San Francisco Killer: I Came Here Because This Is a Sanctuary City
It’s the thing leftists and statists never seem to figure out.
Create an incentive, and people will respond to it.
UPDATE: I thought I posted this this morning, but I didn’t.
It’s the thing leftists and statists never seem to figure out.
Create an incentive, and people will respond to it.
UPDATE: I thought I posted this this morning, but I didn’t.
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it sure ain’t no sanctuary for jobs
In our weekly survey of ten of Chipotle’s markets, we found the company implemented price increases in half of the surveyed markets this week—San Francisco, Denver, Minneapolis, Chicago, and Orlando. In most markets, the price increases have been limited to beef and average about 4% on barbacoa and steak, toward the lower end of management’s expectation for a 4% to 6% price increase on beef.
San Francisco, however, saw across-the-board price increases averaging over 10%, including 10% increases on chicken, carnitas (pork), sofritas (tofu), and vegetarian entrees along with a 14% increase on steak and barbacoa. We believe the outsized San Francisco price hike was likely because of increased minimum wages (which rose by 14% from $10.74 per hour to $12.25 on May 1) as well as scheduled minimum wage increases in future years (to $13 next year, $14 in 2017, and $15 in 2018).
happyfeet (831175) — 7/7/2015 @ 5:20 pmHe must feel very disappointed that the city lied to him when it told him and other illegals that they did not need to be afraid of the police.
nk (dbc370) — 7/7/2015 @ 5:30 pmLATimes of all papers has an interesting story.
Gun belonged to a Federal Agent.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-francisco-shooting-20150707-story.html#page=1
Dejectedhead (ba8561) — 7/7/2015 @ 5:32 pmI came here because this is a sanctuary city.
Translation: I came here to get free money and show my contempt for the sanctimonious bleeding hearts who insult my manhood with gratuitous handouts by wantonly murdering the most beautiful and innocent among you.
ropelight (218354) — 7/7/2015 @ 5:52 pmI bet this crimalien has planted his seed all over cantafordya.
racistbigotedmg (31009b) — 7/7/2015 @ 5:52 pmWhat I don’t understand about the idea of a sanctuary city is this: If there are no penalties for illegal actions who do you think will be attracted to them good guys or bad guys? So basically the sanctuary cities are advertising for the worst of the illegals to make that their home. Right? So why would any law abiding person, American, legal or illegal want to live in a place actively trying to attract the worst of society?
12,000,000 non-minority voters (f4eb27) — 7/7/2015 @ 6:03 pmI love “crimalien” and “ccantafordya”.
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27) — 7/7/2015 @ 6:05 pmStrip local authorities of sovereign immunity when they fail to hand over aliens to federal authorities; strip federal authorities of sovereign immunity when they fail to follow immigration law.
ThOR (a52560) — 7/7/2015 @ 6:16 pmErr, how about we stop “Catch and Release” and give illegals the choice of a tent camp with a barbe wire fence in the Llano Estacado while their appeals are pending, or a ship to Vera Cruz. Ask me why Vera Cruz.
nk (dbc370) — 7/7/2015 @ 6:20 pmAnd a few Democrats are responding.
How many families have to be destroyed before they wake up?
Patricia (5fc097) — 7/7/2015 @ 7:52 pmI call em crimmigrants. Ill bite. Why Vera Cruz?
Gazzer (ee3742) — 7/7/2015 @ 8:13 pmWay far south and a long walk back to our border. Not my idea, to be honest. It was a tactic used in Operation Wetback. http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html
nk (dbc370) — 7/7/2015 @ 8:21 pmAh. Back in the day when we still had balls and actually won, not ended, wars. Sigh…
Gazzer (ee3742) — 7/7/2015 @ 8:27 pmAnd when you lower the punishment for criminal behavior, you get more of it.
DN (78a7ed) — 7/7/2015 @ 9:11 pmUm, how can you do that? They’re under no obligation to hand anyone over.
Milhouse (a04cc3) — 7/7/2015 @ 9:27 pmInteresting:
Dana (86e864) — 7/7/2015 @ 10:00 pmWell, the Secret Service are always leaving their guns lying around, so why should we be surprised that some G-man in SF did the same?
Milhouse (a04cc3) — 7/7/2015 @ 10:07 pmFrom the TIME article:
elissa (68414e) — 7/7/2015 @ 10:11 pmCould be. We haven’t yet seen the evidence the state claims to have against that story.
