Patterico's Pontifications

This guy is thinking about how clever he is:

“Gee, I can pay the small penalty and wait until I actually need health care. They have to take me because Obama made them take people with preexisting conditions. Isn’t America great! More hot chocolate, Mom!”

AZ Bob (ade845) — 12/19/2013 @ 8:03 am

he’d be WAY better off using the health insurance monies to pay down his student loans

happyfeet (8ce051) — 12/19/2013 @ 8:07 am

Dump the hot chocolate over his head and he looks a bit like Barack Obama.

ropelight (846eca) — 12/19/2013 @ 8:13 am

There is a collection of photoshops on this over at PowerLine, some of which are funny.
But not all of the post is ideal.

It has been brought up that many of us thought that the “Life of Julia” cartoon glorifying dependence on the government for one’s entire life cycle was ridiculous and revealing too, but in the end the joke was on us, for way too many people think this stuff is great.

It just came to me that this has all of the appeal of indefinite adolescence, you get to play around with adult-style privileges when you want without owning up to adult-style responsibilities.

Yeah, that sounds about right.

MD in Philly (f9371b) — 12/19/2013 @ 8:21 am

Thanks, MD, I don’t know how I could have missed the uncanny resemblance to Rachel Maddow. Unless, of course, it’s that I see or think of her so infrequently.

ropelight (846eca) — 12/19/2013 @ 8:38 am

Bite me, generation clueless. You voted that buffoon in office, and are too stupid to ralize you’ve been played. Hopefully you got marshmallows with your hot chocolate.

the bhead (fbcafb) — 12/19/2013 @ 8:38 am

Ha, ha, ha. That’s how I see Obama. Even though I saw this yesterday, I can’t stop laughing now.

nk (dbc370) — 12/19/2013 @ 8:40 am

How can we expect that great sea of extended-adolescents out there to grow up when we have elected a President who has yet to attain “manhood”.

askeptic (b8ab92) — 12/19/2013 @ 8:45 am

You guys are all macho-normative.

JD (4e327f) — 12/19/2013 @ 8:49 am

Pajama Boy is a doofus. But he’s not just an ad aimed at the gay community. In fact you need to go look at the ad aimed at the gay community. There’s four guys dancing around in their briefs–one of them with Rudolf’s red nose–all with horns on their head.

Queen Moochelle is talking about buying Obamacare insurance as a “Christmas treat”.

I’m wondering if these folks have simply become entirely unmoored from reality?

Comanche Voter (bd140e) — 12/19/2013 @ 8:54 am

There’s four guys dancing around in their briefs–one of them with Rudolf’s red nose–all with horns on their head.

Um, Shirley, are you being serious???
Maybe they have someone from Monty Python doing PR for them.

MD in Philly (f9371b) — 12/19/2013 @ 8:56 am

What may be more wrong in the world is that the people who make ads like this are the ones winning elections.

So if we don’t want their votes, there may be a problem.

MD in Philly (f9371b) — 12/19/2013 @ 9:07 am

Clearly that coca isn’t Nestle Quik. No self-serving onesies wearing hipster would subject himself to that corporate branded drink.

It’s clearly Abuelita…made from the finest minority hands money can buy. But it also requires labor of your own to make the hot coca. You have to order your mom to crush up the chocolate disk and warm up fresh whole milk to get the perfect balance of chocolatey goodness to warm your PJs from the inside.

Then you get to talk about how your parents are going to pay for your health insurance. Probably while suffering additional taxes and fees for them to transfer money into your private bank account. Which, ironically, may raise your annual income and disqualify you from a subsidy.

DejectedHead (a094a6) — 12/19/2013 @ 9:08 am

Remember how in the 80s we used to talk about “Ronald Reagan’s America,” which meant hard-working people who loved God and country and got up every morning to do the day’s work? This guy is the perfect symbol of “Barack Obama’s America,” the arrested adolescent who is looking around to see who is going to give things to him.

Actually, as with the ObamaCare website girl, I feel very sorry for the model who has to be saddled with this nonsense campaign. Sure, he willingly posed in footie PJs, so his hands aren’t entirely clean, but for all we know he may be a decent hard-working guy who holds Obama in just as much contempt as we do. If it turns out that he knowingly posed for this particular campaign, though, then he deserves all the derision that comes his way.

JVW (709bc7) — 12/19/2013 @ 9:23 am

you can buy abuelita packets now to where it’s already powdered up

http://www.amazon.com/Mexican-Chocolate-Abuelita-Packets-10-Ounce/dp/B001EPPBTK

happyfeet (8ce051) — 12/19/2013 @ 9:25 am

Hipsters can’t buy pre-powdered Abuelita. That’s a no-no. They don’t do powdered anything…it’s not hip.

DejectedHead (a094a6) — 12/19/2013 @ 9:27 am

Obama’s rhetoric was always this stupid. But in the past, the media would all proclaim the Emperor’s New Clothes to be the latest fashion.

SPQR (768505) — 12/19/2013 @ 9:28 am

SPQR, I think people are also finally starting to catch on to the fact that Obama-supporting hipsters tend to be people without any tangible accomplishments in life, just like Dear Leader.

JVW (709bc7) — 12/19/2013 @ 9:34 am

the other way I always end up making a big mess

my friend R says you have to boil the abuelita chunk in a lil bit of water first – and for a good while really, and you have to stir stir stir

happyfeet (8ce051) — 12/19/2013 @ 9:34 am

The actual gay outreach video ad mentioned above created to get Obamacare sign ups was posted by Ace yesterday for anyone who is interested in viewing it in the privacy of their home office.

elissa (78bee9) — 12/19/2013 @ 9:35 am

To be clear, I don’t mind the gay outreach ad or the hipster outreach ads per se. What I do mind is that U.S. taxpayer dollars were spent on them.

elissa (78bee9) — 12/19/2013 @ 9:39 am

Can’t see them, but I’m sure there are feet woven into his jammies.

