What the Left Is Saying About Hillary!
[guest post by JVW]
I always find it interesting when a Democrat politician is caught up in a scandal of some sorts to see how he or she is treated by media outlets that are otherwise generally supportive of that politician’s agenda. Hillary! is the quintessential front-runner whose support is a mile wide but an inch deep, so it’s not too hard to envision her support among the leftist media crumbling rather quickly as they come to understand the level of toxicity her candidacy brings. So with that, here’s a quick round up of how her recent email scandal is being viewed on the left:
The New Republic: “The story of Clinton’s private email and server has no woman angle, but that didn’t stop Clinton from trying to create one, and reporters and detractors from seeing one. Both supporters and critics will see everything about Clinton’s probable presidential candidacy through the lens of her gender.”
The Washington Post Editorial Board: “In the end, it is clear Ms. Clinton was acting in a gray zone, one created in part by the rapid pace of technological change. But it is also apparent that her decisions on her e-mail were based on what was best for her — what was ‘convenient’— and not so much for the public trust.”
Mother Jones: “The Clinton camp’s handling of the controversy was a sign that Hillary and her gang are stuck in the Whitewaterish 1990s when it comes to communications strategy, relying on always-be-combating tactics predicated on self-perceived persecution.”
The Nation*: “The Clinton machine’s real target audience, I suspect, are the media pundits and political reporters who will cover the next campaign and inevitably shrink the terms of debate by reducing the substance to a handful of insipid, shorthand clichés.”
Any Democrat who wants to be President one day but was going to sit out 2016 because the nomination belongs to Hillary! is too stupid to ever hold public office.
– JVW
* The Nation article, written by William Grieder and posted on March 10, makes no mention of Hillary!’s email kerfuffle. Instead, it focuses on her phony populism and suggests that she will happily abandon her newly-found concern about “income inequality” if she makes it to the White House. It doesn’t appear that anyone at The Nation has addressed Hillary!’s email woes as of this writing.
I wanted to provide a representation from the full spectrum of the left, from the center-left like TNR and (at least recently) the Washington Post editorial board to the more rabid leftists at Mother Jones and The Nation. I am not willing to read editorials from the idiot crew at the LA Times or NY Times, nor will I visit Daily Kos or any of those other brain-deadening sites.
JVW (c7473b) — 3/11/2015 @ 2:34 pmslogging thru the fever swamps so that we won’t have to. Now that’s a public service!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/11/2015 @ 2:41 pmOK, I took a quick peek over at the NYT and LAT. Neither paper’s editorial board has weighed in yet. Some of the columnists (Frank Bruni, Doyle McManus) have opinion pieces up, but they seem to be repeating the same things that TNR and Mother Jones already wrote.
JVW (c7473b) — 3/11/2015 @ 2:42 pmIf the opinion-makers on the left abandon Hillary! will the money-people be far behind, or are they already too deeply committed?
JVW (c7473b) — 3/11/2015 @ 2:47 pmthis one is for nk… http://t.co/T3oA5gXWj8
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/11/2015 @ 2:48 pmthe WAPost bending over way too much.
seeRpea (181740) — 3/11/2015 @ 2:50 pmI also want to note the technology had changed considerably by 2010. There should have a process in place to review all such arrangements.
anybody here remember when Donnesbury was funny? if so,
🙂
seeRpea (181740) — 3/11/2015 @ 2:52 pmLet the record reflect that Hillary! toilet flushed the Ambassador to Kenya for using two different devices, one for the official State business, and one for personal use.
Inconvenienced Ambassador Scott Gration right out of business.
Gration corrected the record five days ago.
As has been noted before none of Hillary!s emails were captured in the State Department data bases. NONE. As in NOT EVEN ONE.
She claimed the emails were captured by the government in her UN statement.
Pretty big lie. I’d put it up above “sent email to Bill” or “I wanted to use just one device”.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 3/11/2015 @ 3:11 pmDaily KOS apparently is Hades-bent for Hillary.
