Romney Tied With Obama in Virginia
A new survey shows Mitt Romney tied with President Obama in the battleground state of Virginia — exciting news for a Republican challenger who has consistently trailed in recent polling of the state.
The survey, released Thursday by Quinnipiac University, shows each candidate garnering 44 percent of the vote. That’s a five-point swing in Romney’s favor since early June.
Hey Mr. President: if you’re in a hole and it’s getting deeper? You got there on your own.
Hey, Romney is tied with Obama. Good for him.
He didn’t do that.
Pious Agnostic (7c3d5b) — 7/19/2012 @ 8:04 amThis is going to be a landslide. Were it not for the MSM propping Obama up, it would be over by now. The recession we just entered won’t help, and they can’t paper it over for long.
Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 7/19/2012 @ 8:17 amBush dug that hole.
/s
jcw46 (52886b) — 7/19/2012 @ 8:41 amWell I’ll hand the Bamster a shovel–and some encouragement to keep digging.
Comanche Voter (29e1a6) — 7/19/2012 @ 8:56 amHey, indeed.
Good stuff.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 7/19/2012 @ 9:02 amSomebody must be digging Obama’s schtick. Tied? Why is this even close?
mike (27f28b) — 7/19/2012 @ 9:08 amI just hope that the president is enjoying his goodbye tour, and is finding some time to get in nine holes once in awhile.
Icy (66b07f) — 7/19/2012 @ 9:08 am_______________________________________________
Good stuff:
I’ll have to be somewhat of a killjoy by saying that an asterisk should be placed next to such information. An asterisk with the note that to be relieved about current trends showing that an ultra-liberal like Obama is not leading a very non-rightwing Republican like Romney in a state with the generally non-liberal background of Virginia illustrates just how foolishly tilted to the left this society has become over the decades. IOW, I’ll feel a lot better when I see a headline along the lines of “Romney Tied With Obama in California.” Or, of course, Massachusetts, or Illinois.
Mark (a346be) — 7/19/2012 @ 9:26 amVirginia’s changed quite a bit over the past two decades. A whole lot of migrants from the Northeast have pushed the state quite a bit left of where it used to be. By far the fastest growing part of the state is NoVa, the DC suburbs. Needless to say, it’s an overwhelmingly Dem region. As a Virginian, it’s been sad to see happen but unfortunately it’s the reality. I wish we could just cede everything north of Fredericksburg to the People’s Republic of Maryland.
radar (257ad5) — 7/19/2012 @ 10:06 amFred Willard arrested for “pulling a Pee-Wee” (so to speak).
Say it ain’t so, Fred!
Icy (66b07f) — 7/19/2012 @ 10:13 amThat hole that Barry finds himself in?
Who dug it for him?
2013: President Romney; Speaker Boehner with an increased majority; Majority-Leader McConnell.
AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92) — 7/19/2012 @ 10:24 amIt will be the last chance for the GOP-Establishment to demonstrate their relevance to the country.
Dismantle the Leviathan, or Die!
11. Barry didn’t dig the hole, it had to be Bush.
jasond (0b7791) — 7/19/2012 @ 10:40 amThis was discussed in an earlier thread;
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/07/bulgarian-bus-bomber-mehdi-ghezali-was-a-former-gitmo-detainee-on-us-watch-list/
narciso (ee31f1) — 7/19/2012 @ 10:47 amThe Nation’s mascot has proven too expensive to keep. Charming in his own inimitable fashion, a price tag of many trillions is simply too steep for even this frivilous an audience.
Can he play piano? Skokie must need dinner club entertainment somewhere and he has a passable baritone.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 7/19/2012 @ 11:13 am“Somebody must be digging Obama’s schtick. Tied? Why is this even close?”
– mike
Because Romney’s a bad joke.
Leviticus (e923df) — 7/19/2012 @ 11:56 amYes, but even a bad joke is funnier than no joke at all; and Bammy is beyond parody, and past farce.
AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92) — 7/19/2012 @ 12:02 pm==Because Romney’s a bad joke==
I can understand that you might disagree with some/many of his right leaning policies even as we all know there are many right leaning citizens out there who do track with him. But you call him a bad joke. I’m interested in what specific ways you see Romney, the 2012 Republican presidential candidate, as a “bad joke”, which, unless I am misreading, seems to be different for you than mere policy disagreement?
Do you see any aspects of him or his history or his positions that you find admirable or at least not a joke?
Do you think you will you be able to accept the verdict if he is ultimately elected President of the United States?
elissa (4fe1f3) — 7/19/2012 @ 12:28 pmWell, Leviticus, we tried the multi-grain, and we found out it liked $85 million dollar vacations, at taxpayers’s expense, for himself (always first), his wife and daughters. And more golf than all the past Presidents (on “the dollar bill” or not) put together. So let’s try the white bread, for hope and change.
nk (875f57) — 7/19/2012 @ 1:02 pmNo comments about my spelling. I sight read. Equals cannot spell.
nk (875f57) — 7/19/2012 @ 1:05 pmThe question is, how does this compare to 2008 and 2000/2004 (which were almost identical)
The Democrat (Obama) did not carry Virginia, except in an election where he got 365 Electoral votes.
Compared to 2004, he also carried (the even less likely) North Carolina and Indiana, as well as Florida, Colorado, Nevada, and the Congressional district in Nebraska that includes Omaha, as well as Iowa and New Mexico which flipped from the year 2000 while New Hampshire flipped the other way from Bush to Kerry.
If Obama carried only the same states as Kerry did in 2004, he’s have 246 Electoral votes to Romney’s 292 (Bush collected 286, but reapportionment added a net 6 Electoral votes to the Republican between 2004/2008 and 2012. It also added 7 between 2000 and 2004.
Virginia is not the easiest state of the ones that Kerry failed to carry for a Democrat to win, so a tie in Virginia is still a led for Obama.
In 2004
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 7/19/2012 @ 1:28 pmNo, Sammy, it is not a question at all. It is not the same election, it is not the same candidates, and for sure as hell speculation (based on long ago polls) equals masturbation.
nk (875f57) — 7/19/2012 @ 1:41 pmI do, sometimes, wonder whether you are a thread diluter, instead of an up and front troll.
nk (875f57) — 7/19/2012 @ 1:43 pm17. “you might disagree with some/many of his right leaning policies”
Jenny and Ann are not polite company young lady.
Left of center cannot, by definition, lean right.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 7/19/2012 @ 1:46 pm18. “we tried the multi-grain”
Not true, we tried Chinese toxic waste sweetened with ethylene glycol packaged as ‘Organic’.
And of the two GOP frontrunners, the better candidate won.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 7/19/2012 @ 1:59 pm20. The only reason Bootblack is in the race in VA is neither major candidate has any military cachet whatever.
VA is hooked on Federal opium. Once they consider that they will not loose their fix simply by changing dealers, purity in fact might improve, they will OD with the cleaner syringe.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 7/19/2012 @ 2:05 pm“Do you see any aspects of him or his history or his positions that you find admirable or at least not a joke?”
– elissa
Not really. He came from a powerful family and leveraged that power into a career for which I have no real admiration/respect. He then leveraged that career into another career for which I have nothing but contempt, and now spends all of his time trying to avoid the topic of his political record so that he can leverage his two contemptible careers into a third career that no one but a narcissistic lunatic would want to begin with.
I guess he raised some kids, and (as far as I know) raised them well. I guess I can admire that.
For what it’s worth, I have absolutely no admiration for Obama, either.
Leviticus (102f62) — 7/19/2012 @ 3:33 pmLeviticus,
It sounds like from the get-go he had strike against him with which he had no control over – coming from a powerful family. And as he was given that opportunity of power, what could he have done to use that power in a way that would be suitable to you? What sort of career?
