Santa Monica Shooter: John Zawahri
The shooter at Santa Monica College yesterday who killed five people has been identified as John Zawahri:
The suspect in the shootings has been identified as John Zawahri, sources told CNN.
Authorities say he killed his father, Samir “Sam” Zawahri, and brother, Chris Zawahri, in a Santa Monica house before carjacking a woman and firing at a public bus on Friday.
An image of him entering the library:
So far they are portraying him as angry over family issues.
Family issues, huh? Yeah, those family issues’ll make you shoot the place up.
Pious Agnostic (20c167) — 6/9/2013 @ 4:42 pmwhat is this twit babbling about? This does not shatter our nation’s confidence you goofball.
Get a grip, freak.
happyfeet (8ce051) — 6/9/2013 @ 4:42 pmSamir “Sam” Zawahri
oh I get it “Sam” must be short for Samir
it’s like a nickname!
it’s like Patrick “Pat” Frey or Edward “Ed” Snowden
it’s good the CNN propaganda slut clarifies that the second syllable is optional otherwise we’d all be like hmmm I wonder if he ever went by just “Sam” or if maybe that was a pet peeve of his and he was a real stickler about being called “Samhir”
but clearly you can call him “Sam” if you want
posthumously of course, him being dead and all
happyfeet (8ce051) — 6/9/2013 @ 4:56 pm*Samir* i mean
i accidentally misspelled it the second time
happyfeet (8ce051) — 6/9/2013 @ 4:57 pmI’ll call him Satan bait.
Icy (0884e8) — 6/9/2013 @ 4:57 pmI guess we’ll find out if family issues are related to his family acting like infidels or not.
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 6/9/2013 @ 5:21 pmIt certainly may not be, but not wait for the MSM to tell us.
Happyfeet-
As per Steve Sailer’s posters seems the family is in fact Lebanese Christian. Muslim Arabs do not adopt nor name their children Western first names, and no Muslim is naming their son Chris.It’s quite common among Arab Christians. Sometimes crazy is simply crazy.
Bugg (b32862) — 6/9/2013 @ 5:22 pmBugg is correct. But while Arab and Middle Eastern Christians may adopt Western names they don’t always adopt Western customs. For instance I’ve known some Egyptian Copts in the US who are more strict about things such as segregating the sexes Iraqi and Syrian Muslims. I recall one Coptic Christian girl who was so afraid of what her mom would do to her if she knew she had been alone with a guy she wouldn’t even let one us driver her home after she was clearly injured in a bad accident on her way to school.
We called her dad and he was ok with it. He was only concerned about her welfare. Her mom sounded like a real terror. Mom made her daughter wait hand and foot on her father and brother. Mom only allowed her to go to school if she cooked and cleaned for them before they left the house, and wouldn’t let her do her homework until she finished her servant chores late at night.
It’s a survival thing. If you aren’t Muslim but live in a Muslim society, especially one that is on the Sharia law end of the scale, then you have to obey the Sharia code as well. Just look at how the Salafis are persecuting the Copts in Egypt now that the Muslim Brotherhood has taken over. Christian girls are being raped, kidnapped, and forcibly converted as it is. Imagine how much worse it would be if they defied the dress code or mingled with the guys in public.
So I wouldn’t be too quick to dismiss the idea that the “family problems” have nothing to do with Islamic notions of “family honor” no matter what their religion might be.
Yazidis aren’t Muslims, but there was a YouTube video of a group of Yazidi men in Iraq doing an honor killing because a Yazidi girl dishonored the whole village.
Steve57 (7895a0) — 6/9/2013 @ 5:40 pm*For instance I’ve known some Egyptian Copts in the US who are more strict about things such as segregating the sexes than Iraqi and Syrian Muslims.*
Steve57 (7895a0) — 6/9/2013 @ 5:42 pmmostly i just think it’s funny how the CNN propaganda slut goes out of his or her way to americanize “Samir”
always gotta put a little spin on the ball
happyfeet (8ce051) — 6/9/2013 @ 5:44 pmI heard earlier reports that he had shaved his head and grown a beard.
But yes, I agree that a lot of ME people are highly excitable and angry. I knew some Copts that were high strung, to say the least.
I keep thinking of the Saudi boy whose accident killed five people a week ago in Newport Beach. Jihad, or just plain crazy?
Patricia (be0117) — 6/9/2013 @ 5:58 pmJust a bad driver I guess;
http://www.the-two-malcontents.com/2013/05/saudi-arabian-teen-driver-in-fatal-newport-beach-wreck-was-unlicensed/
narciso (3fec35) — 6/9/2013 @ 6:10 pmHow did the state let a known crazy person get this arsenal? New laws won’t help if old laws aren’t enforced.
Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 6/9/2013 @ 6:39 pmIt’s a good thing he wasn’t shouting “Allahu Akbar”, or they would have had to describe the incident as “work place violence”.
askeptic (2bb434) — 6/9/2013 @ 6:47 pmAR 15’s have been banned in California since the shooter was born (with the exception of highly modified ones that the AR in the photo does not appear to be), high capacity magazines seen in the photo banned since the shooter was eleven and all private transfers of firearms without a background check and waiting period since the shooter was two. And the shooter had mental issues that are part of California background checks.