LTMG (9a1240) — 12/19/2013 @ 9:42 am

No doubt this guy thinks he’s the smartest person in his family. Never mind that he’s still living in Mom’s basement as he ponders the career choices open to someone with a Master’s in philosophy.

Obama appeals to people like that, and gives them hope that someday people WILL have to listen to them.

Kevin M (536c5d) — 12/19/2013 @ 9:45 am

It’s this one, LTMG. http://www.blackforestdecor.com/bear-cheeks-flapjack-pajamas.html?catargetid=530005280000000008&cadevice={device}&gclid=CNPK7uXrvLsCFa4-Mgod7W0AOA

Yup, Bare Cheeks Flapjack. Ha, ha, ha.

nk (dbc370) — 12/19/2013 @ 9:47 am

The natural end result of helicopter parenting.

Kevin M (536c5d) — 12/19/2013 @ 9:50 am

Comment by AZ Bob (ade845) — 12/19/2013 @ 8:03 am

“Gee, I can pay the small penalty and wait until I actually need health care. They have to take me because Obama made them take people with preexisting conditions. Isn’t America great! More hot chocolate, Mom!”

A few years ago I thought Obamacare worked that way, but it actually doesn’t, because it has limited yearly enrollment periods.

Howeverm f someone is eligible for Medicaid, there may be no need to enroll, because Medicaid is the one form of “insurance” that is retroactive, I think for 90 days.

Sammy Finkelman (9fe80b) — 12/19/2013 @ 9:59 am

Its been pointed out, the character is the ad has plenty of money.

Nation Reviews Morning Jolt (with Jim Geraghty) said yesterday this onesie costs $69.95. That’s a lot of money for something (impractical) to sleep in. Geraghty speculated the hot chocolate – well that’s probabkly fair trade Mexican hot chocolate. His closets have clothes from Urban Outfitters, Aberchrombie & Fitch, and American Apparel. He also got lots of “skinny jeans” and vinyl records, from a bunch of bands you’ve never heard of or the early work of some bands “before they went mainstream.” And the glasses are non-prescription, like Clark Kent’s. He wears them just because of the way they frame his face.

He has a no-digital watch, which may be expensive and he’s got what he calls “Holiday Lights” on eh relatively bare walls.

That sofa is from “Pottery Barn” and usually costs $2,999. By the way, he should be carefl about that sofa, and read this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/24/opinion/sunday/kristof-danger-lurks-in-that-mickey-mouse-couch.html?_r=0

The story goes back to the 1970s, when the tobacco industry was under pressure to make self-extinguishing cigarettes because so many people were dying in fires caused by careless smokers. The tobacco industry didn’t want to tinker with cigarettes, so it lobbied instead for requiring flame retardants in mattresses and couches….Babrauskas says that, in fact, retardants provide little if any delay for a fire, and then lead to much more toxic fumes. “You get the worst of both possible worlds,” he says.

One risk is to firefighters, who are coming down with rare cancers. The larger danger is to people sitting on those couches. Retardants are released as dust from the foam and accumulate on the floor. The greatest risk is probably to pregnant women and to small children, who are also more likely to be on the floor.

But perhaps he might more likely encounter that over here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024085014

Now the thing is, as Jim Geraghty says:

If you’re plunking down $70 for your pajamas, you’re probably not going to be hat horrified by the prices on healthcare.gov

But that’s not really the people they need to sign up for Obamacare insurance policies to be financially viable.

Sammy Finkelman (9fe80b) — 12/19/2013 @ 10:17 am

“his is how Barack Obama sees you, young people. A hipster doofus wearing a onesie and a bemused expression of detached irony as you clutch your steaming hot mug of Nestle’s Quik and contemplate your future of government dependence.”

Yeah, that’s pretty amazing, but it is what it is.

Former Conservative (6e026c) — 12/19/2013 @ 10:20 am

“Taking care of himself.”

HAHA! Yeah, right, like that would ever appear on an ad like this. If John Wayne were alive he’s smack the smirk right off his kisser.

CrustyB (5a646c) — 12/19/2013 @ 10:23 am

13. Comment by DejectedHead (a094a6) — 12/19/2013 @ 9:08 am

…your parents…to transfer money into your private bank account. Which, ironically, may raise your annual income and disqualify you from a subsidy.

That wouldn’t disqualify him, because it is a gift and not income, and the means test here probably doesn’t cover that kind of thing, let alone savings. It would have no impact.

Good tax advice might be for his parents just to make the payment on his student loan.

The interest on his student loan is deductible for him – BEFORE adjusted gross income, even if he doesn’t itemize – even if he doesn’t pay a penny himself on the loan that year, but somebody else does.

It’s considered a gift to him followed by a payment by him even if the money never passes into his control.

Sammy Finkelman (9fe80b) — 12/19/2013 @ 10:29 am

First time I saw that, I thought it was a Leonard Hofstadter ad.

But look at that guy. He obviously has no wife or girlfriend — or even boyfriend, because no self-respecting homosexual would dress like that! — or he wouldn’t have pajamas like that.

Thing is, that ad says “talk about getting health insurance.” It says nothing about actually buying health insurance. And if a bunch of fellow geeks like that got together and talked about getting health insurance, they’d probably conclude that no, it wasn’t worth the cost.

The Dana who watched too much of The Big Bang Theory (3e4784) — 12/19/2013 @ 10:43 am

Comment by The Dana who watched too much of The Big Bang Theory (3e4784) — 12/19/2013 @ 10:43 am

or he wouldn’t have pajamas like that.

