Welcome Guest Poster Dana! Topic: “College Kids Win, Administration Loses”
Commenter “Dana” is a long-time reader of this blog and often sends valuable tips. Almost half the content in recent weeks has been based on her tips (and another half is based on tips from another reader). I recently offered Dana the opportunity to provide content on this blog for no renumeration whatsoever, and for some reason she accepted. We didn’t have time to work it out where she could post using her own account, which is fine, because I wanted to write an introduction to her post anyway. Please welcome her to the blog. What follows is Dana’s post:
[Guest post by Dana]
The last we checked in with those crazy kids at Dartmouth, they were threatening to wreak some havoc if their demands were not met by the administration. Their set deadline was March 24th, 2014, and demands included, but were not limited to: Greater diversity in the faculty and post-doctoral program as well as an increase in enrollment for Black, Latino, and Native American students to 10 percent of the student population each. All students be required to take classes on “social justice” and “marginalization,” that gender-neutral housing be available for all students, and that restrictions on the use of the term “illegal immigrants” be imposed.”
They indicated if the administration did not respond accordingly, those who believe in freedom will be forced to physical action.
Well, not surprisingly, the threat worked and Dartmouth’s administration rolled over. In a statement posted on the campus website, President Philip J. Hanlon and Interim Provost Martin Wybourne reassured students:
We hear your concerns about ensuring that Dartmouth is not only diverse in numbers, but also a place where all community members thrive. And we hear your desire to share your ideas with us and to engage with us on these and other important issues. We couldn’t agree with you more. Diversity is one of the cornerstones of our academic community and, like you, we want Dartmouth to be a campus where our students gain the confidence and skills to work and lead in a global society.
These are a few of the concessions:
• More than $30 million will be invested in the Society of Fellows program to bring recent post-doctorates to campus. Post-doctoral programs have been an effective tool for recruiting diverse faculty from other campuses.
• Dartmouth will provide $1 million in recurring funds to support the cost of hiring faculty who bring diverse perspectives to campus.
The statement concludes:
Our vision for Dartmouth is limited only by the energy and engagement we invest in it. Now is the time to make your investment by actively participating in campus discourse that encourages a continuous and healthy exchange of ideas.
Because nothing says actively participating in healthy discourse and encouraging a continuous and healthy exchange of ideas quite like threatening violence.
— Dana
Ding.
Patterico (9c670f) — 3/12/2014 @ 7:45 amExcellent post, Dana. You write well and have a knack for picking interesting topics. I’m glad you will be posting here.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 3/12/2014 @ 7:49 amHip, hip, hooray for Dana! Patterico’s Pontifications gets some (more) diversity of its own!
felipe (6100bc) — 3/12/2014 @ 8:03 amWhat? You offered me a chance to write for Patterico? I guess that I missed that e-mail. Darn it!
The baffled Dana (3e4784) — 3/12/2014 @ 8:16 amI am so happy to see this Dana. As a commenter you have shown that you have a wide range of interests. I am very sure I will learn from your posts and also that your posts will likely cause us all to think.
I’m not a Dartmouth grad but if I were I know exactly how I’d respond to the administration’s apparent costly capitulation to what at least appears to be mostly demands for political correctness and faux “diversity” rather than improvement in academic excellence. Alas, there was once a time in the not so distant past when college teachers were sought out and hired because they were actually the best and most respected in their field–not for their color, or political orientation.
I also recall that when Harvard went on a (forced) kick to add diversity to their faculty they ended up with Fauxcahantas. Good luck, Dartmouth!
elissa (5beb7b) — 3/12/2014 @ 8:24 amNothing like diminishing the value of a dartmouth education than diluting it with more affirmative action students and professors.
Way to go commies!
Jim (145e10) — 3/12/2014 @ 8:33 amgiving monies to American colleges and universities is a lot like writing a check to a shadowy cabal of fascist anti-american whoresluts
or like writing a check to the National Republican Senatorial Committee
You do not want to be this person.
happyfeet (8ce051) — 3/12/2014 @ 8:35 amJust curious, Jim, are you a Dartmouth Alum?
felipe (6100bc) — 3/12/2014 @ 8:40 amdemands are now met
Colonel Haiku (228503) — 3/12/2014 @ 8:44 amlet’s tear roof of teh suckah!
got real type o’thang
i think DRJ ought to be a guest poster here too.
