A Progressive Democrat Police Officer Offers His View On The NYPD Turmoil
[guest post by Dana]
After the deaths of Officer Ramos and Officer Liu, John Marshall over at TPM wanted to know whether he was missing something in his look at the NYPD/NYC conflict, which culminated in the question Who Do You Work For? being asked:
The conflicts over policing are ones that need to be worked out at the grass roots level in the hard but critical work of police-community relations and at the grander level of city politics. But what has been disturbing to me for weeks, well before this tragedy this weekend, is the way that at least the leadership of the police unions has basically gone to war against the Mayor over breaking even in small ways from lockstep backing of the police department in all cases and at all times. When we hear members of the NYPD union leadership talking about being forced to become a “wartime” police department, who exactly are they going to war with? WTF does that mean? And who is the enemy?
What I want to focus on is the thoughtful email response from a police officer that Marshall knows and whose views on the NYPD turmoil he requested. An experienced New York police officer – who also happens to be a progressive Democrat. I am highlighting the more interesting parts:
First off, a disclaimer. I’m not your typical cop. I’m a progressive Democrat. Rarely do I come across another in the department who shares my politics, and when I do, I liken it to discovering another member of the French Resistance. We keep our views to ourselves… though I have become more vocal in recent years.
As for Lynch, the city PBA President, Police Departments are paramilitary organizations, highly regulated, and Police Officers in general are highly circumscribed in how they can act and what they can say, at the risk insubordination and disciplinary action. The PBA President is in many ways their only public voice. And when they are angry, frustrated, and feel set upon by their political leaders, the union leader who fails to express that emotion is going to lose the respect of the rank and file. (Officers who speak out publicly against Department leaders have, in the past, been brought up on departmental disciplinary charges. Union leaders enjoy a certain amount of protection under labor laws.)
The officer then cites the incentives Lynch has to keep his job: 98K PBA compensation on top of his city salary. He also discusses an increasingly diverse NYPD and the reluctance of old school cops to embrace the changing face of the department. He amusingly likens this attitude with what he sees as the Tea Party’s “siege mentality” – us against them.
And then there is the issue of race:
I’ve been accused of being racist by African-American civilians just because of the color of my uniform. In one instance by an African-American ex-NYPD officer at a domestic incident. *He spent 15 minutes interrupting me and claiming I was “only treating him that way” because he was black, while in reality I was treating him as I would any other person, based on his actions. I have close friends on the force, white, who are in interracial marriages, and on more than one occasion where they are accused of racism will pull out their wallet and show the accuser a picture of their wife and children. Are there cops with racist views? Of course. Do cops go out intending to kill people? No. They go out on patrol intending to come home to their families. I read recently that there are about 25 million interactions each year between the police and citizens in New York City. Statistically, bad things will happen. We can do our best to train and equip and sensitize officers to the community, but they are human, and not infallible. Nobody wants a bad actor in the ranks, it makes everyone’s job harder. We’re happy to see them go when they are found out.
Sharpton is anathema to the NYPD since the 1987 Tawana Brawley debacle and his habit of showing in front of cop’s suburban residences in protest after they were involved in shootings, even before his recent rhetoric. De Blasio’s close association with Sharpton during his campaign and subsequently sets a very bad precedent for his relations with the police. Sharpton is absolute poison to cops. A cop who was assigned to the detail at the 1991 rally where Sharpton was stabbed in assassination attempt, and had a hand in saving his life, told me it counts it as one of the mistakes of his career. That’s the feeling, and de Blasio’s association with Sharpton, while perhaps wise in the broader political sense, does him no good with the rank and file of the police department.
Even African-American police officers that I know have spoken out against Sharpton and his tactics, even referring to his tactics as “race-baiting.” The perception of Sharpton’s rhetoric as anti-police is not limited to white cops.
The writer follows this with a look at Lynch’s words and the limits of free speech:
I don’t find Lynch’s comments shocking, given the environment he has to operate in. Though I think he was out of line with his comments at the hospital about blood on the hands of the mayor, it is incendiary – but it’s what’s expected of him – even if that rhetoric has the unintended effect of increasing the level of danger to the very people he represents. It’s red meat for the rank-and-file masses. This is the way politics is done these days, inside and outside of unions, and that speech probably clinched the PBA election for him. He is channeling the anger, and using it partially for his own benefit.
