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6/17/2015

Will The Kangaroo Gets Its Day In Court?

Filed under: General — Dana @ 7:44 am



[guest post by Dana]

Animal discrimination is a real thing. Because not all animals are not equal:

The Beaver Dam Common Council has voted to not allow kangaroos as service animals in public establishments, according to the Daily Citizen.

The council voted 14-0 to approve an amendment to their municipal code that redefines a service animal as a dog or miniature horse and that individuals need a doctor’s note to prove it.

Police will now have the ability to issue a citation to residents who do not abide my the new regulations.

This is what forced the issue to a vote:

Beaver Dam police say the woman wrapped the baby kangaroo in a blanket and tucked it in an infant car seat, then took it inside a McDonald’s in February. The woman has said the kangaroo is a therapy animal to help her cope with emotional distress.

City Attorney Maryann Schacht says the changes comply with the Americans with Disabilities Act.

Is there a kangaroo court in the future of this woman and her little friend? After all, what exactly does kangaroo mean? It’s just an assigned name given to one that cannot even defend itself and explain why it should indeed be considered a service animal. That is, if it’s even an animal. Who are you to judge?

–Dana

29 Responses to “Will The Kangaroo Gets Its Day In Court?”

  1. Hello.

    Dana (86e864)

  2. Rabbit Owl and Piglet are pretty anxious to see how this turns out

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  3. Did you ever read “Children of Men” by PD James? A dystopian view of the future, which apparently is now, where the infertile push kittens or puppies (or kangaroos) around in prams pretending they are babies. This is what we’ve come to. The left has almost destroyed the family and procreation, and the pet mania of today is what we have left.

    Patricia (5fc097)

  4. Greetings:

    Of course and as the way things so in our 21st Century, those referenced “doctor’s notes” will have all the validity of those “medical marijuana cards” which preceded them.

    I live in the San Francisco Bay area and there is some kind of similar civil disobedience campaign going on in regard to bringing dogs into stores that sell food which I understand to still be technically illegal. Apparently, “service” and “therapy” are the most often proffered justifications but always without any kind of actual documentary proof. Former hunter that I am, I’ve notice certain trends in the new practices. Apparently, size matters in a reverse kind of way. If a dog is below a certain size, it no longer is a dog legal-wise. Also, if the canine is carried, then not a dog-dog. Lastly if the companion animal guardian is Asian-looking, doggie is not a doggie, although if I were even mistakable for a dog, I don’t think that I would want an Asian (even-looking) companion animal guardian.

    11B40 (6abb5c)

  5. What about my therapy wolverine? It makes me feel so much better when it tears into small children. Who are you to judge?

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  6. This is a dog whistle to David Petranos Esq and MKD to rage about their service horse, beef slicers, frogmen assassins, and other such awesomeness.

    JD (0adf6d)

  7. of course this is how the original planet of the apes, started out, after the dog bonfires,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  8. How do I get a doctor’s note for a miniature horse? I’d love to have one in my legal firm office.

    CrustyB (69f730)

  9. A service animal and a therapy animal are different, for what its worth, and I think a service animal like a seeing eye dog is different than a therapy animal to cuddle,
    how much different it is, and the legal differentiation, IDK.

    But I do know, that unless it is a wallaby and not a kangaroo, it will not stay cuddly nor defenseless for long…

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  10. Someone needs to explain to me the usual leftist bullsh!t that a therapy or service dog in my restaurant is somehow clean but any other dog poses a health hazard. Or for that matter a pig, kangaroo or friggin’ wallaby. Why is it leftists can’t wait to pass a law to limit someone’s freedom then run around like chickens to find and hand out “exceptions” to their chosen victims and causes?

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  11. If you pay a psychologist enough, he will diagnose you with pre-traumatic stress disorder brought on by living in an oppressive patriarchy which can be ameliorated (but not cured because that means the end of his fees too) only by a pot-bellied pig named Cuddles being with you everywhere you go and an airline has to let you bring him into the cabin with you. FirstFat World problems.

    nk (9faaca)

  12. Is there such a thing as medical heroin?

    Pious Agnostic (7eb3b0)

  13. probably not in failmerica but in less gay countries i think it’s a thing

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  14. I think this woman has every right to be hopping mad; I hope she gets her day in kangaroo court.

    John Cunningham (9f3ba7)

  15. Sign seen in a restaurant near New Hope, PA;

    YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE

    No, your purse-rat is not a “service animal”.
    You know this. We know this.
    As the law stands, we can’t do anything about you and your yapping little rodent,
    but don’t kid yourself. You aren’t “Standing up for your rights”, you are undermining the rights of people who actually need seeing eye dogs and the like.

    Please, take offense and boycott us.

    C. S. P. Schofield (a196fd)

  16. That’s not a kangaroo, this is a kangaroo.

    What you’ve got there, is a wallaby.

    Craig Mc (3dc0bf)

  17. That’s not a kangaroo, this is a kangaroo.

    What you’ve got there, is a wallaby. They’re cute and harmless. Kangaroos are not.