😎
redc1c4 (abd49e) — 3/12/2014 @ 8:44 amDRJ was a guest poster in the past. Yeah, let’s bring her back, too.
felipe (6100bc) — 3/12/2014 @ 8:46 amI am a fan of both Dana and Adjective Dana.
SPQR (768505) — 3/12/2014 @ 8:57 amGreat addition to the guest posters. Welcome, Dana. I look forward to your postings.
htom (412a17) — 3/12/2014 @ 9:02 amDartmouth has been sliding since it went co-ed. Not sexism, exactly, but it sure has “evolved” as they say.
MikeK (cd7278) — 3/12/2014 @ 9:05 amYay Dana!
Crabbygoat (66002a) — 3/12/2014 @ 9:06 amSo, Dartmouth’s policy is to negotiate with terrorists.
Just so we are clear.
I agree with Dana that what occurred is reprehensible. But I also wonder whether there’s an element of kabuki theater.
In the 50’s a college administration was less likely to be full-bore, nutjob leftist (even if it were 90% staffed with Adlai Stevenson voters).
But today? Administrators disproportionately come, themselves, from leftist/ activist backgrounds. Just because they put on a suit and draw $400k/ year in their Assistant Vice Under-Provost For Diversity positions, doesn’t mean they aren’t still copacetic with the student leftists.
So they secretly welcome these protests, I suspect, at least to a degree. The protests by young leftists of 2014 give the older ones in power an excuse to expand funding and power for lefty programs, departments, etc. even further.
Mitch (341ca0) — 3/12/2014 @ 9:18 amW00t! Dana!
Offering violence for “democratic” change seems to be standard leftist procedure. Dartmouth was always going to give into them, it was just a matter of time.
Americans in general have lost their balls. Men without chests as Lewis would say. Good luck with that.
Vivian Louise, AKA Mrs. The Everlasting Phelps (9cfa92) — 3/12/2014 @ 9:26 amAs I said when this was brought up before, the recent narrative at Madison, Wisconsin is that the university administration was responsible for the 1970 Sterling Hall bombing because they did not give in to protester’s demands.
(BTW, I don’t know what that family with the 22 pound tabby was so worried about, they should try dealing with a 122 pound spotted cat!!)
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 3/12/2014 @ 9:34 amWe’re glad to see the pretty Dana here
The Limerick Avenger (3e4784) — 3/12/2014 @ 9:39 amPat’s readers all give her a cheer
That other Dana’s lame
He just ain’t the same
He writes like he’s had too much beer!
diamond in da back
Colonel Haiku (228503) — 3/12/2014 @ 9:45 amsunroof top Dana’s teh scene
with a gangsta lean……………..woohoo!!!
I don’t think we need to wonder if there’s an element of kabuki theater, not in the land of the hate crime hoax.
Steve57 (927d18) — 3/12/2014 @ 9:46 amOoh, yeah, it isn’t as if professors are above engaging in violence themselves. Via Instapudit.
http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/16673/
Steve57 (927d18) — 3/12/2014 @ 9:49 amThe fact that Dartmouth negotiated at all is ridiculous.
mg (31009b) — 3/12/2014 @ 9:49 amCongrats-Dana
mg (31009b) — 3/12/2014 @ 9:51 amThis Dana can write
The Limerick Avenger (3e4784) — 3/12/2014 @ 9:55 amMuch better than the Colonel
Pat needs to pay her!
Dartmouth folded? That’s no great surprise
The Limerick Avenger (3e4784) — 3/12/2014 @ 9:58 amWe knew that they weren’t very wise
The libs we all knew
Have not got a clue
And the things that they say are all lies.
