SUGAR FOR ALL!!!! Court Strikes Down Bloomberg’s Giant Soda Ban
Big Gulps are still permitted in NYC! All hail the courts!
Of course, the decision simply says the ban was too arbitrary. If he bans more stuff, maybe it will be less arbitrary! Stay tuned . . .
Ding.
Patterico (9c670f) — 3/11/2013 @ 8:27 pmThe Court basically told him he wasn’t totalitarian enough.
JD (b63a52) — 3/11/2013 @ 8:29 pmI vote to ban nanny-state mayors and allow every food establishment to sell however much of whatever food or drink their customers want.
aunursa (7014a8) — 3/11/2013 @ 8:31 pmPermanently overthrown. Whiny little biatch is trying to save face.
Meanwhile early odds for opening vote at Vatican via Newsmax:
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 3/11/2013 @ 8:35 pmPerhaps Mr. Mayor went a Big Gulp too far.
navyvet (02dd07) — 3/11/2013 @ 8:38 pmThe new puffy face in the Senate from KY:
http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/11/in-2010-ashley-judd-accused-apple-customers-of-financing-mass-rape/#ixzz2NGfpwmpJ
Or not.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 3/11/2013 @ 8:46 pmSweet Saint Andreas, hear our prayer:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/03/cbs-news-on-afdi-ads-killing-jews-is-worship-ad-campaign-rolled-out-on-sf-buses.html
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 3/11/2013 @ 9:40 pmashley judd lol
food stamp’s lowered the bar for public office something fierce but girlfriend’s just deluded
happyfeet (8ce051) — 3/11/2013 @ 9:58 pmWell around the time she did that film as a serial killer with Ewan McGregor, should have been a tipoff.
narciso (3fec35) — 3/11/2013 @ 10:05 pmIs anyone besides me getting irked by the fascist two step?
1) Assert you have a right to something like healthcare.
2) Once you get government to provide the service deny it to people who aren’t behaving properly and thus “costing too much.”
Hey! If healthcare is a freakin’ right then it’s a right. You don’t need to do anything to deserve it, like living under Nanny Bloomberg’s or Moochelle’s calorie restrictions. What does it matter if you need the bypass surgery due to your family history or that you stopped by Dunkin’ Donuts three times a day. It’s a right.
Steve57 (60a887) — 3/11/2013 @ 10:09 pmHey Sugar:
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/25/sarah-palin-turns-heads-at-nbc-party-in-beverly-hills/?WT.mc_id=BU-D-E-TAB-AD-VAR-VIDEO-ROS-0512-NA&WT.mc_ev=click
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 3/11/2013 @ 10:11 pmAnd more recently;
http://www.theledger.com/article/20130308/NEWS/130309216
narciso (3fec35) — 3/11/2013 @ 10:21 pmOops, my mistake. That was a hoax. Please remove my post, I’m embarrassed enough now.
Chuck Bartowski (ad7249) — 3/11/2013 @ 10:44 pmit’s believable cause of how krugman is such a mark zandi style whore for hire
happyfeet (8ce051) — 3/11/2013 @ 10:52 pmhe’s intellectually bankrupt, so the story is close enough to true for the Internet.
redc1c4 (403dff) — 3/12/2013 @ 2:18 am13. They are hilarious, tempting to believe, and here’s one I may have to check further.
http://dailycurrant.com/2013/03/04/catholic-church-blasted-lack-jewish-popes/
There’s some site where we can find the internets history regardless. Not much of a sleuth tho, I hate work.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 3/12/2013 @ 2:22 am14. I was going to say those rare Portuguese Portos are like crack. Easy to see going wrong there.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 3/12/2013 @ 2:25 amIt would appear the ball is rolling:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-11/spot-chinas-hot-money-time-bomb
Hang on tight!
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 3/12/2013 @ 3:26 amStep lively:
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Anza-Palm-Desert-Earthquake-196993061.html
Looking at geomagnetic data I’d say not this time.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 3/12/2013 @ 3:34 amLooks like gary gulrud has taken over this thread. Why not get your own blog gary?
On topic, what Mayor Bloomberg did was with good intent. I equate it with the setting of an age limit under which cigarettes and alcohol cannot be legally sold to our youth, therefore hardly the behavior of a tyrant or a “totaltarian”.
This also raises the issue of whether it is appropriate to minimize the availability of junk food in K-12 school vending machines. Considering our obesity problem which often starts in childhood, I favor such limits.
Perry (dc1eab) — 3/12/2013 @ 6:47 amPerry, you are as ignorant of nutrition as tax policy.