I have not been this upset since 9/11, when I lost a close friend, a city cop. It’s an emotional time, I feel the loss deeply. It’s senseless, and I do believe that some of the rhetoric contributed to it. There is a sense, too, that the protesters have crossed over the line of free speech. Free speech should not include the right to block traffic, or bridges – and there is a sense that de Blasio has allowed that. On-scene commanders seem to have allowed the acts of blocking traffic, normally an offense. But couple protests that skirt the edge of laws or break them and include incendiary rhetoric and anti-police sentiment, and the cops start to scratch their heads…
He concludes:
Who do cops work for? We try to be impartial. We uphold the constitution and the laws… so there is not a real sense that the police work for de Blasio or the People or the City Council or Bratton… the sense is that we enforce those laws that the people put in place. And when the politicians allow people to break those laws in the name of free speech, the cops feel betrayed. I get the reason behind civil disobedience, etc, but civil disobedience is normally undertaken at the risk of arrest. I think even the cops respect that… you want to make your point, you get carried to the paddy wagon. Point taken, with all due respect. But when that risk is taken away by a political decision not to arrest, the cops see a slippery slope to anarchy. (In New York, though, with few exceptions, its a credit to both the citizens and the police that we did not see another Ferguson. Let’s hope it stays that way.)
*Pointing out the obvious: Given that we know this benefit of the doubt only works one way, it’s really ironic that a progressive Democrat may have had to work to convince a black man that he was being judged by his actions alone and not the color of his skin.
Hello.
Dana (8e74ce) — 1/2/2015 @ 3:26 pmthe cops suck and the mayor sucks and new yorkers in general suck, particularly the manhattan trash ones
but don’t it seem all of them sucked a lil less under giuliani?
happyfeet (831175) — 1/2/2015 @ 3:40 pmI get the reason behind civil disobedience, etc, but civil disobedience is normally undertaken at the risk of arrest. I think even the cops respect that… you want to make your point, you get carried to the paddy wagon. Point taken, with all due respect.
This.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 1/2/2015 @ 3:50 pmDana, I appreciate your post very much.
We live in a weird, “lottery thinking” world. We tend to focus on rare positive and rare negative events.
Growing up where I did, I knew many police officers. Some were good, and some were bad. But even the “bad” ones did their duty most of the time.
Again, though sentiment this irritates some people, I really think that it is cheap and intellectually lazy to criticize police officers without spending some time around them, or spending some time researching this situation in terms of history and context.
The fact is, our Media Masters like us to look at themes and narratives, instead of getting context and perspectives. It makes us easier to lead around by our noses. Especially when we think we are smart and wise and fair minded.
I look at this kind of thing as a reminder to take a breath when I read a story that irritates me.
And I remain grateful to LEOs that do their best under difficult circumstances.
So I am grateful for you posting this. Thank you.
Simon Jester (c15343) — 1/2/2015 @ 4:22 pmThis cop made a very good point about there being no Ferguson as a result
of almost intolerable provocation. But DeBlasio is not responsible for some
Black Muslim criminal coming to New York on a mission and who happened to
succeed.
Better use could be made of this situation by the NYPD to change some of their
policies and enforce a few others. Then point to what they are doing and ask the
community what THEY’RE doing to make things better for themselves.
Plus the police have to make it worth the while of the brave and bold in the community
that try to make the changes and back them up and protect them and not go away after
a few weeks leaving them as targets for retaliation. That means putting some bad guys
away and away for a long time. That takes time and money and good cops and prosectors.
And that means they need the help of the Council and the Mayor. See how it all
intertwines?
Us against them never built any civilization.
jakee308 (f0aa61) — 1/2/2015 @ 4:25 pmDon’t care what a leftist progressive thinks. He’d silence me with his policies if he got the chance… for my own good of course.
njrob (904e37) — 1/2/2015 @ 4:26 pmThe fact is, our Media Masters like us to look at themes and narratives, instead of getting context and perspectives. It makes us easier to lead around by our noses. Especially when we think we are smart and wise and fair minded.
