Michelle Obama Speech
Michelle Obama delivered an affectionate tribute to her husband Tuesday night as a man of courage and unshakable conviction, putting a warm gloss on an opening convention program filled with harsh attacks on Republican Mitt Romney.
“I didn’t think it was possible, but today I love my husband more than I did four years ago. Even more than I did 23 years ago, when we first met,” the first lady said in a prime-time speech carried live by the major TV networks. “I love that he’s never forgotten how he started. I love that we can trust Barack to do what he says he’s going to do even when it’s hard – especially when it’s hard.”
Why do I post this? To explain why I don’t think I am going to be “covering” this convention as a blogger. Never mind just being busy in general. I don’t think I can stomach watching bilge like this.
Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe something will come along that will spark my interest and I’ll catch it on YouTube. But right now I just have zero interest in watching this stuff.
More open threads, here we come!
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Dustin (73fead) — 9/4/2012 @ 9:42 pmShorter conventions:
Republicans: Much smaller, much cheaper government focused on the things that are really important so that individuals and businesses can get on with the job of recovery.
Democrats: Bigger government, better government more government with patriotic citizens putting up the cash to pay for it so that government (“all of us acting as ONE”) can get on with the job of recovery.
Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 9/4/2012 @ 9:43 pmGuess she is now glad that she didn’t divorce him after he lost that election in 2000.
ManlyDad (060305) — 9/4/2012 @ 9:46 pm“Republicans: Much smaller, much cheaper government focused on the things that are really important so that individuals and businesses can get on with the job of recovery.”
– Kevin M
Yes. That is what the Republican Party is all about.
Leviticus (cd2e4b) — 9/4/2012 @ 9:49 pm@Kevin– not much evidence of that, but we can wish/hope.
ManlyDad (060305) — 9/4/2012 @ 9:53 pmI can’t watch it either, it gives me a headache and a queasy stomach. Liars are worse than fools.
ropelight (20b2f2) — 9/4/2012 @ 9:58 pm_________________________________________
“I didn’t think it was possible, but today I love my husband more than I did four years ago.
Bleh. Not sure if I find that line more syrupy and saccharine than it really is because mainly because I don’t care for her politics, or because she can be quite an activist (and the antithesis of the devoted traditional wife) in her own right. Or if it’s because there have been rumblings below the surface about her marriage being sort of Bill-and-Hillary-ish, based on reports of her apparently going out of her way to travel separately from the old man—and bloating the family’s (or government’s) budget in the process.
Mark (e03145) — 9/4/2012 @ 10:04 pm1996 Obama: pro-gay marriage.
2012 Obama: pro-gay marriage.
Intervening years Obama: gay marriage? Icky!
Steve57 (40573d) — 9/4/2012 @ 10:06 pmIf we’re gonna vote for “Mom of the Year,” I’m still going with June Cleaver over this Michelle Obama person.
Elephant Stone (65d289) — 9/4/2012 @ 10:11 pmMichelle needs to get her hands out of my kid’s school lunches.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 9/4/2012 @ 10:16 pm“I love that we can trust Barack to do what he says he’s going to do…”
You mean like shut down the prison at Gitmo???
Spare me.
Dave Surls (46b08c) — 9/4/2012 @ 10:39 pmthe column itself was sickeningly syropy enough, but the comments are insane, what color is the moon on your world over there,
narciso (ee31f1) — 9/4/2012 @ 10:39 pm____________________________________________
June Cleaver over this Michelle Obama person.
Evoking the stereotypical 1950s compared with today is a reminder of how we’ve gone from one extreme to the other. I’m referring to the noticeably unfair dynamic of the past, in which a minority (ie, non-WASP) person, when competing for a job, not only would have to be as good, skilled and qualified as his “Ward Cleaver” competitor, he’d have to be much better. Perhaps even a thousand times better just to get his foot in the door.
Obama has pretty much turned that on its head. Here was a person in 2008 who had a very marginal, suspicious background — full of shaky, if not corrupt, aspects when it came to his qualifications — nonetheless handily winning over a competitor (ie, John McCain) who had a fairly reputable and laudable background.
Speaking of the Cleavers, I saw an episode of “Leave It to Beaver” a few months ago on Youtube about a young friend of Theodore “Beaver” Cleaver who was Latino. The plot dealt with the wrongness of discrimination, and I was surprised by how it sort of previewed the socio-political trends that would follow in later years.
Mark (e03145) — 9/4/2012 @ 10:39 pmI thought reggie love was the only one that new when it was hard. Especially hard.
mg (44de53) — 9/4/2012 @ 10:54 pmI guess that’s why they have to head off to to Marth’s Vineyard, Aspen, Hawaii, and the Costa del Sol every once every couple of months. To hide their anguish from the public.
Steve57 (40573d) — 9/4/2012 @ 11:12 pmNothing like a winter shopping spree/Global Warming conference in Copenhagen to conceal those tears over the fact that somewhere, some family in the US is struggling.
It just looks like melting snowflakes on your cheeks.
Steve57 (40573d) — 9/4/2012 @ 11:14 pmI can’t watch Obama. I can’t even listen to him. That fake inflection and intonation sickens me.
As for his ilk, like Tony Villar, same thing, can’t watch or listen at all.
PC14 (87cbf8) — 9/4/2012 @ 11:21 pmMrs G noted that even when Moochelle is smiling, it never reaches her eyes. Lying is hard.
Gazzer (c57582) — 9/4/2012 @ 11:34 pmHad a spiffy comment all written, but then I realized it would violate my personal creed, which holds that there is no net political upside to attacking the First Lady (and no upside to expressing anything concerning their daughters other than unqualified adoration, which of course, I’m doing here, since they’re unqualifiedly adorable children).
I’m not interpreting anything in our host’s post, by the way, as being an attack on the First Lady. But someone will, since everyone not already Of the Body (Landru!) is RACIST!
Beldar (eed156) — 9/5/2012 @ 1:43 amWhen do Aunt zeituni and Uncle omar give their speeches about who to contact for welfare?
mg (44de53) — 9/5/2012 @ 3:00 amNo need to watch the doomsday shuffle, I’m living it.
mg (44de53) — 9/5/2012 @ 3:12 amShe can’t hide her lying eyes…
Colonel Haiku (341738) — 9/5/2012 @ 4:14 amBut then, she’s a lawyer. No offense intended.