The diversiteh demands`a`shoe post, Dana!
elissa (5beb7b) — 3/12/2014 @ 10:00 amWelcome, Dana. I don’t know if you are the Dana who does this or that, or just plain Dana, but welcome anyway.
As to the Dartmouth situation I went to college so long ago (’70 grad) that I don’t think I’d recognize a college campus if I stumbled over one. I went to be educated (on the GI Bill) and we had very little demos. Most of the people were there to learn, even the young ones (I started at age 26 and was the oldest person in many classes).
Whatever happened to learning?
Andy (b63f79) — 3/12/2014 @ 10:02 amhiring faculty who bring diverse perspectives to campus.
That’s an Orwellian use of the phrase “diverse perspectives”
But of course the lie is that it is biograohy that determines perspective.
And that the biography is so different, and that differences in biography are associated only with who your great grandfather was is another lie.
Sammy Finkelman (4eebb9) — 3/12/2014 @ 10:05 am“I went to college so long ago (’70 grad) that I don’t think I’d recognize a college campus if I stumbled over one.”
I am class of ’60 and my kids started graduating in ’83 and the last in 2013. I have watched the deterioration from the parent’s vantage point and it is sickening. My youngest daughter’s study guide for her class on “American History since 1877” had a number of false statements, including “The silent Majority was made up of white people who refused to accept the Civil Rights Act of 1964.” No mention of Vietnam and Nixon.
It also informed the students (These were the “right answers” for the final) that “settlers in the West learned to farm from the Native Americans”, the hunter gatherer tribes like the Apaches.
These are true examples.
MikeK (cd7278) — 3/12/2014 @ 10:24 amMr Finkelman wrote:
Kind of like an unfortunate Supreme Court Justice who said, “I would hope that a wise Latina woman, with the richness of her experiences, would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”
The Dana who didn't write the main article (3e4784) — 3/12/2014 @ 10:24 amThe greatest gift a parent can impart is a healthy, unbounded sense of entitlement.
gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 3/12/2014 @ 10:24 amTwo Danas. Who knew? It took a while for this time-addled brain to get there… but now I know.
Well done, ma’am. I look forward to more.
gramps, the original (7c51ac) — 3/12/2014 @ 10:56 amAndy asked:
Why do you need to learn when you already know it all?
The older Dana (3e4784) — 3/12/2014 @ 11:16 amSo Dartmouth is going to cough up $30 million to hire some post-doc fellows, which is probably as useless a way of spending that money as they possibly could have come up with.
Do you think that Ivy League schools are so fantastically wealthy that they can afford to have superfluous faculty members roaming around their halls? Columbia University might beg to differ.
And congratulations to Dana for the well-deserved guest-blogging gig.
JVW (9946b6) — 3/12/2014 @ 11:18 amOur Philadelphia physician wrote:
Do you have such a critter?
The Dana with cats (3e4784) — 3/12/2014 @ 11:20 amIt’s for the children:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/03/feminist-studies-professor-assault-teen-pro-life-protester/
gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 3/12/2014 @ 11:24 amJVW wrote:
I believe that you have misunderestimated Dartmouth’s, or any major university’s, ability to find useless ways to waste money.
The highly edumacated Dana (3e4784) — 3/12/2014 @ 11:26 ami can only think
Colonel Haiku (cb438a) — 3/12/2014 @ 11:27 amSt. Mario Savio’s
spinning in his grave
Interesting article, Dana. I trust it will be the first of many, as I’ve long appreciated your take on a whole host of eclectic topics.
Charlotte in Africa (69f473) — 3/12/2014 @ 11:28 amJVW,
It is hard to understand how Dartmouth can spend that much money on something that helps so few students, let alone why they would do it under duress. Also, if I were a graduate who gives money to Dartmouth, I’d be very troubled to see how they were spending my donation. I doubt Dartmouth would be as responsive if Dartmouth alumni wrote similar manifestos demanding they fire administrators and discard useless departments, but maybe they should.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 3/12/2014 @ 11:29 amtoo old school for you?
