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Wouldn’t it?
Patterico (9c670f) — 10/30/2014 @ 7:38 amSomehow, the press will spin this story:
“Big Business Punishes Mary Burke”
“Mary Burke: First Victim of Trek’s War on Women”
MacGruber (121542) — 10/30/2014 @ 7:49 amhttp://www.redstate.com/2014/10/29/epa-ban-argon-one-largest-components-atmosphere/
DNF (384f70) — 10/30/2014 @ 7:50 amOuch.
Patricia (5fc097) — 10/30/2014 @ 8:23 amThat is going to make welding Aluminum very difficult DNF,
Rorschach (61bf43) — 10/30/2014 @ 8:44 amOT there DNF, but a great find, nonetheless.
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 10/30/2014 @ 8:47 amAt that rate, banning dihydrogen monoxide might get a serious proposal after all.
But, but it was a “voluntary” restructuring. She wasn’t fired, despite the people she managed who threatened to quit if she wasn’t removed. Despite that her group was loosing money when all the other groups were making money. Restructuring. Voluntary.
October surprise. đ
Tanny O'Haley (066e8f) — 10/30/2014 @ 8:53 amDo you know how dangerous dihydrogen monoxide is? A lot of people die each year because of dihydrogen monoxide, just ask Penn and Teller. Even scientists agree that dihydrogen monoxide is dangerous. Do you know that they use dihydrogen monoxide in torture? Get the facts! Science!
http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html
Okay, okay, I’m feeling a little sarcastic today. I blame and denounce JD.
Tanny O'Haley (066e8f) — 10/30/2014 @ 8:59 amI hope Walker wins. As Hugh Hewitt says, if it’s not close, they can’t cheat.
Obama has said that this election is about his agenda. If the republicans sweep the house and senate, does that mean he lost? That Obama has to work with the republicans, because he lost?
I won’t hold my breath.
Tanny O'Haley (066e8f) — 10/30/2014 @ 9:04 amI’m glad the EPA is banning Argon. Those noble gasses were getting way too uppity for my tastes. Probably has something to do with their name. It’s a microaggression or something.
JVW (60ca93) — 10/30/2014 @ 9:30 amNeon is next.
Kevin M (d91a9f) — 10/30/2014 @ 9:34 amWell, here’s the “explanation” but I find it unsatisfying and spin-like:
http://theweek.com/speedreads/index/270917/speedreads-no-the-epa-is-not-banning-argon
The problem is that, to include Argon in pesticides, perhaps by using air instead of nitrogen, a manufacturer would have to “go through the normal approval process”, which cannot be fast, cheap or certain. SO, yes, they ARE banning argon from pesticides, but allow that they might allow it again if someone asks.
BTW, Kamala Harris is involved.
Kevin M (d91a9f) — 10/30/2014 @ 9:39 amI imagine that Burke is claiming this is a smear and that her family is behind her 1000% percent.
Kevin M (d91a9f) — 10/30/2014 @ 9:51 amBurke’s brother — who reportedly was the one who instigated the firing, says now:
However, the initial report, from a highly-partisan person who left Trek under a cloud, has been confirmed by the person who was Trek President and COO at the time, and who left on good terms to take a CEO job elsewhere:
http://althouse.blogspot.com/2014/10/wisconsin-state-journal-runs-trek-fired.html
But also:
http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/scott-walker-paul-ryan-urge-voters-to-be-for-something-b99380639z1-280807982.html
Kevin M (d91a9f) — 10/30/2014 @ 10:05 amI left some comments in the wrong thread.
This is the original article in the Wisconsin Reporter that started it all:
http://watchdog.org/179822/mary-burke-trek-sales/
She probably cut the pay of everybody working for her by coming up with a whole new compensation system that made sense to her..
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 10/30/2014 @ 11:23 amâIâm not saying she was incompetent,â said Tom Albers, former Trek chief operating officer who left the company in 1997. âMaybe this job was too big for her.â
I’m not saying I was drunk. Maybe the whiskey was just too potent for me.