Colonel Haiku (341738) — 9/5/2012 @ 4:17 amre: #10… makes me want to eat a bologna sandwich… and I absolutely despise bologna.
Colonel Haiku (341738) — 9/5/2012 @ 4:19 amI turned off the sound. Did she say she was finally proud of America?
nk (875f57) — 9/5/2012 @ 4:31 amI hear you. I love politics, the debate, exchange of ideas but this group has no ideas and is not interested in the exchange of them. I’ve never been angry at Democrats before I just didnt except their theories for government.
This group angers me. From DWS never ending lies, Biden’s buffoonery, and the whole cult of personality thing it just turns my stomach.
miker301 (1ef287) — 9/5/2012 @ 4:54 amShe doesn’t really bother me, since I didn’t elect her and first ladies are allowed their hobbies — gardens, healthy meals at school…
But to even pretend that Barack H. Obama has done anything hard is an insult to those of us working two jobs to make ends meet. Golf ain’t hard, Mrs. Obama. Getting healthcare passed ain’t hard. Changing your mind on gay marriage just ain’t hard.
Remember when Bill Clinton repeatedly called any legislative success “the hardest thing I’ve ever done…” Having never done anything remotely “hard” these folks think their workaday lives are difficult.
She does not have a clue what it’s like in the real world. If she ever struggled — really struggled — those days are long gone. Ever since Mr. Obama became a legislator, the seet real estate deals, crony job for Mrs. Obama, and the ghost-written memoirs have come easy. I don’t resent their success — but please, please don’t pretent to tell the American people that the president has done anything remotely hard.
ukuleledave (c59551) — 9/5/2012 @ 5:10 amthat’s “sweet real estate deals” and “don’t even “pretend.”
Gotta start spell-cheching.
ukuleledave (c59551) — 9/5/2012 @ 5:12 amYou need to keep your own bilge pump on just to avoid drowning in your own bile. And keep those hands clasped over your ears while shouting “NAAAAH-NAAAAAH-NAHHHHH” over and over until it’s over.
Larry Reilly (040aea) — 9/5/2012 @ 6:00 amYou’ll be OK.
Larry Reilly does his usual demonstration of projection.
SPQR (26be8b) — 9/5/2012 @ 6:09 amLeviticus@4–
Before your comments started to consist primarily of snark and attempts at badda-bing drum bang moments they were frankly much more interesting to read and spoke better of your intellectual capacities. In other words what did you think of Michelle’s speech to the convention? What were your impressions of how her words may have come across to voters who may still be on the fence? Did you think her speech writers provided her with a well planned out and coherent message that will resonate beyond the convention floor?
elissa (9fa026) — 9/5/2012 @ 6:10 amFrankly, this line is the most hilarious of her speech: “I love that we can trust Barack to do what he says he’s going to do even when it’s hard – especially when it’s hard.”
Given that not a single item of his campaign promises could this describe. Heck, even the DADT repeal required proponents on Congress to drag him kicking and screaming to implementation.
Obama the Empty Suit(tm) is a constant, you can trust that he will abandon all of his “hard” promises.
SPQR (26be8b) — 9/5/2012 @ 6:12 amShe’s probably still proud to be an American. That will end on Nov 6 and by Nov 7 she’ll hate US again.
I believe she takes all the vacations at tax payer’s expense as her means of extracting reparations from us. After all, unlike obama, she has “slave blood” in her.
Jim (748bc6) — 9/5/2012 @ 6:14 amYou need to keep your own bilge pump on just to avoid drowning in your own bile. And keep those hands clasped over your ears while shouting “NAAAAH-NAAAAAH-NAHHHHH” over and over until it’s over.
You’ll be OK.
Larry, assuming that is directed at me, actually I am ok. My comment contains far less bile that the usual Dem. talking points. Oddly enough, my hands have not been over my ears. I have taken in all the illogical, wrong-headed plans of the Obama administration and have found them wanting.
ukuleledave (c59551) — 9/5/2012 @ 6:27 amThe plan is not working. In fact, many days the president is NOT working. Is there a logical counter-arguement to those statements?
She was an associate at one of the leading firms in Chicago, then she kicked poor people ‘out to the curb’ from U of Chicago Hospital, she prefers the company of Saudi princes and oligarchs in Marbella,
narciso (ee31f1) — 9/5/2012 @ 6:29 amratherthan her fellow countrymen in the summmer time, even those from the Vineyard,
When I read this posts, I know again why US was so impopulair in the rest of the world. We like you’re music, we like the movies. But the republicans they are haters, or at least that’s what we think. It’s really a pity for the rest of the world if Romney wins this election.
Wendy Tang (21f4cf) — 9/5/2012 @ 6:41 amWendy Tang, that’s a hilariously stupid comment on your part given the reality of Democrat vile dishonest attacks on Romney/Ryan in recent weeks.
SPQR (3a9ddb) — 9/5/2012 @ 6:46 amIs it time for the Billy Madison already;
narciso (ee31f1) — 9/5/2012 @ 6:51 amhttp://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/05/Fact-Check-Michelle-Obama-s-False-Fairy-Tale-of-Struggle
narciso (ee31f1) — 9/5/2012 @ 6:53 amInsatapundit links to a Jeff Carter piece at Points and Figures that list all of Obama’s decisions avoiding hard choices. He lacks all leadership skills and is an empty suit(tm).
SPQR (3a9ddb) — 9/5/2012 @ 6:55 amI laughed, I won’t lie. But the GOP would have much lower deficits than the democrats have.
I think the 2000s show this. It wasn’t until the democrats took congress and started threatening to defund our troops if the GOP didn’t agree to enormous spending elsewhere that the deficit really skyrocketed. And today, there’s no budget passed so that the democrats can keep the spending going.
No one (that I’m aware of) is saying the GOP deficits were acceptable. We need to stop spending more money than we bring in, after all. No deficit is acceptable. But if this matter concerns you, the GOP is a no brainer improvement despite its flaws.
Dustin (73fead) — 9/5/2012 @ 7:01 amWendy Tang, Obama was supposed to fix that….what happened?
reff (4dcda2) — 9/5/2012 @ 7:05 amukuleledave, Larry Reilly does not talk TO people; he talks AT them.