    Craig Mc (3dc0bf)

  18. #10, it’s not the cleanliness of the animal I’d worry about, it’s the cleanliness of the needy owner.

    GKH (1943bf)

  19. A service animal and a therapy animal are different, for what its worth, and I think a service animal like a seeing eye dog is different than a therapy animal to cuddle,
    how much different it is, and the legal differentiation, IDK.

    MD,

    In the articles I read about the kangaroo, the terms service animal and therapy animal, at least in this issue, are being used interchangeably.

    Here are the two definitions:

    Service Animals:

    Service animals are defined as dogs that are individually trained to do work or perform tasks for people with disabilities. Examples of such work or tasks include guiding people who are blind, alerting people who are deaf, pulling a wheelchair, alerting and protecting a person who is having a seizure, reminding a person with mental illness to take prescribed medications, calming a person with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) during an anxiety attack, or performing other duties. Service animals are working animals, not pets. The work or task a dog has been trained to provide must be directly related to the person’s disability. Dogs whose sole function is to provide comfort or emotional support do not qualify as service animals under the ADA.


    Some State and local laws also define service animal more broadly than the ADA does.

    Therapy Animals:

    The differences between Service Dogs and Therapy Dogs are very noticeable from the perspectives of services provided and legal perspectives. The terms, ‘Service Dog,’ and, ‘Therapy Dog,’ are not meant to used as equivalents and should not be used to mean the same thing; they are not. According to Federal Law, a Service Animal is not a pet. The Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) states that a Service Animal is any animal that has been individually trained to provide assistance or perform tasks for the benefit of a person with a physical or mental disability which substantially limits one or more of the person’s major life functions. In addition, a number of states in America have laws following Federal Law in greater detail.

    A Therapy Dog is one that is trained to provide comfort and affection to people in long-term care, hospitals, retirement homes, schools, mental health institutions, and other stressful situations to include disaster areas. Therapy Dogs provide people with animal contact; people who may or may not have a form of disability. Therapy Dogs work in animal-assisted activities and animal-assisted therapy. The dog is commonly owned by the person handling it, who considers the dog to be a personal pet.

    Also, “It is very important to remember that Therapy Dogs do not have the same rights as handlers of Service Dogs. Handlers of Service Dogs are protected under the ADA because of the disability the handler experiences. The distinction is highly-important, and there should be no misunderstanding that it is the Person with a Disability who is the handler of the Service Dog that has rights under the ADA; not the dog. The Service Dog is allowed access based upon the rights of the person with a disability.”

    I could not find anything, anywhere about kangaroos.

    Dana (86e864)

  20. JD @ 6,

    Perish the thought.

    Dana (86e864)

  21. Dana, you can’t fool me. I am begging. Pleading.

    JD (3b5483)

  22. Ugh. Double ugh.

    Dana (86e864)

  23. Dana (86e864) — 6/17/2015 @ 5:33 pm

    thanks for looking up the info,
    yes, that was my point, that in the bit you quoted they referred to the creature as a “service animal”, which as I understand it means an animal that makes up for a disability to function, like a seeing eye dog.
    Not to minimize the importance of therapy animals for those who benefit from them, but there is a difference.

    Someday everybody may have a baby kangaroo, but they still can’t take it into a restaurant (Well, maybe Outback will ok it).
    You need to get to/jump to 1:04
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltG37Bbx1qk

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  24. Oh wow, MD, I haven’t seen or thought about Veggie Tales since my kids were little!

    Dana (86e864)

  25. What you’ve got there, is a wallaby. They’re cute and harmless. Kangaroos are not.

    Tie that kangaroo down, sport.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  26. Kangaroos are T-Rex deer.

    nk (9faaca)

  27. The Philly Zoo once had an exhibit called the “Wallaby Walkabout”. While the entire area was enclosed, there was no fence separating the wallabies from people walking through (on the path). Our daughter must have been about 18mo- 2yrs at the time. She was a little apprehensive being eye-to-eye with the critters.

    years ago I knew a fellow from Australia who told of the time he was out jogging early one morning in a park when he heard footsteps of “another jogger” gaining on him. When he caught up to him the fellow turned his head to look and found himself looking into the face of a kangaroo looking back at him. After a few strides together the kangaroo sauntered on ahead.
    The same fellow also told of an incident sitting at a picnic table eating when the head of a rhea (yes, attached to the neck and body) came flying over his shoulder to steal his potato chips.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  28. Under Title III of the ADA, you do not have to have a doctor’s note to show/proof/demonstrate that you require a service animal (dog or miniature horse, only). In fact the public accommodation is only permitted to ask: (1) is the dog/miniature horse a service animal required because of a disability, and (2) what work or task has the dog/miniature horse been trained to perform.

    That is all they are permitted to ask. The Beaver Dam Common Council has overreached with its authority.

    http://www.ada.gov/service_animals_2010.htm

    Lorem Ipsum (cee048)


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