Pro-Abortion Activists in Texas Chant “Heil Satan!”
It’s been a very interesting day at the Texas State Capitol. Cahnman’s Musings hasn’t been following the hearing. Instead, we’ve been participating in the surrounding events. LetTexasSpeak has been doing a live broadcast from the rotunda where women have been sharing their abortion related testimonies. The pro-abortion crowd has responded with repeated chants of “hail Satan.” It’s taken us all day to get a video recording, but here it is:
And here is the recording:
The Blaze points out:
Obviously, it is much more likely that the abortion supporters were chanting “Hail Satan!” to mock pro-lifers rather than actually hailing Lucifer, but anything is possible.
I think it’s a mistake to assume that true evil always comes in the guise of a frowning or sneering monster. Often, it appears on a laughing face.
[Photos posted under the authority of Godwin’s law. — Ed.]
if Satan exists, this is how he would seek to spread his message: not through sincere worship of his evil ends, but through mockery of goodness.
a truly bizarre moment…
it will be interesting to see if this has any effect on “Christians” who also support abortion.
redc1c4 (403dff) — 7/3/2013 @ 7:57 amSome of this stuff is so over-the-top I wonder if its genuine. Would people on a mission go Westboro to win hearts and minds?
I trust nothing at face value anymore.
Sarahw (b0e533) — 7/3/2013 @ 8:28 amfetal idolatry is sorta like satanism in how Mr. God says we’re not supposed to have any other gods before him
but it’s possible to overthink these sorts of things
happyfeet (c60db2) — 7/3/2013 @ 8:32 amTrue.
Sarahw (b0e533) — 7/3/2013 @ 8:37 amWell said, Patterico. The ugliness is astounding. Who will be the first to die at the leftists’ hands?
BTW I don’t get the last pic. They’re shooting a Nazi officer…?
Patricia (be0117) — 7/3/2013 @ 8:38 amwell, since the abortion folks advertized for protestors on the local Graigslists, you have to wonder what sort of people they hired…
Occutards, for instance, are not known for their appreciation of optics outside their warped world view
redc1c4 (403dff) — 7/3/2013 @ 8:39 amBut I’m sure you will agree that’s awfully poor salesmanship, if one’s goal is to persuade others to one’s point of view. Then again, God got a round booing at the DNC.
I don’t know what’s real anymore.
Sarahw (b0e533) — 7/3/2013 @ 8:39 amNot killing children because you value human life is like Satanism? Why do you do this whenever the topic of abortion comes up? Being pro-life is purely about love for other people, particularly people who are powerless. It’s classical liberalism. It’s one thing to disagree, and another to actually display hatred towards people who want to preserve these lives for wholly selfless reasons.
I have always thought being pro-choice is rooted in a selfish ‘if it feels good right now, do it’ mentality, both in the origin of the child and the disposal of all that potential for the sake of lifestyle. In response all I ever hear in defense of abortion is ‘you want to force rape victims to bear children’. Complete dishonesty. It’s no surprise to me to see this dishonesty manifest so hatefully. Pro choicers have no alternative but to think only in terms of hatred for their opposition. It is not like they can actually rationalize their view and simply express that.
Dustin (303dca) — 7/3/2013 @ 8:41 amIs it wrong that images of Abu Ghraib popped into my head as I scrolled through these photos?
Chris (654abf) — 7/3/2013 @ 8:43 amI could see dedicated pro-lifers responding to the very same ads, and giving as vigorous a performance as possible. It’s theatre, and war.
Sarahw (b0e533) — 7/3/2013 @ 8:44 amIs it wrong that images of Abu Ghraib popped into my head as I scrolled through these photos?
Comment by Chris (654abf) — 7/3/2013 @ 8:43 am
I blame Bush.
JD (cead21) — 7/3/2013 @ 8:59 amThis is very effective at changing the focus of discussion from the human life of a 20-week fetus to satan.
Then again, I do wonder what really motivates those who so passionally want children dead. They are not interested in talking or reasoning. All they want is more severed hands in jars on a shelf. Ultimately, it is all about evil.
Amphipolis (d3e04f) — 7/3/2013 @ 9:02 amExactly. Jonah Goldberg made a similar point by putting a smiley face on the cover of his book, Liberal Facism.
Musicman (09b2d3) — 7/3/2013 @ 9:06 amGreetings:
I grew up in the Bronx of the ’50s and ’60s. Back then and there, the good Sisters of Mercy taught us that when it comes to the temptation to sin, Satan almost always has ease or pleasure on his side.
11B40 (d47011) — 7/3/2013 @ 9:14 amYou might with equal sense accuse anti-lynching activists of “negro idolatry”, or anti-Nazis of “Jewish idolatry”. Or anti-capital-punishment campaigners of “criminal idolatry”. One needn’t worship someone to be opposed to killing them.
Milhouse (3d0df0) — 7/3/2013 @ 9:31 amCleanup on aisle 14.
Milhouse (3d0df0) — 7/3/2013 @ 9:33 amAnd you thought some of us, like 27% of Amerikkka, were bats to consider Dog the antichrist, Lord of the Flies.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 7/3/2013 @ 9:36 amIf you tolerate the intolerable you will soon find that the intolerable will not tolerate you.
Amphipolis (d3e04f) — 7/3/2013 @ 9:45 amif you tolerate the more or less sorta kinda tolerable stuff other people do behind your back you will soon find you have time on your hands to where you don’t have to go to the capitol building downtown and hang out with a bunch of people what are narrowly fixated on this that or the other and instead you can go get tasty torchy’s tacos and enjoy them without people breaking into either hymns or satanic chantings
happyfeet (c60db2) — 7/3/2013 @ 10:01 amHow many people were murdered at Abu ghraib. Can you help us out here Chris?? Nearly 400,000 BABIES murdered at Obama’s favorite PLANNED PARENTHOOD last year.