Icy (71a307) — 9/5/2012 @ 7:06 amLeviticus doesn’t care, the deficits were mostly about the GOP trying to curry favor on education, and Medicare Part D, you can never pander enough,
narciso (ee31f1) — 9/5/2012 @ 7:06 amthe military is one of the legitimate function of
government, that the Dems either denounce, (Cheney’s death squad, about the Seals, ‘air raiding villages, terrorizing Iraqi tribesmen) or they sell access to a movie company for.
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But the republicans they are haters, or at least that’s what we think.
And yet how many of you oddball liberals, found throughout the world, particularly the type located in the Western World, are so strangely accommodating of, or less troubled by, the Islamofascists in nations like Egypt? How many of you were and are strangely acquiescent about the fanaticism and ruthlessness found in Hugo Chavez’s Venezuela, Castro’s Cuba, the former Soviet bloc?
You on the left like to think of yourselves as so compassionate, tolerant and generous — and sophisticated — but you’re really about as reliable, authentic and sensible as a bunch of spoiled, bratty, flaky teenagers—(“mom and dad are haters ‘cuz they don’t bend to my rules. They’re haters ‘cuz they follow rules, ‘cuz they’re prudes and party poopers!”).
Mark (e03145) — 9/5/2012 @ 7:07 amWow, the comments on me, I rest my case.
Wendy Tang (21f4cf) — 9/5/2012 @ 7:11 amWhen I read this posts, I know again why US was so impopulair in the rest of the world. We like you’re music, we like the movies. But the republicans they are haters, or at least that’s what we think. It’s really a pity for the rest of the world if Romney wins this election.
Comment by Wendy Tang — 9/5/2012 @ 6:41 am
— Yep. We’re so impopular that hardly anyone wants to come here to study, or to work, or to live anymore.
Tell me, in your country are you free to disagree with people whose views you don’t share? or do you all just share one view, which conveniently avoids all strife & conflict?
Icy (71a307) — 9/5/2012 @ 7:14 amFor the record, my father fought against the communists. But that’s all you can think, if you’re thinking about somebody else, you’re imediately a communist. That’s why you are haters. You can’t think in grey tones. Only black and white.
Wendy Tang (21f4cf) — 9/5/2012 @ 7:14 amYes offcourse we can disagree. But here nobody dies because they can’t pay there bills of healthcare!
Wendy Tang (21f4cf) — 9/5/2012 @ 7:16 am“I have seen firsthand that being president doesn’t change who you are — no, it reveals who you are.” — Michelle Obama.
This really needs to be a caption on Mr. Eastwood’s empty chair.
My wife, a life-long Democrat, isn’t watching. She’s decided that she’ll watch Clinton on CSPAN tonight … and that’s all.
htom (412a17) — 9/5/2012 @ 7:18 amSorry for my poor Englisch, I am not a native speaker…
Wendy Tang (21f4cf) — 9/5/2012 @ 7:19 amWendy, some of us think and dream in colors.
htom (412a17) — 9/5/2012 @ 7:20 amH8rz! Racists!
JD (a13448) — 9/5/2012 @ 7:26 amEords fail, and they burn like the ‘ships at the Rings of Tannhauser’
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/05/us/politics/better-off-its-less-clear-than-in-1980-campaign.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
narciso (ee31f1) — 9/5/2012 @ 7:28 amSpeaking of media fluff, I just heard a hard hitting piece on KABC radio in LA:
Mayor Villaragoso was the first person to see the first lady back stage after she gave her speech.
I am breathless.
AZ Bob (1c9631) — 9/5/2012 @ 7:32 amTo htom, that’s a nice remark. And I couldn’t agree more!
Wendy Tang (21f4cf) — 9/5/2012 @ 7:36 amMs. Tang, since the Euroweenies think Obama is the second coming of Christ, why don’t you elect him YOUR leader? I’m told both Germans and French think he is just sooo auszgezeichnet by huge margins, almost at blacks voting for teh won/messiah/magic negro landslides. Yes, rethuglicans are so hateful and jealous. Of course that surely warrants the hateful speech by geniuses of the left like Samuel L. Jackson and aging blonde bimbo Ellen Barkin, both wishing death to republicans (and I suppose blacks and dems in Tampa) from Isaac. Brings to mind Fatboy Mikey Moore’s consternation over the destruction of New York on 911.
Calypso Louis Farrakhan (e799d8) — 9/5/2012 @ 7:41 amBy her own admission, she was only ‘proud of her country’ when he was selected, by his, ‘Reagan’s dark deeds’ were what motivated his community organizing.
narciso (ee31f1) — 9/5/2012 @ 7:42 am____________________________________________
That’s why you are haters. You can’t think in grey tones.
That deserves a LOL. Your own thinking, by contrast, is so nuanced and sophisticated that those you disagree with are “haters.” Yep, that sounds like one big shade of gray.
Meanwhile, let us worry about the US, or “imperialist America,” or “racist America,” or “homophobic America.”
You worry about the totalitarianists in the People’s Republic of China (who are so humane and benevolent they do things like lovingly censor the Internet), the do-gooder Socialists who have run — and are running — countries like Greece straight into the toilet, the big-hearted Eva-Peron-types in nations like Argentina, which, once again, is falling apart at the seams like the typical Banana-Republic house of cards that it has long been.
Mark (e03145) — 9/5/2012 @ 7:43 amKrauthammer thought Michelle Obama’s speech was brilliant because it presented Barack Obama as acting out of compassion instead of self-interest. He is Barack the saint, not Barack the politician — and the tears at the convention show it resonated with the Party faithful. They love their messiah.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 9/5/2012 @ 7:45 amWendy Tang,
Why do you hate Republicans ?
Elephant Stone (65d289) — 9/5/2012 @ 7:47 amIs it because you’re a hater ?
Ann Althouse had a completely different take. It reminded her of Michelle Obama’s self-centered speech in support of Chicago’s bid for the 2016 Olympics. The common theme between Krauthhammer’s analysis and Althouse’s take seems to be that it’s getting harder for the Obamas to convince us they aren’t self-centered.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 9/5/2012 @ 7:53 amTo Mark, I only respond to the remarks above. Maybe you have to read them, then you understand why I think you are haters. And also to the other one about China, yes I couldn’t agree more. My father fought against the communist, I already stated that. China is far from being perfect. It’s not about a country that is paradise where everyone agrees with each other. It’s good to disagree, but it’s so easy to say ‘she can’t hide her lying eyes’ and a lot of other remarks are so hatefull. But I think I made my point, I wouldn’t expect that you see it the same way.
