanwhile they can’t be bothered to report that Donald Trump has pretty much always been a Democrat, or his donations to the Clinton Foundation.
As Glenn Reynolds says, the press are Democratic party operatives with bylines.
Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1) — 8/3/2015 @ 3:52 pmPSBUH.
Pig Shit BUH.
IGotBupkis, "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses." (225d0d) — 8/3/2015 @ 4:55 pmHow exactly could he have become one? Neither of his parents were Christian, nor were his grandparents, or anyone involved in his upbringing.
I don’t believe a person’s decision for Christ is dependent on another person, even to share the gospel. God is bigger than that certainly, and stranger things have happened. However, it is quite possible that there were people along the way, random people whom God put in Obama’s life at various times who did share the plan of salvation and that we know nothing about.
Dana (86e864) — 8/3/2015 @ 5:49 pmHowever, it is quite possible that there were people along the way, random people whom God put in Obama’s life at various times who did share the plan of salvation and that we know nothing about.
you are so high
happyfeet (831175) — 8/3/2015 @ 5:52 pmI grew up with two atheist parents. I knew almost nothing about Jesus until in college, when a Christian roommate witnessed to me. Some years later I came to Christ.
There have been quite a few reports of Jesus appearing to people in Muslim countries, usually in a dream.
So it is possible, but in his case, I don’t think so.
Gerald A (949d7d) — 8/3/2015 @ 6:43 pmI am surprised no one has asked Walker if he has an opinion as to whether other people are Christian, like Bush or Rubio or Carson or Hillary. If he doesn’t have an opinion about Obama, has he also failed to reach a conclusion about the others? Is there anyone, besides himself, that Walker would definitively identify as Christian?
Northener (f7bb54) — 8/3/2015 @ 6:53 pm#31,
O ye of little faith.
Dana (86e864) — 8/3/2015 @ 7:03 pmIs there anyone, besides himself, that Walker would definitively identify as Christian?
Nobody is going to ask him that as the DNC is working on the GOP candidate they fear most and this is a “When did you stop beating your wife” type question.
He would probably give the same answer but nobody will ask.
Mike K (90dfdc) — 8/3/2015 @ 7:05 pm🙂
happyfeet (831175) — 8/3/2015 @ 7:05 pmNo, he did not. Of the three years he lived in Indonesia, he attended SD Katolik Santo Fransiskus Asisi for two years, and then SDN Besuki, a secular public school, for a year and a half. He never attended a Moslem school.
I’m glad to have enlightened you.
Milhouse (a04cc3) — 8/3/2015 @ 7:15 pmAnother Phil Elliot howler re Koch (hat tip)
narciso (ee1f88) — 8/3/2015 @ 7:19 pmHot air
“Northerner” is precious
JD (3898b3) — 8/3/2015 @ 7:21 pmTime magazine is now the kind of publication that would it’s founder reconsider.
narciso (ee1f88) — 8/3/2015 @ 7:27 pmNobody is going to ask him that as the DNC is working on the GOP candidate they fear most and this is a “When did you stop beating your wife” type question.
No other candidate is being asked the question.
I think Walker scares the Democrat in great part because he broke their power and exposed their weakness inWisconsin but also in the way he could care less about what they say or think about them. He doesn’t apologize for his Kohl’s sweater, or lack of degree, or faith, or his dorky background and faith. This on top of his steady conservative message. He is impenetrable at this point and that baffles and frustrates the left. It’s fun to watch.
Dana (86e864) — 8/3/2015 @ 7:36 pmI am surprised no one has asked Walker if he has an opinion as to whether other people are Christian, like Bush or Rubio or Carson or Hillary. If he doesn’t have an opinion about Obama, has he also failed to reach a conclusion about the others? Is there anyone, besides himself, that Walker would definitively identify as Christian?
Northerner, would it make any difference in you estimation of Walker if he opinions about other’s faith?
