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Open Thread

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:53 am

I got nothin’.

63 Responses to “Open Thread”

  1. Nothin’ at all?

    Pious Agnostic (c45233)

  2. Perhaps some humor at the expense of others?

    Sailing the Northwest Passage!

    John Smith (c2a001)

  3. Ok, Dragline. (Cool Hand Luke reference)

    PCD (7a7072)

  4. Crater Lake is purdy…

    Colonel Haiku (ed0339)

  5. Me Neither.

    glenn (647d76)

  6. Maybe we were better off with the creep;

    narciso (3fec35)

  7. Did you know that Yradier’s La Paloma famous in its own right, but also on which Bizet’s Habanera in Carmen was stolen from derived, was based on ancient Greek history (yes, history not mythology). It was in the preludes to the Persian invasions that you may be more familiar with from references to Marathon, and the 300 Spartans at Thermopylae. Around 492 BC, Darius sent his admiral Mardonius with a fleet in a punitive expedition against Greece. Mardonius’s fleet was sunk by a storm off Mt. Athos in northern Greece. He lost 300 ships and 20,000 men. It was reported that white doves flew out of the sinking Persian ships — the souls of the drowning Persian sailors. The Greek lyrics of the song, still set to Yradier’s habanera, are pretty explicit that it is a drowned sailor’s soul returning to his sweetheart as a dove.

    nk (875f57)

  8. It is snowing at Crater Lake.

    Colonel Haiku (ed0339)

  9. You know how Republicans are the party of old, white, racists? Here’s a photo of the newest, precious grandchild of the GOP’s most recent Presidential nominee.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  10. And what a beautiful baby girl she is!

    Colonel Haiku (ed0339)

  11. It’s all Greek to me.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  12. Uh, Romney’s baby is a boy, Col.

    W`posted a picture of himself holding his new first grandchild, a girl, recently. He also posted a picture of “Bob” posing in a basket. Bob is a stray cat who wandered onto the ranch and has been adopted and turned into a house pet by the Bushes.

    elissa (622f9f)

  13. This is NSFW and definitely not for ladies, but topical.

    nk (875f57)

  14. In other news, President “O-bomb-syria” says the world is safer now than it was five years ago…right after talking about how dangerous it is that Syria is using chemical weapons, and that Iran is pursuing nuclear capability !
    Why, oh why, did he choose “five years ago” as a comparative metric ?
    Hmmm…that’s right, because it is allll about him.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  15. Oracle bagged another race yesterday, and then the winds died. So the score is TNZ 8 Oracle 6 (each has now won 8 races, but Oracle has that two point penalty.) Maybe two more races today, and if Oracle continues their comeback to make it 8-8, tomorrow’s the race for the America’s Cup.

    We lost two (as yet unnamed) helicopter pilots yesterday in a crash, both new fathers delayed by Syria operations from scheduled returns stateside to meet their newborns.

    htom (412a17)

  16. The esteemed Robert Stacey Stacy McCain noted the (possible) martyrdom of the “White Widow” in Kenya. Her husband, Germaine Lindsay, was martyred before her. My question is: just how pissed will she be when she gets to paradise, only to find her husband consorting with his 72 virgins?

    The snarky Dana (3e4784)

  17. Interesting detail that they left out inadvertently

    narciso (3fec35)

  18. I’ve been blinded by the snow at Crater Lake, Elissa…

    Colonel Haiku (ed0339)

  19. Since it is General Assembly week at the United Despots Nations, I may have to whip out my dvd copy of Hitchcock’s “North by Northwest,” starring Cary Grant, Eva Marie Saint, and James Mason.

    For those who’ve never seen it, it involves a murder at the UN in New York.
    That’s unusual, because most of the despots limit their murders to the boundaries of their own countries. (rim shot!)

    The UN wouldn’t allow Hitchcock to film inside the UN building because the UN believed the murder would reflect poorly upon the UN. (another rim shot !)