Wendy Tang (21f4cf) — 9/5/2012 @ 7:56 amWhat you need to know is that Barack’s greatest influence was Frank Davis, a Stalinist at heart,
narciso (ee31f1) — 9/5/2012 @ 8:00 amthat both of them are disciples of Derrick Bell,
the Jeremiah Wright of law, they despise this country and want to bring it down a peg,
63 you might check out all the adoring and loving comments about the evil rich romney at sites such as democratic underground, kos kids and little green footballs or even moron.org, er, I mean moveon.org. Spent all of ten seconds at chucky johnson’s lizard swamp and saw he was unhappy with mittens.
Calypso Louis Farrakhan (e799d8) — 9/5/2012 @ 8:02 amWendy Tang,
By calling us liars, you are engaging in hate. You are in effect, a hater. Perhaps, you should take time for personal inventory, and examine why it is you hate us, and determine if the stress of hating us is eliciting a rise in your blood pressure. You lefties may not be able to stop the rise of the oceans, but you can stop the rise of your blood pressure.
We don’t hate you. We merely believe you are misguided and poorly informed. Open your mind to different points of view.
Elephant Stone (65d289) — 9/5/2012 @ 8:11 amAmerica does not need to become like the rest of the world. The rest of the world needs to become more like America.
“Before your comments started to consist primarily of snark and attempts at badda-bing drum bang moments they were frankly much more interesting to read and spoke better of your intellectual capacities. In other words what did you think of Michelle’s speech to the convention? What were your impressions of how her words may have come across to voters who may still be on the fence? Did you think her speech writers provided her with a well planned out and coherent message that will resonate beyond the convention floor?”
– elissa
Political conventions fill me with bile. If that makes you think less of my intellectual capacities, then so be it. Waste your time watching their speeches if you want. I won’t.
Leviticus (cd2e4b) — 9/5/2012 @ 8:12 amHis other mentor, Ayers, thought it proper that 25 million Americans be liquidated, when the Revolution came
narciso (ee31f1) — 9/5/2012 @ 8:12 amTrue. And the GOP lost its way for that. We can’t afford that stuff.
But it’s a lot like bashing your wife for eating out too often when she points out that you can’t afford the two Harleys you just bought by cashing in your IRA.
We need a sense of scale. The GOP is better on spending than the democrats are.
But I wouldn’t be too hard on Leviticus. He expresses a point the GOP needs to be keenly aware of. There is a credibility problem with the GOP because it has made some mistakes on spending. I think this is why Romney picked Paul Ryan. That was a risky decision that helps highlight the urgency of spending reform.
Dustin (73fead) — 9/5/2012 @ 8:18 amWendy Tang:
Here are some comments from the Huffington Post site. Please note all are from Democrats.
“His name should be, Paul Lyin’.”
“He wants to cut Social Security, but he used his Dad’s to get through college. He voted to increase the debt for several years, now blames Obama for the debt. He Lies, then lies about lying.”
“Lie, back pedal, lie back pedal, lie back pedal! A fine GOP tradition.”
“Lyin’ Ryan.”
“It’s my feeling that the GOP (Greed Over People Party) believes that if they carpet reality with unchallenged LIES all the time, lies of every kind, lies about everything, that people will just think LIES are truth. So Paul Ryan says he ran a marathon under 3 hours because of all of them, he is probably the most committed to lying — there is a thrill for him in lying.”
microcosme (270ae1) — 9/5/2012 @ 8:20 amWendy,
Mark has a great point. Your discussion of Republicans is very narrow and shows a refusal to think in the ‘grey tones’ you condemn republicans for not relying on.
It is grandiose to appoint yourself spokesman for the entire planet. It is bizarre to define a political movement as “haters” when their platform is simply based on how we can’t afford the government spending as much as it is.
Ignoring what Republicans are proposing and switching that with ‘they are haters… I, spokesman of Earth, insist this’ kinda makes it difficult to take you seriously.
Try to be less hateful, Wendy.
Dustin (73fead) — 9/5/2012 @ 8:27 amThey’re not being “too hard” on me, Dustin – just making their own points. elissa’s observation is accurate – I have been a lot more snarky lately. The conventions have exacerbated it – exposure to constant blatant unapologetic lying and manipulation and false patriotism has jaded me, I guess.
Leviticus (cd2e4b) — 9/5/2012 @ 8:27 amFair enough, Leviticus. You don’t like politics.
I don’t waste my time watching Snooki or Keeping Up With the Kardashians because that type of program fills me with bile. At the same time I don’t go on TMZ or the shows’ websites to leave mocking comments and complain about the stupidity and venality of reality shows.
elissa (9fa026) — 9/5/2012 @ 8:28 amYeah. Well, this site has a special place in my heart as a place for discourse – real discourse, like, with honesty and good faith and stuff. You’ve been here long enough to know exactly what I’m talking about.
The conventions are the antithesis of that – in their tone, if not their content (psych: they have no content). So, to my mind, it’s the people that want to talk about the conventions as serious political moments that are in the wrong place. Not me.
But your mileage may vary. For my part, I wouldn’t want to reduce this place to the Republican Party’s website (as your analogy indicates).
Leviticus (cd2e4b) — 9/5/2012 @ 8:36 amWhat lying? What false patriotism?
I buy into the idea that there is a profoundly patriotic case for replacing Obama with Romney and Democrat legislators with Republicans. I am not familiar with any lies promoting this campaign.
If you think the flag waving and calls for American exceptionalism are dishonest and solely based on obtaining power, sure, you’re going to be disgusted. But why think that?
Dustin (73fead) — 9/5/2012 @ 8:37 amI agree that conventions, a political party’s promotion of itself, is not a discourse between two parties.
It’s one side of that discourse.
I agree that we don’t want our favorite blogs to resemble that. We want an interesting discussion with many POVs instead of just one.
But it’s good that we can find each platform presented somewhere.
Dustin (73fead) — 9/5/2012 @ 8:45 am____________________________________________
then you understand why I think you are haters.
And so the non-leftists in the PRC, who are appropriately and understandably alarmed and appalled by the totalitarian instincts of what’s technically and operationally still a Communist regime, are haters?
