FBI Was Warned “Repeatedly” About Tsarnaev
Russian authorities contacted the US government with concerns about Tamerlan Tsarnaev not once but “multiple’’ times, including an alert it sent after he was first investigated by FBI agents in Boston, raising new questions about whether the FBI should have paid more attention to the suspected Boston Marathon bomber, US senators briefed on the investigation said Tuesday.
The FBI has previously said it interviewed Tsarnaev in early 2011 after it was initially contacted by the Russians. In their review, completed in summer 2011, the bureau found no evidence that Tsarnaev was a threat. “The FBI requested but did not receive more specific or additional information from” Russia, the agency said last week.
Following a closed briefing of the Senate Intelligence Committee Tuesday, Senator Richard Burr, a North Carolina Republican, said he believed that Russia alerted the United States about Tsarnaev in “multiple contacts,” including at least once since October 2011.
So was he on a watch list or not? Reports seem to vary widely.
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Most transparent administration in history, eh???
Truth be told, more cover ups than the Nixon Administration.
PCD (1d8b6d) — 4/24/2013 @ 7:51 amKind of like how they were warned REPEATEDLY about Benghazi.
JD (b63a52) — 4/24/2013 @ 7:55 amSo was he on a watch list or not? Reports seem to vary widely.
They probably had him confused with another Tamerlan Tsarnaev.
Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 4/24/2013 @ 7:55 amI think there is a ton more to come out about things in high places in the US government that we would have found hard to believe.
Still to be understood is the story of the Saudi national who was in the hospital and later said “not to be a person of interest” even though they spent hours invstigating the guys home and interviewing his roommates.
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 4/24/2013 @ 7:56 amApparently Beck has hard evidence documentation of initial labelling the guy a terrorist danger that was then amended and then tried to be erased- but it all left an electronic and hard copy trail that some in the midst of the actions (but not in on the cover-up) have divulged.
Catching Nepolotano (sp?) in lies, and baiting her to try to cover up so he can present more facts and show her self-contradiction yet again. Includes lying under oath to Congress.
If not posted yet, will be soon.
http://www.theblaze.com/
2.Kind of like how they were warned REPEATEDLY about Benghazi.
Comment by JD (b63a52) — 4/24/2013 @ 7:55 am
Apparently the House committee report came out yesterday that was quite harsh, including stating what things we still don’t know.
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 4/24/2013 @ 7:58 amAnd The Beat Goes On ON ON ON….
mg (31009b) — 4/24/2013 @ 8:05 amNow up:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/24/armed-and-dangerous-becks-latest-revelations-on-saudi-national-once-considered-person-of-interest-in-boston-bombings/
Includes a photo of a copy of the cover page of a document mentioned, which includes the names of two agents involved in the original questioning of the Saudi
Apparently some brave people are willing to risk their careers if not their lives to get the truth out.
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 4/24/2013 @ 8:13 amWhile it doesn’t make the FBI look good, let’s actually think of what would have had to happen for the bombing to not have taken place… and then see if we’d like such an environment.
Given that there are LOTS of alerts, even multiple alerts, the FBI needs a lot more agents if it’s going to follow up on every lead. Are we willing to pay the money? And are we willing to put up with an environment in which mostly innocent people are put under surveillance, just in case they’re the one in a million who’s set on committing a crime?
Even if the FBI followed up in this case, what were they to do? There were no fellow conspirators for the FBI to turn into informers. Do we want the FBI to be following these guys on a 24 hour basis, just in case they do something that could be acted upon?
Even if the FBI paid them a visit, are we to believe that these guys would have just given up on their quest? And how would we react to our getting a visit from the FBI, in the absence of any legitimate evidence that we’re about to commit a crime?
What was it that would have justified the FBI arresting them prior to their leaving their apartment? Buying a pressure cooker? Buying black powder? Absent credible evidence of a plot (i.e., informer), what distinguished these guys from a whole lot of other people that would have justified the extensive surveillance? Should gun owners be put under surveillance, just to make sure none of them start shooting up a school?
Like with the 9/11 attackers, there wasn’t a lot – until they pulled out the box cutters – that would have given the FBI grounds to arrest them. Even if the FBI had been following these guys, on what grounds would the FBI have been justified in grabbing them and searching their backpacks? Aren’t conservatives supposed to be opposed to citizens being grabbed on the streets and forced to empty their pockets?