Only front page mention is a link to this cartoon
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/03/11/1370074/-Cartoon-About-the-Hillary-Clinton-thing
The leading “diary” entry sticks to the formula outlined in the first frame of the cartoon. KOS is too interested in denouncing the senatorial letter to bother about Hillary.
kishnevi (91d5c6) — 3/11/2015 @ 3:19 pmI think Hillary showed up for their Daily Kos convention dressed as a Senator, so they’ll Ben Dover to kiss her Axelrod.
Even if it meant the end of every life on Earth.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 3/11/2015 @ 3:53 pmThe Left, broadly speaking, does not like the Clintons. Then-Governor Bill Clinton was a southern conservative who wanted to reform the Democratic party to reduce the power of the left in order to win elections. He ran against the left, and adopted policies that kicked the left in the teeth, and the left has never forgiven him for it.
Former Senator Clinton is the *establishment Democrat* candidate, not the Left’s candidate.
aphrael (34edde) — 3/11/2015 @ 3:58 pmAlso, the press – who are distinct from the activist left – don’t like the Clintons because of the way the Clintons treated the press, and because of what they know (from being the press) of the dysfunction of both the family and the administration.
aphrael (34edde) — 3/11/2015 @ 4:01 pmAphrael – Obama treats the press like his little b@tches as well, why the difference?
JD (86a5eb) — 3/11/2015 @ 4:11 pmMother Jones is in the same league as the LA Times or NY Times.
Dejectedhead (81690d) — 3/11/2015 @ 4:22 pmJD – I’m not close enough to the press to be able to answer that question, and the retrospectives haven’t come out yet.
aphrael (34edde) — 3/11/2015 @ 4:33 pmThe Left, broadly speaking, does not like the Clintons. Then-Governor Bill Clinton was a southern conservative who wanted to reform the Democratic party to reduce the power of the left in order to win elections. He ran against the left, and adopted policies that kicked the left in the teeth, and the left has never forgiven him for it.
Former Senator Clinton is the *establishment Democrat* candidate, not the Left’s candidate.
aphrael (34edde) — 3/11/2015 @ 3:58 pm
Bill Clinton a “Southern conservative”? Compared to who/what? That is laughable. He may be a little less a lefty than let’s say, Elizabeth Warren, but that’s far from conservative. He was pretty much forced to knuckle under to the Republican-controlled Congress, the only reason he implemented some of their objectives. He may have been pragmatic, but his instincts are pure leftwing.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/11/2015 @ 4:51 pmIn the interest of complete accuracy, if we were to draw a Venn diagram there’d be quite a large group of people contained in the intersection of “press” and “activist left.”
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/occupy-wall-street-new-york-242872
Natasha Lennard wasn’t just a stringer covering OWS for the NYT.
She was also an OWS organizer.
http://www.mrc.org/articles/nyts-ows-reporter-talks-shop-radical-supporters-pot-shots-police
Steve57 (d68bce) — 3/11/2015 @ 4:55 pmAbout a month ago on Facebook, I wrote a post in which I said, “Don’t think that 2016 is all wrapped up — Hillary gets the nomination and wins the election. Somehow, this smells like February 1991, when GHWB had 90% approval and no one wanted to run on the Democratic ticket — except for Bill Clinton.” Of course, Clinton had the advantage of having Ross Perot siphon off nearly 20% of the national vote, but it was still an unexpected result.
Given how poorly HRC performed in 2008, and given the buyer’s remorse that I suspect a lot of independents feel for having voted for Obama in 2012, I think HRC is toast.
By the way, my co-blogger Bruce Henderson and I have been doing technical analysis of the whole Clinton e-mail issue for a week (both ABC and Fox called me a week ago and got me digging into it); here are all our posts to date: http://andstillipersist.com/category/clinton-e-mails/
bfwebster (fb2827) — 3/11/2015 @ 5:11 pmThe Left, broadly speaking, does not like the Clintons.