Colonel Haiku (cb438a) — 3/12/2014 @ 11:31 amokay that frostback Tom Green dude
what will he NOT say?
old geezer weasels
Colonel Haiku (cb438a) — 3/12/2014 @ 11:34 amcollege administrators
overpaid ninnies
I believe that you have misunderestimated Dartmouth’s, or any major university’s, ability to find useless ways to waste money.
Well, that’s a point well-taken. They certainly could have built a Black/Chican@/LGBTQ Student Center instead, but on the other hand building that student center would at least have created some construction jobs for people who actually work for a living. I’m actually not sure if I could think of a way of getting less bank for the buck academically than bringing in a bunch of post-docs. Especially since (to tie in the news that Steve57 mentions in comment 22 and gary gulrund mentions in post 37) they will probably bring in post-docs who specialize in “diversity” like this winner from UCSB. Academic claptrap at its finest.
JVW (9946b6) — 3/12/2014 @ 11:35 amDRJ wrote:
Your statement assumes that such decisions are taken by people with backbones. It is remanded back to you for further consideration without such an assumption being taken.
The Dana pointing out the obvious (3e4784) — 3/12/2014 @ 11:36 am45. I suspect they’re re-purposing budgeted expenditures.
Probably were already angling to get in on the Dickinson College windfall.
gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 3/12/2014 @ 11:38 amWe can joke about how useless they are, Obvious Dana, and they are. But there really is no excuse for caving into extortion by a small group of students. Clearly, spending other people’s money in a responsible way is not part of the diversity training at Dartmouth or many universities.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 3/12/2014 @ 11:39 amDartmouth brings a new definition to the term, “March Madness.”
Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 3/12/2014 @ 11:42 amOr something.
Also, my alma mater also thinks diversity is its primary mission, so I’m not completely blaming Dartmouth. But I would honestly be surprised if the administration allowed itself to be extorted by student demands to the tune of $30M. If they did, I have no doubt that alumni donations would be impacted.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 3/12/2014 @ 11:42 amCongrats, Dana. I’ve been reading and posting (useless ?!) comments on this fine site for a few years. Looks like Patrick just upped its “classy level”-!
The good guys at PowerLineBlog are mostly Dartmouth grads and write about that campus’s descent into the liberal quicksand often, so I know about the fine way that these privileged Ivy League students chose to present their petitions. Personally, I’d have chosen to have the campus police show up with their rock salt loaded shotguns, chamber a round with a chorus of “ka-chunks-!”, and ask just what kind of physical action these students had in mind. Oh, and by the way, everybody still here in five minutes is placed on a two-semester probation.
But, alas, that makes sense and might (perish the thought-!!) hurt somebody’s feelings, so, no, Dartmouth said, “Ok, done, what else would you like..?”
NeoCon_1 (062f23) — 3/12/2014 @ 11:45 amAlso, if I were a graduate who gives money to Dartmouth, I’d be very troubled to see how they were spending my donation.
DRJ, the Powerline guys are Dartmouth alums. As of this very moment, they have yet to weigh in on the capitulation of their alma mater, but I imagine they will have something to say about it soon. This was their most recent post on the shenanigans in Hanover.
I doubt Dartmouth would be as responsive if Dartmouth alumni wrote similar manifestos demanding they fire administrators and discard useless departments. . .
This would be something we would hope the Koch brothers would do, but they are alums of MIT and thus far MIT has not gone down the path of utterly worthless departments (though that is not to say that they have not succumbed to the temptation of offering racial grievance courses).
JVW (9946b6) — 3/12/2014 @ 11:49 amThe Ivy League is bush league. Or whatever.
Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 3/12/2014 @ 11:51 amDid they negotiate at all? This post was put up earlier at NRO:
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/373206/correction-dartmouth-caves-student-threats-alec-torres#comments
If professors are willing to fake hate crimes against themselves, I wouldn’t put it past them to pretend to be students in an anonymously written manifesto. Or to put students up to this. What else do the ethnic and gender grievance professors have to do other than agitate their students. We see this at all levels of the indoctrination industry formerly known as the education system. Recall how after Sandy Hook the President used children who had written him letters asking him to do something about assault weapons as props in his Potemkin pressers. Of course, it wasn’t the students’ idea; these were writing assignments. The kids had to write those letters.
