Charlie Hebdo Killers in Hostage Situation
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Patterico (9c670f) — 1/9/2015 @ 7:52 amyou can tell they’re up to no good or why else would they take hostages
happyfeet (a037ad) — 1/9/2015 @ 7:55 amGrocery store hostage takers demand police back-off containment of Hebdo terrorists or hostages will be killed. Just now, explosions and attack on Hebdo compound underway. More explosions and gunfire in real time.
ropelight (7e0118) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:01 amI doubt the Hebdo gunmen have a hostage. The earlier report was that they chased people away saying “We don’t kill civilians”. It could be a dead person who fought back. News out of France is very untrustworthy.
nk (dbc370) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:08 amThis report says there are two hostage situations.
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2015/01/09/paris-terror-suspects-cornered-with-hostage-want-to-die-as-martyrs/
elissa (40c9e9) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:18 amKosher grocery store terrorists in Paris are threatening to kill their captives if police at Dammartin printing house surrounding Hebdo gunmen don’t back-off. Focus on grocery store now that assault on Hebdo terrorists is underway. Concern mounting for safety of Jewish grocery store patrons.
ropelight (7e0118) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:19 amthe two murderer brothers are dead.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:23 amKouache Bros Dead! Yay!!!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:24 amSky News reporting Explosions heard in central Paris. Several hostages escape grocery store. Reports that others may have also escaped from grocery store.
Also, additional reports that Hebdo terrorist brothers killed in Dammartin printing house.
ropelight (7e0118) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:25 amyes… confirming yes, ropelight… they. are. dead.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:28 amI blame global warming and the historical warlike expansionist policies of Christianity.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:31 amI blame smelly cheeses and a moronic death cult.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:33 amIt’s too early to open a bottle of champagne, but a dram of who shot John? may just fit the occasion.
ropelight (7e0118) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:34 amOn Thursday, U.S. President Barack Obama made an unannounced visit to the French Embassy in Washington to pay his respects.
He wrote in a condolence book, “As allies across the centuries, we stand united with our French brothers to ensure that justice is done and our way of life is defended. We go forward together knowing that terror is no match for freedom and ideals we stand for – ideals that light the world.”
elissa (40c9e9) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:36 amteh halal has-beens
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:38 amFrance must use Pershing Method
on porc-craignant mutts
Remember, France is a Gun Free Zone.
askeptic (efcf22) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:39 am14- Any idea who he cribbed that from?
askeptic (efcf22) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:40 amThere’a CBS News special report being broadcast now, both on televisons and simulcast on radio (880 AM in New York)
Both of he brothers are now dead. There is a lot of activity
The other hostage situation, in the kosher grocery, with the third man, is also over.
Sammy Finkelman (6b5229) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:41 amMy question is how far left must a liberal go before the media labels him or her “far left?” For instance, France’s current president is ideologically no less tilted to the left than Marine le Pen is tilted to the right. Yet, I’ve never seen any publication characterize France’s current president as “far left.”
“Far right” might have been more correctly descriptive in the context of over 50 to 70 years ago. But in today’s distorted, misshapen, Nidal-Hasan-ized socio-political climate, “far right” is increasingly in actuality closer to “centrist.”
Mark (c160ec) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:43 amthree muslim mutts down
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:45 amits gonna be a great day!
croissants for breakfast
Has Mayor de Blasio announced plans to attend the funerals for the Kouachi brothers? And if he does, will the French cops turn their backs on him too?
ropelight (7e0118) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:45 am11. daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:31 am
The New York Times has a front page story in which it says there is a debate in Egypt (the heart of the Islamic
world )
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/09/world/europe/raising-questions-within-islam-after-france-shooting.html
On the one hand, there is whhat President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi of Egypt said last week in a speech to the clerics of the official religious establishment: that they need to stand sternly and there needs to be a religious revolution.
Sammy Finkelman (6b5229) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:47 amMark, in contemporary media, there is no such thing as a Far Leftist, as the center-of-the-road is somewhere between Lenin and Trotsky.
askeptic (efcf22) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:48 amThey are trying to figure out how big this plot was.