Dana (86e864) — 8/3/2015 @ 8:01 pm#37, Milhouse, Thanks for the correction. Apparently young Berry did attend an Indonesian-language Catholic school for the first, second, and part of the third grade. He then transferred to a government Besuki Indonesian-language school which had once been an exclusive enclave for the children of Dutch colonial officials and Indonesian nobility. He was there for the second part of the third grade and for the forth grade. Although it was a Public School part of the curriculum included Islamic instruction.
ropelight (4c7a33) — 8/3/2015 @ 8:04 pmHowever, it is quite possible that there were people along the way, random people whom God put in Obama’s life at various times who did share the plan of salvation and that we know nothing about.
kishnevi (91d5c6) — 8/3/2015 @ 10:25 pmEvery black community has a large number of committed Christians who would have no hesitatio in evangelizing a young newcomer, so it would be almost inevitable for community organizer Obama to meet and be evangelized by some believers. Obviously their witnessing came up emoty.
Yes, in most countries, including the USA, there is some sort of time set aside in public schools for religious instruction. In the USA this has to take place off-site, and be run by people who don’t work for the school; in most countries these manouevers around the establishment clause aren’t necessary. Since 0bama was registered as a Moslem, he would have received Moslem RI, certainly at the public school, and perhaps even at the Catholic school.
Milhouse (a04cc3) — 8/3/2015 @ 10:25 pmemoty=empty
kishnevi (294553) — 8/3/2015 @ 10:26 pmWe know Obama was raised as a muslim in Indonesia and attended a muslim-only school. So Walker is taking a cautious approach in “taking him at his word.”
We do not know the date of Obama’s apostasy from islam, it remains unclear. Neither do we know his conversion story, which all converts from other faiths must have and usually freely share.
Obama’s only know connection to Christianity is his long attendance at the nominally Christian Chicago church of Jeremiah Wright, which practices a form of “black liberation theology” not endorsed by any mainline denomination.
Estragon (ada867) — 8/3/2015 @ 11:09 pmNo, he wasn’t. His mother was an atheist, and his Moslem stepfather was not particularly religious. So who, exactly, was raising him as a Moslem?
No, he didn’t. Both the schools he attended had students of many religions.
Milhouse (a04cc3) — 8/3/2015 @ 11:22 pmThe Pope Emeritus discusses Obama’s religion.
http://www.christendom-awake.org/pages/ratzinger/liberationtheol.htm
eyeonbooks.com/obama_transcript.pdf
Liberation theology of all stripes is a Christian Heresy, and Obama is a false messiah and a false prophet who would replace Christ the Son of God, Savior of men’s souls with Chicago Jesus, community organizer from Nazareth.
Matthew 24:
I would much rather have someone who believed in nothing than someone who believed in his own earthly divinity.
One more time; Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI, then Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, on the heresies of liberation theologies in general:
And James Cone, inventor of the uniquely American heresy of Black liberation theology:
Steve57 (5a07a9) — 8/3/2015 @ 11:43 pmNot only not endorsed, but condemned as heretical by at least one mainline denomination.
Steve57 (5a07a9) — 8/3/2015 @ 11:45 pmAdherents of liberation theology are not subordinate to an almighty God, and do not serve Him.
Adherents of liberation theology believe in a subordinate god, who serves their almighty political interests.
Which explains Obama’s HHS mandate and gay marriage push. He’s not just fundamentally transforming the US, or the Middle East. He’s fundamentally transforming the divine order of the universe.
He has the same servant-master relationship between religion and the state as the CHICOMS. The CHICOMS, in case you missed it, have recently required Muslim shop owners to sell alcohol and cigarettes. There is one reason, and one reason only, for this order. The CHICOMS are forcing them to violate their faith. To show them who’s boss.
Obama is using their playbook.
Steve57 (5a07a9) — 8/3/2015 @ 11:54 pmwhat I was referring to earlier
http://libertyunyielding.com/2015/08/04/bias-free-time-magazine-blatantly-lies-about-conservative-billionaire-charles-koch/
narciso (ee1f88) — 8/4/2015 @ 10:44 am