I get the impression the Dartmouth administration was lobbying itself. We see the same sort of mechanism at work when the EPA gives millions of dollars in grants to environmental groups so the groups can sue the EPA to compel it to do something it wanted to do all along. Regulate more stuff.
http://www.science20.com/science_20/epa_sued_animal_activists_it_real-119347
Once a judge signs off on the settlement, the new EPA enforcement action has the force of law.
In this case, we know that the “settlement” at Dartmouth was negotiated in advance.
http://www.cato.org/blog/epa-gives-millions-enviro-groups-sue-it
Considering how common these practices are, and the natural inclinations of the kind of people running Dartmouth, my default position is that they were negotiating with no one but themselves. They put on a dog-and-pony show designed to make it look like there was some massive demand for what they wanted to do all along.
Steve57 (927d18) — 3/12/2014 @ 12:05 pmBy “diverse perspectives” they of course mean rigid ideological conformity.
But in in the age of “uncontested arrivals” but not invasions, “man caused disaster” and not terrorism, and when we make “kinetic military actions” and not war, this is par for the course.
It’s what you get when you put the 50 year old perpetual college freshmen in charge of anything. They think Orwell was writing owner’s manuals for how to run an organization.
Steve57 (927d18) — 3/12/2014 @ 12:15 pmBecause nothing says actively participating in healthy discourse and encouraging a continuous and healthy exchange of ideas quite like threatening violence.
So cool.
AZ Bob (c949f7) — 3/12/2014 @ 12:17 pmDRJ nailed the problem:
It used to be that universities’ primary mission was education students in a manner which would enable them to become leaders and professionals in the real world. There was obviously some training for future academics, but that seems to have taken over everything. Note the wonderful associate professor JVW linked — what the heck does an Associate Professor in Feminist Studies with areas of study including Pornography; Sex Work; Black Film, Popular Culture and Art; Feminist & Queer Theory; African American & African Diaspora Studies; Visual Archives; New Media; Ethnography; Oral History teach to prepare students for a profession outside of academia? — and her useless work. Under any sane system, disciplines which prepared students only for academia would never be full departments, but that’s not how things go these days.
The education nonprofessional Dana (3e4784) — 3/12/2014 @ 12:21 pmComment by The Dana with cats (3e4784) — 3/12/2014 @ 11:20 am
I had to kick Painted Jaguar off of the computer to post.
“The silent Majority was made up of white people who refused to accept the Civil Rights Act of 1964.”
Comment by MikeK (cd7278) — 3/12/2014 @ 10:24 am
That is so ridiculously sad that I’m not even going to think about it.
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 3/12/2014 @ 12:24 pmIt’s great to have Dana on as a guest poster,
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 3/12/2014 @ 12:29 pmbut so that she doesn’t get overworked, I hear Sharyl Attkisson is available.
Another voice added to the chorus chronicling the demise of a once great educational institution.
askeptic (2bb434) — 3/12/2014 @ 12:40 pmThere cannot be too many, and this one is welcome.
Just a reminder to those who can be confrontational:
askeptic (2bb434) — 3/12/2014 @ 12:45 pmThis Dana has a habit of engaging in shoe-recycling.
Comment by The education nonprofessional Dana (3e4784) — 3/12/2014 @ 12:21 pm
It’s just an insult to the idea of basic standards of university-level scholarship that these types of courses, departments, and professors exist. This academic falderal is to education as cupcakes and corn-syrup soft drinks are to nutrition, and every time I vote against a tax increase to support higher education in California I think of garbage like this.
JVW (9946b6) — 3/12/2014 @ 12:50 pmJVW, the guys at Powerline do report extensively on the shenanigans at Dartmouth. And, by extrapolation, the shenanigans throughout higher education. Which has now filtered down to primary education.