Sammy Finkelman (6b5229) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:48 amHas the Times even reported on what el-Sisi said to the gathered Imams about Islam having a “Reformation”, or his attendance at the Coptic Christmas Mass?
askeptic (efcf22) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:51 amWas someone issuing the brothers orders? Or did they act on their own?
The big problem is the time gap between the time the older brother was in Yemen and now.
.
They are thinking this is maybe some mkind of a hybrid model.
CBS News is conforming that the hostage takers in BOTH situations are dead. The single hostage at the printing plant was relased and all of the hostages in the grocery are free. Both operations happened just about simultaneously (about an hour ago)
Sammy Finkelman (6b5229) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:52 amThey had access to the store’s security camera when planning the tactical assault.
Sammy Finkelman (6b5229) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:53 amThey decided to do this before nightfall.
Sammy Finkelman (6b5229) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:55 amThey called in the A Team.
It was a kosher deli, not a grocery.
Sammy Finkelman (6b5229) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:58 am“They argue that the authoritarian rulers of Arab states — who have tried for decades to control Muslim teaching and the application of Islamic law — have set off a violent backlash expressed in religious ideas and language.”
Sammy – Typical fuzzy headed reporting from the NY Times mixing ideas. You have had authoritarian rulers in Arab states who have not governed by Islamic law for years and years. Their overthrow and succession by authoritarian regimes governing by Islamic law is what has helped lead to the spread of Islamic extremism.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:58 amFOX is reporting the female terrorist, supposedly one of the hostage takers, is still alive and that contrary to previous reports she wasn’t involved in the kosher deli hostage taking even though she is wanted for involvement with yesterday’s murder of the female police officer.
ropelight (7e0118) — 1/9/2015 @ 9:00 amOr maybe it was a kosher market.
Flash ang grenades were thrown into the printing shop, and the two brothers came out fighting and were shot dead.
The assault on the kosher grocery or deli or market happened a few minutes later.
There are reports now that four hostages there were killed.
I wonder if some one thought it would be agood idea to get this over before Shabbos, or whether the light was a factor.
Sammy Finkelman (6b5229) — 1/9/2015 @ 9:03 am25. askeptic (efcf22) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:51 am
Not till yesterday, I think, and then only in an Associated Press article posted online:
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/01/08/world/middleeast/ap-ml-egypt-reforming-islam.html
It didn’t say whom he gave the speech to, until paragraph 10. The article says
So, it is nt just the 20th century, but hundreds of years. He might be going back to al-Ghazali (c. 1058–1111)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Ghazali
In print, there is no mention of a “reformation” till today’s article, I think, and the idea is attributed to
There is very little from the speech there.
That was in there, on page A6 Wednesday.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/07/world/middleeast/egyptian-leader-visits-coptic-christmas-eve-service.html
Sammy Finkelman (6b5229) — 1/9/2015 @ 9:18 amBreaking news is never, repeat never reported accurately or with consistency between media outlets. Today is no exception. I believe the two bros are dead. Beyond that? Let’s wait.
elissa (40c9e9) — 1/9/2015 @ 9:19 amThe 4 dead (per the associated Press) at the second hostage scene – the kosher grocery store/deli, include the gunman.
Sammy Finkelman (6b5229) — 1/9/2015 @ 9:34 amThe gunmen yesterday first entered the wrong building. They told the gunman they were next door.
Why didn’t they tell them they were far away – they moved out – last week. People don’t think quickly enough.
The new address should have been plausible but 20 to 30 minutes of city traffic away – and either nonexistent or an abandoned building.
Sammy Finkelman (6b5229) — 1/9/2015 @ 9:39 amThey called in the A Team.
It was a kosher deli, not a grocery.
Sammy Finkelman (6b5229) — 1/9/2015 @ 8:58 am
Dommage que je le fou!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 1/9/2015 @ 9:41 am“El-Sissi is clearly seeking to impose change through the state, using government religious institutions like the 1,000-year-old al-Azhar”
Sammy – More bogus reporting by the NY Times. Al-Sisi has already banned the Muslim Brotherhood and now of Arab states have joined in banning them, but his speech at al-Azhar was asking religious leader to reevaluate Islamic thought that causes the world to hate the religion. Yes, your unfounded conclusions of yesterday were wrong. You can find a translation of the speech at Raymond Ibrahim’s blog, which is probably categorically off limits to carlitos.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 1/9/2015 @ 9:43 amDid you mean “Je suis désolé pour l’imbecile”, Haiku?