Perhaps not you, but many people on the left are so easily deluded by even the pretense of compassion and do-gooderism, that they fall for the propaganda spun forth by typical Communist or ultra-liberal systems. And now, in a weird, ironic twist to that, many liberals are responding in a like manner to the world of Islamofascism.
To them it’s a matter of “oh, those Islamicists are from the Third World. They’re from sad, pathetic underdog societies. So let’s pat them on the head and make accommodations for their unusual Sharia laws. Otherwise, we’ll look like haters!”
Mark (e03145) — 9/5/2012 @ 8:51 am______________________________________________
Your discussion of Republicans is very narrow and shows a refusal to think in the ‘grey tones’ you condemn republicans for not relying on.
When I envision such people as being rather young — perhaps no older than in their late 20s, or even in their early 30s — I tend not to be as annoyed with their way of thinking. But when I observe much older people still clinging to liberalism and left-leaning politicians — and continuing to buy into the notion that leftist instincts are a sign of one’s niceness and humanity — that astonishes me. It’s like studying a case of stunted or arrested maturity.
BTW, people along the lines of Barack Obama are over 50 years old. Chris Matthews of MSNBC is 66 years old. People like George Soros are much older than that. Again, a part of such people’s brain must be intrinsically immature.
Mark (e03145) — 9/5/2012 @ 9:00 amThe government is the one thing we all belong to.
JD (a13448) — 9/5/2012 @ 9:05 amGeorge Soros only “believes” in liberalism to the extent that he can make a few billion bucks from the financial chaos it creates.
Icy (71a307) — 9/5/2012 @ 9:10 amGroup hug for Leviticus!
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 9/5/2012 @ 9:29 amAfter the Yankees collapsed again, I watched 2 episodes of “Mobsters” on Biography, including one about Jimmy Burke of “Goodfellas” fame. Show failed to mention Burke went to his grave without revealing where the balance of the Luftansa robbery swag was hidden; no one knows, but we could be talking about millions. If you choose to watch sob stories cut with abortionpalooza it’s on you.
Bugg (6cf7f9) — 9/5/2012 @ 9:37 amBreitbart screed:
“They were accepted to Ivy League schools despite undistinguished credentials, and both attended Harvard Law School.”
Michelle Obama was on the honor high school honor roll and graduated second in her class. She graduated cum laude from Princeton.
“Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) told the Washington Post that the GOP’s future is in doubt because it doesn’t appeal more to minorities. ‘The demographics race we’re losing badly,’ Graham said. ‘We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term.’ ”
http://www.drudge.com/news/160603/graham-not-enough-angry-white-guys
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Black man, white woman, black baby
Fear of a Black Planet
sleeeepy (b5f718) — 9/5/2012 @ 9:38 amPerhaps Wendy Tang is correct about you Rethuglicans being mean and hate-filled. You don’t want to pay your fair of taxes, you dismiss Global warming and disrespect man/bear/pig algore. After the Second world war you did not see Euroweenies wasting money on military pursuits to protect themselves from the Soviets, did you? Look at the Nobel Peace Prizes- good loving people like Jimmuh Carter, Yassir Arafish, algore, Barry Soetero. Unlike algore or mikey moore, just how many awards has W won? Algore’s carbon credit wealth, Oscar, Emmy and Peace Prizes all prove his inner humanity and goodness.
Calypso Louis Farrakhan (e799d8) — 9/5/2012 @ 9:39 amWhen I enter the voting booth, I will remember that Obama has compassion for me and will work across the aisle next term. Mittens abuses dogs and makes women die from cancer. It must be true because the media says so.
Sleeeeeepy woke up from its stupor long enough to call people racists. Shocking, I tell you.
JD (6e921a) — 9/5/2012 @ 9:51 amRe 62 and Althouse talking about anyone being self-centered. This coming from a deeply disturbed alcoholic and megalomaniac.
That you cite her is pure comedy gold. Thank you for making my day.
Charles Giacometti (e5d2dd) — 9/5/2012 @ 9:53 amWendy Tang, I was the first to respond to your first comment, and that was a question as opposed to a comment. There was one other response, and, while a bit snarky, it too asked you questions you might have responded to
Your next response, SIX MINUTES AFTER MINE, was to complain about the responses to you. You didn’t choose to answer any question, you immediately attacked US as if we did something to you.
You projected onto us the way you think, not the way we think.
Please try actually answering, and we’ll be happy to work with you.
Now, didn’t Obama say he was going to fix all that???
reff (4dcda2) — 9/5/2012 @ 9:53 amWendy Tang @48…. Your father fought against Communism. What is Communism, and how is what Obama wants so very different from Communism?
reff (4dcda2) — 9/5/2012 @ 9:55 amSleeeepy,
In 2009, you guys had super-majorities in both the Senate and the House. The Holy Obamessiah didn’t even feel it necessary to debate or negotiate with the GOP, because as he informed Senator McCain at the televised February 2010 dialogue about health care, “The election is over, John—I won.”
You can almost feel your party’s clutches on the White House slipping out of your grasp. Soon, the anger will set in. You’ll want to lash out.
I bet the entire notion fills you with…bile !
Elephant Stone (65d289) — 9/5/2012 @ 9:58 amThank you for your nonsense, Giacometti.
JD (6e921a) — 9/5/2012 @ 10:04 amThis coming from a deeply disturbed alcoholic and megalomaniac. That you cite her is pure comedy gold.
Comment by Charles Giacometti — 9/5/2012 @ 9:53 am
— You shouldn’t talk about Chrissie Matthews that way.
Icy (71a307) — 9/5/2012 @ 10:06 am“What is Communism, and how is what Obama wants so very different from Communism?”
The horns of stupid
Republican Proposition A: Obama is a corrupt Chicago politician, the product of the old Daley machine for the new era.
Republican Proposition B: Obama is a communist.
Obama is a comunno-banko-capitalo-anarcho-fasco-slacker-foreigner!!