“The Left” doesn’t like Bill Clinton in the same way that “the Right” doesn’t like Jeb Bush. That said, the Left has processed enough of Saul Alinsky to understand that a Clinton is far preferable to them than any Republican. Hillary!’s natural constituency consists of women born before 1975 who have embraced the feminist theory that they learned freshman year at college, but reject the Marxism underpinnings of feminists like Katha Pollit or Andrea Dworkin. In other words, they want all of the attitude and self-righteousness of feminism, but they also want to make huge salaries in law, entertainment, business, or government without having to feel guilty about it. It’s not a huge faction, but it’s enough of a bandwagon that thus far it seems to have attracted most of the traditional Democrat coalition such as minorities, gays, labor, government workers, and people who rely upon government transfer programs. If she’s the nominee, they’ll crank up the get-out-the-vote machine for her, though it remains to be seen how effective it will be in the post-Obama era.
JVW (854318) — 3/11/2015 @ 5:15 pmHillary Clinton is inevitable in 2016, just like she was in 2008.
The historian Dana (1b79fa) — 3/11/2015 @ 5:27 pmOK, OK, time for a really bad joke:
What do you get when you drop a piano down a mine shaft?
The comedian Dana (1b79fa) — 3/11/2015 @ 5:32 pmWait for it . . .
The patient Dana (1b79fa) — 3/11/2015 @ 5:33 pmWait for it . . .
The very patient Dana (1b79fa) — 3/11/2015 @ 5:33 pmA flat miner!
The Dana who should be denounced for this joke! (1b79fa) — 3/11/2015 @ 5:33 pmGee, you’d have to be sharp to get this joke, Dana. It sounds pretty deep.
nk (dbc370) — 3/11/2015 @ 5:41 pmI think I asked this somewhere but did not see a response (please forgive if someone did and I missed it).
There was the revelation that after many months of waiting for the State dept to turn over relevant emails to the Benghazi investigation committee they learned that “oh, by the way, we don’t have them because she had her own server”.
Gowdy: What?!?!?! Why didn’t you tell us before?
State Dept: You never asked…
If that happened in a civil or criminal case before a judge, would people smirk at that as being clever lawyering,
MD in Philly (not in Philly at the moment) (deca84) — 3/11/2015 @ 5:43 pmor would the judge get irate over wasting his and others time?
As one who frequently holds my nose and wades into the fever swamps I can say that both The Nation and Mother Jones are definitely at the Fauxchahontas end of the prog spectrum. I would expect them to be significantly harder on Hillary! than say, Kos. I did find this post over at Talking Points Memo written by Josh Marshall. He likes the Clintons. But he understands them too. And while he is hopeful, he is definitely struggling with this latest “classic Clinton” scandal.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-joy-and-the-drama
elissa (e79aa2) — 3/11/2015 @ 5:51 pmGuilty, Guilty, Guilty
“The President is smarter than you think!”
Kevin M (25bbee) — 3/11/2015 @ 5:52 pmNeither, really. You ask a record keeper for records in his possession and control, he gives yoy what he has. You may already know or suspect, or find out in the course of dsicovery, that there are others, so you widen your net.
I’d make a discovery request to the prosecutor; and also send a subpoena to the police department for its file, parts of which may not have made it into the prosecutor’s file; and still knew that in Chicago the various officers’ notebooks and field cards never even got into the police file — they stayed in coat pockets and desk drawers.
nk (dbc370) — 3/11/2015 @ 5:58 pmcorn, at the Mother Jones, does a lot of squirrel, begging the question about Hillary’s status by marriage, yelling Rove, and other such tricks,
narciso (ee1f88) — 3/11/2015 @ 6:07 pmnk,
thanks,
but, if someone knew there was a major file sitting on desk “A” and just ignored that info, that would be seen as OK?
Sounds like an effort to keep lawyers and their secretaries with plenty of billable hours.
Can you see a doc’s office run that way, “oh, yeah, I guess there was an xray report in the “in” box”.
The lawyer would advise settling.
I think it is a very dishonest and deplorable way to do things. I wouldn’t want my daughter to marry anyone who pulled such stunts.