JVW (60ca93) — 10/30/2014 @ 11:31 amâMaybe this job was too big for her.â
Governor of Wisconsin should be just the right size, seriously.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 10/30/2014 @ 11:49 amSCIENCE!
Argon is still free for download at Arcadetown. [for now]
Fun game. Recommended. Probably why Kamalla Harris is against it. She can’t stand fun of any kind.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 10/30/2014 @ 11:57 amif only there was a public body, that had the means and ability to find these sorts of things out, and report them to the public in a timely fashion, so that the public could make an informed choice when they vote…
i’m pressed to say that they would be called though.
đ
redc1c4 (a6e73d) — 10/30/2014 @ 12:26 pmBest of the web Monday, September 22, 2014: Double Whammy / Mary Burke’s boilerplate jobs plan. She came back with:
and ran an ad to the effect that she would take good iudeas whereever they came from.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 10/30/2014 @ 1:22 pmShe sucked at the one job she could get due to nepotism.
Took a vacation.
Her family, not wanting to cause years of acrimony at holiday get togethers, eliminated her former position while she was off making life miserable for Argentinian tourism workers.
Is that about the gist?
papertiger (c2d6da) — 10/30/2014 @ 1:26 pmOf course these ideas were not selected because somebody thought they were good, but because somebody thought they sounded good.
Nor, apparently, are they anything that has actually been done, or even proposed by a sitting Governor.
And why then was the author fired?
See also http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/wisconsin-democratic-gubernatorial-candidate-plagiarized-lar#2p0xu9z
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 10/30/2014 @ 1:29 pmArgon is gone?
It all started with Pluto…
Patricia (5fc097) — 10/30/2014 @ 1:46 pmSee, Obama figured out how to avoid this problem.
By never having a real job â until he got a job that only a majority vote of the U.S. Senate could remove him from. He also arranged things so that his replacement is a laughingstock, to whom no one is going to be in a hurry to turn.
Beldar (fa637a) — 10/30/2014 @ 4:18 pmShe was not fired! Her compensation was strategically aligned with the value she accrued to the organization.
Robert C. J. Parry (cdd6a8) — 10/30/2014 @ 4:29 pmregarding the Argon story: the problem we have is that there isn’t anything so stupid that it’s impossible to believe this regime wouldn’t do it.
redc1c4 (589173) — 10/30/2014 @ 4:52 pmBeldar, one quibble. Doesn’t it take 2/3rds to expel a Senator? If not, I have a plan for next year…
Kevin M (d91a9f) — 10/30/2014 @ 6:27 pmThere’s lots of pesticides that go through the full approval process. (No, what they’re doing with argon does not count as banning it.)
Ibidem (d600ff) — 10/30/2014 @ 6:36 pmBut it’s stupidity to just go by whether it’s currently in use, and completely ignore chemistry. There’s a list of inert ingredients for a reason.
She wasn’t fired, she was decruited…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/30/2014 @ 6:50 pmburke was indefinitely idled,,, she was fumigated… a victim of a skill mix adjustment… vocationally relocated… degrowed…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/30/2014 @ 6:57 pmMary Burke was demised.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/30/2014 @ 6:59 pminvoluntary entrepreneurship?
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/30/2014 @ 7:33 pmThis is a setup for when argon is used in some pesticide manufacturing process. The manufacturer will have to prove that argon is not a danger … which is not possible. All brought to you by the Lawyer’s Full Employment Act.
htom (9b625a) — 10/30/2014 @ 8:31 pmA bicycle heiress wants us to know she doesn’t want to reinvent the wheel… wow… that is the mark of genius right there.
steveg (794291) — 10/30/2014 @ 8:37 pmUnconscious uncoupling from the bike place
elissa (24d227) — 10/30/2014 @ 8:46 pmDing, ding, ding! Winner!
Tanny O'Haley (066e8f) — 10/30/2014 @ 10:30 pm“Iâm not saying I was drunk. Maybe the whiskey was just too potent for me.”
JVW
Hilarious!
Georganne (e37667) — 10/31/2014 @ 8:53 am30. Colonel Haiku (2601c0) â 10/30/2014 @ 6:57 pm
burke was indefinitely idled,,,
She was brought back a year or two later, in another position.