Milhouse (a04cc3) — 7/7/2015 @ 10:13 pmR.I.P. Jerry Weintraub, producer of “The Karate Kid,” “Diner,” and others
R.I.P. Amanda Peterson, who starred in “Can’t Buy Me Love” with Patrick Dempsey
Icy (2da4ce) — 7/7/2015 @ 10:18 pm(a film in which your intrepid obit reporter made an uncredited appearance . . . as a split-second blur in the background of the nighttime scene in the parking lot outside the ice cream parlor)
It’s the “These aren’t my pants” story. Or “drug deal gone bad”. Spike Lee’s “Clockers” had a good one: “I borrowed it by accident.”
nk (dbc370) — 7/7/2015 @ 10:24 pmSuch things do happen, though. People do find all sorts of things. The prosecutor says they can prove that’s not what happened here; well, we shall see.
Milhouse (a04cc3) — 7/7/2015 @ 10:47 pm“most beautiful and innocent”
Beauty is as beauty does in my book. Moved to San Fran by choice. Made a living off of the ill gotten embryonic stem cell research lie. Also a choice. Killed by the very policies that she enthusiastically voted for her entire life. Well, it almost gladdens my heart that this young woman’s murder is opening the eyes of a couple democrats here and there to the “sanctuary city” crime perpetrated on me and mine over an entire lifetime.
Innocent? Yeah, that’s a stretch.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/7/2015 @ 10:59 pmWhile covering the sanctuary city murder…
Pro tip: leave your cameras at home in Sanctuary City.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/7/2015 @ 11:05 pmFrom SFgate:
I wonder when the police report on this was filed. I wonder if the gun was stolen with a car or from a car. I wonder if the gun was wrapped in a shirt.
elissa (68414e) — 7/7/2015 @ 11:07 pmoh and wear police style body armor for your touristy excursions.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/7/2015 @ 11:07 pmKilled by the very policies that she enthusiastically voted for her entire life.
I was speaking with a devout liberal a few weeks ago about a person we know in common (a former friend of hers, a distant acquaintance to me) who has been caught embezzling lots of money from a variety of victims. I was momentarily shaken because instead of expressing fury at the crook, the devout liberal started doing a kumbaya routine, said everyone should try to heal the wounds and recommended the victims resolve the matter with the thief (who I was told today is arrogantly, brazenly unrepentant). I privately shook my head.
Nothing unnerves and appalls me more than people who, in the name of do-gooderism and supposed compassion, end up inflaming the misery borne by innocent humans struck by criminality—and murder is the ultimate form of criminality.
Mark (710c48) — 7/7/2015 @ 11:35 pmI’m wondering why Kathryn Steinle is wearing a wedding ring? No husband is heard from or mentioned in the reports.
Her father’s name is Jim Steinle, her mother Liz Sullivan. Are they married or what?
I’m smelling a lot of feminism on this random crime. Smells like gym socks and cheese farts.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/7/2015 @ 11:39 pmThe Colonel does it better, but here goes. The tune is this old warhorse:
The loveliness of Juarez —
(Who’re we kidding, anyway?)
The glory that’s Tijuana
No trabajo on this day
I’ve been brought ‘cross the border
At Otay
I’m going “home”
To my city by the bay
[Everybody sing now]
No INS
In San Francisco
They’re not allowed
And so I’m free
Even when I’m pinched for an assault
I know that I will vault
Right out the door, no feds to fear
Safe right here
Hooray for queers
JVW, channeling Colonel Haiku (a18629) — 7/7/2015 @ 11:41 pmIn San Francisco
A city of sanc-tu-rar-yyyyyy
So progressive you
San Francisco
Next time I’ll rape, or kill, then flee.
Hate on me all you want Mark. Was your family driven out by do gooders making California safe for Mexico?
Mine was. I’ll call it as I see it, and you’ll get no revision or apology from me.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/7/2015 @ 11:46 pmIt was a natural fit: San Francisco for Francisco SANchez. Being a sanctuary was icing.
Rickrelevant (28f865) — 7/8/2015 @ 3:24 amPatricia asked:
Enough so that they see it at the ballot box. For the Democrats, nothing else matters.
The Republican Dana (f6a568) — 7/8/2015 @ 5:07 amUnless it turns out that Miss Steinle was a lesbian, which would make her murder a hate crime, the leftists in San Francisco won’t really care. It’ll all be about gun control, doncha know?
The obvious Dana (f6a568) — 7/8/2015 @ 5:11 amMark,
I’ve lived around it all my life. Thank whatever Gods there be, my Parents weren’t infected, but my Mother’s family is predominantly squishy-liberal, my Father was a college professor (and thus most of his colleagues were Liberal), and my wife’s family vote Democrat as if it were their hope of eternal salvation.