You know something – I don’t think that’s really pajamas.

You can’t go to the bathroom in them.

That clothing to wear in the morning, maybe to exercise in, maybe to dry out in, for an hour or two, before he puts on his day clothes.

Thing is, that ad says “talk about getting health insurance.” It says nothing about actually buying health insurance.

Like other people selling things that cost a lot of money, you don’t mention price or value.

Sammy Finkelman (9fe80b) — 12/19/2013 @ 10:49 am

You can go to the bathroom in them. But you’d have to sit down. Look at my link in comment 24, Sammy.

nk (dbc370) — 12/19/2013 @ 10:56 am

Maybe they have someone from Monty Python doing PR for them.
Comment by MD in Philly (f9371b) — 12/19/2013 @ 8:56 am

If they did, the message would be better.

askeptic (b8ab92) — 12/19/2013 @ 11:04 am

http://weaselzippers.us/2013/12/18/ofa-gives-obamabots-detailed-guide-on-how-to-talk-about-obamacare-to-family-members-during-holidays/

They have a copy of the OFA talking points at the link. Including a Christmas “packing list.” The OFAers helpfully inform their minions to remind family members to bring their SSNs, a pay stub or W-2 form, and their health insurance card if they have insurance.

OFA reminds them to start their conversation early and be persistent.

I don’t see too many people getting sent to the hospital because most of the people likely to follow this advice look like pajama boy, and one mean glance is likely to shut them up.

Steve57 (e607ae) — 12/19/2013 @ 11:07 am

You know something – I don’t think that’s really pajamas.

You can’t go to the bathroom in them.

That clothing to wear in the morning, maybe to exercise in, maybe to dry out in, for an hour or two, before he puts on his day clothes.

Just when you think Sammy cannot do a parody of Sammy, you get this.

JD (4e327f) — 12/19/2013 @ 11:12 am

I am a conservative, which leads me — still — to be a Republican, as it did my father and grandfather and great-grandfather going back to the origins of the Republican party.

There is no circumstance in which I will ever tell anyone, “We don’t want your vote.”

Beldar (8ff56a) — 12/19/2013 @ 11:12 am

Re-reading that comment, I see that I left out a logically essential part.

I want my party to win because that’s still the best chance for conservative principles to be effectuated rather than their opposite.

Beldar (8ff56a) — 12/19/2013 @ 11:14 am

Apologies for the string of comments, but on the subject of Pajama Boy:

My reaction to this was very much unlike that of most people, left or right, who’re mocking this.

I would welcome the chance to speak to that young man, or anyone, about health insurance and healthcare, and about Obamacare in particular. I’m quite certain that at the end of the conversation, whether he’s a close-minded fool or someone capable of being persuaded, Pajama Boy wouldn’t still be smiling that smug smile.

They don’t want conversations, they want unrebutted speeches — and if those don’t produce the results they want, they’ll eventually use soldiers with bayonets.

Beldar (8ff56a) — 12/19/2013 @ 11:18 am

Yeah This is now: http://i.imgur.com/CBqEVmU.png

That was then: http://i.imgur.com/694uZIj.jpg

At 28 even nerds could handle revolvers without accidentally taking out Cousin Jim, (who could offer points on the relative merits of squirrel-shooting apparatus), and even carve his own ample turkey in his own house for his own wife and his own three kids without worrying that he would carve off his own mitt.

http://i.imgur.com/9jXI2FM.jpg

That’s Daddy on the left. He was over 6 ft 2 so maybe he’s only a rough equivalent of jammie boy but close enough.
http://i.imgur.com/9jXI2FM.jpg

Sarahw (b0e533) — 12/19/2013 @ 11:24 am

They don’t want conversations, they want unrebutted speeches —

This perfectly describes all of the national conversations.

JD (4e327f) — 12/19/2013 @ 11:24 am

I really doubt he’s holding a mug of Nestle Quik. That’s too blue collar. It’s probably some specialized cocoa you have to order out of a catalog.

Jim S. (c3715c) — 12/19/2013 @ 11:27 am

Guy looks like mid-teen Anne Hathaway, pre-makeover, in The Princess Diaries, with a bad short perm.

Mitch (341ca0) — 12/19/2013 @ 11:30 am

I really doubt he’s holding a mug of Nestle Quik. That’s too blue collar.

Jim, maybe it’s like PBR: ironic downscale chic cocoa.

Mitch (341ca0) — 12/19/2013 @ 11:31 am

Beldar:

I want my party to win because that’s still the best chance for conservative principles to be effectuated rather than their opposite.

It’s because I care about the long-term health of the Republican Party that I want it to fail in its current effort to shut down dissent, just as I spent the last two years rooting for the Longhorns to lose so Mack would retire. That’s really the only solution when the leaders are killing the host.

DRJ (a83b8b) — 12/19/2013 @ 11:42 am

Fair trade cocoa with soy.

Sarahw (b0e533) — 12/19/2013 @ 11:52 am

In the twitter stream of OFA, PJ boy has played a series of hapless doofs ironically “enjoying” “family” at “this time of year”.

Those things are just styrofoam columns to the grand importance of Ocare organizing.

Sarahw (b0e533) — 12/19/2013 @ 11:56 am

Mr Finkelman wrote:

or he wouldn’t have pajamas like that.

You know something – I don’t think that’s really pajamas.

P’raps not, but given that the ad labeled them as pajamas, I’d say it’s fair to call them that. Good Lord, if those aren’t pajamas, I’d hate to know what they really are. 😆

You can’t go to the bathroom in them.