Here were two recent posts of theirs:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/01/dartmouth-doubles-down-on-unserious-leftist-academics.php
And perhaps more revealingly:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/02/all-in-for-dartmouth-i-think-not.php
The hypocrisy on the part of college administrators is breathtaking, as Paul Mirengoff observes. The Dartmouth administration adopted all the measures the anonymous “Freedom Budgeteers” demanded. Thus demonstrating that hiring and tenure decisions, what will and won’t be taught, are subject to a great deal of administration control. When they choose to exercise their control. Yet it’s out of their hands when it’s more convenient.
This is why this theatrical production playing out at Dartmouth reminds me of the dance agencies like the EPA does with the environmental groups it sees as its true constituency. The settlement is already negotiated before the lawsuit is ever filed. The EPA just needs for it to look like they’re unwillingly complying with a court settlement. It can’t look like what it really is; the EPA is getting help from its friends to enable it to do what it wanted to do all along.
So I don’t believe this is a capitulation. I don’t believe the Dartmouth administrators knuckled under because they didn’t have the backbone to stand up to threats of violence.
They certainly would have resisted if it was something they didn’t want to do. But since they believe diversity really is their job, why would they resist what only looked like arm twisting? It’s like having an alcoholic try to convince you that he didn’t want to go on a bender last night, but only went under duress because his two life-long best friends threatened to beat him up.
Steve57 (927d18) — 3/12/2014 @ 1:15 pmWell Said, Steve57, well said.
askeptic (2bb434) — 3/12/2014 @ 1:25 pmWhere did Sheila Jackson Lee go to college?
Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D., Texas) declared the U.S. Constitution to be 400 years old Wednesday on the House floor, which would mean it was signed in 1614.
“Maybe I should offer a good thanks to the distinguished members of the majority, the Republicans, my chairman and others, for giving us an opportunity to have a deliberative constitutional discussion that reinforces the sanctity of this nation and how well it is that we have lasted some 400 years, operating under a constitution that clearly defines what is constitutional and what is not,” she said.
That would be seven years after Jamestown, Virginia became America’s first permanent English settlement.
Lee is off by only 173 years
Our country is in the very best of hands.
http://freebeacon.com/sheila-jackson-lee-thinks-the-constitution-is-400-years-old/
elissa (5beb7b) — 3/12/2014 @ 1:41 pmYale and the University of Virginia, not reassuring.
narciso (3fec35) — 3/12/2014 @ 1:46 pmThe hypocrisy is hard to ignore, askeptic.
Colleges will host events like this:
http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/12730/
And college professors will give students assignments like this:
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/03/21/fau-student-claims-he-was-suspended-for-refusing-to-step-on-jesus/
And then issue mind-numbingly self-unaware statements like this:
Why self-unaware? Because these same hypocrites will turn around and ban speech if it offends left-wing ideologues and issue a statement about “creating an inclusive environment” and how “somebody might be offended.”
By “dialogue and debate” they mean a one way conduit for approved group think. You can have the same administrators be ok with the display of plaster casts of girls are encouraged to make of their genitalia in the library (I’m told by the profs in the “Wymyn’s studies” dept. that’s somehow empowering) yet they’ll worry that somebody will be “offended” if they see a US flag.
Sandra Korn of Harvard has adopted the ideology thoroughly.
http://www.thecrimson.com/column/the-red-line/article/2014/2/18/academic-freedom-justice/
I especially enjoyed this paragraph.
She sums up academia and increasingly our politics. It is tempting to decry things by calling them what they are. But we must not give into that temptation! Instead we must deny the truth in the name of justice. And the fewer thoughts we are exposed to, the more thoughtful we will be.
Would you hire anyone who would write something like that?
Steve57 (927d18) — 3/12/2014 @ 2:00 pmYale. Figures. Apparently the Ivy League has been waging a war on standards for several decades. And judging by the fact that Sandra Korn not only writes like that, but that the Harvard Crimson thinks that bilge is suitable for publication, their war on standards has been hugely successful.
Steve57 (927d18) — 3/12/2014 @ 2:06 pmThanks, everyone, for the kind welcome. While I feel profoundly unqualified to guest post, I am very appreciative for the opportunity. I just hope I don’t blow it too badly.