SPQR (d58854) — 3/12/2013 @ 6:53 amSeeing as Bloomberg has solved the jobs problem in NYC, wait what?
narciso (3fec35) — 3/12/2013 @ 6:58 ambloomberg is a fascist
poor new yorkers have lost all sense of dignity they’re an incredibly debased people almost palestinian-like in their passive willingness to accept and embrace arbitrary spoon-fed stupidity
happyfeet (8ce051) — 3/12/2013 @ 7:06 amGreetings:
If mayor Mikey wants my Egg Cream, he’ll have to pry it from my cold, dead hand.
11B40 (392137) — 3/12/2013 @ 9:47 amThe decision is surprisingly hard for me to understand.
The judge seems to be saying that the BOH exceeded the powers delegated to it by the city charter.
OK, fair enough. But it also seems to be saying that the *charter* is delegating powers in a way which violates the state constitution – it’s not clear on this, because it claims to be using the four-factor test from Boreali for “analyzing whether an administrative rule may have run afoul of the separation of powers doctrine”, which is vaguer than the specific point that the powers under the charter are exceeded. Furthermore, the opinion seems to be saying that notwithstanding the fact that the most recent charter effectively gives the BOH plenary power over matters of public health, the legislative history of the *preceding* charters makes it clear that the BOH’s writ runs just to communicable disease.
So … the opinion strikes me as being something of a mess. I would expect it to be substantially modified on appeal, if the BOH chooses to appeal it.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/03/12/nyregion/12soda-decision.html?ref=nyregion&_r=0
aphrael (5d993c) — 3/12/2013 @ 10:55 amPerry wrote:
We also hold that we can set those limits because we are setting them to minors, people who have not reached the age at which they can be responsible for themselves. Why such rationale would apply top a 32 year old wanting to buy a Big Gulp escapes me.
What concerns me more is you casual acceptance of this as something well-intended as something for our own good. I’d suggest that both tobacco and alcohol are much worse for you than extra weight, so if we could simply ban you consuming too much sugar — and salt; don’t forget that Bloomie has regulated that, too — and that if we can regulate away how much sugar an adult can buy, I see no reason we can’t do the same for tobacco and alcohol.
This is all a Life of Julia meme: you just need the government to take care of you and be responsible for you.
The grown-up Dana (3e4784) — 3/12/2013 @ 11:26 am“…casual acceptance of this as something well-intended as something for our own good…”
As would be getting the trains to run on time.
askeptic (b8ab92) — 3/12/2013 @ 11:42 amBut, in watching a news clip on the reaction of New Yahkers over this decision, I would say that the way for Boomburg to deal with obesity in Gotham is to shut down all….ALL!….public transportation and get people walking again.
My goodness, if they get any fatter, Manhattan is going to tip over.
Dana: interesting. I would argue that extra weight is substantially worse for you than moderate use of alcohol.
aphrael (5d993c) — 3/12/2013 @ 12:11 pmSo … the opinion strikes me as being something of a mess. I would expect it to be substantially modified on appeal, if the BOH chooses to appeal it.
….
Comment by aphrael (5d993c) — 3/12/2013 @ 10:55 am
I imagine the opinion was written something like this: Judge’s note to clerks, “I would be an even bigger a*****le than Bloomberg if I upheld this stupid f***ing horse***t. Draft something within the bounds of judicial decorum striking it down.”
nk (53646e) — 3/12/2013 @ 4:04 pm20. Attention Deficit Syndrome Perry. Sorta answers why I don’t do a blog. I have a problem with paragraphs. Like finishing one.
As to your problem? No we’re not interested. Drop dead already.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 3/12/2013 @ 4:16 pmaphrael wrote:
Have you ever seen a body cut open and what the liver of a drinker looks like?
You have added the adjective “moderate” to qualify your argument, but if you use the same adjective when it comes to being overweight, your argument is probably going to fail; it might start to gain more traction as you get to talking about the morbidly obese, but, even then, if the comparison comes to those who drink more heavily, I doubt you’ll win out.
The Dana who doesn't drink (af9ec3) — 3/12/2013 @ 4:22 pm26. Brooklyn only graduates 37% from HS. 80% who get a diploma are functionally illiterate.
Seems like its a feature of the nanny state.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 3/12/2013 @ 6:22 pmre 32 re 26
.37 x .2 = .074 = 7.4% of students who get into Brooklyn high schools come out being able to read.
Imagine if a doctor correctly treated only 7.4% of his/her patient over 4 years. I don’t think they would keep their job.