Gus (694db4) — 7/3/2013 @ 10:04 amfetal idolatry?? STRAWMAN.
Gus (694db4) — 7/3/2013 @ 10:06 ampeople always say STRAWMAN like it’s some horrible awful terrible bad thing
happyfeet (c60db2) — 7/3/2013 @ 10:29 amoh and also I have a question is there an explanation for all the blue shirts the lifeydoodles are wearing or is that just a coincidence you think
nobody told me about the blue shirts
happyfeet (c60db2) — 7/3/2013 @ 10:41 amI hear a lot of the pro-baby killers talk about wire coat hangers. Do they still make wire coat hangers? Maybe we should just restri t those?
MSL (11fa66) — 7/3/2013 @ 10:52 amWearing blue was planned by the Stand For Life group, although the pro-choice crowd held a similar event at the Capitol in April — their goal is to turn Texas blue. I read yesterday that pro-choice activists urged their supports to wear blue and co-opt or disrupt the pro-life group’s plan but I can’t find a link today.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 7/3/2013 @ 10:52 amgot it that makes sense for to have a nice visual effect I guess
my new betta is blue his name is enrique for short
but enrique boo is his full name
but his nickname is kique boo cause of in colombia and perhaps other places that is the nickname for enrique
right now enrique lives in a decaf coffee pot but if he makes it to fall I will get him a for reals aquarium for so he has optimal living conditions, which is very pro-life of me
happyfeet (c60db2) — 7/3/2013 @ 11:07 amMr. Feets – In my neck of the woods straw is mostly a seasonal decoration around Halloween and useless for arguments.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/3/2013 @ 11:09 amMSL – The little chirren holding up the coat hanger signs were adorable and will make wonderful additions to family picture albums.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/3/2013 @ 11:10 amI for one, appreciate how the “pro-choice” movement continues to infantilize women, the little dears.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/3/2013 @ 11:16 amdaley-children just mature faster now and are more fully able to make social/political policy decisions for themselves than in days of yore. Why, I was 13 or 14, I think, before I read somewhere that wire hangers were not for hanging up dresses.
elissa (3eda8a) — 7/3/2013 @ 11:26 am@21 How many people were murdered at Abu ghraib. Can you help us out here Chris?? Nearly 400,000 BABIES murdered at Obama’s favorite PLANNED PARENTHOOD last year.
I don’t know about deaths at the Abu Ghraib facilities, but I think the total war-related deaths in all of Iraq is probably approaching 1m by now (an estimated 650k had been killed as of 2006).
I also don’t approve of babies being murdered via abortion, so What’s your point?
Chris (654abf) — 7/3/2013 @ 12:31 pmelissa – Yes, but the coat hanger poster chirren outside the Texas state house what I saw were more like 4-6 years old. Absolutely precious!
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/3/2013 @ 12:32 pmSo you are saying you don’t think 4-6 year olds came up with that all on their own and demanded to go to the rally?
elissa (3eda8a) — 7/3/2013 @ 12:35 pmelissa – They might could have. Like you say, kids mature so much faster these days, plus they learn from the adults around them.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/3/2013 @ 12:53 pmI also heard that there were shouts that Mary (as in Mary and Joseph fame) should have had an abortion.
I think the Alinskyites are just coming out of the closet; sticking to “lucifer” just doesn’t have the general impact as saying satan.
CS Lewis mentions in the Screwtape Letters that satan is just as happy if people mock his existence in disbelief. Easy pickin’s when you don’t know you have an enemy.
and feets, the OT seems to universally link idol worship to those who offered babies in sacrfice, not to those who thought it was a bad idea to kill them.
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 7/3/2013 @ 1:05 pmAnd your pro abortion rhetoric became unfunny before it even started.
Some things can be made fun of, but when some other things are made fun of you join the list of the infamous pictured above.
elissa – Maybe you could call it coat hanger idolatry?
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/3/2013 @ 1:15 pmLooks like sicko’s been practicin’ with his Weatherby.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/07/02/Study-Republicans-Leaving-Party-Are-Tired-of-Two-Evils-Argument
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 7/3/2013 @ 1:18 pmI love leftists that still invoke But Bush Chimpy McHitlerBurton as a form of argument.
JD (a3f19f) — 7/3/2013 @ 1:24 pmone thing for sure is that mister unhappyfeet is pro-life when it comes to his strawmen—he never aborts them !
Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 7/3/2013 @ 1:26 pmThey chanted satan so people would not listen to the women sharing their abortion related testimonies. They want us to talk about satan.
And yes, I say red herring as if it’s some horrible awful terrible bad thing, as if it’s designed to prevent rational discourse and manipulate people to help facilitate the murder of the next generation.
We don’t just eat our young. We gorge on them until we are sick.
Amphipolis (d3e04f) — 7/3/2013 @ 1:29 pmChris #32 – please try to keep up, dearie …
You are quoting the 2006 Grauniad – the planetary Gold Standard for Inaccuracy in Reporting (that frequently cannot even spell its *own* name correctly) – quoting a Lancet “study” which has been debunked many times, and that starts with a photo with the text “The aftermath of a Baghdad bomb attack – a study published in the Lancet estimates that 655,000 Iraqis have died as a result of the war.” – implying that bomb attacks are a result of the war, rather than just being how the various local sects and power groups interact whether they are in a country in that war or not …
Apart from those details, for you, your comment was remarkably perceptive … it definitely merits a F for F-ort …
Alastor (e7cb73) — 7/3/2013 @ 1:36 pmAlastor – Even that inflated Lancet death toll represented a slower death toll than Saddam Hussein was inflicting on his own people, but people don’t want to talk about that in terms of who removing him from power actually saved Iraqi lives. Go figure.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/3/2013 @ 1:42 pmThat’s a very insightful question, Patricia, but considering untold millions have already died at the hands of leftists, I suppose your question would be better framed as, “Who will be the first in this country to die at the leftist’s hands,” in which case another untold legion already have.