As bad as this is, it MAY be one of those times where there isn’t anything a free society really can do to keep it from happening.
steve (369bc6) — 4/24/2013 @ 8:19 amsteve, I think that even if the government was being 100% honest there is no way they can say what connections “don’t exist”,
and unfortunately, these are the same people that call Hasan’s attack an act of workplace violence.
If they can’t do something honest as simple as saying Hasan’s act was terrorism, I don’t trust them to tell me the sun will rise tomorrow.
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 4/24/2013 @ 8:23 amEven if the FBI had been following these guys, on what grounds would the FBI have been justified in grabbing them and searching their backpacks?
I thought they would have had plenty had the FBI and CIA been talking with each other and had they looked at the contents of a computer they had in posession.
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 4/24/2013 @ 8:25 am10, oh, the wall Gorelick put between the FBI and CIA to prevent communication which prevented us stopping the Blind Sheik’s attack on the Twin Towers, and Obama more successful attack.
PCD (1d8b6d) — 4/24/2013 @ 8:36 amThere were even problems within the FBI, Ken Williams Phoenix Memo, didn’t make it up the chain, to be included into the PDB, the ones who blocked it, like Bowman, got promoted,
narciso (3fec35) — 4/24/2013 @ 8:39 amWhat do those “Richard Craniums” at FSB know?
askeptic (b8ab92) — 4/24/2013 @ 8:43 amWe’re the FBI!
“As bad as this is, it MAY be one of those times where there isn’t anything a free society really can do to keep it from happening.”
Sorry Steve but even a free society does not have to allow entrance to people belonging to a group who has declared war on it. That’s just stupid. And a free society does not have to provide welfare for immigrants nor does it have to do the same for persons of that warring group. That too would be stupid. Our so called free society actually paid these guys to live while they plotted to murder Americans. How much dumber can we get? I guess we could hand out Obamaphones to moslems for remotes. Hell, they won’t even call them what they are: moslem terrorists.
Hoagie (3259ab) — 4/24/2013 @ 8:45 amsteve, even a Supreme Court Justice remarked that the Constitution is not a suicide pact (and NO, he wasn’t appointed by Nixon, Reagan, or a Bush).
askeptic (b8ab92) — 4/24/2013 @ 8:50 amI can see some of Steve’s argument. However, if we have another nation warning us about someone, the claim that this guy was “self-Jihadized” is pretty ridiculous, no?
SPQR (52f1d2) — 4/24/2013 @ 8:59 amProfile, Steve, Profile.
mg (31009b) — 4/24/2013 @ 9:06 amI have to agree with MD, and somewhat with Steve, that there is a real problem in the FBI and CIA. But it’s not the agents.
All bureaucracies are the same in the sense that the Top Men, as Ace calls them, completely run the place, and they are political. Even if they are civil service, they answer to political appointees, and we all know the political stance of this regime.
How about some criminal attorneys here suggest a scenario whereby you can arrest someone before they attack, or follow them, at least–in effect, put them on notice.
Nakoula Nakoula is still languishing in jail. Why weren’t these guys?
Patricia (be0117) — 4/24/2013 @ 9:15 amIf we arrested everyone who detested some facet of our govt or way of life or the way things are going – the proverbial slippery slope would be replaced by Niagra Falls
Also putting people on notice would not have prevented 9/11, Oklahoma city, Brett Kimberlin, The Weatherman, Eric Rudolf, or these two murdering scum
E.PWJ (c3dbb4) — 4/24/2013 @ 9:23 amHow about some criminal attorneys here suggest a scenario whereby you can arrest someone before they attack, or follow them, at least–in effect, put them on notice.
MINORITY REPORT, anyone?
And, what was that old LAPD unit that tracked, and killed, violent criminals by letting them commit a crime and just shooting them on the way out of the crime scene?
askeptic (b8ab92) — 4/24/2013 @ 9:28 amHoagie @ 14:
Name this “warring group”, Hoagie!
You might also define for us what your concept of a free society is.
We don’t have a free society if we do as you say, ban a legal immigrant just because you don’t like their religion. How do we decide which religions to ban?
Finally, I note that you have no problem with hindsighting then blaming.
All Muslims are not terrorists, just as all Christians are not murderers.
Perry (d7a158) — 4/24/2013 @ 9:30 amaskeptic, LAPD SIS. My favorite bit was when a M1911 clone manufacturer put out a .45 ACP pistol labeled “SIS”.
As for when can you arrest someone before they attack, that’s easy. When you have probably cause of the conspiracy itself and all the elements of the conspiracy have been met, including the overt act. Now actually putting together enough evidence to prove the conspiracy is going to take some doing, and its resource intensive, but its been done.