    As a result, Hitch and a few crew members sat parked inside a van across the street from the UN, and had Cary Grant exit a taxi cab right in front of the building, and casually walk up the steps to the doors, so at least they’d have actual footage of Grant’s character doing that.

    One of the most entertaining films of all time.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  20. htom,

    Your comment made me feel good and then really bad. Any death is bad but those seem especially hard.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  21. That’s disgusting, narciso. I know it’s nothing new but it never ends.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  22. That’s a beautiful addition to the Romney family. I’m glad I can simply wish Mitt and his the best now that I know he isn’t in office and my disagreement with him politically is irrelevant. It can’t be easy being the family of the GOP nominee these days.

    Dustin (303dca)

  23. George Soros just got married. Here are the lovebirds and a partial guest list. There is no mention of whether anyone from the “Occupy” movement was there to protest the 1%.

    elissa (622f9f)

  24. Folks, this “Soft Tyranny” thing is gonna get much worse before it gets better.

    Somers, NY Police Officer Caught Stealing Signs Advocating Repeal Of SAFE Act

    Read the whole Sept. 23rd article at

    PPs43 (af65ec)

  25. Ted Cruz just started a filibuster on the Senate floor. His first words were “I rise today to oppose ObamaCare.”

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  26. Yes, the soft tyranny won’t be so soft, will it?

    I came across this today, and put it up on another thread. But I thought I’d bring it up here.

    Congress defined “affordable” as 9.5% or less of an employee’s household income, mostly to make sure people did not leave their workplace plans for subsidized coverage through the exchanges. But the “error” was that it only applies to the employee — and not his or her family. So, if an employer offers a woman affordable insurance, but doesn’t provide it for her family, they cannot get subsidized help through the state health exchanges.

    Just look at all the wrong in that paragraph.

    1) Employers will be penalized if they’re required to offer insurance, but that insurance isn’t “affordable.” To determine what is affordable, the employer will be required to find out what their employee’s household income is. Not just what they pay their employee.

    2) “Affordable” is 9.5% of household income or less.

    3) That’s just for the premium.

    4) As long as your employer offers you a high deductible bronze plan that will cost you less than essentially 10 percent of your household income, you don’t qualify for a taxpayer subsidy.

    5) Leaving you to pay 40% of your health care costs out of pocket through some combination of co-pays, deductibles, and co-insurance.

    6) On top of that, your family isn’t covered at all. And since you get an “affordable” plan through your employer who is providing a contribution, your family doesn’t qualify for a subsidy on the exchange.

    7) If you turn down the employer plan because you might be able to get an overall better deal on the exchange for the entire family as opposed to buying two separate policies, you waive both the taxpayer subsidy and the employer contribution.

    8) Except of course if you work for Congress, then and only then do you keep the employer contribution.

    I love how the MFM is trying to minimize the scope of this catastrophe. As if there are only a few “glitches” in the law. Obamacare is 2400 plus pages of nothing but glitches. It’s a fool’s errand to try and fix these “glitches.”

    But since we’re talking about Obama and Congress, they’ll try. So what happens when Congress fixes what USA Today calls the “family glitch.” Billions more will be paid out in federal subsidies than the Democrats pretended.

    This isn’t an unintended consequence of the law. It was written this way precisely so they could lie about bending the cost curve down. It wasn’t true even at the time. But they wrote this law the way they did precisely because they always planned to go back and “fix” it so it would be more expensive than their self-serving lies claimed.

    Steve57 (b0c53e)


    In what is perhaps North America’s first recorded case of a spear being used to kill a cougar in self-defense, a British Columbia resident is being hailed as a hero after he used the tool to save his common-law partner from a mountain lion near their home on remote Flores Island on September 8. According to The Globe and Mail, the 60-year-old woman was being mauled in her garden when the unidentified man heard her screams. Officials say that the man took up a spear, likely made for boar hunting, and stabbed the large cat several times. The mountain lion ran off and the man was able to procure help for his injured girlfriend.

    …With the help of a cougar hunter, they found the animal’s carcass a short distance away from the house. It appeared to have died from the spear-inflicted wounds.