This is what I liked about his letter: he wasn’t pushing his politics, but rather answering an inquiry into his perspective as a cop. There wasn’t a agenda being foisted upon readers, nor any manipulation of circumstances to convince us that his pov is correct, or the only one to hold.
I respect him for being straight-up with his insights. Clearly, he is not a politician nor member of the media. Neither would stand for this.
Dana (8e74ce) — 1/2/2015 @ 4:35 pmReading between the lines, and not all that much between, bravo for the PBA. De Blasio is in bed with Sharpton and his ilk and the cops will not be the towel boys. A very positive good from the police union. Now, about that ticket I got for wearing white after Labor Day ….
nk (dbc370) — 1/2/2015 @ 4:40 pmI was thinking while reading that…”He sounds pretty smart and reasonable, why is he a Progressive Democrat?”
Then I read “…that the protesters have crossed over the line of free speech…”
Now it makes sense.
DejectedHead (5443cc) — 1/2/2015 @ 4:47 pmI have smart and caring friends who are prog Dems and vote that way. It’s funny though when we talk politics and issues, they are actually conservative with regard to principles and issues. It’s paradoxical… Even though they have fundamentally conservative beliefs, especially with moral issues, they cling to the prog theme. It’s like a major blind of inconsistency spot or something.
Dana (8e74ce) — 1/2/2015 @ 4:58 pmThis was posted at another website whose commenters did not accept a lot of what our Prog/Cop had to say.
askeptic (efcf22) — 1/2/2015 @ 5:10 pmDana it’s because they’ve been brainwashed into knowing that conservatives are racist and evil. Oh, they also love Big Brother.
njrob (904e37) — 1/2/2015 @ 5:11 pmI saw that last week and it is tough for lefties to accept. Good forTPM for posting it.
Mike K (90dfdc) — 1/2/2015 @ 5:11 pmDana #7. I agree completely. Part of it is what Thomas Sowell writes about in “The Vision of the Anointed“—folks who think they are on the side of the “good” come to believe that folks who disagree with them are “bad.”
But it much more the “Teh Narrative,” “Sound Bite,” “Meme,” “bumper sticker thinking” issue. Folks are encouraged to react, not to think.
Most people have to deal with it, myself included. The value of people saying crazy things reminds me how it feels to be on “the outside,” and not to do that kind of thing myself.
I think I have mentioned folks in my own department having a meeting right after the 2008 election. They had gotten a sheet cake of the US and frosted the states red and blue appropriately based on the Electoral College. Then they cut off the “red” states and threw them away, smiling.
I instantly wondered about the reaction had it gone the other way. Inconceivable, to quote Fizzik from “The Princess Bride.”
Sort of the like the Palin nonsense going on right now: folks shrieking about a little kid standing on a dog. How typically Rethuglican! How Trailer Park Trashy! Except Ellen Degeneres had posted a very similar photo a while back.
Crickets.
It’s all reactions and emotions and cheerleading. Alphabetism uber alles.
Simon Jester (c15343) — 1/2/2015 @ 6:50 pmon the other side of the wormhole:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-nypds-work-stoppage-is-surreal-20141231?page=2
narciso (ee1f88) — 1/2/2015 @ 7:14 pmI wasn’t kidding about the wormhole, through which Taibbi seems to go through,
narciso (ee1f88) — 1/2/2015 @ 8:14 pmFrench resistance? How unhelpful.
Might we justly call the majority the Orkin Men?
DNF (61fae1) — 1/2/2015 @ 8:27 pmIt’s going to be hard to top happy’s comment in number 2 position, so I won’t even try.
But this I will say, Glenn Reynolds, the greatest of the internet sibyls, once commented that every few election cycles the country needs to elect a Democrat to the big job to let all the poisons that lurk in the liberal mud to hatch out and remind us all of why we vote Republican. All along I’ve thought that was the right call, though I’ve got to admit I was caught by surprise by how toxic those poisons would be.
A similar story in any lesser metropolis would be buried by the MSM, but they couldn’t quite pull it off in the navel-gazing capital of the world. For once, I am grateful to the extraordinary narcissism of New Yorkers. That’s some toxic stuff they’ve got there in the Big Apple.