So this shooting clearly did not happen.
SPQR (768505) — 6/9/2013 @ 7:37 pmlooking at the pictures looks like he had a ar15 style rifle and a black powder revolver wierd mix
rick carter (24f7f5) — 6/9/2013 @ 7:48 pmIt seems to me that if a person is angry about what their parents did to them (and many children have cause) the answer is not to shoot up a school.
Former Conservative (754c76) — 6/9/2013 @ 8:05 pmWhat is that old pistol? A Colt navy .44?
If so, it was a wicked gun for it’s day and I’m sure it still does the trick. But it isn’t what I would have anticipated. Possibly his father was a collector and it’s his handgun or something like that.
Former Conservative (754c76) — 6/9/2013 @ 8:07 pmAR 15′s have been banned in California since the shooter was born (with the exception of highly modified ones that the AR in the photo does not appear to be), high capacity magazines seen in the photo banned since the shooter was eleven and all private transfers of firearms without a background check and waiting period since the shooter was two. And the shooter had mental issues that are part of California background checks.
Aw, we’ll just find a way to blame it on Arizona or Texas.
JVW (23867e) — 6/9/2013 @ 8:11 pm“Cheap” Italian replica of 1858 Remington Army.
nk (875f57) — 6/9/2013 @ 8:42 pmAh, good to know, nk. Thanks.
Former Conservative (754c76) — 6/9/2013 @ 8:50 pmI read that he had a .44 magnum. Ruger makes a .44 magnum that looks like an old black powder revolver.
Tom Hynes (a2e520) — 6/9/2013 @ 9:06 pmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruger_Blackhawk
The Blackhawk does not look like a black powder revolver.
SPQR (768505) — 6/9/2013 @ 9:25 pmThat revolver looks like something out of “Deadwood”.
Bugg (b32862) — 6/9/2013 @ 9:34 pmIn fact, its pretty clearly a replica of a Remington 1858 cap and ball black powder revolver.
SPQR (768505) — 6/9/2013 @ 9:37 pmYup, one of the lower end ones. Brass triggerguard, no casehardening on the frame. Probably Armi San Marco or Pietta.
Ruger makes a blackpowder revolver, the Ruger Old Army, that has a solid frame making it look a little like the Remington but easy to distinguish.
1858 Remingtons would have been around in old Deadwood, either in the original cap and ball or in cartridge conversions. Lots left over from the Civil War.
nk (875f57) — 6/9/2013 @ 9:53 pmSo this shooting clearly did not happen.
At least he wasn’t violating the ban on concealed weapons.
Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 6/9/2013 @ 11:49 pmI googled “Santa Monica Shooter identidy” and saw this site.
Joshua (f75714) — 6/10/2013 @ 3:48 amI wish that all of you Amricans would direct your time and divert your great expertise in weaponry to learn about Moslems and Arabs.
Islam is NOT a religion! It is and ideology. It strives to take over the world, kill all of you infidels (Christians and Jews) and implement their law.
You in the US by ignoring this threat and pussey-footing around, refusing to call a spade a spade will “politically correct” yourselves to the destruction of your country.
Looks like the Moslem /Arab peretrated terror acts in the last decade have taught you nothing.
ARs haven’t actually been banned in Kali for a while. I recall a judge ruling a while back that Kali couldn’t ban models by name. A drawback for the gun banners that want to ban “assault weapons” but can’t tell you what qualities define an assault weapon. Just what guns they want to call assault weapons.
So that began the surge of “featureless” AR-15s. Manufacturers got around the ban by simply eliminating the features that Kali claimed made a regular semi-auto an assault weapon. Since those features aren’t really essential, it’s pretty easy to make an AR that isn’t an assault weapon under Kali law.
Yes, it does. It doesn’t look like a cap & ball revolver, but it does look somewhat like a P model Colt. It was designed to. And that still was a black powder revolver. It just used fixed ammunition.
Steve57 (7895a0) — 6/10/2013 @ 4:59 amSteve57, the pistol in the photos does not resemble a Ruger Blackhawk .
SPQR (768505) — 6/10/2013 @ 6:23 amAfter the Yazidis murdered–and taped and broadcast–the girl who wanted to marry a Sunni, the Sunnis did a two-truck market bombing in a Yazidi town. Killed, iirc, about 700. Had a relation who was in the US unit first on scene. Knee-deep in parts.
Richard Aubrey (6c93a4) — 6/10/2013 @ 6:46 amHeard from a Christian missionary in the Holy Land who said his congregation figured Yasser Arafat was a Zionist tool. It’s probably only partly the religion. Probably a lot is the water. Or something.
True enough, SPQR. I wasn’t talking about the cap & ball revolver in the photo. A Ruger Blackhawk looks nothing like the revolver the gunman was carrying. I was just responding to your statement that “The Blackhawk does not look like a black powder revolver.”