    Steve57 (b0c53e)

  28. DRJ — I know. There are those I know who know, but they can’t tell yet.

    On the Bay, Oracle continues their “miracle comeback”, now having won seven straight against TNZ. The score is tied, 8-8. Tomorrow’s race decides.

    htom (412a17)

  29. That’s an excellent summary, Steve57.

    The offensiveness of the federal government mandating this… forcing it on all of us… because they know we wouldn’t do this of our own free will… that should have been a turning point for this country.

    But the democrats insulated themselves repeatedly from accountability. Americans have short memories, so they pushed it off until after Obama’s next election and Obama suspended part of the law for yet another year.

    Cruz is breaking that trick down by refreshing the debate at the perfect time. The rest of the party seems to be doing all they an to squander the benefits, but that’s OK with me. I don’t want all of them to benefit politically… I want to know who isn’t on board.

    Dustin (303dca)

  30. I love how the MFM is trying to minimize the scope of this catastrophe. As if there are only a few “glitches” in the law. Obamacare is 2400 plus pages of nothing but glitches. It’s a fool’s errand to try and fix these “glitches.”

    Or maybe the righty media is vastly exaggerating the problems. That’s possible too. For instance all those articles that floated around about the avg family of 4s insurance going up 7500 a year? not even remotely true. First of all the methodology was bogus. Second even if we accept their methodology it was not $7500 for a year it was closer to $200.

    Completely wrong story broadcast far and wide by a gullible conservative media that wanted the story to be true, facts be damned.

    So, you know, there’s that.

    Tlaloc (d061fc)

  31. I’ll rest easy tonight, snug and secure in the knowledge that you’re happy and that you think all is well in the wonderful world of Obamacare. What a relief, Tlaloc.

    elissa (622f9f)

  32. It takes time to notify properly. Navy Times article.

    The Navy on Tuesday released the names of two officers killed in the helicopter crash Sunday over the Red Sea.

    Lt. Cmdr. Landon L. Jones and Chief Warrant Officer 3 Jonathon Shelby Gibson were assigned to Helicopter Sea Combat Squadron 6, based out of Naval Air Station North Island, Calif.

    Prayers for their families, those who love them … Rest in honored peace. Semper Fi.

    htom (412a17)

  33. 31. …For instance all those articles that floated around about the avg family of 4s insurance going up 7500 a year? not even remotely true. First of all the methodology was bogus. Second even if we accept their methodology it was not $7500 for a year it was closer to $200.

    Completely wrong story broadcast far and wide by a gullible conservative media that wanted the story to be true, facts be damned.

    So, you know, there’s that.

    Comment by Tlaloc (d061fc) — 9/24/2013 @ 4:49 pm

    Yeah, there is that. Because the Chris Conover used exactly the same methodology President Prom Queen used to promise people they’d see their premiums go down $2,500 dollars.

    Back in 2008, three eminent Harvard economists who were advising the Obama campaign—David Cutler, David Blumenthal, and Jeffrey Liebman—wrote a memo claiming that Senator Obama’s health-care plan could reduce national health spending by $200 billion a year. As Kevin Sack recounted in the New York Times, the authors of that memo then took that figure, “divided [it] by the country’s population, multiplied for a family of four, and rounded down slightly to a number that was easy to grasp: $2,500.”

    Mr. Obama then took that number on the campaign trail, insisting that his health plan would “lower your premiums by up to $2,500 per family per year.” This YouTube video features just a few of the times that he made this promise:

    Obama Promises To Lower Health Insurance Premiums by $2,500 Per Year

    As Avik Roy goes on to point out:

    Last week, the Obama administration’s Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services issued a rather different prediction: that “the [Affordable Care Act] is projected to . . . increase cumulative spending by roughly $621 billion” from 2014 to 2022. To be clear, that’s spending on top of the normal health-care inflation that would have happened if Obamacare had not been passed.

    Conover’s figure was meant to be an over-simplification as an insult to people like Obama who sold this law on stupid lies. As well as the people who parroted them.

    So there is always that, too, Flailoc.