She had had the job she was removed from a number of years – then she apparently decided to make some kind of changes, probably something that had the effect of reducing the compensation of most of the people working for her.
People started to quit and sales started to go down, and more would have quit if something wasn’t done.
And the empoloyees did this all without forming a union.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 10/31/2014 @ 9:14 am16 in https://patterico.com/2014/10/30/chris-christie-at-his-best thread
daleyrocks (bf33e9) â 10/30/2014 @ 2:56 pm
I wouldn’t have thought so from Mark Levin’s complainng about Christie not spending money on Walker, but then I wouldn’t rely on just that. My feeling is, if he won teh recall, he should win the election, too.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 10/31/2014 @ 9:25 am“I wouldnât have thought so from Mark Levinâs complainng about Christie not spending money on Walker”
Sammy – Levin’s show is one long complaint session. It’s what he does. It sounds like he omitted the polling in his rant, you can look it up if the NYT does not carry it.
What I don’t know and nobody has explained is how decisions are made to spend RGA money. I assume they have consultants and a committee and that the current Chair, whoever it happens to be, is not an absolute dictator. That’s why absent more information it seems like a convenient narrative to pile on Christie.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 10/31/2014 @ 9:37 amdaleyrocks (bf33e9) â 10/31/2014 @ 9:37 am
Sammy â Levinâs show is one long complaint session. Itâs what he does. It sounds like he omitted the polling in his rant, you can look it up if the NYT does not carry it.
Yes, I don’t think I heard it all, but I didn’t hear any mention of a poll. Levin made it sound like Walker was in danger of losing. He probably got that idea from somebody else somewhere online I would guess.
Levin was saying that Walker was being outspent – which is not the same thing as saying he was in danger of losing, or that the ads were effective.
Christie was offering to make personal appearances but Levin said Walker didn’t need (and maybe had said?) he didn’t need any ore surrogates – surrogates from Wisconsin are much better – what he needed was money.Levion said much more money was being spent on the more secure Michigan Governor’s race.
It sounds like he omitted the polling in his rant, you can look it up if the NYT does not carry it
Minneapolis Star-Tribune Updated: October 29, 2014 – 8:10 PM
Walker pulls ahead of Burke in last pre-election poll; Burke denies claim she was fired
Green bay Press-Gazette 2:45 p.m. CDT October 29, 2014 – that’s Wednesday.
Walker ahead in last poll before election
Walker is ahead 7 points now, 50 percent to 43 percent, according to Marquette Law School poll. An earlier poll two weeks previously had shown them tied at 47-47. So maybe Mark Levin was a little bit out of date. (the shift is mainly due to more people who identify as Republicans saying that they are certain to vote. Maybe it’s all those pro-Democratic ads.)
What I donât know and nobody has explained is how decisions are made to spend RGA money. I
assume they have consultants and a committee and that the current Chair, whoever it happens to be,
is not an absolute dictator. Thatâs why absent more information it seems like a convenient narrative to pile on Christie.
Of course, Christie could be blamed for relying on consultants or choosing them poorly – if it was a poor choice. He had one very poor choice for the top position at the RGA, whom he had to allow to not take the job because of the Port Authority Bridge lane closing incident – an he still doesn’t think or didn’t think that that person probably really did something wrong. Albeit for unclear reasons.
Christie is being accused of wanting to get rid of Walker – That’s what Mark Levin seemed to be accusing him of – because Walker was a possible Presidential candidate. Which is nonsense, or at least it would be a nonsensical strategy. If Christie runs, he can expect a number of competitors, not just one, and Walker would not be a particularly strong one. This is not like getting rid of Gary Hart in 1987.
Nor is Walker an ideological competitor. Christie would be best off hoping a number of people split the more conservative vote in the first primaries, so, he should want Walker in. And if Walker doesn’t run, Paul Ryan is more likely to, and Paul Ryan would be a stronger candidate – one I like a little bit.
