What’s not to like? There’s the Bush name (voters love it!), the idea that nobody can run for office except family members of former presidents, the pandering on immigration, the contempt for true conservatives . . . why the list just goes on and on!
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Patterico (9c670f) — 12/16/2014 @ 6:23 pmWould he be the candidate for Republicans who want to hedge their bets?
nk (dbc370) — 12/16/2014 @ 6:31 pmI WILL NEVER VOTE FOR ANOTHER BUSH.
Can we send him a telegram or something?
Maybe he plans to run for President of Mexico or something.
WarEagle82 (b18ccf) — 12/16/2014 @ 6:35 pmThis really surprises me. And not in a good way. The only way this could ever work with voters is…never.
elissa (fb037f) — 12/16/2014 @ 6:36 pmi’d vote to shove a juicy hillary suppository up failmerica’s rectum before i’d vote for sleazy sleazy bushtrash
happyfeet (831175) — 12/16/2014 @ 6:37 pmhttp://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/pa454.pdf
for 6 of his 8 years considered one of the best governors
EPWJ (abd159) — 12/16/2014 @ 6:56 pmMaybe he is looking forward toward being ambassador to the Dominican (keep an eye on Sen. Menendez)
steveg (794291) — 12/16/2014 @ 6:59 pm@#6. History is grand but remember that “past performance may not be indicative of future results.”
Jeb has already announced an agenda that will cripple America and he just started!
What do they say about repeating the same action over and over and over and expecting different results?
WarEagle82 (b18ccf) — 12/16/2014 @ 7:00 pm6.
And being from Florida, I am willing to say he is a resl conservative, more than his brother or father, more than McCain or Romney…and also more than the guy who currently is our governor. And as governor, he knew what to do and how to it.
The only reason not to support him would be the dynadty
kishnevi (a5d1b9) — 12/16/2014 @ 7:05 pmre #6: that was before he wanted the respect of MSM . Based on his support of Common Core and gutting immigration policy I am not trusting him to be a federalist or on foreign policy.
As much as I disliked Romney as a candidate, he did have Russia , Iran, Arab terrorism and Taliban pegged correctly. If Jeb Bush would start walking and talking about those foreign policy issues in the same way, I would start considering him. I think the American Economy is a basket case and not going to recover (if ever) for quite a few years anyway.
But I really want a true blue Federalist who realizes the Taliban are animals , Russia and Iran powder kegs ready to go off and that the Arab terrorist hate the USA just for being the USA – and is willing to say so.
seeRpea (01f6d3) — 12/16/2014 @ 7:07 pm(Hit submit too soon)
….would be the dynasty factor.
I think that if he does become the GOP nominee, you will not feel like you need to hold your nose when you vote for him.
kishnevi (3719b7) — 12/16/2014 @ 7:07 pmKish–the dynasty factor is certainly an issue. And it’s a significant one. Truth be told I kind of think Jeb’d have been a better President than W. I still don’t quite understand how that happened.
elissa (fb037f) — 12/16/2014 @ 7:19 pmAt least this keeps Rubio out. He can’t survive a fight for Florida delegates, nor for Florida cash.
Keep your eyes and ears open for Mike Pence, y’all.
Ed from SFV (3400a5) — 12/16/2014 @ 7:21 pmThe problem I have is that Jeb is a true conservative in a very difficult state that has grown in elderly population in dire need of services and he lost control of it in his last two years and that is something he didn’t want and regretted.
I can think of no one other than Perry that can lead us in 2016 and prepare the country for greatness and success
EPWJ (abd159) — 12/16/2014 @ 7:28 pmHis getting in the race is only an act of love.
norcal (929d5c) — 12/16/2014 @ 7:32 pmNever fear, the shining knight will arrive on his white steed momentarily.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 12/16/2014 @ 7:54 pmI can think of no one other than Perry that can lead us in 2016 and prepare the country for greatness and success
EPWJ (abd159) — 12/16/2014 @ 7:28 pm
He’d have to secure his release from Atascadero first, the leftwing sod.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 12/16/2014 @ 8:03 pmWoo Hoo! Romany and Boosh split a billion between them, a hundred bucks per vote.
DNF (1ed653) — 12/16/2014 @ 8:07 pm“Real conservative”
You keep using that terminology. We’ll just have to adapt and choose something else now that its meaningless.
DNF (1ed653) — 12/16/2014 @ 8:12 pmSo 2016 is the Republican war on citizens?
AZ_Langer (a65cb5) — 12/16/2014 @ 8:39 pmLast time around the Republican Party fielded an embarrassment of poorly credentialed dullards. Jeb couldn’t be any worse than Mitt and is clearly a whole lot better than Rick and Michelle. Not that I’d vote for any of them this time around.