    Steve57 (b0c53e)

  34. Lallalalalalalalalalala is a precious little snowflake.

    JD (5c1832)

  35. TaLaLaLand… where the Sun never shines in teh dank, fetid territories…

    Colonel Haiku (ed0339)

  36. Actually the claim was never $7,500 per year. It was the added cost between 2014 and 2022.

    Which seems a little generous toward Obamacare. Using the Obama administration’s own figures about how much Obamacare will increase health care costs over inflation, I get an increase of $7,883 for a family of 4 if I use the method the boy geniuses from Hah-vaahd devised to give President Tiger Beat his $2500 talking point.

    $621 billion divided by the most recent census bureau estimate of 315,091,138 times four.

    Which over the 8 years Conover was discussing, is nearly $1k per year, not the $200 Flailoc is claiming. $985.38 to be exact.

    But like I said, Conover wasn’t being serious. He was paying “tribute” to the lies that were used to sell this bill.

    Steve57 (b0c53e)

  37. Tlaloc,

    Most working people are seeing their premium increase by several hundred dollars per month.
    You wouldn’t know, because you’re on the government dole.


    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  38. Going back to the origin of La Paloma and the habanera, Yradier picked it up in Cuba, and it may have gotten there by way of Greek conquistadores in the service of the kings of Spain like this more well-known one Yes, Greeks are responsible for just about everything in western culture.

    nk (875f57)

  39. 39. …Yes, Greeks are responsible for just about everything in western culture.

    Comment by nk (875f57) — 9/24/2013 @ 6:37 pm

    That’s a relief to hear. For the past five years Obama has been blaming Americans.

    Steve57 (b0c53e)

  40. nk,

    Do you suppose Greece will ever apologize to America for sending us Arianna Huffington ?

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  41. She was a nice Greek girl before moving to California, Elephant Stone. I blame California.

    nk (875f57)

  42. This is for you, Mark. Almost too good to be true. A billionaire, transgender, military expert, GOP donor. I sincerely hope your head doesn’t assplode from the cognitive dissidence. But feel free to analyze away and be sure to call for emergency help if you feel faint or if you have palpitations.

    Billionaire Jennifer Pritzker’s decision last month to publicly change her identity from male to female did not come as a surprise to those who mingle in the rarefied and protective world of Chicago’s super-rich.

    At some society events, the scion of the Hyatt Hotels fortune previously known as James Pritzker would appear in a black tuxedo, her lapel pinned with military honors, reflecting a long, distinguished career in the U.S. Army and the Illinois National Guard. At some she would appear as a woman, wearing a dress and a headband. And on other occasions, Pritzker, 63, would wear small tokens of her female identity, such as long earrings or blue polka-dotted fingernail polish.
    In 2010 alone, according to campaign records, she donated $582,500 to Republican gubernatorial nominee Bill Brady, including two $250,000 checks, despite Brady’s opposition to civil unions and gay marriage — issues Pritzker supports, sources say. Since February 2006, she has given more than $900,000, including two $250,000 checks, to another prominent Republican, Illinois Comptroller Judy Baar Topinka. Such large, direct gifts are now prohibited under state law.

    it is Jennifer Pritzker who has traveled the furthest — emerging from almost complete anonymity to become a prominent figure who regularly makes headlines, mostly as a real estate investor and preservationist. Now she has taken the step of changing her identity, a decision her investment firm announced in a short written statement. She declined interview requests.

    Until a few years ago, her most well-known endeavor was as the founder of the Pritzker Military Library. The Pritzker library houses military books, periodicals, artifacts, and audio and video archives, including interviews with Medal of Honor recipients. It also hosts regular forums with and speeches from military experts.

    elissa (491145)

  43. Now it is Succos – last day (Hoshanah Rabbah)

    Tonight is Shemini Atzeres and tomorrow night/friday is Simchas Torah.