But further, were your question to be framed as, “Who will be the first sentient American to die at the hands of leftists?” I would have to say probably only one.
Because were that to happen, I’m fairly certain the left would incur the bloody constraint of those they wrongly assumed to be too cowed by the majesty of the same False Prophet “they’ve been waiting for.”
My Sharia Moor (59f74c) — 7/3/2013 @ 1:43 pmIf you never admit that unborn babies are human, you never have to admit that you were ever helplessly dependent on your mother’s body. Hence you don’t have to acknowledge any debt to your parents for your life, and you can claim to have total liberty.
Suburbanbanshee (44ac78) — 7/3/2013 @ 1:54 pmdaleyrocks – Yeah in the family photobucket album under the title “missed you by that much” or “the irony of it all”.
The arguments from illiberals are interesting or maybe stupid is a better word. They argue for abortion saying if it’s not Dr Kermit cheap and dirty, unsanitary coat hangers is a happing in some back alley somewhere. But if you are discussing gun control they reject outright the notion that only law abiding citizens obey the law, pretending these controls will stop the murders. They pretend to care about a few thousand, or a few dozen children, while demanding the right to murder of millions of children every year.
MSL (5f601f) — 7/3/2013 @ 2:23 pmSuburbanbanshee – I have nice pictures from the first birthday parties for each of my fetuses, you know with the cake and balloons, the works.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/3/2013 @ 2:23 pmNobody ever asks an expectant mother, “So when is your fetus or lifeydoodle due ?”
Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 7/3/2013 @ 2:30 pmyou know there’s a reason you can’t spell fetish without f-e-t-i-s
you feel me?
I know you do.
it’s cause of they both come from the same middle french cognate which denotes an unhealthy fixation on other people’s bidness and such
it’s etymology which is the same as science, more or less
just a little food for thought there heading into the 4-day weekend
happyfeet (c60db2) — 7/3/2013 @ 2:30 pmMr. Feets – You stay out of my uterus and I’ll stay out of yours. You can’t ask for a better deal than that!
Happy 4th!
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/3/2013 @ 2:40 pmSuburbanbanshee
MSL (5f601f) — 7/3/2013 @ 2:51 pmSCOTUS says it’s not a human, for human purposes.
Their siblings really have high hopes it’s a cute puppy or kitten.
mister unhappyfeet, aren’t those French people the ones who introduced the guillotine ? Or something ?
You have a fetish for middle French root words, and I have a fetish for Shakespeare—his works, not him. He was English.
And England was like America’s Mother Country.
One of my favorite lines by Shakespeare appears in Romeo & Juliet, and it goes like this;
A
Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 7/3/2013 @ 2:55 pmrosebaby by any other name is still arosebaby.Happy 4th Mr. daley! Please to enjoy a deviled egg made from Paula Deen’s very own recipe what I found on the internet plus also let’s all of us reflect on what independence day means with respect to independence and stuff and how this relates to the concepts of individual liberty and also personal freedom
then we can circle back around as they say
happyfeet (c60db2) — 7/3/2013 @ 2:56 pmi agree Mr. Stone but the thing about babies is – the vast majority of them – the overwhelming lion’s share actually – they’re none of my bidness
and I believe that in my heart
I’m a focus on what the good lord put on my plate and everyone else they have their own crosses to bear
in fact my understanding is that we all have our crosses to bear
it’s a thing
happyfeet (c60db2) — 7/3/2013 @ 2:59 pmmister unhappyfeet, are you aware that people used to justify slavery by saying it was nobody else’s business ?
Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 7/3/2013 @ 3:09 pmAs long as they were at it, they should have used Jerry Goldsmith’s score from the ‘Omen;
narciso (3fec35) — 7/3/2013 @ 3:12 pm@42 You are quoting the 2006 Grauniad – the planetary Gold Standard for Inaccuracy in Reporting (that frequently cannot even spell its *own* name correctly) – quoting a Lancet “study” which has been debunked many times, and that starts with a photo with the text “The aftermath of a Baghdad bomb attack – a study published in the Lancet estimates that 655,000 Iraqis have died as a result of the war.” – implying that bomb attacks are a result of the war, rather than just being how the various local sects and power groups interact whether they are in a country in that war or not …
So you’re saying that regardless of whether we were ever there trying to liberate Iraq or not, over a million Iraqis would have been killed in the last decade via bomb attacks or other violent activities? Would you say we contributed to that exorbitantly high Iraqi death toll or we diminished it from a much larger potential during our attempt to liberate them from tyranny? Based on current events it’s hard to tell we were ever there in the first place. But at least we have photographic evidence of it, should history ever really wonder.
Chris (654abf) — 7/3/2013 @ 3:15 pmJohn 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
peedoffamerican (ee1de0) — 7/3/2013 @ 3:37 pmChris – So are you saying you were not aware that Saddam Hussein was engaged in raping and pillaging his own country, the suppression of his opposition and huge number of Iraqi deaths annually before our invasion?
Are you saying that you are unaware of the trends in Iraqi violence since Obama’s failure to negotiate a Status of Forces Agreement with Maliki, sending the country spiraling backward once again?