Dana (292dcf) — 7/19/2012 @ 3:38 pmWhat “powerful” family?
George Romney worked his way up from the bottom at Nash/Kelvinator, and made his mark pushing the Rambler to fruition (much as Lee Iacocca did with the Mustang at Ford). The “Detroit” establishment thought that George was just slightly less “teched” than Preston Tucker. In the early-60’s they were forced to “recalculate”.
AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92) — 7/19/2012 @ 3:39 pmLeviticus-
Do you think Romney’s work with the Olympics was no big deal, that anyone could have done it, that any Mormon who knew people in Salt lake City could have done?
Leviticus, do you consider yourself something other than a capitalist? Many a time I thought that if I was a businessman and could run a company and give people jobs, especially people in “life recovery”, I could do more than as a doctor.
He came from a powerful family and leveraged that power into a career for which I have no real admiration/respect. He then leveraged that career into another career for which I have nothing but contempt
Coming from a rich family is a reason to dislike someone? What careers automatically have no respect (that are legal anyway)?
There is a need even for personal injury lawyers, especially for ones that have a higher calling than the biggest fees they can collect. I don’t think there is anything de novo wrong about being a garbage collector, a president of the US, and many other things below, above, and in between.
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 7/19/2012 @ 4:06 pmDana, you nailed it. Individual babies have no control whatsoever over if, where, when, to which family, as what ethnicity, or into what circumstances they are born. Most of us can and do make choices that help or hinder ourownselves and others down the road. But in that ol’ birth lottery we are each one completely at the mercy of fate. This is the big reason I hate the idea and practice of class and racial warfare so much. To despise individual people over something they had no control of, is wrong wrong wrong.
(Also, being born into a rich powerful family is not always a blessing or any assurance of happiness and success–think the Kennedy clan).
(And ask Jennifer Hudson if, with hard work, it is still possible in this country to pull yourself up by the bootstraps and rise out of the hood.)
elissa (4fe1f3) — 7/19/2012 @ 4:48 pmLeviticus, the only difference between my description of Obama and your description of Romney is that Obama only has had one and a half careers.
SPQR (26be8b) — 7/19/2012 @ 4:55 pmYour comment @4:06 is excellent, MD in Philly.
elissa (4fe1f3) — 7/19/2012 @ 4:55 pm28. Actually George parlayed a career as a labor relations bureaucrat under FDR into a job as auto executive.
He finished his public service as Nixon’s HUD Secretary. His wife was also a politician of significance.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 7/19/2012 @ 6:06 pma … career that no one but a narcissistic lunatic would want to begin with
largely true, but by God’s mercy there will be some who are actually motivated at least to a substantial degree by good things… and have families that are able and willing to tolerate the abuse… I can see how a monarchy has it’s points
thanks, elissa
the Bible says the rich are to use their wealth to be rich in good deeds as a general principle, the selling all one has and give to the poor was one example, not the general instruction
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 7/19/2012 @ 6:48 pmit is also among the 10 commandments not to harbor jealousy of other people’s stuff, and the NT statement is that their is “great gain in Godliness with contentment”. Justice is one thing for specific wrongdoing, a sense of being owed something because others have it better is a poison.
I like Leonidas talking to Xerxes at Thermopylae, MD in Philly: If you knew what is best is life, you would not desire power over the lives and property of other people.
nk (875f57) — 7/19/2012 @ 6:53 pm34. All fine sentiments, like the practice of not harvesting the corners of one’s fields inorder that the poor could provide for themselves.
Now lets talk about financing capital gains cuts with a VAT.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 7/19/2012 @ 6:54 pmLeviticus, sometimes you define callow. Get practical. We’re stuck with a President and with Romney we’ll get one who will be different from the previous Cluster**** of A Miserable Failure.
nk (875f57) — 7/19/2012 @ 6:56 pmThis Quinipiac poll is interesting simply by virtue of its timing.