MD in Philly (not in Philly at the moment) (deca84) — 3/11/2015 @ 6:09 pmi wonder if she’s happy. She doesn’t seem like a happy person.
does she like butter tarts
happyfeet (831175) — 3/11/2015 @ 6:16 pmMrs. Scott Beauchamp, also misdirects, at the former New Republic, the Turkish press have been taught to fetch, almost instinctively,
narciso (ee1f88) — 3/11/2015 @ 6:16 pmBob, who is certifiably old, old, old, remembers a time when Doonesbury was worth scanning.
And I still remember Hillary!’s first (to my limited knowledge) adventure that threatened her with a felony: One week of commodities trading that turned $5K into $100K. She explained this almost impossible result by saying that she’d read the WSJ that week, and it wasn’t any big deal.
Winston came to America in 1931 and spent a day “playing” the market. He did it on his host’s account. The broker who was his host instructed his agents to submit a buy order whenever Winston sold, and vice versa. At the end of the day, Winston had lost a fortune, which was a catastrophe since he was touring America on a speaking engagement to raise money. Once the broker established that Winston was suitably embarrassed, he told him not to worry, the whole thing was a wash, and he owed nothing.
When Winston returned to England, after recovering from being struck by an automobile (he looked the “wrong” way when crossing a street) his friend chipped in and bought him a nice car, and his fees from his speaking engagements were substantial. So all ended well.
bobathome (ef0d3a) — 3/11/2015 @ 6:17 pmwhen was that the Raoul Duke period, it was ha ha,
narciso (ee1f88) — 3/11/2015 @ 6:23 pmred squaw hording the wampum:
http://legalinsurrection.com/2015/03/liz-warren-still-running-from-the-press/
narciso (ee1f88) — 3/11/2015 @ 6:24 pmThere’s sentiment building in the Dem party to have someone other than Hillary, but there’s no obvious alternative like Obama to coalesce around. Besides getting the blacks, he created this delusional aura of technocratic competence around himself, which attracted well off white voters, and he got the far left wing of the party of course. That’s three large segments of the Dem vote. And youth flocked to him because of the cool factor. Someone who could repeat that scenario would beat her, but there’s no obvious person at the moment. So despite the growing “Anyone but Hillary” vibe, she still has to be seen as almost inevitable.
Gerald A (6b504a) — 3/11/2015 @ 6:26 pmMD, 31. Prosecutors have an affirmative duty not to be willfully blind; convictions have been overturned when they have been caught doing that. There have been lawsuits against the Chicago Police Department settled with promises to make the detectives turn in their field cards. But it’s hard to really go after a records clerk who, at best, is considered to be doing her job properly if she does not file everything under “S” for “Stuff”. The right way to do it is to be a detective and dig, dig, dig, both through process and footwork.
I’ve used FOIAs. They’re just the beginning, and there’s kind of an art to them. One time, an Assistant U.S. Attorney walked up when I was at City Hall digging up old records. He had a subpoena and was very arrogant — demanding immediate service. The clerk gave him short shrift. To make a long story short, I got what I was after and he got a lesson on the right way to ask for things from petty bureaucrats.
nk (dbc370) — 3/11/2015 @ 6:44 pmwe all saw Presumed Innocent, it seems Chitown is much like Gotham,
narciso (ee1f88) — 3/11/2015 @ 6:46 pmScott Turow is from Chicago, narciso, and he worked there as an Assistant U.S. Attorney, including the prosecution of high-profile official corruption cases. The New York setting was to protect the …. 😉
nk (dbc370) — 3/11/2015 @ 6:53 pmlook Janet Reno was from here, and she was the Southern Coakley with all that entails,
narciso (ee1f88) — 3/11/2015 @ 6:57 pmSo despite the growing “Anyone but Hillary” vibe, she still has to be seen as almost inevitable.
I wonder if she and enough of the US’s electorate are going to be analogous to Argentina’s horrible, ultra-liberal (and very corrupt) Cristina Kirchner and her foolish fellow Argentinians or France’s horrible, ultra-liberal Francois Hollande and his foolish fellow French (or “frogs”).