The problem is that Obama is trying to turn this country into a multi culti Germany and you’re trying your damndest to turn it into a bankrupt Greece.
sleeeepy (b5f718) — 9/5/2012 @ 10:07 am_________________________________________
The Holy Obamessiah
It’s gotten so ridiculous that your phrase isn’t necessarily even sarcastic. I mean even dyed-in-the-wool liberals/Democrats must be throwing up a bit in their mouth:
Mark (e03145) — 9/5/2012 @ 10:08 am==Obama is trying to turn this country into==
Aye, there’s the rub.
elissa (9fa026) — 9/5/2012 @ 10:09 am_________________________________________
to turn it into a bankrupt Greece.
Coming from you, that’s particularly hilarious. After all, Greece has been awash for years in the pro-self-entitlement, pro-do-gooder-social-programs, pro-safety-net-a-mile-wide sentiments that are hallmarks of the left.
Mark (e03145) — 9/5/2012 @ 10:13 amSleeeepy,
I think elissa just caught you uttering a Freudian slip. That’s the problem when you begin drinking so early in the day—you’re bound to reveal some otherwise oppressed truths.
Elephant Stone (65d289) — 9/5/2012 @ 10:16 amYou said that “Obama is trying to turn this country into…”
See, you finally admit that Obama is trying to turn this country into something different.
Lindsey Graham: ‘We need to appeal to everyone’
Icy (71a307) — 9/5/2012 @ 10:20 amsleeeeepy: “Fear of a black planet”
— Something here does not compute.
Sleepy….ditto Mark….socialism is just another form of Communism….and smart Americans don’t want either….
reff (4dcda2) — 9/5/2012 @ 10:24 amto turn it into a bankrupt Greece.
An admitted socialist bemoaning the inevitable collapse of Euro lite socialisms is just precious.
JD (6e921a) — 9/5/2012 @ 10:31 amThe problem is that Obama is trying to turn this country into a multi culti Germany and you’re trying your damndest to turn it into a bankrupt Greece.
— He’ll be here all week, folks! Don’t forget to tip your waitress.
Icy (71a307) — 9/5/2012 @ 10:47 amIcy,
Sounds like the featured comedian Sleeepy took the establishment’s “two drink minimum” to heart.
Elephant Stone (65d289) — 9/5/2012 @ 10:52 am““Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) told the Washington Post that the GOP’s future is in doubt because it doesn’t appeal more to minorities.”
sleeeepy – You’ve posted that quote before. If he said it to the Washington Post, where is the link to WaPo?
To me it sounds like he is making fun of Harry Reid’s racist comment about a bunch of old white guys waking up the morning after the election. Remember anything about that, sleeeepy?
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 9/5/2012 @ 11:08 am“Thank you for your nonsense, Giacometti.”
JD – We have not seen Chuckles in quite some time.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 9/5/2012 @ 11:11 amdaleyrocks, it’s on the WaPo website, in an article titled “As Republican convention emphasizes diversity, racial incidents intrude” By Rosalind S. Helderman and Jon Cohen, Published: AUGUST 29, 9:29 PM ET
Icy (71a307) — 9/5/2012 @ 11:17 amThe quote: “The demographics race we’re losing badly,” said Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.). “We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term.” It is published as a separate paragraph, devoid of context.
“It is published as a separate paragraph, devoid of context.”
Icy – Of course it is. I believe he’s mocking Harry Reid.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 9/5/2012 @ 11:38 amDaley you know how to use google.
Here it is.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/as-republican-convention-emphasizes-diversity-racial-incidents-intrude/2012/08/29/b9023a52-f1ec-11e1-892d-bc92fee603a7_story.html
The Euro was a mistake as many people pointed out before, and now since. But the proximate cause of the collapse was the collapse of the US real estate bubble, promoted by Greenspan, Bush, Clinton and the rest. Bon’t start with the Fannie and Freddie crap. They were followers not leaders; which isn’t to say they weren’t in the game. They were.
sleeeepy (b5f718) — 9/5/2012 @ 11:44 amMeanwhile: Block the Vote!
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/09/obama_campaign_ohio_early_voting.php?ref=fpnewsfeed
More vile than any speech,
sleeeepy (b5f718) — 9/5/2012 @ 11:47 amSpeaking of “vile”…is there anything more pathetic and vile than a banned commenter who won’t admit it? And skulks around anyway?
Simon Jester (2708f4) — 9/5/2012 @ 11:49 amMakes you doubt the honesty and the beliefs of such a low person, doesn’t it?
Simon Jester (2708f4) — 9/5/2012 @ 11:50 am“They were followers not leaders; which isn’t to say they weren’t in the game.”
sleeeepy – Does it hurt to be so stupid?
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 9/5/2012 @ 12:02 pmI was on FoxNewsChannel (I love DVR), and Bret was going to interview “Little Dickie” Durbin…..
AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92) — 9/5/2012 @ 12:19 pmImmediate “click” to something, anything else.
In reading his lack of response to the “better off” question on this AM’s ‘net, I guess I didn’t miss much except a bad case of indigestion.
The Comatose One has no “honesty and beliefs”, otherwise he wouldn’t be a shill for the Soros Nomenklatura.
AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92) — 9/5/2012 @ 12:20 pmTranscript of Michelle Obama’s Convention Speech
You Tube video of Michelle Obama’s speech – starts playing automatically
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 9/5/2012 @ 1:00 pmThe speech sounded very good, as Rush Limbaugh noted.
The whole point of the speech was to say that becoming President did not change Barack Obama’s values.
No place in that speech, though, does she argue that he knows what he is doing.
She sounded like she loves her daughters more than her husband, and is even worried about whether he wanted the best for them or was careful enough, and she was worried what his becoming president would do to them. She’s mostly won over, but still a bit wary.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 9/5/2012 @ 1:19 pmShe tried to make them look like they came out of poverty, if you didn’t listen closely anyway.
Barack and I were both raised by families who didn’t have much in the way of money or material possessions but who had given us something far more valuable – their unconditional love, their unflinching sacrifice, and the chance to go places they had never imagined for themselves.
My father was a pump operator at the city water plant, and he was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis when my brother and I were young.
Rush Limbaugh said his salary was around $50,000 to $55,000 a year (which works out to the equivalent of $282,000 in 2012 Dollars. Now wait a second! No city employee gets paid that kind of money.)
Her father was also a Democratic precinct captain – part of the Daley machine in other words – a ward heeler! She went to a magnet school. Barack Obama went to the best private school maybe in Hawaii.
he was the guy whose proudest possession was a coffee table he’d found in a dumpster, and whose only pair of decent shoes was half a size too small.