Well, if by “go to the bathroom,” you mean to deposit bodily wastes in the toilet, you ~~can’t~~ shouldn’t go to the bathroom in any clothing without some sort of removal process occurring.

That clothing to wear in the morning, maybe to exercise in, maybe to dry out in, for an hour or two, before he puts on his day clothes.

No one would exercise in those clothes, and it doesn’t look like the subject in question bothers much with exercise, regardless of his clothing.

The snarky Dana (3e4784) — 12/19/2013 @ 12:06 pm

When the war comes, it will be easy.

Rodney King's Spirit (11dcd5) — 12/19/2013 @ 12:07 pm

Sammy – on what planet do people exercise in onesies?

JD (5c1832) — 12/19/2013 @ 12:14 pm

Sammy, it’s not a romper or jumpsuit. It’s a union suit pajama from TARGET. Sold with the sleepwear. http://img1.targetimg1.com/wcsstore/TargetSAS//img/p/14/57/14577484_201308061542.jpg

Sarahw (b0e533) — 12/19/2013 @ 12:37 pm

He’s an OFA drone ‘from Sector 7G’ named Eugene Krupp.

narciso (3fec35) — 12/19/2013 @ 12:37 pm

It’s stupid polyester fleece. The model looks sad. http://www.target.com/p/men-s-union-suit-red-buffalo-plaid/-/A-14656265

Sarahw (b0e533) — 12/19/2013 @ 12:38 pm

Check out front and back view. That is not exercise wear or underwear. It’s a fleecy baggy onsie designed for serious conversations.

Sarahw (b0e533) — 12/19/2013 @ 12:41 pm

#GetTalking about that job you can’t find… how your future has been mortgaged… how you’re the male “Julia”.

Colonel Haiku (bb45bf) — 12/19/2013 @ 12:44 pm

Target says: “You are here: Target > men > men’s clothing
>sleepwear >pajamas & robes sets > Men’s Union Suit “

Sarahw (b0e533) — 12/19/2013 @ 12:46 pm

Comment by Sarahw (b0e533) — 12/19/2013 @ 11:24 am

That first link is worse than the original picture.
“Food related injuries”.
How about never learned to use a knife injuries??

My mother likes to quote a joke about the person who called a computer help desk and was so clueless that the person told her to just put everything back in the box and send it back, that she wasn’t smart enough to use a computer.

These people do appear to need someone to look after them.

MD in Philly (f9371b) — 12/19/2013 @ 12:46 pm

Next thing you know, based on that picture, there will be anti-knife legislation prohibiting knives from being sharp and longer than 1 inch long.
Turkeys will either need to be pre-cut, or made from tofu so they can be cut with a dull butter knife.

MD in Philly (f9371b) — 12/19/2013 @ 12:49 pm

Heh! Doctors ~~in England~~ where Great Britain used to be designed, and advocated for, a stab proof knife and it was manufactured and marketed. http://www.foxnews.com/story/2009/06/16/first-stab-proof-knife-to-go-on-sale-in-uk/

nk (dbc370) — 12/19/2013 @ 12:53 pm

“It was invented by industrial designer John Cornock, who was inspired by a documentary in which doctors advocated banning traditional knives.”

So the doctors did not design it. Sorry. They only advocated banning traditional knives. Hmm. Maybe they thought what you thought, MD.

nk (dbc370) — 12/19/2013 @ 12:56 pm

all he’s missing are the bunny slippers…

Colonel Haiku (bb45bf) — 12/19/2013 @ 12:58 pm

Mr. Cornock should have talked to me. http://krites.blogspot.com/2012/03/for-uncle.html

nk (dbc370) — 12/19/2013 @ 12:59 pm

Sarahw wrote:

It’s a fleecy baggy onsie designed for serious conversations.

[snort!] I can go with “a fleecy baggy onsie,” but “designed for serious conversations?” No one can have a serious conversation in that.

The snarky Dana (3e4784) — 12/19/2013 @ 1:00 pm

Beta males wear footie onesies. Its a thing.

JD (5c1832) — 12/19/2013 @ 1:02 pm

nk,
Fur crying out loud,
I try a little sarcasm only to find out it has already become reality.

MD in Philly (f9371b) — 12/19/2013 @ 1:13 pm

Ah Pajama Boy’s identity is revealed. He’s Ethan Krupp, an employee of Organizing for Action. He was a student organizer at the University of Wisconsin who apparently organized some pretty big things. In addition to his computer work and all that, he’s willing to “take one for the team” [perhaps in more ways than one] by appearing as a model in several of the Obamacare ads.

Beldar–a gifted trial lawyer–says he’d like to sit down and talk with Pajama Boy, and explain things to him. I think that young Master Krupp (he’s not masculine and mature enough to be “Mister”) is beyond reason.

But there is some hope; after Pajama Boy became a national laughingstock, Master Krupp (who may, or more likely, may not, have a tiny sense of shame) close his Facebook and Twitter accounts and tried to scrub his tracks.

Comanche Voter (bd140e) — 12/19/2013 @ 1:26 pm

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2013/12/the-real-life-pajama-boy.php

Hey, he previously organized a week long of non-alcohol activities at Madison, which is something to be commended for.
But maybe he should have skipped this.
Didn’t the Healthcare.gov woman decide it wasn’t a good idea?
I mean, if you want to be known for what you get famous for, like Sandra Fluke, then go for it;
otherwise be careful with what you get famous for.

MD in Philly (f9371b) — 12/19/2013 @ 1:26 pm

They’ve identified pajama boy. Be sure to click on Allahpundit’s link in the Update. It’s hilarious.

DRJ (a83b8b) — 12/19/2013 @ 1:26 pm

He also still lives at home with the folks.