I grimace at the thought, but the 21st century does seem to have an increasingly and oddly idiotic tinge about it, full of two-faced political correctness. An era doused with a lot of “champagne socialist” lunacy—compared with the Iron-Curtain “Commie” quality of the second half of the 20th century, still fully evident in Cuba or, worse of all and of course, North Korea.
Mark (c160ec) — 3/11/2015 @ 7:01 pmThat’s some wishful thinkin’, but I like it. From your keyboard to God’s ear.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 3/11/2015 @ 7:03 pmthis was just brought up by megyn:
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/415239/did-hillary-clinton-commit-crime-part-ii-shannen-w-coffin
narciso (ee1f88) — 3/11/2015 @ 7:04 pmIt boils down to this.
kishnevi (adea75) — 3/11/2015 @ 7:14 pmThe biggest reason not to vote for HRC is HRC.
Colonel Haiku, Clinton was the Chairman of the Democratic Leadership Council, an entity within the Democratic party who responded to the 1984 election by arguing that the party, as a whole, had drifted too far to the left in the years since 1968 and that it needed to move back to the center on social issues and adopt non-bureaucratic, market-based solutions to meet progressive ends.
They were basically saying to the left: “the Democratic party has been losing continuously since 1968 *because of you and your political positions*, and the Democratic party needs to repudiate you to win.”
From the outside, Clinton may look like a leftist. That’s not how he looked to the left.
aphrael (34edde) — 3/11/2015 @ 9:36 pmJVW, I think Jeb Bush is a good analogy. I think you’re right that the Left will mostly hold its nose and vote for Clinton if she’s the nominee – but the left would *really* prefer that she not be the nominee.
(I’d prefer that she not be the nominee, but not for the same reasons – I have major problems with the spouse of a former President running for the Presidency. This is *the explicit reason* why I voted against her in the primary in 2008, and in seven years nothing has shifted my view on the subject).
aphrael (34edde) — 3/11/2015 @ 9:38 pmAphrael, Clinton is a pragmatist and values winning more than anything. I’m well aware of his triangulation strategy, but don’t even try to sell that he’s a conservative, that dog don’t hunt.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/11/2015 @ 9:48 pmColonel Haiku, to an optimist a realist looks like a pessimist.
aphrael (34edde) — 3/11/2015 @ 9:49 pmI mean: imagine a Republican candidate who were saying “liberalism is the way of the future! to win elections we must be more liberal and abandon the conservative philosophies that are costing us elections.” To *you*, that Republican would look like a liberal. But to a liberal, he probably wouldn’t.
Same thing for Clinton, only in reverse.
aphrael (34edde) — 3/11/2015 @ 9:53 pmAnd the clinically insane rarely self-diagnose, aphrael.
And never forget to remember, wherever you go, there you are.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/11/2015 @ 9:54 pmSquishy DINOs. Just kidding. aphrael is right. Reagan scared the pants off of them, and Dukakis put the seal on it. But they only had to lay low and the Shrub handed them back the Presidency gift-wrapped.
nk (dbc370) — 3/11/2015 @ 10:06 pmAll I know is that a woman who allowed her husband without repercussions to take advantage of a female intern is not exactly the most pro-feminist candidate in the running.
This is not rocket science.
Ag80 (eb6ffa) — 3/11/2015 @ 11:03 pmPerhaps she was just obeying the law against murder?
htom (4ca1fa) — 3/11/2015 @ 11:14 pmaphrael, the thing I recall about the democratic leadership council is that it was explicitly about winning power. Changing principles for power is populism and in a literal way, very democratic, so it’s not inappropriate for the democratic party. But I think it’s bad for the country that both parties do this.
We’ve reached a point where solutions are badly needed, specifically on spending, but fixing that means being responsible in the face of temptation. Namely, the temptation to give people money in exchange for their support. Neither party will do it, and everyone will suffer for it.
I am sure to liberals, that’s frustrating just as I’m frustrated by Republicans who increase spending and waffle on every policy. This country is better than that, and eventually we’re going to have to come up with a political party that stands for something beyond winning.