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 3/12/2013 @ 6:38 pmJust because you equate them doesn’t mean they are equal. What Bloomberg did was restrict the behavior of consenting adults. He had no right butting into their private transactions. So, yes, it is tyranny, even if it’s a tyranny of which you approve.
Chuck Bartowski (ad7249) — 3/12/2013 @ 7:34 pmHope they don’t try anymore of this silly ‘government trying to make you healthy’ crap … especialy in NY. Let’s hope such nonsense never comes to the most obese states – where obesity kills multitudes of conservatives.
Dad (d40769) — 3/12/2013 @ 9:19 pmBack at the ranch;
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/03/12/the-usda-is-probably-going-to-intervene-in-the-sugar-market-for-only-the-zillionth-time/
narciso (3fec35) — 3/12/2013 @ 9:23 pmDad, your trolling is only getting more stupid by the hour.
SPQR (768505) — 3/12/2013 @ 9:29 pmDad – your hatred is sad. Pathetic. I hope you can find some modicum of happiness. Bless your little heart.
JD (b63a52) — 3/12/2013 @ 9:33 pmAt least the doggies will get the top health care under Obamacare, or maybe not:
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/03/11/obamacare-may-bite-you-at-the-vets-office/
Regardless, that medical device that keeps grandma alive, not so much without a few taxes:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/henrymiller/2012/12/17/obamacares-medical-device-tax-will-cost-innovation-and-jobs/
Judicial Watch, the home of right-wing crazies has something to think about:
http://judicialwatch.org/blog/2013/03/obamacare-could-tax-smartphones-tablets/
I mean, who knows, you have to pass the bill to know what’s in it.
http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/bobbeauprez/2013/03/13/a-red-tape-tower–over-20000-pages-of-obamacare-regulations-n1532308
Ag80 (b2c81f) — 3/12/2013 @ 9:51 pmThat’s right, Dad. It is NOT the job of government to ‘keep us healthy’.
Icy (0936a6) — 3/12/2013 @ 9:54 pmPublish recommended daily allowances? Sure.
Require nutrition info on packaging? Okay.
Tell us what we can and cannot consume? NO.
Dad:
I don’t think that obesity is killing conservatives at the rate you would like.
Obesity is indeed killing people. Political correctness does not allow it to be discussed.
Ag80 (b2c81f) — 3/12/2013 @ 9:57 pmComment by Perry (dc1eab) — 3/12/2013 @ 6:47 am
what Mayor Bloomberg did was with good intent
— Yeah well, all totalitarians control the common citizenry ‘for their own good’.
I equate it with the setting of an age limit under which cigarettes and alcohol cannot be legally sold to our youth, therefore hardly the behavior of a tyrant or a “totaltarian”
— Thank you for illustrating my point. And what great ‘equating’! You have to be 21 to buy cigarettes or alcohol, but you can’t buy a 24 ounce soda until you’re . . . dead?
This also raises the issue of whether it is appropriate to minimize the availability of junk food in K-12 school vending machines. Considering our obesity problem which often starts in childhood, I favor such limits
Icy (0936a6) — 3/12/2013 @ 10:10 pm— Sure, limit what is available in vending machines; that is, as long as you also DO NOT have a school lunch police checking the kids’ brown bags. Parents, not the state, are in charge of their children.
The purpose of government is to insure the rights of the people. Aside from that, the people should be free to make their own choices and live their lives as they see fit.
It’s not the place of government to “make you healthy”. That’s your job, and if you don’t wish to do it, that’s okay by me.
Chuck Bartowski (ad7249) — 3/12/2013 @ 10:26 pmwhere obesity kills multitudes of conservatives.
Yea, because unlike low-income folk, who don’t have lots of money for food, food, food (and whose neighborhoods are overwhelmingly enthralled by liberal politicians and policies) — and who traditionally have been fretted over by the left with: “Think of all the starving poor children!” — the more affluent out there (perhaps less staunchly pro-Democrat-Party than poor people) are packing on the pounds.
Oops. Guess again.
^ While I imagine there are a variety of politically dumb people who are surprisingly sensible about the ins and outs of a good diet, in general, I wouldn’t be surprised if a study revealed that very stereotypically urban-liberal-type people are as nonsensical when it comes to how and what they eat, as to who or what they favor on election day.
Mark (36f69c) — 3/12/2013 @ 10:36 pmActually sometimes its also the job of the government to collect garbage and clear the snow from the streets but you’d never know it from the way Bloomberg runs New York.
Steve57 (60a887) — 3/12/2013 @ 10:38 pm