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/3/2013 @ 3:54 pmJohn 10;10, may be on point.
narciso (3fec35) — 7/3/2013 @ 3:57 pmThe sight of these frothing at the mouth screaming leftist lunatics (Hail Satan!!??) is such a plus for the pro life side that if they didn’t show up it would be smart to hire actors to play the parts. (That said, I fear there will be no shortage of deranged pro aborts, alas.)
Funeral Guy (51a2fe) — 7/3/2013 @ 4:16 pmShorter Chris – I blame Bush. And, I desperately want to tlk a out how much I hate Bush. And avoid talking about the Dems creepy obsession with the death cult that is rioting for late term abortions
JD (e70b27) — 7/3/2013 @ 4:29 pmShorter JD: We are only allowed to discuss my pre-approved topics and any analogy that controverts my sacred Church of Staunch Conservativism is forever and always disallowed.
Ian G. (b2d693) — 7/3/2013 @ 4:33 pmShorter Ian G. – You need to pay attention to Chris’ lies, or something.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/3/2013 @ 4:38 pmThe Left is sure filled with hatred and bile.
Chris, the Lancet article has been repudiated by the Lancet itself. It was a rubbish “study” with bogus methodology.
SPQR (768505) — 7/3/2013 @ 4:45 pmshorter daleyrocks-jibber jibber jibber jabber
Ian G. (b2d693) — 7/3/2013 @ 4:47 pmLate term abortion bans have pretty widespread popular support. Why do Democrats hate Democracy so much?
SPQR (768505) — 7/3/2013 @ 4:50 pmSerial trolls are cute. Bless your little heart, Ian.
JD (e70b27) — 7/3/2013 @ 4:53 pmI had to laugh when I read:
True enough. Except that Mr. Feet does care very much what other people think about their own business. He just wants everyone to have his own enlightened views.
It all goes back to “Animal Farm” and the barn door.
Silly pikachu.
Simon Jester (c8876d) — 7/3/2013 @ 4:59 pmSay what you will, the left has no match when it comes to throwing a giant conniption fit guaranteed to attract the attention of the media. I won’t bother to link, but on the NRO homepage there is a photo gallery chock full of callow college kids, grey and feeble followers of Gloria Steinem, and, um, women who really like to play softball all holding up obnoxious signs with vapid little pro-abortion scrawls. But I’ll bet not a one of them can make a rational and cogent argument for why we should arbitrarily destroy a 25-week-old child in the womb.
JVW (23867e) — 7/3/2013 @ 5:10 pmWhy do Democrats hate Democracy so much?
Why do conservatives hate gays so much?
Ian G. (b2d693) — 7/3/2013 @ 5:48 pmAnd why do trolls think the non sequitur is not a logical fallacy?
SPQR (768505) — 7/3/2013 @ 5:54 pmLets save “Ian” some hyper-ventilating – racist imperialist sexist hohophobic xenophobic misogynistic transtesticlephobic rapers of Mother Gaia and women’s uteri.
JD (e70b27) — 7/3/2013 @ 6:00 pmConsidering I’m a 47 year-old queer who knows that Democrats value me for nothing more than my vote, I’ll kindly ask you to shut the fuck up about what you think is best for me, douchebag.
My Sharia Moor (59f74c) — 7/3/2013 @ 6:08 pmIt really makes no sense to seriously engage rabid pro-abortionists. It may even be sacrilegious.
And, no, sacrilege and sacroiliac do not share the same etymology and neither do fetus and fetish. (It’s ok to point out when they lie obviously.)
nk (875f57) — 7/3/2013 @ 6:11 pmAlec Baldwin is conservative?
TomB (4a72e4) — 7/3/2013 @ 6:14 pmSPQR-are we supposed to answer your stupid, ridiculous question while you poke fun at my ridiculous questions?
Ian G. (b2d693) — 7/3/2013 @ 6:15 pmMr. nk did you know for example that my christian name, happyfeet, is directly derived from happifetus, which in the original gaelic of course meant “teensy but cheerful homunculus.”
It’s a true fact ask the googles.
happyfeet (c60db2) — 7/3/2013 @ 6:20 pmIan G., no one expects answers from trolls like yourself.
SPQR (768505) — 7/3/2013 @ 6:25 pmI’m told I have a homunculus in my head that hurt its foot and is now making mine unhappy. Hmm.
nk (875f57) — 7/3/2013 @ 6:30 pm77-Then prove you’re not a troll and answer all of mine.
Ian G. (b2d693) — 7/3/2013 @ 6:32 pmAt least not ones that are intelligent, or understandable.
askeptic (2bb434) — 7/3/2013 @ 6:35 pmIan G., no. That’s not how one proves one isn’t a troll.
Meanwhile, the pro abortion protestors in Texas are showing that they are a hate-filled, foul mouthed bunch.
SPQR (768505) — 7/3/2013 @ 6:36 pmYes, SPQR, please answer Ian’s answers – he deserves it.
askeptic (2bb434) — 7/3/2013 @ 6:36 pmOh, you must be talking about Leftists again, SPQR.
askeptic (2bb434) — 7/3/2013 @ 6:37 pmA pox on both their houses!
All of these over-the-top theatrics add nothing to the debate, but simply illustrate the irrationality and stupidity of the protesters.
It is possible to oppose abortion on moral grounds, and still adamantly oppose government oversight and control of the decision. Government should keep its nose out of our private lives. Those arrogant old men on Capitol Hill have no right to tell a woman what choices to make regarding her own body.
Claire Boston (4cb4a0) — 7/3/2013 @ 6:54 pmsacrilege and sacroiliac do not share the same etymology and neither do fetus and fetish.
Comment by nk (875f57) — 7/3/2013 @ 6:11 pm
He’s Greek, he knows these things. I saw it in a movie.
Sorry to hear your humunculus’ foot is bothering you.