And they all talk about how MEAN the Republicans are. Intentions are everything. Results NEVER count. There is no policy so thoroughly discredited, so morally bankrupt, that they won’t be for it if it SOUNDS as if it would be “nice”.
Not that there aren’t unthinking, gut-driven dolts on the other side of things.
*sigh*
C. S. P. Schofield (a196fd) — 7/8/2015 @ 6:56 amIs San Francisco any more a sanctuary than the state of California?
AZ Bob (34bb80) — 7/8/2015 @ 6:57 amThe state also gives out driver’s licenses to them and probably some ballots.
Papertiger, how was your family driven out of Cali? And when?
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27) — 7/8/2015 @ 7:01 amCan anyone imagine the denizens of San Francisco being able to build the Golden Gate Bridge these days?
The concrete producer Dana (f6a568) — 7/8/2015 @ 7:07 amIn other words, the thief didn’t rip her off personally, so other people should be generous toward her.
V the K (50ecbc) — 7/8/2015 @ 7:08 ampapertiger, in response to your comment #23 – Beauty is also in the eye of the beholder, and as this beholder sees it, Kathryn Steinle was certainly a beautiful young woman and most likely innocent of any trespass Sanchez might have thought he was justified in avenging.
Of course, all the facts aren’t yet known and over the next few weeks we can expect to learn more about what might have motivated Francisco Sanchez to gun down an apparent stranger in cold blood at a well known tourist attraction.
Sanchez says he came to San Francisco because it’s a sanctuary city, a refuge for undocumented immigrants. Then after reaching safe haven Sanchez not only demonstrated his bloodthirsty contempt for the citizens who welcomed him, he also proved himself unworthy of admission to this country as he had on so many previous occasions.
Sanchez deserves the death penalty, and the sooner the better.
ropelight (5738da) — 7/8/2015 @ 7:10 amI think it’s time they painted the Golden Gate Bridge in a rainbow motif. That orange is hideous. Ask any interior designer. (wink).
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27) — 7/8/2015 @ 7:12 amropelight, as I said before if they advertise as a sanctuary city that is the type of people they will draw. They are literally advertising for criminals to make SF their home then they’re stunned when the criminals do. BTW, I think he said he was shooting at a seal.
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27) — 7/8/2015 @ 7:15 amHoagie, Sanchez says he was shooting at a seal but I don’t put much stock in what murderers say. They often savagely commit the most appalling grisly and heinous crimes and then come up with some self-serving pretense to evade responsibility and make it all seem like an unfortunate accident.
Sanchez is no different. He says he was shooting at a seal, and he also says the gun went off when he picked it up. But in my experience every time a gun went off it was in someone’s hands – I’ve never seen a gun go off all by itself. Never.
ropelight (5738da) — 7/8/2015 @ 7:40 amEven if San Francisco had honored ICE’s request to hold Sanzhez for pick-up, what would ICE have done with him – deport him for the 6th time, or release him with a summons asking him to voluntarily appear in court?
Statistics for 2014 (most recent available):
High rates of illegal alien incarceration are concentrated in certain communities, not all near the Mexican border, none of which are representative of the country as a whole.
The deportation numbers are also revealing:
Sanchez’s lawyer, public defender Matt Gonzalez, claims that illegals are more law abiding than regular US citizens. However, the statistics contradict that assertion.
ropelight (5738da) — 7/8/2015 @ 10:08 amHis client certainly isn’t more law-abiding. I guess the defense’s theory is that if you can’t win on the details, argue generalities.
DRJ (1dff03) — 7/8/2015 @ 10:12 amMSNBC published the suspect’s criminal record. He has a lengthy record for drugs and illegal entry. Sanchez was last on probation after being indicted in 2009 in Texas for illegal re-entry into the U.S. after removal. In 2010, the charges were changed to violating probation — an easier case to make with a multiple offender like Sanchez, and one that probably has more severe sentences.
Sanchez was sentenced in 2011 to 46 months in prison and 36 months of supervised release for his prior probation and illegal re-entry. He was incarcerated in the federal system in May 2011. Given that the California ICE filed a detainer in 2013, my guess is he had been serving his sentence in a federal prison in California. He was released from prison on March 26, 2015 — 46 months after being sentenced on the Texas illegal re-entry charges — and turned over to the San Francisco county jail to face prior drug charges.
DRJ (1dff03) — 7/8/2015 @ 10:41 amApparently Texas takes re-entry by a known felon more seriously than California does.