I just hope there are enough of us left, like John Marshall’s friend, Officer Krupke, who are able to live and learn.
ThOR (a52560) — 1/2/2015 @ 8:38 pmI have smart and caring friends who are prog Dems and vote that way…. It’s like a major blind of inconsistency spot or something.
My theory is that various people are wired to the left, meaning they have innate reflexes that push them to embrace liberalism, regardless whether that makes sense or not. However, I think people of all ideological stripes are a bit more likely to give people who tilt left (eg, scroungy Hillary Clinton), compared with folks who tilt right, more benefit of the doubt than appropriate or logical because they equate liberal instincts with loving, feel-good, permissive “mommy,” while conservatism is equated with gruff, stick-in-the-mud, killjoy, whip-you-with-a-belt “daddy.”
Overall, I think it should always be pointed out that the most liberal/leftwing demographic in the US, by far (ie, 90-plus percent), is black America, and it therefore truly is a reflection of liberalism, for good or bad. So is much of black America a compassionate, generous, sophisticated, intelligent, wonderful, friendly, helpful demographic?
Mark (c160ec) — 1/2/2015 @ 8:52 pm19.
kishnevi (294553) — 1/2/2015 @ 8:57 pmGoing by my black coworkers, the answer to your question is a decided “yes”.
on the other side of the wormhole:
A fascinating dichotomy because I find myself becoming very irritated when cops on various occasions are no more than glorified tax collectors, sort of like a branch of the IRS — aided and abetted by greedy local governments — and yet I’m also irritated when a neighborhood is taken advantage of by punks, troublemakers, or so-called riff-raff.
A fine line there, to be sure.
Mark (c160ec) — 1/2/2015 @ 9:03 pmGoing by my black coworkers, the answer to your question is a decided “yes”.
kishnevi, I’m not talking about a demographic on a micro-level, involving a few people in your office or the neighbors 3 houses down. I’m talking about a demographic in general, encompassing millions of people. I’m referring to a populace where the socio-political dynamics have created the joke (and irony) raised by, for example, comedienne Chris Rock, who (to paraphrase) has quipped that if a person visiting a US city for the first time isn’t exactly sure where he’s wandered off to, but happens to look up and finds himself at the intersection of Martin Luther King Boulevard and Cesar Chavez Drive, to GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE!
There’s truth in humor.
Mark (c160ec) — 1/2/2015 @ 9:22 pmwell Taibbi misses the point, the traffic cameras can handle the citations, it was boob Bloomberg that made loosies, into such valuable contraband, do police abuse their authority, yes, but not in any of the cases offered, the lie or the omission is the template that conditions the response,
narciso (ee1f88) — 1/2/2015 @ 9:31 pmThose targetting police don’t care if they are Chinese-American, or Hispanic. They target hem anyway. Being a LIBTARD/Prog idiot does not take the target off of Officer Progs back.
Gus (7cc192) — 1/2/2015 @ 9:38 pmPolice should do the job they are paid to do and sworn to do. But I do sympathize, and think Lynch has been doing his job as union leader, too. DeBlasio reappointing the former Legal Aid lawyer judge who released the two thugs charged with terrorist threats to kill cops with no bail is a slap in the face.
You can’t embrace protests alleging cops are racist killers, sit down repeatedly with Sharpton, express the bogus concern about policing, and reappoint this judge and expect the support of the police, though. DeBlasio should resign.
Estragon (ada867) — 1/2/2015 @ 10:47 pmI will no longer pretend that Progressives are not the enemy. They would grind us conservatives under their boot heels given the chance. They lie and with their media allies manipulate the info types for the sake of power. And no we don’t all do it, that’s why we are losing. I’m glad this Progressive cop has to hide his beliefs. Now he has a small inking of how a conservative in the media, Hollywood, and academia feels.
Funeral Guy (afbf7b) — 1/2/2015 @ 10:49 pmIf you don’t like the laws the cops have to enforce, don’t blame the cops, change the damn laws.
Libertarians please note: eliminating taxes and fees does NOT cut spending. Taxes will just go up for someone else. And thanks for your total lack of concern for the poor tax-paying shop-owners and employees who lose business and livelihoods because thugs like Garner attract a crowd of miscreants that scare away paying customers – while breaking the laws that ARE on the books.