There are other people it should be bothering instead, in their gluteus.
The problem is that some on the left are so over the top it is hard to take them seriously, but they are serious and they blindly take each other seriously.
Really, praising satan in a public rally is supposed to win friends for your side?
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 7/3/2013 @ 6:57 pmCalling Dale Carnegie.
Parens Patriae is as old as Western Civilization. If there are no laws for the protection of children, even from their own parents, there should be no laws at all.
nk (875f57) — 7/3/2013 @ 7:01 pmgo skeddadle back under teh bridge, IanG.
Colonel Haiku (ee023f) — 7/3/2013 @ 7:01 pmReally, praising satan in a public rally is supposed to win friends for your side?
A long time ago I read a theory that an evil person cannot be truly intelligent because he has to shut down part of his mind to entertain the thoughts he entertains and to live with the actions he takes.
nk (875f57) — 7/3/2013 @ 7:13 pmWell, I guess it might depend on whether your definition of “intelligence” includes “wisdom” or not.
In the context of discussing the devil, there is the big issue of whether or not one can be both intelligent and yet deceived.
Then again, there is “Thinking they were wise, they became fools…”
I think that is pretty accurate of the above. I bet they thought they were pretty clever in their tactics, but even a nonreligious person can judge them to be actually quite foolish.
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 7/3/2013 @ 7:20 pm“Those arrogant old men on Capitol Hill have no right to tell a woman what choices to make regarding her body.”
Claire – Oh dear. I thought those legislators in in the Texas Capitol were writing laws and making women’s “health care” safer in Texas, but now I am told they are telling a woman what choices to make regarding her body. I completely missed that!
Are they telling her not to have sex?
Are they telling not to have sex without contraception?
Are they telling her she should have no right to decide to keep a clump of cells if she becomes pregnant?
Are they telling her she has no right to find a safe, clean qualified health care provider if the woman elects to rid herself of an unwanted clump of cells?
Claire, what choices are being forced on the woman?
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/3/2013 @ 7:53 pmThose arrogant old men on Capitol Hill have no right to tell a woman what choices to make regarding her own body.
You do know this is not happening in DC?
I love the dichotomy of leftists claiming to want to remove government from the doctors office and at the same time inflicting the entire nation with government micro-managed healthcare.
JD (e70b27) — 7/3/2013 @ 8:06 pmJD – That’s different!
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/3/2013 @ 8:10 pmI’m learning Florida law from the Zimmerman case. Florida classifies partial birth abortion as homicide, unless the life of the mother is endangered and even then life-saving measures must be taken to preserve the life of the baby, but with no criminal penalties for the mother. I don’t know the details of the Texas law. I hope it’s something similar.
nk (875f57) — 7/3/2013 @ 8:22 pmhttp://clinicquotes.com/student-compares-unborn-baby-to-tapeworm/
“I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby,” Obama said.” 2008
Its pick ’em time – your choice:
– [college student] a baby is just a tapeworm in a different organ, or
– [President of the United States] teach your daughters values and morals and if that fails just encourage them to kill their baby
The penumbra of ethical, moral thought on the left.
in_awe (7c859a) — 7/3/2013 @ 8:27 pmYou do know this is not happening in DC?
not if smarmy smarmy marco rubio el cubano mas authentico has anything to say about it
fetuses are his ticket back into the limelight
happyfeet (8ce051) — 7/3/2013 @ 8:48 pmThose arrogant old men on Capitol Hill have no right to tell a woman what choices to make regarding her own body.
Comment by Claire Boston (4cb4a0) — 7/3/2013 @ 6:54 pm
See Claire, that’s the problem with arrogant people like you. It’s not her body that she is doing something to! It is a completely separate human individual distinguishable by its own DNA. And as for her choices, that came when she chose to spread her legs with the knowledge that it leads to the possibility of conception. It is not a valid choice to extinguish an innocent life in order to avoid responsibility for your selfish and irresponsible behavior!
peedoffamerican (c1642d) — 7/3/2013 @ 9:11 pmelissa – Yes, but the coat hanger poster chirren outside the Texas state house what I saw were more like 4-6 years old. Absolutely precious!
Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/3/2013 @ 12:32 pm
You ever wonder what the little tykes would say to their mommy’s if someone explained to them what abortion is, and that is what mommy wants to be able to do with your little unborn brother or sister? They would probably be beating mommy’s ass with those obnoxious signs that mommy made them carry.
peedoffamerican (a84075) — 7/3/2013 @ 9:16 pmthat came when she chose to spread her legs
this is exactly right – most women what have abortions are ignorant sluts
(you can tell cause of how they’re usually named desiree or christal or lexxus)
except – and this is important – except for sometimes when god blesses a womens with a rape baby
then it’s not necessarily all her fault
happyfeet (8ce051) — 7/3/2013 @ 9:22 pmwhen god blesses a womens with a rape baby
then it’s not necessarily all her fault
Comment by happyfeet (8ce051) — 7/3/2013 @ 9:22 pm
Yeah that really happens a lot doesn’t it? EXCEPT THIS IS IMPORTANT, victims of rape account for less than .05% of performed abortions. Besides which, why do you want to kill the innocent baby? It didn’t rape anybody!
peedoffamerican (a84075) — 7/3/2013 @ 9:32 pmabortions over 20 weeks account for way less than 5% of all abortions and a lot of those are cause of fetal abnormalities and such
so statistically that part of the texas law isn’t gonna do very much at all
but that doesn’t make a woman blessed with a rape baby any less blessed ask Santorum he’ll tell you
happyfeet (8ce051) — 7/3/2013 @ 9:43 pmNot 5%! I made a mistake in typing and listed it as 0.05%. It is actually somewhere around 0.5%, and that is including victims of rape by incest! The latest statistics I can find reported approx 86,000 rapes in 1 year. The research estimates for a woman getting pregnant with one sexual encounter or incidence of rape is 5%. So if 86,000 women per year are raped, and 5% conceive = approx 4300, and if (big if) they all decide to abort that would be 0.005 or 0.5% of 860,000 abortions in a year.
peedoffamerican (a84075) — 7/3/2013 @ 10:13 pmFurthermore, that means that 99.5% of abortions or approx 855,700 abortions are for birth control otherwise known as convenience abortions.
peedoffamerican (c1642d) — 7/3/2013 @ 10:17 pmMr. Feets – What is the and such portion?