    (In Israel that is collapsed into one day – although really this si aholiday with an extra that all sorts of things got connected to the econd day – and they really have Simchas Torah before Shemini Atzeres, as all the things connected with Simchas Torah (carrying Torah scrolls around, reading over and over again from the Torah, maybe dancing) come before things copnnected with Shemini Atzeres (mainly Yizkor)

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  44. Well, America’s Cup 34 is over. Oracle USA came from behind at the start and won the final race by 44 seconds. Final score TNZ 8, Oracle 9; one of the biggest comebacks in sporting history from TNZ’s 7-1 lead a week ago.

    htom (412a17)

  45. Have any of the races since they started allowing catamarans been in the North Atlantic? It would be interesting, if you like scoring by body count.

    the traditionalist nk (dbc370)

  46. Incredible, htom. Once Oracle figured out how to harness that speed, they were unbeatable.

    JD (5c1832)

  47. nk, my (limited) understanding is that there have been some big catamarans and trimarans raced in the on-shore North Atlantic, but they were not America’s Cup racing, and they were not foiling catamarans.

    JD, it’s astonishing the change those new foils made in Oracle’s boat, and how a new tactician changed their teamwork.

    htom (412a17)

  48. Thanks for taking the time to reply seriously, htom. I remember that the question went to court when the first cat was entered in the America’s Cup, but I know that that ship has sailed. 😉

    nk (dbc370)

  49. I’ve been making all these off-color jokes, lately. Here’s something a little bit different, maybe.

    C, E-flat, and G go into a bar. The bartender says, “Sorry, we don’t serve minors here.” So the E-flat leaves, and the C and the G have an open fifth between them. After a few drinks, the fifth is diminished and the G is out flat.

    An F comes in and tries to augment the situation, but is not sharp enough. A D comes into the bar and heads straight for the bathroom saying, “Excuse me. I’ll just be a second.”

    Then an A comes into the bar, but the bartender is not convinced that this relative of C is not a minor.

    Then the bartender notices a B-flat hiding at the end of the bar and exclaims, “Get out now. You’re the seventh minor I’ve found in this bar tonight.”

    The E-flat, not easily deflated, comes back to the bar the next night in a 3-piece suit with nicely shined shoes. The bartender (who used to have a nice corporate job before he got sick of the rat-race) says, “You’re looking sharp tonight, come on in! This could be a major development.”

    This proves to be the case, as the E-flat takes off the suit, and everything else, and stands there au natural.

    Eventually, the C sobers up, and realizes, in horror, that he’s under a rest. The C is brought to trial, is found guilty of contributing to the diminution of a minor, and is sentenced to 10 years of DS without Coda at an upscale correctional facility. On appeal, however, the C is found innocent of any wrongdoing, even accidental, and that all accusations to the contrary are bassless.

    The bartender decides, however, that since he’s only had tenor so patrons, everything has become all too much treble; he needs a rest, and closes the bar.

    nk (dbc370)

  50. Hey, guess what? Unexpectedly the Obama administration has caved to Putin over the UN Security Council resolution on Syria.

    …Western powers on the Security Council backed away from many of their initial demands, diplomats say, in order to secure Russia’s approval.

    …provides for no means of automatic enforcement as the United States, Britain and France originally wanted.

    …The only reference to enforcement in the draft is a threat that if Syria fails to comply with the resolution, the council would impose unspecified punitive measures under Chapter 7, which would require a second resolution that Russia could veto.

    …British Ambassador Mark Lyall Grant said he was pleased the draft resolution called for “accountability” for those responsible for the chemical attacks, although he added he would have liked a direct reference to the International Criminal Court in The Hague – something diplomats said Russia opposed.

    Based upon the language of the UN Security Council resolution condemning the sinking of the Cheonan that China forced the Obama administration to settle for, I’m going to go out on a limb and guess the language in this resolution doesn’t actually identify who “those responsible for the chemical attacks” are, either.

    You can guess how the Obama administration is describing this toothless, worthless resolution. Tough. Binding. Strong. Enforceable.

    Yes, to everyone’s shock and surprise they’re lying through their teeth about getting rolled at the UN. Who could have guessed that one.

    Now on to Iran!