Sarahw (b0e533) — 12/19/2013 @ 1:28 pm

Looks like we got this one covered…

MD in Philly (f9371b) — 12/19/2013 @ 1:28 pm

We should have figured this guy attended a Big 10 university. Or whatever.

Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 12/19/2013 @ 1:28 pm

Knives are kind of a hobby of mine, MD.

nk (dbc370) — 12/19/2013 @ 1:29 pm

MD’s Powerline link is excellent.

DRJ (a83b8b) — 12/19/2013 @ 1:30 pm

Hey, ES.
There are Big 10 Universities,
and then there is UW-Madison.

MD in Philly (f9371b) — 12/19/2013 @ 1:30 pm

MD in ~~Madison~~ Philly,

Ha, ha, I was just having fun because I know we have a lot of Big 10 people here.
I’ve actually been to the UW campus.
It is quite a place.
It makes Berkeley look like Mayberry.

Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 12/19/2013 @ 1:34 pm

http://thefederalist.com/2013/12/17/dozen-funniest-variations-obamas-pajama-boy-propaganda/

The spoofs are off and running.

AZ Bob (7d2a2c) — 12/19/2013 @ 1:34 pm

I would have guessed his name as Josiah or maybe Bertram, but Ethan is also right up there.

Colonel Haiku (bb45bf) — 12/19/2013 @ 1:35 pm

or Jules…

oh Pajama Boy
think yer thoughts sip yer cocoa
then back to basement

Colonel Haiku (bb45bf) — 12/19/2013 @ 1:37 pm

your girlish boy hands
your addiction to Jergen’s
linebacker you’re not

Colonel Haiku (bb45bf) — 12/19/2013 @ 1:41 pm

Jamby boy has to grow up fast.

Sarahw (b0e533) — 12/19/2013 @ 1:44 pm

calloused lips tell tale
heavy suckling at Fed teat
yer God is Barry

Colonel Haiku (bb45bf) — 12/19/2013 @ 1:45 pm

==There are Big 10 Universities,
and then there is UW-Madison.==

Hey, MD, my university’s astronaut is going for a spacewalk or two between now and Christmas Day to help repair the International Space Station. What’s your university’s astronaut been up to to lately? 🙂

Hopkins received a degree in aerospace engineering from the U of I in 1991, and was co-captain of the Fighting Illini football team.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/12/18/illinois-astronaut-to-go-for-spacewalk-to-repair-space-station/

elissa (78bee9) — 12/19/2013 @ 1:54 pm

It makes Berkeley look like Mayberry.
Comment by Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 12/19/2013 @ 1:34 pm

Well, we did say that Berkeley was the Madison of the West Coast.

Elissa,
There are many ways one could spin my previous statement.

MD in Philly (f9371b) — 12/19/2013 @ 2:11 pm

heh.

elissa (78bee9) — 12/19/2013 @ 2:14 pm

I’m curious. Do today’s girls think Pajama Boy is cute? (He’s obviously not that cute in this outfit.) There was a time when girls preferred guys who had some muscles.

DRJ (a83b8b) — 12/19/2013 @ 2:32 pm

PJB attended Wisconsin? I had him pegged for one of Ohio State’s d-linemen.

Whitey Nisson (aa99c0) — 12/19/2013 @ 2:54 pm

You can still see gthis (from comment at HotAir)

“Ethan Krupp ‏@ethankrupp 27 Nov

I guess @BarackObama is tweeting out pictures of me?”

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BaG03ItCAAAJVUQ.png

He did that as a joke. (i.e. that picture won’t run in something intended for a general audience)

Sammy Finkelman (9fe80b) — 12/19/2013 @ 3:02 pm

Or maybe that was an alternative picture.

He probably doesn’t observe any kind of holidays himself.

He knows so little, he has the Hanukkah candles all wrong. Or maybe it’s that Menorah (or hannukiah) that is all wrong!

The Shamash (the candle that lights the other candles) should be alone. Instead we have 9 branches. Maybe one on one side is a bit higher, but it is hard to tell..

Usually the shamash is in the middle, but higher and in the back. It’s not one of the Chanukah candles. The candles (unlike Shabbos candles) are not supposed to be used for any other purpose. At one time, they were bigger (and usually oil)

The extra candle is so as not to use the Hanukkah candles.

You just see one candle lit on each end.

By the way, that would have been proper, for the day before Thanksgiving, Wednesday night November 27, 2013, not Thanksgiving itself, which was the first day of Chanukah, but that night was the second candle. Which is 3 if you include the shamash. But why quibble? That turkey is probably not kosher. And how can he have the lit menorah in the middle of the table like that? Of course, it’s for the picture, which is way overdone.

In this picture, by the way, he’s dressed.

Sammy Finkelman (9fe80b) — 12/19/2013 @ 3:18 pm

Only $20 at Target? I should have known tghat Jim Geraghty overestimated the price.

(and if you buy it online, your credit card or debit card information won’t be stolen. Or you use the red card ffor a %5 discount)

Sammy Finkelman (9fe80b) — 12/19/2013 @ 3:23 pm

It actually has a zipper, although it is full length, and the poicture hides it, and that may be the only way to put it on or off. Come to think of it, how else would it be put on or off?

Jim Geraghty didn’t know what he was talking about. $69.99!?

Maybe when it’s not on sale.

Sammy Finkelman (9fe80b) — 12/19/2013 @ 3:27 pm

DRJ asked:

I’m curious. Do today’s girls think Pajama Boy is cute? (He’s obviously not that cute in this outfit.) There was a time when girls preferred guys who had some muscles.