That could sound like Obama was poor, but “prized possession” – her complaint was that he had no taste.
Prized possession = he’d taken with him a few times when he moved – he found that in New York, not Chicago, or maybe even in California.
And the shoes? He didn’t know how to buy shoes. Or what shoes to buy.
Sounds like: He had plenty of sneakers or non-Oxfords that fit. He didn’t expect dress shoes to feel comfortable, so it didn’t occur to him something was wrong with the size when they hurt him!! He maybe didn’t know shoe sizes, or they were different with this manufacturer.
He never cared about cars – if it had a hole in the door, but it worked, it was OK.
…picked me up for our dates in a car that was so rusted out, I could actually see the pavement going by through a hole in the passenger side door..
When I heard that, I thought – you could see the pavement – I was thinking of Fred Flintstone or Barney Rubble’s car.
Where was that hole again? In the floor??
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 9/5/2012 @ 1:25 pmSo what she was saying really was: He had no sense of style. Or at least not beyond what his mother had told him: Look like Harry Belafonte.
And that’s maybe why the law firm she worked for made her his mentor. (That was before he went to law school. Somebody sent him.)
But she made it sound a little like like he was poor at that point.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 9/5/2012 @ 1:26 pmAbout nine minutes into the speech, she gets to:
We learned about honesty and integrity – that the truth matters…that you don’t take shortcuts or play by your own set of rules…and success doesn’t count unless you earn it fair and square.
The truth matters??
We learned about gratitude and humility – that so many people had a hand in our success, from the teachers who inspired us to the janitors who kept our school clean…and we were taught to value everyone’s contribution and treat everyone with respect.
This is something along the “If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help” theme.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 9/5/2012 @ 1:30 pmThere were some very political things in that speech:
“who you love” to describe homosexual marriage.
Really? Is all sex accompanied by love? Is all marriage because of love?
Do who not matter at all?
What about if the other person is married to someone else?
What about if underage? A sibling? A student or teacher? Well, Newt Gingrich did that once.
The Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act ?
Lawyers’s Relief Act maybe. This has to do with when a woman discovers years after the fact, that she’s been on a lower paying track because of decisions made years ago.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 9/5/2012 @ 1:37 pmwomen are more than capable of making our own choices about our bodies and our health care
Dog whistle!
This means contraception included in government mandated health insurance.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 9/5/2012 @ 1:38 pmDems love Illegal Aliens, but The Truth is an alien concept that must be shunned and avoided at all costs.
AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92) — 9/5/2012 @ 1:48 pmCharles Krauthammer
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/09/04/krauthammer_on_michelle_obama_it_was_a_great_speech_but_i_didnt_buy_a_line_of_it.html
Charles Krauthammer: Her whole task was to say why. And her answer was, “Why? Because essentially he’s a saint.” Because of his upbringing and because of his emotions and because of his humanity. He does of this because he cares. And the brilliance of it is this: It drained Obama of any, either, ideological motivation, or any having to do with self interest or ambition, which I think is sort of a more plausible explanation….. She told the story of a Gandhi. And, you know, looking at the scene, looking at how he’s conducted himself in the presidency and particularly in the campaign, with ruthlessness and determination and drive, it’s not quite a plausible story. I’m sure in the arena, it was a plausible story…
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 9/5/2012 @ 2:00 pmComment by AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! — 9/5/2012 @ 1:48 pm
Dems love Illegal Aliens
That’s mostly communicated obliquely. It’s abit of a dog whistle.
They talked of people brought here as children, who never pledged allegiance to anotehr country.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 9/5/2012 @ 2:02 pmThe Republicans, on the other hand, talked over and over again of the virtues of immigration, and avoided the subject of what happens when it is illegal.
Do you think they fooled anybody with that?
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 9/5/2012 @ 2:03 pmComment by daleyrocks — 9/5/2012 @ 11:08 am
Harry Reid’s racist comment about a bunch of old white guys waking up the morning after the election.
17 old men rich enough to collectively buy the presidency of the United Stgates twice over, but not rich enough to afford a dentist.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 9/5/2012 @ 2:05 pm“It’s really a pity for the rest of the world if Romney wins this election.”
We’re not picking our leaders to benefit the rest of the world.
At least, I hope we’re not.
I don’t give a damn what happens in China (for example).
Not my business and not my problem.
Same thing for the U.S. government. I’m not paying them to fiddle around overseas trying to make the world a better place.
Dave Surls (46b08c) — 9/5/2012 @ 2:06 pm49. Comment by Wendy Tang — 9/5/2012 @ 7:16 am
But here nobody dies because they can’t pay there bills of healthcare!
Well, you can’t be talking about Mainland China.
Hong Kong?
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 9/5/2012 @ 2:08 pmsleeeepy – Does it hurt to be so stupid?
Comment by daleyrocks — 9/5/2012 @ 12:02 pm
— It’s probably more of a hazy numbness.
Icy (71a307) — 9/5/2012 @ 2:11 pmThe NY Fed
http://www.newyorkfed.org/research/staff_reports/sr318.pdf
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2008/10/12/53802/private-sector-loans-not-fannie.html
“More than 84 percent of the subprime mortgages in 2006 were issued by private lending institutions.
Private firms made nearly 83 percent of the subprime loans to low- and moderate-income borrowers that year.
Only one of the top 25 subprime lenders in 2006 was directly subject to the housing law that’s being lambasted by conservative critics.”
I’m sorry the angry white men are so dim
sleeeepy (b5f718) — 9/5/2012 @ 2:36 pmSleeeeeeeepy is angry.
JD (6e921a) — 9/5/2012 @ 2:39 pm“More than 84 percent of the subprime mortgages in 2006 were issued by private lending institutions.”
sleeeepy – Fannie and Freddie don’t make direct loans, moron. They purchase loans originated by others.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 9/5/2012 @ 3:02 pmDaley – facts have no place in a discussion with sleeeeeeeeepy.
JD (6e921a) — 9/5/2012 @ 3:04 pmOh, give sleeeepy a break. He read that somewhere and thought it sounded really good. You don’t expect him to have any, like, first hand knowledge of what he’s spewing do you?
elissa (9fa026) — 9/5/2012 @ 3:06 pmsleeeepy – Tell us, did Fannie and Freddie have a few problem classifying loans on their balances sheets? Did they put a bunch in a category called Alt-A when they really should have been in subprime? Also, how much subprime paper did they buy in they aftermarket and park on their balance sheets?