Dustin (2a8be7) — 3/11/2015 @ 11:18 pmO/T….Two police officers shot outside the Ferguson PD building at approx 03/12/0100 (FoxNews).
askeptic (efcf22) — 3/11/2015 @ 11:31 pmI’m sure that Holder & Co. will take full responsibility for upsetting the community.
That’s awful. That community is going to have a hard time keeping good enforcement. Those who are still there are being pretty amazing in my book.
Dustin (2a8be7) — 3/11/2015 @ 11:45 pmEvidently there was a two-hour – mostly peaceful – demonstration in front of the PD that led up to this situation.
askeptic (efcf22) — 3/11/2015 @ 11:51 pmI just caught a brief alert on the 11pm (PT) repeat of Greta’s show as I was “signing off” for the evening, and it was sparse on details.
And now, off to bed.
looks like drudge dropped the ball on this ferguson thing so far
that hardly ever happens
happyfeet (831175) — 3/12/2015 @ 1:42 amDustin – of course the DLC was about power. But from the left’s perspective, the DLC was about obtaining power *by repudiating them*. That hardly endeared leftists to the DLC.
aphrael (34edde) — 3/12/2015 @ 5:08 amaphrael – claiming to repudiate them, and then advancing their issues once in office. Exact opposite of what Team R does. I would prefer the former.
JD (86a5eb) — 3/12/2015 @ 5:55 amSpot on. A leopard doesn’t change it’s spots.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/12/2015 @ 5:58 amI think at the next protest, the entire police force should resign and then demand volunteers from the crowd to sign up.
MD in Philly (not in Philly at the moment) (deca84) — 3/12/2015 @ 6:00 amThis is not rocket science.
Not only is the rocket a phallic symbol created by the patriarchy for the ritual rape of the Moon which has always symbolized femininity, it is also a subtle sexist slur that women are not capable of advanced science and technology. I denounce Ag80 for his war on women.
nk (dbc370) — 3/12/2015 @ 6:03 amA real bunch of bad people in Ferguson… reaping what the DOJ has sown… http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/03/12/protester-taunts-cops-after-two-police-officers-shot-in-ferguson/
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/12/2015 @ 6:05 amaphrael, I know you’re young but since you brought up that era do you have any thoughts or comments on this revelation out of the opened KGB files that in 1983 Sen. Ted Kennedy (via his close friend former Senator Tunney) directly contacted and tried to use the Soviet Union to thwart Reagan’s cold war foreign policy and influence the 1984 election?
http://www.forbes.com/2009/08/27/ted-kennedy-soviet-union-ronald-reagan-opinions-columnists-peter-robinson.html
elissa (252da0) — 3/12/2015 @ 6:05 amMD, they should call in sick but organize and protect the neighborhoods of the people who support them. Let the rest of the bitch burn.
nk (dbc370) — 3/12/2015 @ 6:06 amyou really jumped the cow with that one, nk.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/12/2015 @ 6:06 amanother stain on her pantsuit… http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2561407
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/12/2015 @ 6:15 amAg80 wrote:
Bill and Hillary Clinton are the perfect, perfect! couple: both are pathological liars. They know what each other is, and set their expectations accordingly.
The Dana who can see the truth (f6a568) — 3/12/2015 @ 6:16 amAskeptic wrote:
Other than that, Mrs Kennedy, how was Dallas?
The sarcastic Dana (f6a568) — 3/12/2015 @ 6:17 amThe rocket science or the bitch burn, Haiku?
nk (dbc370) — 3/12/2015 @ 6:27 amthe entire enchilada, nk. You jumped the cow what jumped over teh Moon.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/12/2015 @ 6:35 amI’m in kind of an altered state on account I found that Keebler markets the Girl Scout Samoas, commercially, in grocery stores, as Fudge Shoppe Coconut Dreams.
nk (dbc370) — 3/12/2015 @ 6:41 amBlood Sugar Alert!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/12/2015 @ 6:44 amAnd my local Jewel has boneless ribs at $3.49/lb so I can make my own McRibs.
nk (dbc370) — 3/12/2015 @ 6:47 amI wonder if the good people of America will pass the plate to rebuild Ferguson’s cupcake shop a second time?
papertiger (c2d6da) — 3/12/2015 @ 6:54 amBut you’ll never make a decent homebrew McTofu burger.