He kind of has the aspect of the character Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory, but as the show went on, the nerdy Dr Hofstadter managed to get laid by Penny (Kaley Cuoco), by Leslie Winkle (Sara Gilbert), and Priya Koothrappali (Aarti Mann, the most gorgeous woman on television), but we all know that real women wouldn’t give Leonard a second look.

The Dana who watches too much TV (af9ec3) — 12/19/2013 @ 3:40 pm

The esteemed Mr Finkelman wrote:

It actually has a zipper, although it is full length, and the poicture hides it, and that may be the only way to put it on or off. Come to think of it, how else would it be put on or off?

Why would anyone want to know how to put it on? I can see where it might be useful for cleaning up an oil leak on your garage floor.

The curious Dana (af9ec3) — 12/19/2013 @ 3:41 pm

There is prolly a Target version and an Orvis version.

elissa (78bee9) — 12/19/2013 @ 3:44 pm

That’s kind of what I thought, too, The Curious Dana. But I thought maybe things have a changed a lot more than I realized.

DRJ (a83b8b) — 12/19/2013 @ 3:47 pm

sits there in jammies
eating his eggs and hammy
help me out Sammy

Colonel Haiku (bb45bf) — 12/19/2013 @ 3:57 pm

I think Jim Geraghty was being facetious about Orvis, making a jab at overpriced woodsy-wear. Orvis online doesn’t carry any men’s sleepwear and the ladies stuff has no resemblance to anything buffalo checked or onesie-like.

Sarahw (b0e533) — 12/19/2013 @ 3:59 pm

you and I will pay
for teh lad’s low-T treatment
he’ll buy teh razors

Colonel Haiku (bb45bf) — 12/19/2013 @ 3:59 pm

and it wasn’t teh bullet that laid him to rest
was the low spark of pajama’ed boys

Colonel Haiku (bb45bf) — 12/19/2013 @ 4:00 pm

So does this mean the Democrats are deliberately choosing a non-threatening male for their campaigns? I think they might since the Democratic seems more comfortable with beta males. It tickles me to imagine some of these ads done with John Wayne.

DRJ (a83b8b) — 12/19/2013 @ 4:01 pm

90. …He kind of has the aspect of the character Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory, but as the show went on, the nerdy Dr Hofstadter managed to get laid by Penny (Kaley Cuoco), by Leslie Winkle (Sara Gilbert), and Priya Koothrappali (Aarti Mann, the most gorgeous woman on television), but we all know that real women wouldn’t give Leonard a second look.

Comment by The Dana who watches too much TV (af9ec3) — 12/19/2013 @ 3:40 pm

In real life, the actresses who get paid to sleep with nerdy Dr. Hofstadter types like Pajama Boy are called prostitutes.

Steve57 (e607ae) — 12/19/2013 @ 4:03 pm

same hopeless cases as their “Julia”, just with Xy chromosome factor.

Colonel Haiku (bb45bf) — 12/19/2013 @ 4:06 pm

Pajamagram has hoodie-footie pj’s, but as far as I know they don’t suggest discussing ObamaCare in them.

MD in Philly (f9371b) — 12/19/2013 @ 4:07 pm

101. Comment by Colonel Haiku (bb45bf) — 12/19/2013 @ 4:06 pm

same hopeless cases as their “Julia”, just with Xy chromosome factor.

See http://reallifeofjulia.tumblr.com/

Sammy Finkelman (9fe80b) — 12/19/2013 @ 5:07 pm

99. Comment by DRJ (a83b8b) — 12/19/2013 @ 4:01 pm

So does this mean the Democrats are deliberately choosing a non-threatening male for their campaigns?

I think they are deliberately picking somone who looks a little bit stupid, and doesn’t think anything is complicated, because the only way somebody that age is going to enroll is without thinking.

They did some market research, I think, and discovered that when anybody mentioned the penalty, or the cost of the insurance, they turned against it, so these things are not being mentioned in the ads.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/11/nyregion/talk-of-penalty-is-missing-in-ads-for-health-care.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0&pagewanted=all

…officials at Enroll America, a nonprofit agency that is promoting the new marketplace, said they were deliberately playing down the penalty in favor of themes that tested well with focus groups: financial assistance, core benefits, no one being turned away for pre-existing conditions, and easy comparison shopping. “That doesn’t mean that the penalty or the mandate isn’t an important piece of the law from a policy perspective,” said Sophie Stern, a senior policy analyst for the agency. “But from a messaging perspective, this is what we find resonates best.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/26/business/new-pitch-for-health-initiative-mind-your-mom-get-insured.html

In 2007, when Massachusetts introduced its health care law, officials mailed greeting cards, timed for Mother’s Day, to the parents of young men between the ages of 18 and 26. Market research had shown this group was among the most resistant to buying insurance. “The idea was to trigger a phone call from the parent to the child to say, ‘Hey, by the way, do you have insurance?’ ” said Kevin J. Counihan, who served as chief marketing officer for Massachusetts’s health insurance marketplace at the time. “We made the hypothesis that we could best reach the young men through their mothers.”

The effort, Mr. Counihan said, was a moderate success: Many parents decided to pick up the bill for their sons’ health insurance. And more often than not, “we found they bought the most expensive plan because apparently nothing was too good for Johnny.” Mr. Counihan is now chief executive of Connecticut’s state marketplace and said he was still targeting the mothers of young men by focusing on churches and community groups where they are likely to be members.

Sammy Finkelman (9fe80b) — 12/19/2013 @ 5:26 pm

Sammy:

Counihan, who served as chief marketing officer for Massachusetts’s health insurance marketplace at the time. “We made the hypothesis that we could best reach the young men through their mothers.” Good find, Sammy. So Obama is channeling the way they sold RomneyCare in Massachusetts? I wonder if it worked.