    Steve57 (52f0df)

  51. HotAir comments on Smart Diplomacy as performed by Obama and his minions.

    Syrian official: UN resolution shows US lost
    posted at 8:41 am on September 27, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

    It’s difficult to argue with that assessment, too. Yesterday afternoon…

    Steve57 (52f0df)

  52. Maybe we were better off with the creep;

    Wow. Anthony “shameless-unrepentant-weirdo” Weiner versus Bill “ultra-liberal” de Blasio. To replace nanny-state, limousine-liberal Michael Bloomberg. Such choices are made in heaven.

    If one truly dislikes a community or society, fulfilling the wishes of radical groups like Acorn is a tactic that can be used in furthering that agenda.

    Mark (58ea35)

  53. I don’t want to dirty up that thread. It’s been asked, in the past, “what’s a troll?” It’s pretty clear that this one is. And this one has always been, probably the crawliest of the worms. I see reasons not to have them around and no reason to have them around.

    nk (dbc370)

  54. Yeah, I shouldn’t have let the guy provoke me.

    Steve57 (52f0df)

  55. We can beat up the creeps, here.

    nk (dbc370)

  56. Does anybody else get “Do you want to open or save analytics.js from” when you open a page here? I know what it is and how to fix it on my site, but I don’t know how to fix it on blogs I only visit like this one where I can’t access the template.

    nk (dbc370)

  57. How not to handle a home defense shooting:

    Police Fatally Shoot Man Who Killed Alleged Burglar

    ….“I heard a pop, so I ducked and then I was like that’s gunfire,” says neighbor Juan Garcia. “I had seen a guy in the alley laying down screaming for his life. Then, I see an old man with no shirt pointing a gun.”

    …Police identified the accused burglar as Jerry Wayne Hale, 30.

    “The homeowner did not back down. He was in his face and was fixing to pull the trigger again, put the gun right to his head. I was hollering at him saying ‘Please don’t kill him, don’t shoot him’,” says David Humphrey.

    Humphrey, a handyman, had been working on a nearby home. He ran over to help the bleeding man and says the homeowner turned the gun on him.

    “He cocked the gun back and stuck it right in my face,” says Humphrey. The homeowner told Humphrey, “Get away, get away, I’m fixing to kill him,” Humphrey said, “I call the cops, please don’t do that. I’ve called the cops.” Humphrey says the homeowner replied, “I’ll shoot them, too.”

    One additional observation; never give a kid the middle name “Wayne” unless you want to see him end up in prison or the morgue.

    Steve57 (52f0df)

  58. Re 59: Problem solved across all sites with Firefox. Sorry, IE, old buddy, you’ve been my best friend for a long time and I’ll always feel the loss.

    nk (dbc370)

  59. 53. Comment by Steve57 (52f0df) — 9/27/2013 @ 6:09 am

    Yes, to everyone’s shock and surprise they’re lying through their teeth about getting rolled at the UN. Who could have guessed that one.

    It doesn’t matter exactly what the UN Resolution says. It declares that the use of chemical weapons anywhere constitutes a threat to international peace and security, and that’s enough for President Obama and his retinue of constitutional lawyers to intervene militarily if he wants to.

    About the Syrian declaration of what they had, they did leave out some 20 of the 50 sites U.S. intelligence suspects might have chemical weapons, but they say maybe they didn’t quite understand what they had to do (it could also
    be some of these they just tried to make look as if they had some there)

    Sammy Finkelman (366297)

  60. Now on to Iran!

    It seems like everything Rouhani does, he has to take back. the Iranian Fars news agency repudiated his translator in his CNN interview – it seems he had his translator improve his remarks when translated into English – and he talked with President Obama and issued tweets about it but then had to delete them.

    The negotiations here kind of resemble the negotiations the United States had with Japan in 1941.

    In his UN speech Rouhani called the sanctions imposed on Iran a form of violence – there is a real possibility Iran may start the war first by attempting to sink a U.S. aircraft carrier or two, and attacking nearby U.S. bases with missiles.

    Sammy Finkelman (366297)

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