I would not like it if Christie runs. Christie running might keep Jeb Bush or other better candidates out. I don;t know if Christie actually thinks he is ready.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 10/31/2014 @ 10:55 am7 poinits is still close. Remember, if it’s not close, they can’t win by cheating, because we know they cheat.
Tanny O'Haley (3bbc7b) — 10/31/2014 @ 11:59 am“That seems like that would be hard to do.”
Patterico – Wasn’t Fredo fired from the family business, permanently, or something?
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 10/31/2014 @ 9:53 pm42. Tanny O’Haley (3bbc7b) â 10/31/2014 @ 11:59 am
7 poinits is still close. Remember, if itâs not close, they canât win by cheating, because we know they cheat.
I think this might be a risk only if it is within 1% or 2%.
I saw a statistic: Democrats win much more than 50% of all statewide races decided by less than 1%.
http://thefederalist.com/2014/10/22/do-democrats-always-win-close-statewide-elections/
I don’t think the author of that web page understands that he’s provided statistical evidence of election fraud or biased recounts.
Because there is no reason that elections eventually decided by a margin of less than 1% should tilt so heavily Democratic.
Remember, this is not races that poll within 1%, but races that were eventually decided by such a margin.
What is the probability of that happenning simply by chance?
http://stattrek.com/online-calculator/binomial.aspx
Probability of success on a single trial – 50%
Number of trials = 27
Number of successes = 20
Cumulative Probability: P(X 20) 0.0096%
To put it another way, the probability that the Democratic Party would have won 20 out of the 27 closest statewide races from 1998 through 2013 purely by chance is….1%.
This has to indicate at least, that there is some kind of advance knowledge as to how the race is going. Democrats can be paying better attention to exit polls during the day, or advance voting, or even turnout, and increase their efforts to get out the vote when they are trailing, but the fact that it is close or that they are trailing, has to effect their get out the vote drive, or cause them to go to court and ask for an extension of voting hours or something like that. Or winning the election in the recount.
Sammy Finkelman (7bb55f) — 11/2/2014 @ 1:02 pmhttp://thefederalist.com/2014/10/22/do-democrats-always-win-close-statewide-elections/
There’s another thing this web page shows that shows a statistical bias. Republicans won 7 statewide races decided by less than 1%. 4 were by over half a percent and 3 were by less than half a percent. (the closest was the 2000 Florida Presidential race) So 57% of the races Republicans won by a margin of less than 1% were won by margin of over half a percent.
Not so the Democrats:
Democrats won 7 by more than half a percent, and 13 by less than half a percent. Or only 35% of the
statewide races won by a margin of less than 1% were won by margin of over half a percent.
That’s odd.
What were the closest races?
In addition to the Republican win of Florida in 2000 by less than 0.005% – a higher percentage rounds up to 0.1% – the Democrats won the Washington state Gubernatorial race of 2004 and the 2008 Minnesota Senate race by 0.0%.
0.1 is the 2000 Presidential race in Missouri won by the Republicans (where there might have been Democratic cheating, but not quite enough) and the New Mexico 2000 Presidential race by the Democrats, the 2000 Washington Senate race by the Democrats and 1998 Neveda Senate race.
0.2 has the Alabama Governor’s race by the Republicans, and by the Democrats, the South Dakota Senate race in 2002 (think Indian reservations) the Wisconsin preidential race in the year 2000.
The Republicans have nothing more till 0.6% (the 1998 Kentucky Senate race – Jim Bunning) but the Democrats have, at 0.3% the Iowa Presidential race in 2000, and the North Carolina Presidential race in 2008, and at 0.4%, the Wisconsin presidential race in 2004, the Virginia Senate race in 2006, the Minnesota Gubernatorial race in 2010, and the Oregon Presidential race in 2000. They also have the Conneticut Gubernatirial race in 2010 at 0.6%.
Wisconsin comes up twice in this list.
Cheating of some sort is a problem in Wisconsin, but, except for what might have been done before Election Day with ineligible registrations or absentee ballots cast by other people, it probably needs to be within about 1% otherwise. They can’t do anything with a 7% margin.
Sammy Finkelman (7bb55f) — 11/2/2014 @ 1:08 pm