Not sure which was planned first, but is it a coincidence that Quinipiac chose to poll Virginia over a 6 day period (July 10-16) which happened to encompass a 3 day campaign swing by the President down the coast and into Hampton Roads????
Yet, notwithstanding his campaign presence and extensive media coverage of his events, his numbers were off from where they were in early June.
Also, as I think I noted here earlier, the 2008 election was broken down in its aftermath by Barone who found that it wasn’t No. Virginia that delivered the state to Obama in 2008, it was the Hampton Roads/Virgina Beach area, and western Virginia that did so.
Rural white voters in western Virginia who had supported Hillary Clinton in the primaries did not defect to McCain in the general. In addition, the voting rate of African-Americans in southeast Virginia was significantly above historical averages, and voted better than 95% for Obama.
The aggregate totals of those two voting blocks delivered the difference for Obama to take the state.
He will not repeat is performance in western Virginia.
And while African American voters in Southeast Virginia might still vote for Obama by a rate of 95% or better, there is no sign of the level of enthusiasm for him that generated the massive turnout in 2008.
He’s going to lose North Carolina, and Virginia is trending away from him as well.
shipwreckedcrew (056c1d) — 7/19/2012 @ 7:04 pmComing from a rich family is a reason to dislike someone? What careers automatically have no respect (that are legal anyway)?
Is it just the folly of youth and a lack of life experience that afflicts these young malcontents? Or has it been bred or “educated” into them?
Colonel Haiku (b61252) — 7/19/2012 @ 7:11 pmBecause Romney’s a bad joke.
Comment by Leviticus — 7/19/2012 @ 11:56 am
— Dig the ad hom from the college set!
He came from a powerful family and leveraged that power into a career for which I have no real admiration/respect.
— Okay, here is your big chance. Please explain what “leveraged that power into a career” means. GO!
He then leveraged that career into another career for which I have nothing but contempt
— He ‘bought’ the governorship, did he?
and now spends all of his time trying to avoid the topic of his political record so that he can leverage his two contemptible careers into a third
— And your evidence that he is trying to avoid talking about his record as governor is WHAT?
[a] career that no one but a narcissistic lunatic would want to begin with.
— Agreement at last!
Obama IS a narcissistic lunatic.
I guess he raised some kids, and (as far as I know) raised them well. I guess I can admire that.
— Is there a legal term that corresponds to “damning with faint praise”?
For what it’s worth, I have absolutely no admiration for Obama, either.
Icy (4e9549) — 7/19/2012 @ 10:58 pm— Nobody meets your standards; therefore, ALL have earned your wrath?
20. 21.
SF: The question is, how does this compare to 2008 and 2000/2004 (which were almost identical)
“If Obama carried only the same states as Kerry did in 2004, he’s have 246 Electoral votes to Romney’s 292”
“Virginia is not the easiest state of the ones that Kerry failed to carry for a Democrat to win, so a tie in Virginia is still a lead for Obama.
Comment by nk — 7/19/2012 @ 1:41 pm
No, Sammy, it is not a question at all. It is not the same election, it is not the same candidates, and for sure as hell speculation (based on long ago polls) equals masturbation.
I know it’s not identical. It m,ay be a good fiorst start. Not the actual results, but the relative results between different states. Of course some candidates may affect some sattes more than others, and there are demographic and other changes in states. There may be difefernt issues that cut a diufferent way.
Still it is a good way to start an analysis, and 2004 is a good year to look at what states were carried because it was a close e3lection
So here is the map:
http://www.270towin.com/2012_election_predictions.php?mapid=paY
Now if you want to go from that to a Democrat win Virginia is not the deciding state the Democrat needs to carry.
now things change. A good examople is West Virginia, which used to be a very Democratic
state. No longer, because of the gun issue and the coal and tobacco issues.
Theer are trends in a state and different issues still it’;s a way to styart,
First of
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 7/20/2012 @ 1:39 pmLeviticus hates Romney because Romney is like a Kennedy with competence.
SPQR (26be8b) — 7/20/2012 @ 2:21 pm