With regard to your comment below, Mike K, as Dartmouth went co-ed in 1972, do you see the ‘evolution’ reflecting more on the men that were there or the incoming women? Do you think it would have occurred, anyway, without the the admittance policy change?
Dartmouth has been sliding since it went co-ed. Not sexism, exactly, but it sure has “evolved” as they say.
Dana (64069d) — 3/12/2014 @ 2:10 pmSheila Jackson Lee and her family are well-educated and she is married to a university vice president, so theoretically she should be more informed about history than the average person:
Sadly, this isn’t the worst of Lee’s quotes. Here are other classic Sheila Jackson Lee gaffes. Sadder still, the woman who thinks her constituents are ill-informed also thinks Neil Armstrong went to Mars. Her predecessor in office, Barbara Jordan, should really be turning in her grave.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 3/12/2014 @ 2:10 pmWiki says Lee graduated from Jamaica High School in Queens. She should have learned historical dates in junior high or high school American history, so I blame Queens.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 3/12/2014 @ 2:12 pmAll of those institutions that are associated with Lee, if they had any moral spine, would be asking for their certifications back: HS Diploma, BA, JD.
askeptic (2bb434) — 3/12/2014 @ 2:20 pmBut, that also would require that the people running them know what is wrong with what she said.
I’m not prepared to make that assumption.
DRJ, it’s hard to believe that it’s possible to get a BA in Political Science from any university in the country and still be completely unaware of when the US Constitution was written and ratified.
So I still blame Yale
Steve57 (927d18) — 3/12/2014 @ 2:26 pmI wonder if she knows when the Magna Carta was signed?
askeptic (2bb434) — 3/12/2014 @ 2:32 pmOr even what it is?
And don’t let VA Law off the hook; attaining a JD without knowing when the Constitution was written, and ratified, is not some great accomplishment.
Sheila Jackson Lee?
Colonel Haiku (cb438a) — 3/12/2014 @ 2:52 pmYe Gods I would rather date
surly wildebeest
I wonder if she knows when the Magna Carta was signed?
Or even what it is?
Let’s not tell Obama. I live in fear that he will show up at some giant 800th anniversary ceremony on the fields of Runnymeade next year and give a ponderous and self-referential speech about the rights of the individual, which he so happily violates on a daily basis.
JVW (9946b6) — 3/12/2014 @ 2:55 pm53-Steve57
mg (31009b) — 3/12/2014 @ 3:45 pmI had no idea.
Troubling.
New college courses:
Goose Stepping 101
Brownshirt Basics 101
Homecoming Dance theme: Kristallnacht
PerfectSense (4d5c72) — 3/12/2014 @ 4:13 pm“I wonder if she (Sheila Jackson Lee) knows when the Magna Carta was signed?”
Sheila probably thinks that the Magna Carta is a large bottle of champagne.
PerfectSense (4d5c72) — 3/12/2014 @ 4:19 pmBS subjects may be useless to the students, bu they are not useless to those who want to indoctrinate them.
— Ilya Ivanovich, where is your daughter these days?
nk (dbc370) — 3/12/2014 @ 5:08 pm— Didn’t you hear, Ivan Ilyich? She got accepted into the Felix Dzhershinsky School of Veterinary Medicine two years ago.
— Two years ago? Wonderful. She must know an awful lot about animals by now.
— She hasn’t started that yet. They just got to the 1924 Congress of the CPSU.
And I have mixed feelings about Dana posting. Now I have to clean up my jokes.
nk (dbc370) — 3/12/2014 @ 5:10 pmSo they secretly welcome these protests, I suspect, at least to a degree. The protests by young leftists of 2014 give the older ones in power an excuse to expand funding and power for lefty programs, departments, etc. even further.
This would not surprise me in the least. What you describe tracks with the leftist practice of enviro-whack is suing the EPA who promptly rolls over and consents to a settlement, which gives $ to their ideological ally, while ratcheting up regulations. Win win for them. Lose lose for everyone else.