True, the Blackhawk does not look like that black powder revolver. But it does look like A black powder revolver, Just not that one. The Colt 1873 was originally a black powder revolver, and Ruger designed the Blackhawk to look similar enough to the Colt to cash in on the TV cowboy craze of the ’50s.
Nitpicky, I know. But before I commented I was reviewing some financial statements and I’m losing my *** on an investment I thought I couldn’t lose on. So forgive me if I’m especially prickly this morning.
So much for the friggin’ recovery. I’m seriously considering selling everything and buying a sailboat so I can go port to port in the Caribbean and take whatever odd job I can find.
Ironic, isn’t it? Obama wants to bring illegals “out of the shadows” so badly here that I want to go live in the shadows somewhere else.
Steve57 (7895a0) — 6/10/2013 @ 6:55 amI’m pretty close to selling everything as well, Steve57, after looking at how my investments and real estate is going.
SPQR (768505) — 6/10/2013 @ 7:07 amReports circulating the shooter was angry about his parents getting divorced.
ropelight (b41bef) — 6/10/2013 @ 8:22 amnarciso, the saudi kid was turned down for a license because Homeland Security denied him clearance. More than once.
http://www.startribune.com/nation/210444711.html
Patricia (be0117) — 6/10/2013 @ 8:28 amComment by Pious Agnostic (20c167) — 6/9/2013 @ 4:42 pm
Family issues, huh? Yeah, those family issues’ll make you shoot the place up.
Obviously, this refers to the initial murder(s)
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 6/10/2013 @ 9:33 am17. Comment by Former Conservative (754c76) — 6/9/2013 @ 8:05 pm
It seems to me that if a person is angry about what their parents did to them (and many children have cause) the answer is not to shoot up a school.
It’s not like that. People who go on rampage killings often have killed someone they had arguments with – then, after that, reflecting that at best they go to jail for life, some decide that all other killings are now “free” and they go on to kill or try to kill, other people.
That was true also for Adam Lanza, who killed the chiuldren in Newton, Connecticut.
It probably wasn’t so much that he killed his mother in order to get the guns, or at least steal the guns withouyt raising an alarm, as that he killed his mother first (because she was going to force him to leave home, or worse, and the prospect of what she had planned for him, which might have been confining him, was inconceivable to him) and then realized his life was over (he couldn’t cover it up)
But one thing he could still do was go on to kill more people, and all the other killings would be “free” so he went to his old school, where he hated the other children, some of whom bullied him, and set out to kill a subseqwuent generation of children.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 6/10/2013 @ 9:35 amThis happens all the time.
I think at lesast half the time rampage killings are preceded by a more personal killing.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 6/10/2013 @ 9:36 amI agree with Sammy. Killing is easy, it’s not killing which has to be conditioned in people.
nk (875f57) — 6/10/2013 @ 9:38 amAnd then there’s Dan White, a member of the San Francisco Board of Supervisers in 1978.
On a kind of impulse, he resigned from the Board of Supervisers, and then thought better of it. He asked and then implored the Mayor of San Francisco, who had the power to make temporary appointments, to reappoint him back to his old seat, and when he refsued, he took his guin and he killed him.
Omce having killed the mayor, he went to the office of Harvey Milk, the first homosexual member, whom he didn’t approve of, and killed him too.
But he never would have killed Harvey Milk all by himself.
Dianne Feinstein became mayor.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 6/10/2013 @ 9:40 amI don’t think killing is so easy, but sometimes it’s only the prospect of consequences which hold people back. I don’t killing needs that much of a reason, per se.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 6/10/2013 @ 9:42 amSammy, that’s what happens when a person eats too many Twinkies. Or whatever.
Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 6/10/2013 @ 9:46 am#38 Sammy
The first such mass shooting I remember, Charles Whitman at the Univ. of Texas in 1966, follows this pattern. The Wikipedia article says that he killed his wife and his mother prior to the shootings from the tower.
JoeH (942134) — 6/10/2013 @ 10:09 amComments about a “Black Powder Revolver”:
This just proves the need to be as specific as possible when talking about firearms.
Sort of like the old saw that “All revolvers are pistols, but not all pistols are revolvers” when speaking about handguns (specificity).
Also, the Ruger New Model Old Army is not considered by the ATF to be an “old” revolver, and must be transferred the same as any current fixed-ammo pistol, unlike the 1858 Remington replicas available from the various Italian gun-makers.
askeptic (b8ab92) — 6/10/2013 @ 11:17 am#43 JoeH
Charles Whitman had a brain tumor and was a speed freak (Dexedrine, aka d-amphetamine). Pretty scary combination.
crosspatch (49bf90) — 6/10/2013 @ 1:08 pmGosh, didn’t he know that SMC is a “Gun-Free Zone”? If only he’d noticed the signs during his murderous rampage, I’m sure he would have gone directly to the closest LAPD SWAT depot, meeting rather than a bunch of guaranteed-to-be-defenseless students. In fact, if only someone had told him the library was a “quiet zone” I’m sure he wouldn’t have discharged his noisy weapons.
Captain Obvious (c62713) — 6/11/2013 @ 4:04 pmRAND corporation
Tea (0b02c0) — 6/12/2013 @ 7:32 am