Also, it makes sense why they would use a beta male for the ad, since mothers are more likely to think of their sons as little boys no matter how old they get. It triggers the maternal/caregiver feelings that might lead a mother to get involved.

DRJ (a83b8b) — 12/19/2013 @ 6:05 pm

Formatting error. Try again.

Sammy:

Counihan, who served as chief marketing officer for Massachusetts’s health insurance marketplace at the time. “We made the hypothesis that we could best reach the young men through their mothers.”

Good find, Sammy. So Obama is channeling the way they sold RomneyCare in Massachusetts? I wonder if it worked.

Also, it makes sense why they would use a beta male for the ad, since mothers are more likely to think of their sons as little boys no matter how old they get. It triggers the maternal/caregiver feelings that might lead a mother to get involved.

DRJ (a83b8b) — 12/19/2013 @ 6:06 pm

It’s not the medium, but the message;

http://weaselzippers.us/2013/12/19/thousands-in-illinois-told-they-have-to-reapply-for-obamacare/

narciso (3fec35) — 12/19/2013 @ 6:11 pm

101. Pajamagram has hoodie-footie pj’s, but as far as I know they don’t suggest discussing ObamaCare in them.

Comment by MD in Philly (f9371b) — 12/19/2013 @ 4:07 pm

http://www.pajamagram.com/SellGroup/ss-red-seduction-short-set-and-ws-leopard-hf.aspx

I don’t think it’s possible to discuss ObamaCare in them. I just couldn’t take anything anyone wearing the leapard hoodie footie was saying.

And if she got down to the short set, well…

Steve57 (e607ae) — 12/19/2013 @ 6:25 pm

Counihan, who served as chief marketing officer for Massachusetts’s health insurance marketplace at the time. “We made the hypothesis that we could best reach the young men through their mothers.”

Lotsa young Irish-American males in Mass, most of ’em mama’s boys who are overly fond of teh Jameson’s…

Colonel Haiku (bb45bf) — 12/19/2013 @ 6:28 pm

If someone in pajamas starts talking to me about ObamaCare, I’ll assume they what they really want is the free birth control !

Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 12/19/2013 @ 6:32 pm

If John Wayne Gacy was alive, I suspect that OFA azzzzhole from Madison would not be.
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My god! Please help us. Man-jamas in the prime of your life!!!!!!!!

SMH.

Rodney King's Spirit (11dcd5) — 12/19/2013 @ 8:38 pm

Next millenial diapers and pacifiers.

Rodney King's Spirit (11dcd5) — 12/19/2013 @ 8:41 pm

106. Comment by DRJ (a83b8b) — 12/19/2013 @ 6:06 pm

Formatting error. Try again.

Because of the change from italics back to ordinary, it was obvious where the quote ended. I make worse formatting errors. This one was not really worth correcting.

Sammy:

So Obama is channeling the way they sold RomneyCare in Massachusetts? I wonder if it worked.

There are several important diifferences with what went on in Massachusetts.

First, Massachusetts had an extremely high rate of people who were already insured.

2) They didn’t put them into policies with narrow networks, and medical costs were somewhat lower then.

Most important:

3) That was before they passed that law, allowing children to stay on their parents policies past age 19 or 21. This is the point at which parents are most worried, and involved.

But now children can stay (or be put back on) their parents’ policies up to 26 – and this would be true even if the law was repealed, because it’s now the industry standard.

But this hasn’t been in effect long enough for any child to be continously insured through age 26.

Obamacare is trying to get people to buy insurance who have been several years uninsured, or made other arrangements, while Massachusetts had a lot of people who were coming off their parents’ policies.

Sammy Finkelman (9fe80b) — 12/20/2013 @ 7:37 am

Obama pajama still lives with mama in ole Allahbama!

Noble Axe (02a9c7) — 12/20/2013 @ 3:00 pm

Illinois Blue Cross Blue Shield is advising its individual insureds, with radio ads, that their policies are automatically extended for another year through the end of 2014. They need do nothing, unless they want to change their current policies.

nk (dbc370) — 12/20/2013 @ 3:06 pm

They have to pay, don’t they, nk?

elissa (78bee9) — 12/20/2013 @ 3:34 pm

I presume so, elissa.

nk (dbc370) — 12/20/2013 @ 3:48 pm

.

Who the eph wears a onesie after age five or six?

People with single digit IQs?

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IGotBupkis, "Not at Home For Xmas" (155353) — 12/20/2013 @ 10:36 pm

Don’t insult beta males by calling him one.

Nick M. (f8e14b) — 12/21/2013 @ 3:55 am

What do you guys think of this? http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zaX-RFV3214/UrWqXX_RgdI/AAAAAAAAAhA/xlWQrnM6sBg/s1600/pajamaboy.jpg

nk (dbc370) — 12/21/2013 @ 6:51 am

He kind of has the aspect of the character Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory, but as the show went on, the nerdy Dr Hofstadter managed to get laid by Penny (Kaley Cuoco), by Leslie Winkle (Sara Gilbert), and Priya Koothrappali (Aarti Mann, the most gorgeous woman on television), but we all know that real women wouldn’t give Leonard a second look.

As a software engineer, I agree with your assessment about real women not giving Leonard a second look. But as a man, I disagree that Aarti Mann is the most gorgeous woman on television. She is quite beautiful, to be sure, but the title of most gorgeous goes to Morgan Smith Goodwin. She’s not in any show, she’s the redhead who appears on the Wendy’s commercials.