Which part of the soy do you tug to get the milk to come out?
papertiger (c2d6da) — 3/12/2015 @ 6:59 amExactly, papertiger. We had a tagger in the neighborhood just a while back. The cops didn’t catch him. The neighbors did and held him for the cops. I want to see the “the good people” of Ferguson come out and counter-march against Obama’s sons. Then that city will be worth cops putting their lives on the line for.
nk (dbc370) — 3/12/2015 @ 7:00 amSoy? Animal feed is best when it’s reprocessed naturally into meat. By the animals.
nk (dbc370) — 3/12/2015 @ 7:05 am“boneless ribs”… where’s the crunch in that?
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/12/2015 @ 7:06 am‘the era of big government was over,’ but behind the scenes, Clinton ‘nudged’ the banks, into the subprime bubble, Cisneros and Cuomo did their part at HUS,
narciso (ee1f88) — 3/12/2015 @ 7:15 amI agree with The Dana who can see the truth. Hillary! is perfect for Billy Jeff. Recall that back in the ’70s Hillary! got a child rapist off the hook for a major felony by attacking the credibility of the 12y.o. victim.
This must have been good practice for later heading up the war room that dealt with Billy Jeff’s Bimbo Eruptions by attacking the credibility and assassinating the character of his victims.
I do want to nip one allegation against Hillary! in the bud right now; Hillary! was never fired by Jerry Zeifman, general counsel and chief of staff for the House Judiciary Committee who was heading the impeachment investigation and preparations against Richard Nixon, for lying and unethical conduct.
https://patterico.com/2008/02/06/jerry-zeifman-hillary-as-i-knew-her-in-1974/
That is a vicious reich-wing conservative LIE!
See, I’ve looked into it. Zeifman has said on numerous occasions that he would have fired Hillary! if he could have. When he evaluated her performance (as supervisors regularly do) he concluded she had lied and was unethical. Consequently he wanted to fire her, but he didn’t have the authority.
He was able to let her go when there was a general reduction in staff. And unlike all the other people he had to lay off, he refused to give Hillary! a recommendation whatsoever.
But he didn’t fire her because he couldn’t.
In today’s Democratic party the foregoing is what passes for a positive endorsement.
But one of the unethical acts Zeifman suspects Hillary! committed (there are many that he knows she committed) was this. Hillary! drafted a legal memorandum recommending that the committee deny Nixon the right to legal counsel. Zeifman informed her that went against precedent. The most recent impeachment procedures had been against Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas, and he informed Hillary! that the Douglas impeachment records were available for public inspection in his offices.
Subsequently somebody removed those records from the office of the general counsel where they were available to the public, and transferred them to the offices of the impeachment inquiry staff where they were no longer available to the public.
Does this remind anybody of anything? (Cough, cough, Casa Grande, cough, cough, Rose law firm billing records, cough, cough, private server, cough, cough.)
Yes, Hillary! and Billy Jeff were truly a match made in the cesspools of Hot Springs.
Steve57 (d68bce) — 3/12/2015 @ 8:16 ama friend of mine, represented the first Watergate witchhunt victim, steamrolled by the Special Prosecutor, who none the less had his conviction reversed on appeal
narciso (ee1f88) — 3/12/2015 @ 8:27 amthere’s an international edition of this sort of behavior:
http://qz.com/360769/its-time-for-italians-to-forget-about-silvio-berlusconi/
he’s a warlock, so he must burn, even if he floats.
narciso (ee1f88) — 3/12/2015 @ 8:30 amSteve57 @83 – That comment is a likely violation of the Logan Act. You have been warned.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 3/12/2015 @ 8:54 amMy dinner last night was a likely violation of the Logan Act, but I am hereby self-reporting in the hope for leniency.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 3/12/2015 @ 8:57 amI’m a traitor, daley. Like Ted Cruz, who committed the treasonous act of disparaging our tax system.