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/3/2013 @ 10:25 pmExcuse, girlfriend pregnant let’s abort it—–after all it’s just puppies! Or a tapeworm?
MY GOD these people are not only sick in the head, they are 100% pure evil. They know their father, Satan, very well!
peedoffamerican (04dfe5) — 7/3/2013 @ 10:34 pmthis is so embarrassing
i was on a roll Mr. daley but now I’m just plum tuckered out
it’s been a long week
i just
i just wish people were more focused on less regulatings and less of this idea that the purpose of government is to forcibly circumscribe the behavior of people what think differently
but it appears that in these waning days of failmerica left and right have forged an astounding consensus that the sublime righteousness of government coercion is a truth what we hold to be self-evident
and the pikachu stands alone
happyfeet (8ce051) — 7/3/2013 @ 10:42 pmMr. Feets – It is terrible horrible forcible circumscribalble circumcision to ask an eeny weeny portion of teh wimmins to make their minds up whether they want to keep a clump of cells after 20 weeks instead of 26 weeks more like other civilized countries plus get safer borting conditions. It is truly a sign of fascist failamerica banana statism.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/3/2013 @ 11:36 pmi just wish people were more focused on less regulatings and less of this idea that the purpose of government is to forcibly circumscribe the behavior of people what think differently
but it appears that in these waning days of failmerica left and right have forged an astounding consensus that the sublime righteousness of government coercion is a truth what we hold to be self-evident
and the pikachu stands alone
Comment by happyfeet (8ce051) — 7/3/2013 @ 10:42 pm
Yep you got one thing right, failamerica. And it is those that support abortion that is one of the causes for it to be so! You even hint at it when you say, “truth what we hold to be self-evident”, BUT you are not understanding it! First among the three rights listed is the right to LIFE! And without that Life, the other two rights cannot exist.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness
It is the duty of the government to protect its citizens from all threats, both foreign and domestic. That unborn baby in truth is a future citizen and future of this country! Almost 50 million babies have been aborted since Roe v Wade. That’s 5 followed by 7 zeros, or 50,000,000. About one-sixth of the people that are living citizens at this time.
We have aborted our future as a nation. It is a Travesty! And it is an Injustice! It is Barbaric as Hell! We have failed to protect the most vulnerable among us, all for the sake of convenience! Well, it is pretty damn inconvenient to me and to the unborn babies themselves.
That evil man, Hitler, has nothing on us as a nation. In fact, compared to doctors, who take an oath to “First do no harm”, Hitler was just a piker. This country has participated in another Holocaust that is 8 and 1/3 times greater. Murdering helpless babies in the womb, not in self-defense, not as enemy soldiers in war, not even as criminals, but for convenience.
Here’s a brief description of that “clump of cells” that these monsters want to be able to kill at 20 weeks:
How your baby’s growing:
Your baby weighs about 10 1/2 ounces now. He’s also around 6 1/2 inches long from head to bottom and about 10 inches from head to heel — about the size of a banana. (For the first 20 weeks, when a baby’s legs are curled up against his torso and hard to measure, measurements are taken from the top of his head to his bottom — the “crown to rump” measurement. After 20 weeks, he’s measured from head to toe.)
He’s swallowing more these days, which is good practice for his digestive system. He’s also producing meconium, a black, sticky by-product of digestion. This gooey substance will accumulate in his bowels, and you’ll see it in his first soiled diaper (some babies pass meconium in the womb or during delivery).
http://www.babycenter.com/6_your-pregnancy-20-weeks_1109.bc
Doesn’t sound like just a clump of cells, or a tapeworm to me! Does this look like a clump of cells? http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00834/SNN2915AN-380_834593a.jpg
How about now? http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00834/SNN2915DN–682_834625a.jpg
And while that baby was only 23 weeks at the time of birth. Read it!
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2506005/Jessica-goes-home-despite-being-born-at-just-23-weeks-and-given-5-survival-chance.htm
May GOD have mercy upon our souls! For if HE grants us justice instead, we and our country are doomed!
peedoffamerican (04dfe5) — 7/4/2013 @ 12:24 amIt’s hard to find educated people about this subject, however, you seem like you know what you’re talking about!
Jasmine (ddd5b8) — 7/4/2013 @ 4:55 amThanks
http://blog.chron.com/bigjolly/2013/07/texas-democrats-hail-satan-satan-objects/
heh..
E.PWJ (bdd0a6) — 7/4/2013 @ 7:34 amFor if HE grants us justice instead, we and our country are doomed!
Comment by peedoffamerican (04dfe5) — 7/4/2013 @ 12:24 am
Indeed.
In some ways it seems to be like Nazi Germany in that even those of us opposing abortion (at least myself, anyway) are not more appalled by it and desperate to end it, not by law but by other actions such as begging expectant mothers to deliver their baby with the promise we will raise him/her instead.
In that sense we are like German citizens who knew something was wrong in the death camps but simply shrugged their shoulders, thought, “What can I do about it anyway?” and went on living their own life.