DRJ (1dff03) — 7/8/2015 @ 10:43 amReports say the suspect had made conflicting claims about this shooting — that it was an accident, that he was trying to shoot a seal, and that he was so high on marijuana and sleeping pills he didn’t know what he was doing. I have a feeling the last one is more likely. But if it’s true he used a federal agent’s gun, how did he get it?
DRJ (1dff03) — 7/8/2015 @ 10:46 amI’ve read where the gun was stolen from a car (with the car??), but who knows.
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 7/8/2015 @ 10:54 amAnd that it was not the agent’s “official” weapon, but a personal one.
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 7/8/2015 @ 10:56 ambut again, I’m waiting for P’s cross examination before I decide what to believe
The statistics annihilate that assertion.
http://hotair.com/archives/2015/07/08/almost-half-of-all-federal-criminal-cases-are-filed-in-five-districts-on-u-s-southern-border/
Steve57 (4c9797) — 7/8/2015 @ 11:01 amDRJ– see my comment @25. I have the same (and additional) questions. I fear that since a federal agent’s weapon was apparently involved we may never actually know the whole truth of the chain of “ownership” of that gun before the woman was shot.
elissa (43d68e) — 7/8/2015 @ 11:05 amThanks to “law abiding” illegal aliens, we living in the border states have something called rape trees.
http://poe.house.gov/index.cfm/speeches?ID=9B2D1340-A79B-4A41-B18D-E64986C90EBB
Since this isn’t copyrighted but on the contrary is in the public domain via the federal record I’ll quote it in its entirety.
Steve57 (4c9797) — 7/8/2015 @ 11:06 amWhat sort of insanity is this that we actually waste money to pay probation officers to supervise criminal illegal aliens for three years rather then driving them to the border upon release and catapulting them over the fence?
Steve57 (4c9797) — 7/8/2015 @ 11:11 amSaying the agent’s gun was “reported stolen…..” is not exactly the same thing as saying “a police report was filed”. The finger pointing and a$$ covering will not bode well for a clean investigation, I’m afraid.
I’m gratified the story is making headline news across the political spectrum, though, and that both Cali senators, Boxer and Feinstein have been forced to make some pretty strong statements against SF policy regarding the city’s blatant non-cooperation with ICE.
elissa (43d68e) — 7/8/2015 @ 11:15 amagree with your skepticism, elissa
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 7/8/2015 @ 11:31 amI agree with elissa’s skepticism about the reports and the government, especially since the BLM has now confirmed the gun was an agent’s service weapon — not his personal weapon — that was allegedly stolen while the agent was in San Francisco on business.
DRJ (1dff03) — 7/8/2015 @ 11:51 amMercury News reports The gun was stolen June 27 (4 days before the shooting) and the theft was “immediately” reported to the police.
DRJ (1dff03) — 7/8/2015 @ 11:53 am. . . both Cali senators, Boxer and Feinstein have been forced to make some pretty strong statements against SF policy regarding the city’s blatant non-cooperation with ICE.
With any luck this will severely hurt the political career of Gavin Newsome, a slimy and unprincipled San Francisco toad who was on a fast-track towards possibly becoming the next governor. If memory serves, in his San Francisco mayor days he was a strong supporter of the idea of a sanctuary city.
And maybe, just maybe, this will cause some heartburn for Kamala Harris in her Senate campaign.
JVW (2d4b57) — 7/8/2015 @ 11:56 am. . . BLM has now confirmed the gun was an agent’s service weapon. . .”
Can anyone explain to me why an “agent” of the Bureau of Land Management is carrying a handgun? The article says that the agent in question was a ranger, but are handguns really effective against bears? The militarization of our federal bureaucracy continues apace.
JVW (2d4b57) — 7/8/2015 @ 11:59 amThe BLM has been in the news because of its armed encounters at the Bundy Ranch, but its Rangers originnaly needed arms because of encounters with armed drug smugglers and illegal immigrants in our national parks. Ironic, isn’t it?
DRJ (1dff03) — 7/8/2015 @ 12:21 pm. . . its Rangers originnaly needed arms because of encounters with armed drug smugglers and illegal immigrants in our national parks. Ironic, isn’t it?
Ah, I had forgotten about that. That is some remarkable and sad irony.
JVW (2d4b57) — 7/8/2015 @ 12:26 pmNot to be too terribly picky, but BLM rangers don’t have anything to do with the National Parks. That would be the Park Service.
Also the BLM doesn’t run our National Forests or Grasslands. That would be the Forest Service.