nk (dbc370) — 1/9/2015 @ 9:50 amlayers of fact checkers:
http://minx.cc:1080/?post=354254
narciso (ee1f88) — 1/9/2015 @ 9:51 amVia a Chabad, I have a list of names, for prayer purposesof people taken hostage at the kosher market. This was two hours ago, so I do not know which are dead, nor ages, nor who might be related to whom.
kishnevi (3719b7) — 1/9/2015 @ 9:55 amShmuel Yitzchak ben Sara
Mordecai ben Maya
Andrea bat Susan
Zeri bat Susan
Shoshana?*
Noach ben Sara
Meryl bat Nancy
Sara bat Louna
* not sure if that is a separate person or the second part of the previous person’s name.
So four or five females, three males. Sara is a common name, so Shmuel and Noach may or may not be brothers, and may or may not be related to the Sara whose name is last on the list. Andrea and Zeri are probably sisters.
Also, although the list I received gives their names in Hebrew form where known, it is quite possible, even probable, that not all of them are Jewish.
Several sources report the female hostage taker at the kosher supermarket escaped when the hostages ran away.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 1/9/2015 @ 10:09 am“In print, there is no mention of a “reformation” till today’s article, I think, and the idea is attributed to”
Sammy – Is there any reason for you to believe that after choosing to deliberately bury coverage of Al-Sisi’s major speech the NY Times would suddenly manage to get it right?
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 1/9/2015 @ 10:09 amOn a day filled with horror and blood and fear in France I have to admit that your comment contribution made me laugh, narciso. Chris Cuomo–you da man!!!
elissa (ac39c5) — 1/9/2015 @ 10:21 amDRJ, did they confirm she was there in the first place? The reports I have seen say the male was alone today, and/or her whereabouts were unknown.
kishnevi (a5d1b9) — 1/9/2015 @ 10:21 amI don’t know, kishnevi. CNN reports police say she’s “on the run” and there was a secondhand report in The Independent that she was there:
Also, AFP has an updated report that there are 4 critically wounded in the supermarket attack. I don’t know if that is in addition to the reported deaths, instead of the deaths, or a combination. I hope they all survived.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 1/9/2015 @ 10:31 amWell, this is an interesting development:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11335676/Hacktivists-Anonymous-says-it-will-avenge-Charlie-Hebdo-attacks-by-shutting-down-jihadist-websites.html
Walter Cronanty (f48cd5) — 1/9/2015 @ 10:31 amkishnevi,
I’m sorry. That link is to The Telegraph, not The Independent.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 1/9/2015 @ 10:33 amWe need to ban workplace violence and cartoons, or something.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 1/9/2015 @ 10:36 amThanks DRJ
kishnevi (a5d1b9) — 1/9/2015 @ 10:45 amAnother report I saw says four dead hostages, four badly injured, and two injured policeman…but it did not whether or not the terrorist was among the four dead, or whether all four were hostages, and whether or not the wounded policeman were among the four injured, or separate from them
#39… don’t know, nk. I had to rely on google translate, my French is merde…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 1/9/2015 @ 10:52 am43. They may not have gotten it perfectly right, but the idea of a reformation almost certainly didn’t originate with el-Sisi. They would probably have one of the more vocal proponents. Theyt probably got this right becaus etheir reporter knows something more.
But they are catching up.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 1/9/2015 @ 10:59 amdaleyrocks (bf33e9) — 1/9/2015 @ 9:43 am
ALl linka seem to go there eventually, but that’s a transaltion of only part of the speech – maybe the key part, but just part. I linked to a blog post that quoted it a couple of days ago.
http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2015/01/04/sisis-remarkable-statement/
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 1/9/2015 @ 11:02 amThe link at 40 doesn’t work.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 1/9/2015 @ 11:08 amI think it is called the Hyper Casher deli but it is really more of a grocery store.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 1/9/2015 @ 11:09 amIf you translate the the whole sentence Dommage = TOO BAD but dommage alone = PITY.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 1/9/2015 @ 11:11 amIt is being reported that one female suspect, also suspected of killing a policewoman in a separate incident, was able to escape by blending in with the escaped hostages.