A truly “terrible” song, as in “terrible swift sword”:
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 7/4/2013 @ 8:49 amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT8OPGrTg-c
Yeah, I meant in this country this era, My Sharia.
I was thinking it would be Paula Dean, either by suicide or some nut killing her. The actions against her seem like the Chinese Cultural Revolution to me.
Patricia (be0117) — 7/4/2013 @ 9:07 amWhat can we do about it, MD?
DRJ (a83b8b) — 7/4/2013 @ 9:14 amPatricia–To me the question is, why of all the people in America did they decide to isolate and demonize Paula Deen? And yes, it has shades of the Cultural Revolution with a larger side order of Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals. But why her? It clearly was a decision to mount a campaign against this woman–by somebody with quite a bit of power. I’m sure her white southern heritage is part of it but…..
elissa (18e70c) — 7/4/2013 @ 9:37 amOften I hear the pro-abortion argument of, but nobody wants the child and just think how crappy their life will be because they are unwanted or growing up in an orphanage. I have family members and some friends that were orphans, they not only survived despite having a rough time growing up, they thrived in the end. I am not sure I can properly articulate this, but adversity often gives a person a much better character. We celebrate people who overcome great odds not people who never faced opposition.
There was a story recently about an old woman from the LA area that was raped back in ‘20’s or ‘30’s and became pregnant. She gave that child up for adoption because she could not properly care for her child. Recently they were re-united. Turns out her daughter who was conceived through a hideous act not only thrived but her children thrived even more, one of her sons today is an astronaut. It is sad to imagine, but if that happened today the outcome would not be the same. I wonder how many of these great people we will never know because their lives were denied based upon another’s right?
Happy 4th to everyone.
MSL (5f601f) — 7/4/2013 @ 9:51 amMrs. Beauchamp doesn’t dissapoint;
http://twitchy.com/2013/07/04/lib-journalist-blasts-twitchy-for-fake-pro-abortion-photo-ends-up-eating-crow/
narciso (3fec35) — 7/4/2013 @ 3:30 pmYou’d really think she’d be better versed on fake wouldn’t you, narciso?
elissa (18e70c) — 7/4/2013 @ 3:40 pmWell she’s almost invariably wrong,
narciso (3fec35) — 7/4/2013 @ 3:51 pmI haven’t seen this on the comment thread yet. Via Instapundit:
http://americanglob.com/2013/07/03/hilarious-real-satanists-want-nothing-to-do-with-abortion-supporters/
Steve57 (c74c87) — 7/4/2013 @ 4:08 pmYeah, Steve57, I saw that elsewhere.
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 7/4/2013 @ 4:33 pmWhen the “Church of Satan” rejects you as over the top, well, you must be over the top…
But in another way it is unfortunate, because it ads to the sense of it all being a farce,
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 7/4/2013 @ 4:34 pmbut there is no farce when it is about the loss of innocent human life
Why do you want to kill me or let me be killed Mr happyfeet? What have I done to you that deserves me dying?
An aborted baby (127915) — 7/5/2013 @ 11:31 amAh, the Kitty Genovese school of thought.
Milhouse (3d0df0) — 7/5/2013 @ 2:54 pmSo if you smother your children in their beds or drown them in the bath it’s none of the government’s business, right? If you rape someone in private the government should keep its nose out. Tell me, when does something become the government’s business. And what is government for, anyway, if not to protect people from other people’s violence? In any case, when you go for an abortion at a clinic it’s by definition not private any more.
What has their sex or age got to do with it? Do you also think white legislators have no right to make laws for black people, and vice versa?
Nobody has the right to tell people what to do to their own bodies. But they do have the right to tell people what choices to make regarding other people’s bodies, especially those of helpless babies.
Milhouse (3d0df0) — 7/5/2013 @ 3:06 pm1. The Texas Capitol is not on a hill.
2. The legislators include plenty who are humble, young, female, or all three.
Milhouse (3d0df0) — 7/5/2013 @ 3:11 pmThen what exactly is the purpose of government, feets? If it’s not to forcibly circumscribe the behavior of people what think it’s OK to mug old ladies or rape young ones or kidnap people or kill them dead, then really what’s it good for? Nothing.
Milhouse (3d0df0) — 7/5/2013 @ 3:16 pmIf that were a valid argument, then the same should apply to abandoned babies whom nobody wants to adopt. Let’s say, give it a year, and if after a year nobody has shown any interest in the baby, put it down. Why not? Isn’t it a kindness to spare it a crappy life? For that matter, why limit it to babies? Tell the kids in foster care that if they don’t get adopted and they don’t like their crappy life, they can get aborted instead.
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the purpose of government?
fostering economic opportunity for one
Does rick dumbass momochild haircut perry really think any respectable company of any size is going to relocate to fetopia?
Good luck with that, momochild.
happyfeet (8ce051) — 7/5/2013 @ 10:57 pmI would have gladly relocated myself and any company that i might have owned had they not murdered me in my mommy’s womb.
An aborted baby (35b482) — 7/5/2013 @ 11:39 pmyeah well that would be you
happyfeet (8ce051) — 7/5/2013 @ 11:46 pmMr happyfeet, why do you want to let people kill me before I get the chance at life like you have? I would gladly be adopted or live in a foster home or maybe even an orphanage, because then I would get to eat some of that tasty Ice Cream you talk of sometimes. By the way, Mr happyfeet, what is Ice Cream? You see I really want to know because I never got to taste it because they dismembered me in my mommy’s womb. Is it really tasty? Please can you tell me what it’s like to eat it?
An aborted baby (127915) — 7/6/2013 @ 2:49 amReally?! Governments were instituted among men to foster economic opportunity?! That’s a new one on me. Where did you read such a thing, or did you come up with it on your own?