SPQR (52f1d2) — 4/24/2013 @ 9:40 amHow about some criminal attorneys here suggest a scenario whereby you can arrest someone before they attack, or follow them, at least–in effect, put them on notice.
In Illinois, the FBI does that routinely with our governors. It doesn’t work. They still go on to commit the crime and end in jail.
nk (875f57) — 4/24/2013 @ 9:45 amnk, wouldn’t it just be easier to swear them into office within the confines of the nearest Federal Detention Facility?
askeptic (b8ab92) — 4/24/2013 @ 9:51 amTrue story. The FBI had Sam Giancana under around the clock surveillance wherever he went. He sued them and won, kind of. The judge limited the number of agents who could follow him (eight comes to mind). If Sam had time to think before Anthony Spilotro put a bullet in his brain at his own home, he might have reconsidered his lawsuit and wished for some more FBI agents to have been around.
nk (875f57) — 4/24/2013 @ 9:53 amOr get the Federal Bureau of Prisons to take over the governor’s mansion.
nk (875f57) — 4/24/2013 @ 9:55 amOh, and there’s this:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/04/breaking-saudi-student-alharbi-visited-the-white-house-several-times-since-2009/
Saxby Chambliss says one the the security arms had warning of a Marathon attack but fumbled the handoff.
At this point, with three Americans dead, what possible difference could it make?
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 4/24/2013 @ 10:05 amActually, gary, isn’t that four dead in Boston – three in the bombing, and the MIT campus cop?
askeptic (b8ab92) — 4/24/2013 @ 10:17 amComment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 4/24/2013 @ 10:05 am
So…not only does this “Saudi national” get labelled as a high risk terrorist by some high level field agents, and then becomes merely a person of interest, and then becomes not even that but an innocent bystander and then not only gets a visit from the First Lady (maybe she visited other injured people at the hospital??),
but this “college kid who just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time- should have been at school- had been a visitor on multiple occasions to the WH????”
Makes me a little bit (but only a little bit) tempted to follow P’s example with vulgar language.
There is no way I can figure out a song to this to the tune of “Ohio”, maybe Neil Young will revisit it himself.
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 4/24/2013 @ 10:30 amSteve got it right:
Gun owners would certainly protest, but that’s probably what many of our friends on the left think ought to happen.
We can have a (mostly) free society, and, as such, we will be at some risk for attacks like these. It’s also true that there were a lot more people killed and maimed on our highways on the 15th than were killed in the Boston bombing, and only their families and friends cared.
Or, we could have a society in which the chances of such attacks were reduced to practically zero; there were no known (non-governmental) terrorist attacks during Josef Stalin’s regime!
People wonder why no one saw and reported the Tsarnaevs, who made plenty of comments which indicated their states of mind, but it would have taken a mentality like that of Fidel Castro’s Comités de Defensa de la Revolución, spying on all of your neighbors and reporting every detail, to have done anything to have stopped the Tsarnaevs — or perhaps someone like Adam Lanza. I don’t think that we want that here.
The very realistic Dana (3e4784) — 4/24/2013 @ 10:34 amThe point is NOBODY KNEW that they were plotting to kill Americans. NOBODY gave entrance to someone who was known to have DECLARED war on the United States. Nobody was giving welfare to someone who was KNOWN to be plotting an attack. ALL of this came to light after the attack.
It’s real easy AFTER the fact to say that this or that should have happened. My argument is that it is darn near impossible to detect these solo attacks ahead of time… and that very few people would want to live in a society which took the steps necessary to do so.
Do you want to be put under surveillance because someone who doesn’t like you reported you anonymously to the FBI? Do you want the FBI seizing and reading everything on your computer just to cover their rear end?
There has to be a threshold below which there’s no real justification for initiating interdiction. And my post is that it is likely that point was never reached in this case.
The same holds for preventing attacks such as Sandy Hook. Is the FBI supposed to follow every person thought of as ‘a little weird’? Are they supposed to search their houses just to see if they have guns that may be used in an attack if in fact they were planning an attack? How many people have to say you’re crazy before the police get to take your guns away? Are we supposed to kick off welfare any family whose kid draws a picture of a gun while at school just so Hoagie doesn’t get to complain about paying welfare to kids who shoot up schools?