Estragon (ada867) — 1/2/2015 @ 10:51 pm#20 kishnevi. Going by the government workforce which is decidedly black, the answer is “No”.
Funeral Guy (afbf7b) — 1/2/2015 @ 10:56 pmKeep in mind that cop killer Ismaaiyl Brinsley’s hyphenated middle name is Abdullah-Muhammad and when the reportedly unemployed cold blooded assassin shot himself to avoid being taken into custody he was carrying an expensive handgun and had a wad of $100 bills in his pocket.
Brinsley had long standing ties to Obama’s high level advisor Imam Mohamed Magid. According to Brinsley’s own Facebook biography, he worked for Magid’s Islamic Society of North America (ISNA).
Imam Mohamed Magid is Brack Obama’s designated advisor to both the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and to the National Security Council (NSC). Obama attended ISNA’s annual convention in 2013 and addressed the membership. The murder of officers Ramos and Liu wasn’t a random event, it was part of the ongoing narrative.
ropelight (501fb0) — 1/3/2015 @ 4:49 am25, 27. I comprehensively agree with this nub of the matter.
DNF (61fae1) — 1/3/2015 @ 7:43 amSmart people should move to rural America.
mg (31009b) — 1/3/2015 @ 8:06 amLet the cities rot from political correctness.
31. Let him who has ears to hear give heed.
DNF (61fae1) — 1/3/2015 @ 8:11 amropelight, I agree that there were other themes in this violent act. The Muslims have been recruiting black prisoners in US prisons for years. One of the terrorists who was arrested and convicted had been recruited in prison.
Mike K (90dfdc) — 1/3/2015 @ 8:13 amLocal government is the most accountable, responsive, efficient and humane instantiation of our betters.
If one is in happy with your version, move.
The mere suggestion that the Statehouse or DC can improve on local governance is absurd and motivated by moral depravity.
DNF (61fae1) — 1/3/2015 @ 8:33 am34. Unhappy, effing iPhone.
DNF (61fae1) — 1/3/2015 @ 8:35 amNo you’re talking a bout a demographic as presented to you by the media. I’m stunned at how so many whites don’t understand that most blacks don’t even live in Central Cities, but in suburbs and rural areas. But all Sharpton has to do is get a couple of thousand people in a demonstration, and he’s presented as the “voice of blacks”.
Mike Giles (b8b724) — 1/3/2015 @ 9:54 am“But all Sharpton has to do is get a couple of thousand people in a demonstration, and he’s presented as the “voice of blacks”.”
Mike – That’s the media presentation of Sharpton. Most people here are smart enough to know he’s a worthless raceaholic in it just for himself.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 1/3/2015 @ 10:01 ampeople watch too much tv
if everyone would just turn off their tv and step on a dog we could take all the obstacles and switcher them up into stepping stones
happyfeet (831175) — 1/3/2015 @ 10:06 amhttp://therightscoop.com/zonation-to-conservatives-stop-rooting-for-politicians-and-start-winning-the-culture/
narciso (ee1f88) — 1/3/2015 @ 10:10 amYou’re very dogged dogging the kid for putting his dogs on the dog.
nk (dbc370) — 1/3/2015 @ 10:13 amwell there’s nothing good on tv
happyfeet (831175) — 1/3/2015 @ 10:14 amhe hasn’t had his nespresso yet,
narciso (ee1f88) — 1/3/2015 @ 10:15 amthere was a Tudor’s marathon the other day.
narciso (ee1f88) — 1/3/2015 @ 10:16 amGunsmoke on Me-TV and The Little Rascals on MeToo.
nk (dbc370) — 1/3/2015 @ 10:18 amok to be honest i haven’t actually hooked up the tv yet
happyfeet (831175) — 1/3/2015 @ 10:20 amMatt Dillon, now that’s what every cop should be. And Buckwheat, what every black kid should be.
nk (dbc370) — 1/3/2015 @ 10:21 amcops not unlike kids should be seen and not heard i think
happyfeet (831175) — 1/3/2015 @ 10:24 amok to be honest i haven’t actually hooked up the tv yet
happyfeet (831175) — 1/3/2015 @ 10:20 am
Just think how many of your brain cells HAVEN’T died due to your inaction?