ThOR (130453) — 12/16/2014 @ 8:43 pmYeah, cos Mitt was wrong on so many things/must I?
Gazzer (cb9ee2) — 12/16/2014 @ 8:58 pmThere have been exactly seventeen Presidential elections since the end of World War II.
With Nixon on the ticket, the GOP was 4-1.
With a Bush on the ticket, the GOP was 5-1.
Without a Bush or Nixon on the ticket, we were 0-6.
The last time the GOP won the White House without a Bush or Nixon on the ticket: 1928.
Estragon (ada867) — 12/16/2014 @ 11:04 pmIf they’re looking for a Republican presidential candidate for voters who don’t like Republicans very much, they should just get Huntsman to run again and cut out the middleman–at least Huntsman wouldn’t have the Bush Derangement Syndrome baggage to overcome along with his own inept campaigning skills.
M Scott Eiland (8d3966) — 12/17/2014 @ 1:28 amAll this running by relations to former presidents, let’s get serious. What are Ike’s grandkids up to these days? Anyone here from the Trumans? Maybe a Coolidge would actually be cool!
Retired Viking (ec5b91) — 12/17/2014 @ 1:57 amHEAR from the Trumans…
Retired Viking (ec5b91) — 12/17/2014 @ 1:57 am12. elissa (fb037f) — 12/16/2014 @ 7:19 pm
He lost a race in 1994 for Governor, while George W. Bush, won.
Sammy Finkelman (8bd44f) — 12/17/2014 @ 3:22 am@Retired Viking. This is only happening because of the extremely limited number of people who can run for President nowadays. At least that’s why he winds up near the top of the list.
Sammy Finkelman (8bd44f) — 12/17/2014 @ 3:24 am13. Rubio is still exploring, isn’t he?
http://www.westernjournalism.com/marco-rubio-getting-set-run-president-2016/#xckMKjQ5GfbHHGDy.97
Sammy Finkelman (8bd44f) — 12/17/2014 @ 3:26 am21. Not that Michele hasn’t her flaws, I’d have voted for her.
That despite an (R) after her name.
DNF (1ed653) — 12/17/2014 @ 4:18 amFrom an unlikely venue:
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/12/amnesty-what-really-happened-113605.html#.VJFvs2dAQ4c
DC is the enemy and we will not be turned aside.
DNF (1ed653) — 12/17/2014 @ 4:22 amBrad Thor:
DNF (1ed653) — 12/17/2014 @ 4:34 amWhere have all the bomb-throwers gone?
http://www.newsmax.com/Newswidget/republican-collapse-amnesty-illegals/2014/12/16/id/613415/
DNF (1ed653) — 12/17/2014 @ 4:50 am23. Exemplifying correlation is not causation.
DNF (1ed653) — 12/17/2014 @ 4:53 am24.Latest Fox News poll:
Romney dominates the field for the 2016 Republican nomination. He comes in at 19 percent among self-identified Republicans, followed by former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush at 10 percent. No other candidates garner double-digit backing.
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul each receive eight percent. Next, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker captures seven percent, followed by retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson and Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan each at six percent and Texas Sen. Ted Cruz at five percent.
Florida Sen. Marco Rubio (four percent), Ohio Gov. John Kasich (two percent), Texas Gov. Rick Perry (two percent), Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (one percent) and former Penn. Sen. Rick Santorum (one percent) each receive the backing of less than five percent of Republicans.
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Bush is the only GOP candidate tested in the hypothetical matchups to keep Clinton under 50 percent — and to keep her advantage under double digits. She leads him by just 7 points in a head-to-head matchup (49-42 percent), which makes this the best Bush has performed against Clinton so far. Clinton was up by 13 points in March (51-38 percent).
DNF (1ed653) — 12/17/2014 @ 5:41 amFWIW, I saw the Krautscheisster flat out lie, with Will concurring, that Cruz gave us the 88 confirmations, and that otherwise Reid would not have proceeded.
http://hotair.com/archives/2014/12/15/mike-lee-dont-blame-ted-cruz-and-me-for-letting-harry-reid-push-through-a-bunch-of-obamas-nominees/
Baier was on assignment at the Tejas border.
DNF (1ed653) — 12/17/2014 @ 5:51 amWhat are Ike’s grandkids up to these days? Anyone here from the Trumans? Maybe a Coolidge would actually be cool!
The Truman and Coolidge scions would appear to be completely unremarkable, which is about what you’d expect (and which Jeb Bush is not).