The information about the grocery store is less certain than about the printing shop.
The 3 hostages who are dead were dead already by the time the police closed in on the hostage taker(s)in the grocery store. reporters are still not clear on whether there were two hostage takers, and if so, was one of them the African’s girlfriend – although the information that he had </I. a girllfriend seems to be on more solid ground.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 1/9/2015 @ 11:24 amABC: 15 minutes ago
The number of hostages that were killed in the grocery store standoff has now been revised and government officials confirm that four hostages were killed. With the dead suspect, that brings the total number of deaths at that site to five people.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 1/9/2015 @ 12:08 pmThere may not have actually been a hostage in the printing factory. ]
While the owner, Michel Catalano, was in there, he was hiding, and the Kouachi brothers did not know he was in there.
The police did, and the rest of the world did, but if the brothers heard the news, they didn’t believe it because they knew they very well they didn’t have any hostages.
That would help explain why he wasn’t hurt.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 1/9/2015 @ 12:14 pmABC 1 hour ago:
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 1/9/2015 @ 12:17 pmBut…
http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/21/world/meast/al-qaeda-yemen-isis/
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 1/9/2015 @ 12:23 pmWait – I had that wrong.
The police knew there was not any hostage in the printing business, butthe world did not.
Maybe this started with them thinking there was a hostage, because one person was unaccuntd for, and then they found out he was hidin. The police then played along with the idea there was ahostage, because it would keep the brothers off guard, and maybe by then there was another hostage situation, or tghey wanted to try to capture one or more alive.
Sammy Finkelman (6b5229) — 1/9/2015 @ 12:40 pmhttp://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/10/us/house-gop-proposes-sweeping-reversal-of-obama-immigration-steps.html
Not just what he did in 2014, but also what he did two years before.
This is what the House Republican leadership has bene trying to prevent.
The Senate will probably take that out of the bill, so House Republicans will then be faced with defunding anti-terrorism policy or passing a bill that doesn’t overrule Obama.
Obama has indicated he will veto Homeland Security funding if reversal of his actions on immigration is in the bill.
I guess the thinking is, as long as they will have to cave anyway, stake out as extreme a position as possible. Its a game of chicken, with the goal being to be seen as less reasonable, and there is no way the Democrats will blink.
Sammy Finkelman (6b5229) — 1/9/2015 @ 12:53 pmI suppose they’ll fund Homeland Secrity for a month or two, and maybe keep arguing, making this the most important political issue in the 2016 election.
Sammy Finkelman (6b5229) — 1/9/2015 @ 12:54 pmhttp://news.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/01/09/updates-on-the-manhunt-for-the-charlie-hebdo-suspects/?_r=0
Sammy Finkelman (6b5229) — 1/9/2015 @ 1:15 pmCut the crap, lefty multi-culti appeasers. The problem is Islam, and it must be exterminated.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 1/9/2015 @ 1:56 pmCopy that, Col.
Two words you never hear
mg (31009b) — 1/9/2015 @ 2:25 pmmuslim hostage
“43. They may not have gotten it perfectly right, but the idea of a reformation almost certainly didn’t originate with el-Sisi.”
Sammy – No, sh*t! People have been calling for the reform of Islam for years, but has there been a President of a Muslim nation who has done it before Al-Sisi?
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 1/9/2015 @ 2:31 pmSammy – The criticism that Al-Sisi did not invent the concept that Islam needed to be reformed was a straw man you introduced to this thread all on your own. If you don’t believe his speech was significant, please just come right out and say so instead of being so obtuse.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 1/9/2015 @ 2:43 pmSammy sides with Western media in refusing to welcome that speech and acknowlege it as significant. It has been a long time coming and hopefully al-Sisi won’t have done to him what was done to Anwar Sadat.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 1/9/2015 @ 2:55 pmFor chrissakes, even Bob Beckel gets it.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 1/9/2015 @ 2:56 pmup to a point.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 1/9/2015 @ 2:56 pmThis is rich:
“Dean Baquet calls N.Y. Times critic ‘a–hole'”
The critic is Patterico’s “buddy” Marc Cooper.