Um, have you not noticed that he’s actually being very successful in that very task? Unless you’re using “respectable” in some private way.
Milhouse (3d0df0) — 7/6/2013 @ 7:09 pmyes you have to secure basic rights Mr. Milhouse and then get government out of the way for men to prosper
sure you can have a cowardly inept corrupt government like our one
easy peasy!
but yeah if you want a respectable government you have to be living in a society what privileges the fostering of economic opportunity over and above the narrow agendas of religious zealots
it’s a thing
on the second thing – we’ll see i guess
I think once fetopia kicks into high gear you’re gonna have a way harder time getting companies what employ college graduates in any meaningful number to relocate there
happyfeet (8ce051) — 7/6/2013 @ 7:14 pmhttp://minx.cc/?post=341556
Probably not what’s going on there, though. This is probably more the people beinmg prosecutred are innocent trope, than anything else.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 7/10/2013 @ 2:00 pmLast word.
peedoffamerican (ee1de0) — 7/10/2013 @ 8:15 pmNope.
SPQR (768505) — 7/10/2013 @ 8:16 pmfetuses are the effing best
they’re like christmas and blowjobs and tres leches cake all rolled up into one dazzling showcase showdown and all you have to do is figure out how much a frickin box of rice-uh-ronie costs and this drew carey person, he is not a patient man
but I know you can do it I believe in you
happyfeet (8ce051) — 7/10/2013 @ 8:31 pmlast
Yoda (c1642d) — 7/12/2013 @ 2:12 amThe Texas abortion bill has passed and will go to Governor Perry for signing.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 7/13/2013 @ 10:02 amI understand people, especially liberals, who fear any changes to abortion law might undermine the right to an abortion. They fear the incremental approach because that’s how many liberals undermine values conservatives hold dear.
But I don’t understand why anyone would oppose changes like this:
DRJ (a83b8b) — 7/13/2013 @ 12:44 pmEspecially if you know and care about someone who may one day have an abortion in Texas.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 7/13/2013 @ 12:46 pmit’s just creepy how our little country is dying of a figurative venereal disease like a whore and all Team R can do is maunder about fetuses and amnesty
they don’t live in the same world as real people what have actual problems
happyfeet (8ce051) — 7/13/2013 @ 12:56 pmThe other day I came across this really great takedown of the abortion enthusiasts who are going off their collective nut over this law.
http://nakeddc.com/2013/07/11/texas-dude-says-guys-wont-have-sex-anymore-if-abortion-laws-pass/
It’s a good read.
Steve57 (7c82fc) — 7/13/2013 @ 1:05 pmFirst, we stopped caring about the unborn (abortion);
askeptic (2bb434) — 7/13/2013 @ 1:07 pmthen, we stopped caring about the aged (euthanasia);
eventually, there was no one left to care about, or to care for us.
Mr. Feets – I don’t unnerstand why the Pervert Party is so up in arms to throw urine and feces on people to preserve the right for unsafe abortions for wimmins. It underwhelms unnerstandings most times, the intolerance and lack of compassion and teh hateyness.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/13/2013 @ 1:12 pmyou’re not supposed to throw urine and feces on people it’s one of the rules
happyfeet (8ce051) — 7/13/2013 @ 1:15 pmUnless you’re a Jihadist.
askeptic (2bb434) — 7/13/2013 @ 1:17 pmMr. Feets – Yet some people say conservatives need to be more like teh Pervert Party and pander like teh wind to teh illegal immigrants, teh gheys, teh 24/7/365 fetus flensers, teh no means tested entitlement reform, etc. or we will never win anymore elections and I say these people are not staunch conservative pipl but progressive Pervert Party wolves in disguise, but nobody tells me nothing.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/13/2013 @ 1:18 pmThere are “snake-oil salesmen” in every profession, and line-of-work, why would politics not have them?
askeptic (2bb434) — 7/13/2013 @ 1:20 pm“you’re not supposed to throw urine and feces on people it’s one of the rules”
Mr. Feets – Oh, teh demonstrators against safe bortions for teh wimmins just forgot they were carrying containers of feces and urine when they showed up at teh Texas Capitol or something? They are a ditzy confused bunch, so I could belieb that.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/13/2013 @ 1:21 pmMr. daley that is all very well and good but the reason Texans passed a shiny new fetus law has nothing to do with fetuses and everything to do with their deluded whore governor thinking him’s gonna run for president
happyfeet (8ce051) — 7/13/2013 @ 1:23 pmUncalled for!
askeptic (2bb434) — 7/13/2013 @ 1:25 pmMr. Feets – I don’t think Gov. Oops is going to run or if does run that he will be successful. I am addressing my comments more to your whining about Republican maundering.
I thought panders were something you went to see at the zoo and not part of conservative principles, but nobody tells me nothing.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/13/2013 @ 1:53 pmhappyfeet,
Rick Perry may have put abortion on the special session agenda because he wants to run for President, but that’s not why the Texas Legislature voted overwhelmingly to pass it.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 7/13/2013 @ 2:06 pmMr. Feets – If the pro-bortion demonstrators’ vaginas were guns, then President Obama could ban them.
BAM!!!!!!!
Problem solved.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/13/2013 @ 2:09 pmIf little kids fingers can be guns and they can be arrested for having their fingers at school then why can’t the abortion enthusiats’ vaginas be guns?
And then DPS can arrest them for bringing their vaginas into the state capitol building.
Steve57 (7c82fc) — 7/13/2013 @ 2:27 pmi am cynical and nihilistic so I have a different viewpoint sometimes than the group
happyfeet (8ce051) — 7/13/2013 @ 4:21 pm