JD (eea907) — 3/12/2014 @ 6:45 pmNevermind. I see that point was addressed much earlier, and considerably more thoroughly above.
JD (eea907) — 3/12/2014 @ 6:51 pmProbably too thoroughly. A bad habit.
Also, I’m still not convinced that this “freedom budget” was written by anonymous students as claimed. It reads like it was written by the faculty. The identity politics professors who teach nonsense-based grievance studies have demonstrated time and again that they’re willing to commit fake hate crimes and file false police reports to advance their agenda.
And if you recall, when the unions were fighting Scott Walker’s attempts to bring fiscal sanity to the state, both residents and staff at the University of Wisconsin School of Medicine and Public Health handed out fake doctors’ notes so the teachers wouldn’t have an unexcused absence. So they were participating in a fraud.
If this is what passes for ethics in academia, then why should anyone just accept at face value that the Dartmouth communist manifesto was actually written by students as claimed?
As an aside, I’m surprised that anything at all came from Medical Examining Board and the university investigations into those doctors fraudulent notes.
http://www.nbc15.com/home/headlines/Doctor_Notes_Provided_For_Protesting_Teachers_116544948.html
Steve57 (5d6714) — 3/12/2014 @ 7:34 pm.
… Where’s the administration of Kent State when you REALLY need them…? 😀
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Smock Puppet, "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses." (225d0d) — 3/12/2014 @ 9:36 pmMr 57 wrote:
George Bush — both of them — went to Yale, so therefore, it’s obviously George Bush’s fault!
The University of Kentucky alumnus Dana (3e4784) — 3/13/2014 @ 3:37 amJVW wrote:
And that would pretty much fall right in line with King John’s attitude toward Magna Carta. But the good news is that the King went to his eternal reward just a year later.
The historian Dana (3e4784) — 3/13/2014 @ 3:45 amI just have to ask:
The Haiku Avenger (3e4784) — 3/13/2014 @ 3:47 amWould Colonel date wildebeest,
Or is this past tense?
Great post, DAna.
It always boils down to the Benjamins, doesn’t it?
Our little protestors are going to get rich.
Patricia (be0117) — 3/13/2014 @ 10:00 amI didn’t attend Dartmouth, but I once got a good education from a stripper named “Ivy.”
And my tuition only cost me a couple hundred bucks !
I didn’t have to pay for room & board, because we went back to her place.
Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 3/13/2014 @ 10:38 amLate to the party here but dittoing everyone above — this is awesome. Delighted to see Dana guest posting.
Interesting article, Dana. I trust it will be the first of many, as I’ve long appreciated your take on a whole host of eclectic topics.
Comment by Charlotte in Africa (69f473) — 3/12/2014 @ 11:28 am
Yep.
no one of consequence (325a59) — 3/13/2014 @ 1:51 pmI remember her
Colonel Haiku (4f0257) — 3/13/2014 @ 2:34 pmyou must’ve been shocked Stones by
Ivy’s hairy root
Guess what! The campus liberal student groups say Dartmouth’s 30 million dollar diversity commitment is not enough.
http://weaselzippers.us/179502-dartmouth-liberal-student-groups-that-threatened-physical-action-if-affirmative-action-demands-not-met-say-schools-30-million-diversity-commitment-not-enough/
elissa (ab9919) — 3/15/2014 @ 4:27 pmYou do know the Northwestern Wildcats cheer, don’t you elissa? “It’s all right, it’s ok, you will work for us some day”.
nk (dbc370) — 3/15/2014 @ 5:09 pmYes, but that was at athletic events to jeer the other schools’ teams and students after they beat the Cats on the sports field, nk.
elissa (ab9919) — 3/15/2014 @ 5:19 pmSame principle. Learn football or learn queer studies in college, they’re both good only in the academic cocoon.
nk (dbc370) — 3/15/2014 @ 5:26 pmI am not downplaying your post — I’m mocking the feebs. They’d better have trust funds from their grandparents.
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elissa (b364f8) — 4/7/2014 @ 5:27 am98. Snigger.
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