During the gun debate, the lunatics were the liberals who cried out to do something, anything, just to show we care, or who indicted an entire group of people because of the actions of a single person. The voices of sanity were from conservatives who realized there was precious little that really could be done to prevent the deranged loner from going postal. It’s a shame the conservatives don’t see the parallels in this case.
steve (369bc6) — 4/24/2013 @ 10:48 am“Steve got it right:
What was it that would have justified the FBI arresting them prior to their leaving their apartment?”
The very realistic Dana – I disagree. steve makes his usual multiple leaps of logic based on evidence not in evidence. First, nobody mentioned arrest as a criteria. Second, nobody has determined at this point there were no co-conspirators. Third, monitoring of email, twitter, Facebook, credit card purchases, etc., is a huge step below physical surveillance in terms of resource requirements and the only explanation I have seen for not doing this is Napolitano’s or somebody else’s that the passage of time caused Tamerlan to fall off their list when he returned to the U.S.
Basically steve is blowing smoke based on unfounded assumptions not in evidence.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 4/24/2013 @ 11:10 amWhen we think about the FBI try to recall that Mark Felt, the #2 guy in the FBI, was behind the Nixon Coup in 1972. He knew all the stuff that Nixon did that was concerned with the Watergate coverup because the FBI had had the president of the US under surveillance for years. J Edgar had Martin Luther King under surveillance and used to entertain LBJ with stories about his sexual adventures.
My daughter is an agent but I don’t trust them for a moment.
Mike K (dc6ffe) — 4/24/2013 @ 11:23 amWhat I don’t understand is why his trip to Dagestan/Chechnya didn’t reset that timer.
Rob Crawford (04f50f) — 4/24/2013 @ 11:36 am“What I don’t understand is why his trip to Dagestan/Chechnya didn’t reset that timer.”
Rob Crawford – No sh_t. That’s why the explanations sounds like a bunch of bureaucratic butt covering BS.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 4/24/2013 @ 11:42 amFelt was running the anti Weatherman unit, of the bureau, ironically the Watergate events, led to his
narciso (3fec35) — 4/24/2013 @ 11:48 ambeing charged for those, and almost ending up in jail.
If the US State Department refused to list the violent Islamist extremists in Chechnya and Dagestan as “terrorists” like they tried to protect the State Department after the Benghazi attack last year by downplaying radical Islamic activity in the area and radical Islamist involvement in the attack, did they effectively tie the FBI’s hands in investigating Tamerlan?
After all, if the groups he linked to on the internet and visited overseas were not legally considered terrorists because of our freaking politically correct don’t want to offend anybody administration, what was there to investigate?
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 4/24/2013 @ 12:31 pmComment by Mike K (dc6ffe) — 4/24/2013 @ 11:23 am
From what I have heard/read, Felt did it purely because he was snubbed by Nixon for promotion. Few if any honorable motives among the whole bunch that caused Nixon’s downfall.
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 4/24/2013 @ 12:32 pmNot that I’m defending Nixon, I’m just saying it was more a case of profiles in envy and cowardice than courage.
Even as far as the reporters, if Woodward and Bernstein had inside tips of Kennedy’s misbehavior in office and dependence on narcotics, etc., would they have made a name for themselves on it or kept quiet? IDK
Well we discover from Max Holland’s inquiry in ATPM at the Beast, that many of the things, we ‘know’ about Watergate, are at best incomplete accounts,
narciso (3fec35) — 4/24/2013 @ 12:37 pmat worst out right fabrication,
Before this, they were saying, the FBI asked the Russians repeatedly for more information, after they were given some vague, ominous sounding information, but never got even the courtesy of a reply from the Russians.
The New York Times reported today
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/24/us/politics/senators-say-case-indicates-that-problems-persist-in-agencies-data-sharing.html
that Janet Napolitanio said that in spite of a “mismatch” in the spelling of his name on his airline ticket, his travel document and the passenger manifest of his flight his name was nevertheless pinged when he left the country on January 12, 2012 because of his His flight reservation – if I understand this correctly. Janet Napolitano called this “redundancies”
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 4/24/2013 @ 12:42 pmIslamic Emirate of Caucuses was named a terrorist organization in May 2011, after FBI first looked into Tamerlan according current information.
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2011/05/164312.htm
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 4/24/2013 @ 12:42 pmI was wondering about that daley, do they not double check before ‘removing all doubt’ that was rhetorical.
narciso (3fec35) — 4/24/2013 @ 12:44 pmMy guess — he was, they (TLAs) thought, but they’d spelled his name wrong, so no one else knew. The question is whether the misspelling was intentional.
htom (412a17) — 4/24/2013 @ 12:47 pm38.Before this, they were saying, the FBI asked the Russians repeatedly for more information, after they were given some vague, ominous sounding information, but never got even the courtesy of a reply from the Russians.