Chuck Bartowski (a9d140) — 12/21/2013 @ 7:51 am

http://minx.cc/?post=345897

Steve57 (e607ae) — 12/21/2013 @ 1:29 pm

What may be more wrong in the world is that the people who make ads like this are the ones winning elections.
http://graphicsmystictoolkitvolume3.com/
So if we don’t want their votes, there may be a problem.
http://twitterbusinessinaboxreview.com/

Tim (15965b) — 12/22/2013 @ 7:06 pm

I just saw someone who looks like Pajama Boy on Let’s Make a Deal. Monty Hall, I guess, is long gone. It’s 2014 (show taped in 2013) and they have a fairly young male black host.

At the end of the show they have some bog deal with doors. They have to get one of their previous winners to trade in what they won.

The third person offered the option had won a rrip to Jamaica. That was Pajama boy.

He picked door number 3. First they showed him Door number 2. That was nothing – exercise equipment.

Then there was door number 1. A vault, something now evidentaly familiar to viewers of the show. They let there be some suspense and the money amounted to $23,000 and something.

The prize he was stuck with was…a trip to Chicago. He gets to stay at the Hotel Sax.

Sammy Finkelman (652c5b) — 1/1/2014 @ 8:02 am

they went to the ridiculous;

http://forward.com/articles/190011/obamacare-pajama-boy-controversy-wrapped-in-anti-s/

narciso (3fec35) — 1/1/2014 @ 8:14 am

Nice the way the commenters handed his head to him, especially the Israeli.

nk (dbc370) — 1/1/2014 @ 8:21 am

Surreal, narcisco

JD (4f54f8) — 1/1/2014 @ 8:37 am

Ridiculous. I had not thought for 1/2 a second whether or not he was Jewish.

Note:
Even the smart-ass expression on his face screams of the Wise Son from the Passover Seder.

How about a little projection of the writer’s own anti-semitism.

As usual, they can’t debate on the merits of the argument, so they throw dirt.

MD in Philly (f9371b) — 1/1/2014 @ 8:51 am

MD – as usual, they reveal their prejudices while projecting them onto others.

JD (5c1832) — 1/1/2014 @ 9:39 am

From the comments there. Has the left worn out its race card?

nk (dbc370) — 1/1/2014 @ 9:53 am

Zombie Graham chapman, almost showed up.

narciso (3fec35) — 1/1/2014 @ 10:09 am

128. Comment by MD in Philly (f9371b) — 1/1/2014 @ 8:51 am

I had not thought for 1/2 a second whether or not he was Jewish.

Didn’t you see my comments 87 and 88 (a picture he apparently posted as a joke, part of the joke being, of course, that he is actually Jewish, and my comments about the errors there?)

You can still click on the picture at 87. He didn’t bother to delete it.

Sammy Finkelman (652c5b) — 1/1/2014 @ 11:03 am

From he Forward article:

Note:
Even the smart-ass expression on his face screams of the Wise Son from the Passover Seder.

Wise son? No, the simple son. But I’d guess they’d think he was the wise son.

Sammy Finkelman (652c5b) — 1/1/2014 @ 11:05 am

he’s no shrinking violet, kind of a Jon Stewart wannabe;

http://badgerherald.com/artsetc/2010/03/24/madison-misnomer-goe/

narciso (3fec35) — 1/1/2014 @ 11:09 am

Didn’t you see my comments 87 and 88 …
Comment by Sammy Finkelman (652c5b) — 1/1/2014 @ 11:03 am

Sammy, I don’t read your comments, as they are numerous and long.

And besides, if I needed to read your comments to think about whether he was Jewish, then I still wasn’t thinking about him, being Jewish, you were.

Yes, there are Jewish people in Madison, Wisconsin. That’s where I learned about bagels, going to the big university and all.

MD in Philly (f9371b) — 1/1/2014 @ 2:07 pm

MD in Philly:

And besides, if I needed to read your comments to think about whether he was Jewish, then I still wasn’t thinking about him, being Jewish, you were.

No, I found that out, or it seemed likely after that JPG – which he probably didn’t delete because you have to follow a link to get to it, which he did delete – also it never gets back to him.

A person would find that out after a while after reading about him – but nobody would know that at the start.

Sammy Finkelman (652c5b) — 1/2/2014 @ 3:47 am

In that case, Sammy, I am not sure what your point was.
It was claimed by someone on the Left that the reaction to Pajamaboy was actually anti-Semitism. I said that I hadn’t even had a thought about whether he was Jewish, and the claim was nonsense.

In fact, even the pajamas were not the weirdest thing for me, but it was the way he held the mug. Does anybody hold a mug with a hand on the bottom? If I hold a mug with 2 hands to get the warmth of it, I wrap both hands around it, as I recall seeing others do in real life and in pictures.
Of course it is a small thing, but the point was how artificial and contrived the ad was, the concept that people should have as their priority during the holidays of talking about getting health insurance.

MD in Philly (f9371b) — 1/2/2014 @ 6:14 am

MD, if they want a Jewish milquetoast, let’s give them a Jewish milquetoast. Guaranteed non-pornographic except for people with a pajama fetish. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Cy2d-XRQCEc/UsV4_YOLzYI/AAAAAAAAAhQ/OcY4gycHfcM/s1600/pajamaboy.jpg

nk (dbc370) — 1/2/2014 @ 6:38 am

They should have come to me. I speak hipster. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-F49XvJEiXmM/UsWjOhNlKgI/AAAAAAAAAhg/MgBWRXsXcAo/s1600/pajamakid.jpg

nk (dbc370) — 1/2/2014 @ 9:38 am

Isn’t that last picture a young Bob Dylan?
I guess he was/is Jewish as well, as far as birth heritage goes.

Must have been Minnesota in mid-May.

MD in Philly (f9371b) — 1/2/2014 @ 10:06 am

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