One of Eisenhower’s granddaughters married well (at least 2x) and is wealthy enough to buy and sell real estate with 7 and 8-digit prices. Another Eisenhower grand-daughter would appear to be a piece of work (3 divorces) and is some sort of consultant (or professional dignitary, who knows). The other two are…unremarkable. (It’s not clear how David Eisenhower has earned a living all these years. He appears to be semi-retired into an adjunct lecturer’s job at the University of Pennsylvania).
Art Deco (ee8de5) — 12/17/2014 @ 5:55 amJeb’s the GOP establishment’s candidate. If you think America is on the right track, if the status quo is right for you, if you’re OK with getting stabbed in the back by Boehner, if you like voting for make-believe conservatives who turn their coats once in office, if you support Obama’s amnesty, if you favor even more illegal immigration, if you support Common Core, if you don’t want to know what happened at Benghazi, if you despise the TEA Party, and if you see every problem as an opportunity to raise taxes and expand the federal bureaucracy then another Bush will lead you to the promised land.
ropelight (fd015f) — 12/17/2014 @ 5:57 amCombox sectaries (including those who eschew Austrian economics) have a problem: the 8.5% of adult Americans who actually vote in Republican primaries. The candidates who win or place or show in Republican primaries and who are attempting to rally a standing constituency in the party or advance certain issues or programs are commonly outside the realm of working politicians (Pat Robertson, Pat Buchanan, Steve Forbes, Alan Keyes, and, to a degree, Ron Paul) or are regarded with disdain (Gov. Huckabee) or indifference (Sen. Santorum) by the sort who chuffer about ‘true conservatives’ or give you such gems of wisdom as “McCain’s a RINO”.
“True conservatives” do not run, or they cannot raise the necessary funds and close up shop (Messrs. Brownback, Tancredo, and Pawlenty), or hardly anyone votes for them (Jack Kemp, Duncan Hunter, Michelle Bachmann), or are treated with disrespect when someone does vote for them (again, Huckabee and Santorum).
Art Deco (ee8de5) — 12/17/2014 @ 6:16 am24.Latest Fox News poll:
Latest name recognition metrics. Just about anyone presentable (i.e. not Ron Paul) will garner north of 45% of the vote against just about anyone the Democratic Party nominates, and better against the ghastly Mrs. Clinton, who’s been making a public nuisance of herself on the national stage for nearly 24 years.
Art Deco (ee8de5) — 12/17/2014 @ 6:21 amLast time around the Republican Party fielded an embarrassment of poorly credentialed dullards.
Actually, the fielded a self-made centimillionaire who’d built his own private equity business, turned around the Salt Lake City Olympics, served a term as as a state Governor, and had managed (long ago) to build a stellar academic record and had raised five children in the intervening years. They also fielded a retired obstetrician and a lapsed history professor. Neither is an occupation which attracts and retains dullards (and, while we’re at it, why is Sen. Santorum a ‘dullard’?).
Art Deco (ee8de5) — 12/17/2014 @ 6:28 amThe last time the GOP won the White House without a Bush or Nixon on the ticket: 1928.
And the only vp candidate of decisive importance in 80-odd years was Lyndon Johnson in 1960 (who was still treated with contempt by the Borgia brothers of Hyannisport and Hickory Hill).
Art Deco (ee8de5) — 12/17/2014 @ 6:36 amThe New York Times reports that Jeb Bush, following the advice of his campaign lawyer, Charles zR. Spies, did not actually set up an exploratory committee. He set up a ladership political action committee. Contributions to an exploratory committee would have been considered campaign contributions and lumped together with anything contributed to acampaign committee. (candidates set up exploratory committees in order to avoid some other kinds of rules)
This way, so long as he doesn’t (go further) he can raise the maximum amount from his donors, and then raise raise the maximum amount again when and if he makes a final decision.
Sammy Finkelman (8bd44f) — 12/17/2014 @ 9:08 amStupid question–What are ‘combox sectaries’?
DNF (1ed653) — 12/17/2014 @ 11:58 amComment Box Secretaries. In other words, commenters on blogs.
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Jeb Bush cut taxes and built a budget surplus as Governor. He also was business friendly. He was an effective governor and he has won re-election (first reelected republican in Florida).
I disagree with him on education and immigration and I’m sure many other things, but as far as establishment RINOs go, he’s not that bad. I am not a fan of dynasty politicians. But at least the Bush family are famous for the elections they won.
He won’t be my preference, but once you grant that he’s an establishment RINO he isn’t as bad as most establishment RINOs.
Dustin (2a8be7) — 12/17/2014 @ 2:18 pm