Comment by Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 4/24/2013 @ 12:42 pm
Here’s the question, between the FBI under the Holder DOJ and Russia under Putin, who do you trust most to be honest?
It’s an unfortunately difficult question.
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 4/24/2013 @ 12:48 pmHe was pinged in january 2012 because he was on something called the Treasury Enforcement Communications System. But they never told the FBI or the CIA. If they wanted to know
about him, apparently, they had to ask.
When he came back, on July 17, 2012, the system was not pinged because his place on the list had lapsed, since it was more than a year since the FBI had closed his file. It would have been a violation of federal guidelines to continue investigating him without more to go on.
Many Senators and members of the House didn’t like what they heard in two separate hearings or briefings. House members also felt uninformed. Senator Saxby Chambliss (R-Georgia) talked about stone walls and stovepipes that had been reconstructed.
I also read that Tamerlan Tsarnaev is supposed to have travelled to Russia in 2012 on a false RUSSIAN passport. That could account for his
name being misspelled – misspelled so he could pretend it was an error, but it would not trigger any computer alarm. He applied for a new passport
in Russia but never picked it up.
Janet Napolitano said the new immigration proposal in the works would have helped,
because it includes a provision that all passports be electronically readable to avoid errors in flight records (!?)
What would that do about Russian passports??
I think you could argue that if he got an American
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 4/24/2013 @ 12:49 pmpassport, you’d be sure of his identity. But really.
Tamerlan Tsarbaev applied for naturalization in September, 2012. The Department of Homeland Security reviewed a 2009 domestic abuse case and found out he had not been convicted. They also found out that the FBI had interviewed him in January 2011 and had found no derogatory
information. Homeland Security officials, in Mark levin’s words, slow-walked his application for citizenship, leaving it pending to see if new information would emerge.
Her began buying explosives no later than early February this year. He paid cash, at least in one place.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 4/24/2013 @ 12:52 pmSeeing what happened at the Nord Ost theatre, at Beslan, Domedovo airport, why would you take a chance?
narciso (3fec35) — 4/24/2013 @ 12:52 pmComment by MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 4/24/2013 @ 10:30 am
To F/U, FLOTUS did visit wounded people in the Boston hospitals, so that could explain her visit in general with the saudi, but still, for a period of time he was classified as a terrorist or some such.
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 4/24/2013 @ 1:08 pmAs for his visitng the WH, the data is inconclusive if he did, or another person with his name.
Not to worry folks. Somewhere there’s a bureaucrat placing a vet with PTSD who’s no threat to anyone on a no-fly list.
They’re on the case.
Steve57 (da9e0e) — 4/24/2013 @ 1:15 pmWe are in the very best of hands.
askeptic (b8ab92) — 4/24/2013 @ 1:48 pmComment by PCD (1d8b6d) — 4/24/2013 @ 8:36 am
, oh, the wall Gorelick put between the FBI and CIA to prevent communication which prevented us stopping the Blind Sheik’s attack on the Twin Towers, and Obama more successful attack.
Jamie Gorelick’s wall (which said the CIA couldn’t tell the FBI what it knew because it was not admissible evidence in court, and the FBI couldn’t tell the CIA what it knew because of grand jury secrecy etc) came later.
What happened here was that a high ranking FBI agent – I think his name was Carson Dunbar removed an informant because he wouldn’t wear a wire.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 4/24/2013 @ 1:48 pmhttp://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/24/CIA-boston-bomber-watchlist
narciso (3fec35) — 4/24/2013 @ 3:13 pmHat tip from hearing Sean Hannity and also Arutz Sheva news.
Mosque that Boston suspects attended has radical ties Oren Dorell, USA TODAY10:47 a.m. EDT April 24, 2013
Several people who attended the Islamic Society of Boston mosque in Cambridge, Mass., have been investigated for Islamic terrorism, including a conviction of the mosque’s first president, Abdulrahman Alamoudi, in connection with an assassination plot against a Saudi prince.
Its sister mosque in Boston, known as the Islamic Society of Boston Cultural Center, has invited guests who have defended terrorism suspects. A former trustee appears in a series of videos in which he advocates treating gays as criminals, says husbands should sometimes beat their wives and calls on Allah (God) to kill Zionists and Jews, according to Americans for Peace and Tolerance, an interfaith group that has investigated the mosques.