askeptic (efcf22) — 1/3/2015 @ 11:56 amBarney Fife is America’s Top Cop, nk.
mg (31009b) — 1/3/2015 @ 12:15 pmi been feeling super-smart lately
like i listen to NPR
happyfeet (831175) — 1/3/2015 @ 12:41 pmPreach it, Zonation
MD in Philly, originally born in Ohio (f9371b) — 1/3/2015 @ 12:47 pmFor example, remember when the police were portrayed by Dragnet and 1Adam12?
feeling smart and being smart are two different things, feets
MD in Philly, originally born in Ohio (f9371b) — 1/3/2015 @ 12:48 pmlistening to NPR will get you one but not the other.
true that
Radiolab is usually good.
kishnevi (294553) — 1/3/2015 @ 1:06 pmi’m just kidding i can’t listen to npr cause it ruins everything
like if i find out one of the bands i’m listening to is an NPR band then that’s it we’re done
yup i’m looking at you mumphord and pickles … we’re DONE you just go cuddle up next to your super-smart npr pajama boy friends I’ve moved on
happyfeet (831175) — 1/3/2015 @ 1:18 pmI’m stunned at how so many whites don’t understand that most blacks don’t even live in Central Cities, but in suburbs and rural areas.
Although the joke about “Martin Luther King Boulevard” and “get the hell out of there!” may seem more fitting to an urban setting, the idea of monolithic liberalism among black America in general — whether urban or suburban — and the paucity of truly stable, prosperous, enviable neighborhoods that also happen to be predominantly black knows no geographic boundaries. At the core of this isn’t race but a nonsensical love of liberalism and liberals throughout the community (or society) in question.
For example, Argentina, a nation of people of predominantly European extraction (less racially diverse than the US) but given to embracing leftism over and over again, has been experiencing a century of regular economic turmoil along with social dysfunction in the guise of the following:
Yet the people of such places go to the polls on election day and, again and again, vote for variations of an Eva Peron or her current leftist successor, Cristina Kirchner—or sort of a South American counterpart to Hillary Clinton. Simply put, Argentinians are not too different from people in US cities like Detroit, Michigan.
Mark (c160ec) — 1/3/2015 @ 2:44 pmIt was a fine summer morning, the kind to make a man happy to be alive. And probably the man would have been happier to be alive. He was, in fact, dead. It would be hard to be deader without special training.
“Well, now,” said Sergeant Colon (Ankh-Morpork City Guard, Night Watch), consulting his notebook, “so far we have cause of death as a) being beaten with at least one blunt instrument b) being strangled with a string of sausages and c) being savaged by at least two animals with big sharp teeth. What do we do now, Nobby?”
“Arrest the suspect, Sarge,” said Corporal Nobbs, saluting smartly.
“Suspect, Nobby?”
“Him,” said Nobby, prodding the corpse with his boot. “I call it highly suspicious, being dead like that. He’s been drinking, too. We could do him for being dead and disorderly.”
Colon scratched his head. Arresting the corpse offered, of course, certain advantages. But…
“I reckon,” he said slowly, “that Captain Vimes’ll want this one sorted out. You’d better bring it back to the Watch House, Nobby.”
“And then can we eat the sausages, sarge?” said Corporal Nobbs.
nk (dbc370) — 1/3/2015 @ 4:47 pmNever read any Pratchett, but I knew that had to be him even before I googled for confirmation.
Did you ever read The Complete Enchanter (speaking of another great fantasy in which the police are treated rather shabbily)?
kishnevi (294553) — 1/3/2015 @ 4:56 pmOh, yeah, many times. I started reading it when it was still the Incomplete Enchanter. True. And I went and learned “The Ballad of Eskimo Nell” because of it. Before there was internet! I was just reading some some L. Sprague de Camp and Fletcher Pratt last night as a matter of fact. Gavagan’s Bar stories.
nk (dbc370) — 1/3/2015 @ 5:03 pmMr. Nobbs is eager to enjoy him some sausages.