But there is a lot of BLM land that they do, occasionally, patrol.
I’m sure they all have the same problems when they come across drug smugglers, pot growers, and illegals. I know I did when hunting on any such lands that are open to hunting.
Steve57 (4c9797) — 7/8/2015 @ 12:43 pmthe fascist Park Service is the one what likes to make poopy on veterans’ widdle heads
happyfeet (a037ad) — 7/8/2015 @ 12:53 pmSorta related. It has to do with some of the villains in this story.
I doubt they can answer that question to the judge’s satisfaction as “F*** you, laws are for the little people” is the real answer.
Steve57 (4c9797) — 7/8/2015 @ 3:14 pmI know people are talking about cutting off federal money to SF police, but to about half the city that’s a good thing. Cut off their water from Hetch-Hetchy, which comes from a federal reservoir on federal land, and watch them move.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 7/8/2015 @ 4:35 pmYou’re right, Stece57, and that isn’t being picky. I meant to say national lands, not national parks. Thank you for catching that.
DRJ (1dff03) — 7/8/2015 @ 5:29 pmJust a follow-up to my comment @64. Here’s a link to Judge Hanen’s order:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/270843796/Hanen-Order-July-7
It’s even better than I thought. Not only must the government explain how it happened that they violated Hanen’s injunction 2,000 times, the government has to fix those 2,000 violations. Which I presume means depriving them of whatever paperwork that grants them illegal benefits.
That, I do not believe the government can do by 31 July.
I’m not hijacking the thread. The feds bear plenty of responsibility in this as well, and I’d love to see Jeh Johnson and his partners in crime frog-marched into the local lock-up in Brownsville for dismantling immigration law enforcement.
I’d also love to see the same thing happen to the mayor, police chief, and supervisors of the city and county of SF, but this at least is a start.
Steve57 (4c9797) — 7/8/2015 @ 5:32 pmSteve–
I will bet that Jeh doesn’t show up, based on his godhood, and if a warrant is issued the US marshals will not serve it.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 7/8/2015 @ 5:44 pmAlthough it would be fun to see a 20-person US Marshals SWAT team taking down Jeh in the middle of the night.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 7/8/2015 @ 5:46 pmKevin, Judge Hanen is under no illusions about the lawlessness of the Obama crime syndicate. He knows that when I use the words crime syndicate I’m being scrupulously accurate. Because he’s had occasion to describe this cabal as just such an entity.
I’m sure he has a plan B in case Jeh Johnson and gang act true to form.
Steve57 (4c9797) — 7/8/2015 @ 6:23 pmconcerning the firearm,
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 7/8/2015 @ 7:05 pmI would like someone to say at a press conference,
“When you make up the final version of your story, can you let us know?”
yes, that’s awfully convenient isn’t it,
narciso (ee1f88) — 7/8/2015 @ 7:09 pmMy denunciation of Francisco Sanchez (#s 4/39/42) was based on early reports that he shot Kathryn Steinle 3 times. Now, the reports indicate only one shot. If so, that introduces a element of caution against premature conclusions. It’s entirely possible that Sanchez isn’t quite the callous monster I initially thought.
Surely, he’s a repeat offender and should never have been set free in San Francisco, but he may not deserve the condemnation I heaped on him.
ropelight (b5f8ba) — 7/9/2015 @ 9:19 amSomething’s bothering me. Sanchez didn’t voluntarily come to San Francisco. As I understand it he was already in federal custody and was inexplicably transferred to SF to answer for a decade old minor marijuana offense. That’s what bothers me. Why? Why go after him for a throw away charge?
Sanchez was already in federal custody, in SF minor pot offenses don’t usually merit much if any official notice. It makes no sense to go to the time and expense of transferring a repeat offender, like Sanchez, to a sanctuary city (or anywhere for that matter) to answer for an infraction no one cares about especially while he’s already on the hook for multiple felonies.
Factor in the SF authorities let him go free even though the feds requested he be held for pick-up. I smell a rat. Could it be setting an illegal alien free was the hidden agenda all along? And, if he hadn’t shot Kathryn Steinly he’d be free as a bird right now, and we wouldn’t be any the wiser.
ropelight (b5f8ba) — 7/9/2015 @ 5:30 pmThe article says that the agent in question was a ranger, but are handguns really effective against bears?
JVW (2d4b57) — 7/8/2015 @ 11:59 am
Very effective they are! Shoot whoever is with you, you must for them to be effective!
Yoda (7d462a) — 7/9/2015 @ 11:05 pm