5/10/2013

11 Responses to “Khloe Kardashian and Lamar Odom SWATted”

1. When the cops receive these phony 911 calls, what are they seeing on the caller id? On a regular call, internet callers show up with an obvious tell, like all 9’s or something. Of course 911 is a different system, but can they tell that the originating number is not a normal phone?

   If so, then why are they not moderating their response to those kind of calls?

   Anon Y. Mous (8ec442) — 5/10/2013 @ 11:56 pm

   
   

2. Does SWATting Khloe Kardashian and Lamar Odom qualify as a celebrity SWATting?

   Because I’ve vaguely heard of Khloe. She’s one of the prebubescent Kardashian sisters I’ve vaguely felt sorry for since I first heard of “Keeping up with the Kardashians.”

   Eventually “momanger” will market her sex tape. Which I guess qualifies the poor girl as a celebrity, eventually.

   But who the he** is this Lamar Odom dude? And how long will I have to see the breathless reporting in “People” that these two just might not stay together? Two, three weeks max as I’m checking out with my groceries?

   Steve57 (9b1cdb) — 5/11/2013 @ 12:55 am

   
   

3. Truly a “Who’s Who” list of teh “What’s Happening Now”…

   Colonel Haiku (dba62e) — 5/11/2013 @ 4:19 am

   
   

4. You forgot about the “John Doe” victim in the Des Moines, Iowa swatting from Thursday night.

   Russ from Winterset (6354df) — 5/11/2013 @ 5:32 am

   
   

5. “It’s all fun and games until someone loses an eye”

   Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 5/11/2013 @ 7:59 am

   
   

6. If the cops found a kilo of medicinal herb, a CA non qualified AR-15 and some Skittles at Lamar’s house, would they go full Nakoula?
   Or just take the gun, eat the Skittles and leave the weed?

   SteveG (794291) — 5/11/2013 @ 9:41 am

   
   

7. The police usually see that the SWAT call is coming in from a VOIP (Voice Over Internet Protocol) card. (There are other methods as well, like abusing the type-to-speak systems for the deaf and disabled.)

   Amongst the problems is that of course, zillions of people use VOIP for legal inexpensive calls. Police do know that a call coming in is coming in over VOIP but lots of people (and companies especially) have VOIP setups.

   But you can program a VOIP system, of which there are many, to give false information in that portion of the data packet it sends that identifies its location. There are publicly available programs to do so on hacker sites with instruction manuals so it doesn’t take scads of skill Anyone with basic computer knowledge and a few hours could figure out how to do it.

   It can be tracked back, but it requires motivation to do so. It requires a human to file papers with a judge, get permission to search back through several computer systems owned by private companies, get responses back from the tech guys at those companies, and put it all together.

   With the risk that at the other side of it all will be a juvenile who will get a slap on the wrist at best for all this waste of time.

   Reworking the system to make this easy to spot and track? That takes time and a project and requires you to impose action on several private companies. And it costs money. Who’s going to pay? The techie guys have paying work to do.

   Right now, it’s cheaper to send out the cops than to do all that work. Because no one famous has died yet.

   (Please correct me if anything above is incorrect, it’s what I’ve gleaned through all of this.)

   luagha (1de9ec) — 5/11/2013 @ 9:50 am

   
   

8. With the exception of Eastwood and Magic, your celebrity company is pretty crappy. It reads like a WH birthday party guest list

   SteveG (794291) — 5/11/2013 @ 9:57 am

   
   

9. You forgot about the “John Doe” victim in the Des Moines, Iowa swatting from Thursday night.

   Comment by Russ from Winterset (6354df) — 5/11/2013 @ 5:32 am

   Not really. Until a name is revealed so we can figure out what that person did to piss off Neal Rauhauser, it doesn’t make much sense to include it. I say it’s a partial list. Since I was SWATted I have read easily 10 stories about random SWATtings I never posted about.

   Patterico (90470c) — 5/11/2013 @ 10:23 am

   
   

10. OK, but if they are faking the number, how are they getting the right number in the first place? I’m guessing that probably not one of the celebrities have their home numbers listed. I would guess that even Patterico is unlisted. If that is so, how did they come up with his true number to spoof?

    Anon Y. Mous (8ec442) — 5/11/2013 @ 11:18 am

    
    

11. Anon Y. Mous:

    Even pre-teens can launch these attacks. Earlier this year, a 12-year-old was sentenced to two years in juvenile detention after he admitted to swatting Ashton Kutcher and Justin Bieber’s homes last October.

    Operators of 911 services have no way to identify instances of caller ID spoofing.

    “You could call it a hole in the system,” said Lee Moore, the principal of 911 Consult, which works with law enforcement to implement their 911 systems. “We go with the phone number information that we receive, and check the location of that number. There’s no inherent system to allow us to look at a 10-digit number and know that it is indeed what it says it is.”

    A second swatting method sidesteps the traditional phone system altogether. Some swatters use a teletypewriter (TTY) relay — a phone system created for people who are deaf — to place 911 calls.

    Here’s how TTY works: The caller dials a relay service, and types messages on a TTY machine. An operator calls the other party and acts as an intermediary, speaking the typed messages to the hearing person, and typing the spoken messages to the TTY user.

    The TTY system is appealing to swatters because the Federal Communications Commission requires relay services to keep TTY calls, and callers, confidential. Even if relay operators believe a 911 call may be a hoax, they’re generally prohibited from intervening — calls must be relayed verbatim.

    Source: CNN.com

    DRJ (a83b8b) — 5/11/2013 @ 11:25 am