They may teach 9/11 “truth” I would guess, and yet – is it them? – they kicked Tamerlan Tsarnaev out of meetings twice – once around Thanksgiving (first he objected to a sign a store had advertising turkeys and later Tamerlan stood up and challenged a sermon in which the speaker said that, just like “we all celebrate the birthday of the Prophet, we can also celebrate July 4 and Thanksgiving,” ) and once around Martin Luther King Day when an imam compared Martin Luther King to Mohammed.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 4/24/2013 @ 4:30 pmBoth American and Russian police are in Dagestan interviewing the Tsarnaev brothers’ parents – spending a lot more time with the mother than with the father. They finished with the father after only a few hours.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 4/24/2013 @ 4:31 pmThe FBI et al seems to be sticking to the idea they had no help from outside because they didn’t find any indication of that on their cellphones or computers. And Dzhokhar said no, at least as far as they asked him..
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 4/24/2013 @ 4:32 pmLots more really to write – the true cause of the Texas fire: water on certain chemicals, and what gosnell really did – people referred women who wanted late late abortions to him all over the East Coast. he also carried out a bad medical abortion experiment testing a device (to kill babies before emerging) in 1972 that had already failed in Bangladesh in 1971.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 4/24/2013 @ 4:34 pmComment by Rob Crawford (04f50f) — 4/24/2013 @ 11:36 am
What I don’t understand is why his trip to Dagestan/Chechnya didn’t reset that timer.
For one thing, DHS noted he had gone – and maybe told nobody.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 4/24/2013 @ 4:35 pmThere seems to be an inexhaustable supply of stupid:
http://reason.com/blog/2013/04/23/williams-sonoma-concedes-victory-to-terr
SPQR (768505) — 4/24/2013 @ 4:35 pmTamerlan’s uncle says someone slightly older than him in Cambridge, named “Misha” got him into radical Islam.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 4/24/2013 @ 4:37 pmBut wasn’t the pressure cooker bought in Canada? It’s in liters.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 4/24/2013 @ 4:44 pmThank the Lord. Otherwise it would be a lot harder to set up an ambush or pull off some other ruse.
Steve57 (da9e0e) — 4/24/2013 @ 4:48 pmSPQR, that seems to be a doable answer. Maybe they would not get a conviction but they would take the wind out of the sails of nuts like these guys.
I frankly do not believe Big Sis or all the the BSers with their talking points of “pings” and “thousands of people” they have to keep track of.
They dropped the investigation b/c of PC, just like they did with Hasan.
(nk, that was funny!)
Patricia (be0117) — 4/24/2013 @ 5:22 pmUh, if some one enters the US as a refugee from Chechnya because of Russia brutality to the Chechnyans; should ANY visit back to Chechnya set off all sorts of alarms?
Mike Giles (60acee) — 4/24/2013 @ 5:37 pmR.I.P. Allan Arbus, actor that played psychiatrist Dr. Sidney Freedman on M*A*S*H
Icy (f7c579) — 4/24/2013 @ 5:50 pmDagestan, which is the birthplace of Shamil, and has an even more twisted history,
narciso (3fec35) — 4/24/2013 @ 5:50 pmRadio controlled IEDs, glad schools don’t offer shop anymore:
http://www.jammiewf.com/2013/remote-control-for-toy-cars-used-to-detonate-boston-marathon-bombs/
Mumbles Menino says they worked alone, even tho their apartments were clean. So where’s the workshop, the storage, the fireworks stockpile to produce the powder, etc?
Williams & Sonoma cuts and runs, no longer offers their upscale pressure cookers. They’ve had it with shoplifters.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 4/24/2013 @ 9:36 pmSpeed Bump and Gilligan should be made into urinal cakes…
mg (31009b) — 4/25/2013 @ 4:14 amSorry, Ladies.
Yes, this was ‘unexpected’
http://www.seattlepi.com/news/crime/article/Officials-Suspect-described-plot-before-Miranda-4458598.php
narciso (3fec35) — 4/25/2013 @ 5:04 am‘Nevermind;
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/officials-boston-suspect-had-no-firearm-when-barrage-of-bullets-hit-hiding-place/2013/04/24/376fc8a0-ad18-11e2-a8b9-2a63d75b5459_story.html?tid=pm_world_pop
narciso (3fec35) — 4/25/2013 @ 6:03 amIt seems warnings go ‘both ways’
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/feds-further-investigating-role-bombers-wife_719130.html?nopager=1
narciso (3fec35) — 4/25/2013 @ 6:03 pm