Bacquet was defending the decision of the NY Times not to run the Charlie Hebdo cartoon with the laughable excuse “We have a standard that is pretty simple. We don’t run things that are designed to gratuitously offend.”
RTWT
http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2015/01/dean-baquet-calls-ny-times-critic-ahole-200860.html
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 1/9/2015 @ 4:27 pmColonel – The speech could not have been significant if the NY Times did not cover it contemporaneously.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 1/9/2015 @ 4:29 pmFurther update on the kosher market seige. The female terrorust was present and escaped. Four hostages were killed at the start. And 30 other customers hid in a downstairs freezer during the whole thing..
kishnevi (a5d1b9) — 1/9/2015 @ 5:15 pmhttp://www.timesofisrael.com/shoppers-in-kosher-market-hid-from-gunman-in-freezing-storage-room/
mister dean baquet
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 1/9/2015 @ 5:22 pmof the slimy new york times
no greater asshole
Re the NYT not printing the cartoons: It would have been dishonest to run the tamer Charlie Hebdo cartoons which are fit to print, and not the filthier ones, such as Mohammed naked in a doggie-style position or the one showing God, Christ and the Holy spirit in an anal threesome, which are too dirty even for the back pages of Hustler.
nk (dbc370) — 1/9/2015 @ 5:23 pmMeanwhile here’s how failmerica’s barbaric Saudi royal trash allies deal with their lil Charlies
happyfeet (831175) — 1/9/2015 @ 5:39 pmTo be clarify Mr Feets last comment, Badawi will receive 50 lashes every Friday for 20 weeks in a row.
Wonder what the women’s restrooms in Riyadh are like, speaking of binding and cumbersome clothes.
The best argument for electric cars is Saudi Arabia…
kishnevi (294553) — 1/9/2015 @ 5:45 pmGeraldo Rivera has a plan to fight to fight teh jihadists… http://t.co/5TScAVc9Rf
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 1/9/2015 @ 5:46 pmHe stood. Silent through 50 lashes. Tough man. Or the lashing is largely symbolic.
nk (dbc370) — 1/9/2015 @ 5:48 pmPlease Colonel! I try to avoid him even when he is fully clothed.
kishnevi (a5d1b9) — 1/9/2015 @ 5:50 pm“Re the NYT not printing the cartoons: It would have been dishonest to run the tamer Charlie Hebdo cartoons which are fit to print, and not the filthier ones, such as Mohammed naked in a doggie-style position or the one showing God, Christ and the Holy spirit in an anal threesome, which are too dirty even for the back pages of Hustler.”
nk – I’m just glad the NY Times never offends anybody, absolutely never.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 1/9/2015 @ 7:40 pm71. Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 1/9/2015 @ 2:55 pm
I didn’t say it wasn’t significant (although I don’t think it’s all that significant by itself. It’s rather, something unexpected)
I linked to this days before the New York Times, or the Wall Street Journal became aware of it.
It was first was picked up by Jewish and Christian religious web sites.
Sammy Finkelman (6b5229) — 1/10/2015 @ 9:18 pmWhat I said was it was reasonable, and it wasn’t anything special for the New York Times to miss this until Friday.
Sammy Finkelman (6b5229) — 1/10/2015 @ 9:19 pm“It was first was picked up by Jewish and Christian religious web sites.”
Sammy – Ray Ibrahim picked it up the day of the speech. Pajamas Media two days later.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 1/10/2015 @ 9:44 pm“It was first was picked up by Jewish and Christian religious web sites.”
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 1/10/2015 @ 9:44 pm
I didn’t mean really first. I meant before, or first among more widely read outlets. They (and Pajamas Media) picked it up from Ray Ibrahim I think.
Sammy Finkelman (6b5229) — 1/11/2015 @ 9:05 am63 etc
Some corrections:
There was a known hostage in the printing plant, although not at the end, and ALSO a person in hiding, but the person in hiding was not the owner.
Print shop Michel Catalano gave the two brothers fresh coffee to keep them from going into the back, where an employee was hiding underneath a sink. Then they let him go, and the owner decided it was better not to say anything about the person who was in hiding, although that was a difficult decision for him. (The brothers were saying they didn’t want to hurt anyone.)