From the scripture according to the Letters of the WaPo Subscribers:
I have blasphemed. I will repent, and throw myself on the mercy of the prophets such as Olivia LaRosa. I will not follow false prophets like Ted Cruz.
Only the true prophets like Olivia LaRosa can relieve me of the burden of tax arrearages!
But only after I go to my local IRS office and partake in the holy sacrament of the wealth redistribution.
Obama forgive me!
Steve57 (d68bce) — 3/12/2015 @ 9:10 amThey may let you off with only a six figure fine and a short prison sentence.
Me? I doubt I’ll be so lucky. My dinner last night was undoubtedly a violation of the Logan Act, but in all likelihood also a violation of the Lacey Act and, considering I destroyed the tangible evidence of my crimes by eating it, Sarbanes-Oxley.
Steve57 (d68bce) — 3/12/2015 @ 9:14 amre #74:
Relax. They aren’t the same. same bakery but not same ingredients and not same ratio.
seeRpea (b6bbec) — 3/12/2015 @ 9:15 amit was a fish or seafood item,
narciso (ee1f88) — 3/12/2015 @ 9:18 amI’ve said enough about that, narcisso. Besides, I’ve got other problems with the feds.
It rained Tuesday and so I just got a letter from the EPA declaring my backyard a federally protected wetland. So I have to remove my tool shed and other improvements to the property or I’ll be racking up $28k/day in fines.
Steve57 (d68bce) — 3/12/2015 @ 9:28 amre #92: unfortunately, I can not tell if that was a joke or not 🙁
seeRpea (b6bbec) — 3/12/2015 @ 9:40 amMr 57, you just don’t understand. Hillary Clinton was a young lawyer, oppressed simply because she was a Woman in a Man’s profession, struggling mightily against Discrimination and Sexism, and thus, if there were any lapses in her judgement — and I’m not saying that there were — we must understand and forgive them.
Jerry Zeifman? He was a prejudiced male –and a Jooooo? — taking a biased judgement against an Empowered and Fearless Woman, and trying to preserve the Patriarchal Privilege.
The feminist Dana (f6a568) — 3/12/2015 @ 10:06 amAlternatively, Jerry Zeifman either discriminated against Hillary Clinton because:
Clearly, he was a sexist pig, and probably a raaaaacist to boot.
The snarkily feminist Dana (f6a568) — 3/12/2015 @ 10:11 amThat’s because for some people it’s not a joke.
http://rhic.physics.wayne.edu/~bellwied/sandiego06/sd3.jpg
A picture of Sandy Eggo Bay facing east from Coronado. See those mountains in the background? When I was working for a defense contractor one of my co-workers bought a parcel of land on the side of one of those mountains and tried to build a house.
Along the way the county declared his property a wetland. He had to prove the piece of land he had on the slope of his mountain was not, in fact, a lake.
They also declared it an archeological site. He had to prove it wasn’t an Indian burial ground.
I worked on the same project with the guy for two solid years. He had already bought the land and started jumping through regulatory hoops before I was assigned to that contract. When I left he still hadn’t even poured the foundation. The property was basically untouched.
He had spent all those years battling the county, state, and federal bureaucracy and their objections to him building on his property.
That reminds me; I just checked back with a blog started by a guy facing similar (but even worse) bureaucracy.
http://www.sloleaks.com/
I had been following this guy’s travails off and on. I hadn’t checked back for months. The latest and no doubt final news on his attempt to build on his property is horrible.
http://www.sloleaks.com/?m=201407
I am soooo glad I don’t live in Kali anymore.
Steve57 (d68bce) — 3/12/2015 @ 10:38 amSteve57 @83 about Hillary.
I think I should post something here from the Sammy Zone.
This is a post from my protoblog in 1994: (I am lesving in the typos, and only hiding a name)
Sammy Finkelman (302bdd) — 3/13/2015 @ 12:58 pmIs this the gift that keeps on giving?
http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2015/03/31/clinton-used-multiple-devices-email-mixed-business-personal-topics/
There is the possiblity that MSM is getting this story wrong.
seeRpea (181740) — 3/31/2015 @ 12:34 pm