And you know what?
in this ever-waning twilight of failmerica I say get your sausage on Mr. Nobbs
Get your sausage on while you can
and god bless america
happyfeet (831175) — 1/3/2015 @ 5:26 pmYou’ll like this story, happyfeet. http://www.lspace.org/books/dawcn/dawcn-english.html It’s short and SFW.
nk (dbc370) — 1/3/2015 @ 5:37 pmUnless work is Philosophy or Theoretical Physics.
nk (dbc370) — 1/3/2015 @ 5:38 pmKishnevi, I was mentioned on Radiolab last year, so I have to like it!
Nk, so glad you liked FP and SdC. Great people.
Simon Jester (20e066) — 1/3/2015 @ 5:42 pmthat’s really short
discworld
i always shy away from that cause it’s… comedic
i never watch sitcoms
hardly ever watch comedy movies… unless someone makes me (last one was “bad grampa” and I died laughing – that kid deserves awards)
never ever read funny books ever
it’s like i never read that Ludlum book road to whatever that was supposed to be funny (granted Ludlum was not a gifted writer otherwise – he was actually a very very very crappy writer… i think he just found an underexploited niche)
(enter Matt Damon, bottom-feeder)
happyfeet (831175) — 1/3/2015 @ 5:51 pmyou know – comedy
like “President Huckabee”
happyfeet (831175) — 1/3/2015 @ 5:57 pmlol!
happyfeet (831175) — 1/3/2015 @ 5:57 pmHuckabee is not really a very good joke — he’s kind of like that paper bag full of dog poo that kids set on fire on your doorstep so you’ll try to stamp it out.
nk (dbc370) — 1/3/2015 @ 6:16 pmthese days – except for your exceptionally committed 65+ fox news viewers – he’s more or less the political Martha Quinn of popcultural relevance
who made phenomenally ugly babbies
happyfeet (831175) — 1/3/2015 @ 6:22 pmbut nevertheless – this roger whatever of fox news should be slapped upside the head with the bladder taken from mario cuomo’s autopsy for giving this huckabee trash a platform
happyfeet (831175) — 1/3/2015 @ 6:24 pmthe popcultural Martha Quinn of political relevance?
you know what i mean
happyfeet (831175) — 1/3/2015 @ 7:09 pmLook, just because she went to NYU doesn’t mean that I “knew” her, too, if that’s what you’re getting at. 😉
I liked MTV when it first came on. I still remember this Stevie Ray Vaughn video from way back then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2ou-WIxfLY
I kind of get the reference but I have never watched Huckabee’s show. Not even a little.
nk (dbc370) — 1/3/2015 @ 7:28 pmthe telephone lines are down cause of an unfortunate helicopter incident
was my stevie ray takeaway
bless his heart
but yeah i only know huckabee has a tv show cause i spended more time in motels than your most rampant failmerican crack whore
but that’s just who i am
i like to go and see
happyfeet (831175) — 1/3/2015 @ 7:42 pmThe New York City Police Department doesn’t cover up for cops.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/nypd-turns-attacking-female-mta-employee-article-1.2063013
In July:
http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20140725/bed-stuy/nypd-places-officer-on-modified-duty-after-alleged-head-stomping-video/
Sammy Finkelman (6ee5be) — 1/4/2015 @ 12:43 pmhttp://nypost.com/2015/01/04/how-sharpton-gets-paid-to-not-cry-racism-at-corporations/
Sammy Finkelman (6ee5be) — 1/4/2015 @ 1:09 pmEnd of a New York Post editorial Friday, January 2, 2015:
http://nypost.com/2015/01/02/slowdown-low-down/
Sammy Finkelman (6b5229) — 1/6/2015 @ 11:42 amThat story with the NYPD worker attacked by a policeman was not very clear. A later Daily news story exlained it.
While the cop (not in uniform) was attacking her, a train pulled in. (and the whole thing had starfted because she wouldn’t or couldn’t tell him when the next train would come in) The cop got on board the trian but the off duty conductor yelled not to close the doors, and people started getting ready to detain him, so he ran out and upstairs. She chased after him, but had been hurt. The cop turned himself in when his pictuire was circulated.
Sammy Finkelman (6b5229) — 1/6/2015 @ 11:46 am