In the deli/kosher grocery store, a Muslim clerk of black African descent, Lassana Bathily, hid about 15 hostages, including an infant, inside the store’s walk-in freezer. He told them not to make any noise. Outside the freezer, Amedy Coulabi killed 4 people, one of whom worked in the store.
A few hours into the seige, Bathily planned an escape, but the others were afraid to go, so he escaped alone, but then the cops thought he was one of the terrorists (an example of racial or religious profiling?) and told him to get down on the ground, and put his hands over his head, and cuffed him. They held him for about 1 1/2 hours.
Hayat Boumeddiene, married to Ahmedy Coulibaly under Islamic law in July 2009, but not under French civil law, was not in the grocery and was not present when the policewoman was killed the day earlier, either.
She took a plane trip from Madrid, Spain to Istanbul Turkey on Friday, January 2 and crossed into Syria on Thursday, January 8.
People leaving the country – family members of possible terrorists, or big shot terrorists or a bunch of them – that is, people who might be arrested if they were connected to something that happened, but whose presence would not be necessary for the operation to succeed – could be a sign that something is about to happen, but this would have been hard to detect here, even if her movements were being watched in real time. She left from Spain, and didn’t leave Turkey until after something had happened.
One of the people killed in the grocery store was the son of the chief Rabbi of Tunis who had moved to Paris to study marketing and international trade. He used to come into the store before every Shabbos. (the newspaper says every Sabbath, but this clearly must be Erev Shabbat, or Friday.)
Sammy Finkelman (6b5229) — 1/11/2015 @ 9:30 amSome ore additions and corrections:
In the printing plant, the owner kept text messaging the police secretly while he was there.
There was another person with ties to terrorism on the same plane that Hayat Boumeddiene took from Madrid to Istanbul on Friday January 2: the brother of some terrorist suspect.
Sammy Finkelman (6b5229) — 1/11/2015 @ 7:03 pmBiographies of the victims in France:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/12/world/europe/terror-attacks-in-paris-the-victims.html
This one says the student in Paris was the son of the director of a Jewish school in Tunisia (not the chief Rabbi, although maybe it could be with the probability that the Jewish population is much reduced.)
Sammy Finkelman (6b5229) — 1/11/2015 @ 7:18 pmThe policeman who was assigned as a guard to Stéphane Charbonnier was married to a newspaper editor.
Sammy Finkelman (6b5229) — 1/11/2015 @ 7:19 pmANother thinbg I read said he was the son of the chief Rabbi.
There were two freezers in the gorcery store. One of them wouldn’t close. Amedy Coulibaly sent a store employee to go fetch them, and he did, from one of the cold rooms. At the top of the staircase was a man dying in hisown blood. One man (the store clerk) attempted the seize a gun Coulibaly had left on the counter, but he was shot, and then Coulibaly had a hostage call a French TV station.
Another hostage was 70 years old. He was asked if he was a Moslem and he replied that he was Mussawi, which means a follower of Moses, which is what Moslems called a Jew when they wanted to be very respectful. Coulibaly apparently misunderstood this to be a form of Islam he hadn’t heard of, and he wasn’t about to reveal his ignorance by asking a question.
There wqere 17 or 18 victimes – 12 by the brothers, 4 in the grocery store, the policewoman shot and killed Thursday and also probably a jogger shot and killed Thursday.
Sammy Finkelman (be6791) — 1/12/2015 @ 3:30 pmhttp://video.foxnews.com/v/3984881478001/french-police-up-to-six-cell-members-may-still-be-at-large/?#sp=show-clips
They’re looking in particular for the person who shot the video of Amedy Coulibaly.
Coulibaly may have connections with organized crime. (He had drug offenses and armed robbery in addition to terrorist related offenses) That’s how he got the weapons. He had shotgun shells.
And I think the French police had been penetrated. The Kouachi brothers knew they were no longer under surveillance. This has to be so.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/paris-magazine-attack/paris-killer-cherif-kouachi-gave-interview-tv-channel-he-died-n283206
Coulibaly said he gave (one of the Kouachi brothers) money to finish what he started.
The phone of Hayat Boumeddiene (Coulibaly’s wife under Islamic law) and the phone of the married brother’s wife had 500 calls between them in 2014.
Sammy Finkelman (be6791) — 1/12/2015 @ 4:16 pm