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 9/5/2012 @ 3:10 pmElissa – committed socialists like sleeeeeeeeepy hate facts.
JD (6e921a) — 9/5/2012 @ 3:10 pmelissa – I just like watching his head explode.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 9/5/2012 @ 3:11 pmDaley – don’t dare ask sleeeeeeeeeeerpyn why people were so willing to originate subprime loans. The idea that Freddie/Fannie were willing to purchase same from them had nothing to do with it. Nothing. Nothing, I tell you.
JD (6e921a) — 9/5/2012 @ 3:14 pmFrom James Taranto’s “Best of the Web” column:
Here’s the passage we found most off-putting:
So Sasha and Malia are better off than they were four years ago. Nice to know somebody is.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 9/5/2012 @ 3:14 pmJD and daley–what’s too bad is that sleeeeepy could actually learn quite a lot here about stuff he does not understand if he’d bother to read the substance of comments in a give and take, instead of just moving right on to the next number on his talking point list.
elissa (9fa026) — 9/5/2012 @ 3:28 pm“Daley – don’t dare ask sleeeeeeeeeeerpyn why people were so willing to originate subprime loans. The idea that Freddie/Fannie were willing to purchase same from them had nothing to do with it. Nothing. Nothing, I tell you.”
JD – Or why Freddie and Fannie kept allowing lower and lower down payments and credit scores on loans they bought as long as there was mortgage insurance or the equivalent on the loan. Go figure, huh.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 9/5/2012 @ 3:34 pm“why people were so willing to originate subprime loans. ”
Because they made money off of the signing and didn’t care about the future.
http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2010/12/commentary-subprime-thinking.html
I know you haven’t heard of that blog, but that’s not something you should brag about.
As an aside
Limbaugh
Obama Isn’t “Down With The Struggle” Because He “Doesn’t Have Slave Blood”
“Black Panther Stadium”
That’s not even a dog whistle that’s just the dog
sleeeepy (b5f718) — 9/5/2012 @ 4:10 pmI think The Comatose One needs to find out what it means to be an Authentic Negro.
AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92) — 9/5/2012 @ 4:20 pmMaybe he can ask DE?
AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92) — 9/5/2012 @ 4:21 pm“Black Panther Stadium”
That’s not even a dog whistle that’s just the dog
Comment by sleeeepy — 9/5/2012 @ 4:10 pm
The stadium is being called Panther stadium. Whether Obama is black, white, purple or yellow with polka dots, we associate panthers and dems with the Black Panthers who got away with voter intimidation.
No whistle, no dog even, just corruption.
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photovoltaikversicherung (e9f90b) — 9/5/2012 @ 5:34 pm”
Wow, the comments on me, I rest my case.
Comment by Wendy Tang — 9/5/2012 @ 7:11 am”
You didn’t have a case. You had meaningless snark.
SPQR (26be8b) — 9/5/2012 @ 6:00 pm“The problem is that Obama is trying to turn this country into a multi culti Germany and you’re trying your damndest to turn it into a bankrupt Greece.
Comment by sleeeepy — 9/5/2012 @ 10:07 am ”
Wow, talk about getting everything backwards, sleeeepy. You have no clue at all about what caused Greece to be like Greece (the expectation that government would be the endless font of benefits) and what caused Germany to be Germany (willingness to work hard).
Obama has no clue about how to make anyplace like Germany. He has no clue what German values are, and all of his instincts are to be like Greeks.
SPQR (26be8b) — 9/5/2012 @ 6:02 pmsleeeepy is still utterly ignorant of the financial crisis and its origins. Things that were hashed out fully more than four years ago are still news to sleeeepy.
That’s what happens when you watch MSNBC, you are uninformed.
SPQR (26be8b) — 9/5/2012 @ 6:04 pmHere’s more information on the damage that Democrat policies have done to the US economy.
SPQR (26be8b) — 9/5/2012 @ 6:05 pmObama is no Clinton … to the great damage to all of the United States.
SPQR (26be8b) — 9/5/2012 @ 6:06 pmThat’s why you are haters. You can’t think in grey tones. Only black and white.
Comment by Wendy Tang
What used to be called disagreement is now characterized as hate in some circles. hate speech.
Colonel Haiku (530222) — 9/5/2012 @ 6:12 pmCan’t afford to feed your family and also send Barack Obama money for his campaign? Michelle Obama says that Then you ought to skip a meal in order to pay your tribute to The One.
SPQR (26be8b) — 9/5/2012 @ 6:17 pmSleeeepy,
What did you say—you want Obama to make America more like Nazi Germany ?
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You’re so fucking stupid that you don’t know that Limbaugh is quoting AL SHARPTON when he makes that statement….
AL SHARPTON said that during the primaries in 2008….
what a dweebe….both sleepy and sharp ton…
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And just how, boys and girls, does one make money off the signing of a loan that’s never likely to be repaid?
A thing unheard of in a free market.
And why would the bank not care about the future, when it has shareholders and account holders to whom the banks directors and officers hold a fiduciary duty?
Because the friggin’ government would buy those loans off your hands and re-inject the capital right back into the bank. Those shareholders and account holders weren’t being subject to any risk.
But they would have been had the bank not made the loan. The DoJ and Barack Obama would have sued the bank for red-lining.
It’s the stick and carrot (yeah, I know that’s not how the saying goes, but it’s how libs work) approach the progressives brought to the problem.
First, Barack Obama and people like him would sue you for following sound lending practices as a “racist.” Then, Barney Frank and his boyfriend would sweeten the pot.
And how did these grateful libs, like still cooooomatose, thank the banks for going along with their agenda?
They called them predatory lenders and blamed the whole thing, which was entirely the libs’ idea and couldn’t have worked even in the short term without government manipulation, on the banks.
still cooooomatose. Still a dolt.
Steve57 (40573d) — 9/6/2012 @ 3:46 amOh, and then Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac would repackage the loans as Mortgage Backed Securities, lie to investors about the presence of risky B paper in the mix, and resell these risky loans as if they were solid investments to an unsuspecting public.
Leading to even more risky derivatives as the market had no way to evaluate the risk of the underlying product.
In other words, the government perpetuated a fraud.
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