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6/27/2012

Michelle Malkin And Many Others Evacuated From Homes Due to Wildfires

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:56 am



Offer Michelle your support.

52 Responses to “Michelle Malkin And Many Others Evacuated From Homes Due to Wildfires”

  1. Praying for all those affected by so many fires…

    Sue (ee446c)

  2. One thing’s for sure… Mother Nature can’t be controlled.

    I hope no firefighters are hurt or killed they are the bravest people of all.

    Harrison (975823)

  3. I hope Michelle and her family don’t lose too much from the fires.

    PCD (1d8b6d)

  4. This is clearly Bush’s fault.

    JD (318f81)

  5. JD, not now, ok?

    PCD (1d8b6d)

  6. Sorry

    JD (318f81)

  7. Well, it clearly is the Bushes’ fault. If they weren’t so dry they wouldn’t catch fire…

    Milhouse (312124)

  8. This is the area where I grew up. It has been heartbreaking to see the Facebook posts from my friends, some of whom have been evacuated like Michelle and her family have. These fires happen every year, just like East County San Diego will probably have fires at some point this summer, but I don’t ever remember it being so awful.

    JVW (f28a18)

  9. It’s really the fault of those evil migrant labor exploiting smelt-killing farmers — diverting water in order to ‘feed people’, or some other equally flimsy excuse.

    Icy (58301d)

  10. Yikes.

    Being evacuated for a disaser like this is always stressful and scary. I hope she comes out ok and loses nothing.

    aphrael (af01a5)

  11. Is the USAF Academy safe?

    JD (318f81)

  12. JD, looks like they have partially closed up shop for the time being.

    JVW (f28a18)

  13. Not sure that this is the subject with which to be politically flippant Icy.

    tye (cc30fb)

  14. Patterico, et al, please consider that an appropriate show of your support for Michelle Malkin might be blogging about the Supreme Court decision and the pending contempt vote against AG Eric Holder, both of which are timely.

    No disrespect, just sayin’

    ropelight (286f73)

  15. With all the beetle kill, the fires could be much worse. They need to clean up the fuel of the forest.

    mg (44de53)

  16. Not sure that this is the subject with which to be politically flippant Icy.
    Comment by tye — 6/27/2012 @ 10:59 am

    — This from the same guy that just the other day wrote “Laura Bush aborted someone with her car once”?

    Pot meet kettle.

    Icy (58301d)

  17. I’ve been offering to support Michelle Malkin for years

    If she would just get that dang husband out of the way

    Icy (58301d)

  18. 18-don’t use quotes if it is not an actual verbatim quote

    tye (cc30fb)

  19. ” Laura Bush performed preemptive abortion with her car once”

    — Your royalty check is in the mail.

    Icy (58301d)

  20. Do you mind explaining the context? I believe that was my response to an equally distasteful “joke” about abortion. You know, so that we are all fully informed.

    tye (cc30fb)

  21. I never make jokes about abortion. I make jokes about those people that support it.

    Icy (58301d)

  22. No more thread-jacking. Best wishes to, and prayers for, all of those affected by these devastating fires.

    Icy (58301d)

  23. 23- semantics

    tye (cc30fb)

  24. Icy – please be nice to this fine person, who is only in search of real debate.

    JD (318f81)

  25. If I may bring the thread back to supporting Michelle Malkin, here’s the link she posted for helping out people affected by the fire.

    http://cosprings.craigslist.org/vol/

    CrustyB (69f730)

  26. Another Malkin link details how President Obama cancelled aerial tanker contracts so we have less ability to fight fires like this. If his goal was to save money, it’s a poor decision. It’s like people who cancel their insurance because they don’t want to cut back on cell phone and cable contracts. It seems like a great idea until something goes wrong.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  27. Among my acquaintances, in the last two weeks I’ve friends who have been evacuated from near Eleven Mile Reservoir for one fire (west of the Waldo Canyon fire), from Manitou Springs for the Waldo Canyon fire and from Rist Canyon because of the fire west of Fort Collins.

    I spent most of Saturday and Sunday with truck and trailer helping friends move livestock from south of highway 24 but happily they escaped the fire so far.

    R Dale (b93549)

  28. Hm, so I am assuming the seventeen air tankers overhead are being shared by the other western states the government is also currently providing support to as they fight fires: Alaska, Arizona, California, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Utah and Wyoming. How many tankers would there have been without the cancelled contracts?

    The President reiterated his administration’s focus, through the US Forest Service as well as the Department of Interior and FEMA, on continuing to bring all resources to bear to assist local responders in Colorado and a number of Western States currently being impacted by fires. Seventeen air tankers have cycled in and out of firefighting action over the last 48 hours across the western states.

    Dana (292dcf)

  29. Prayers to Malkin and the great many others hoping their homes survive or trying to recover from their home burning down.

    Dustin (330eed)

  30. Stephen Green has some maps on his Vodkapundit blog if you want to follow the fire’s scope and the evacuation areas.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  31. DRJ – Do you recall the horrible fire that started near Pasadena and spread as never before in recorded history? The powers that be refused to call in early morning tanker planes from Sacramento because…there weren’t any! The contracts had not been renewed! Had they stamped the fire down when they had the chance, death and destruction would have been avoided.

    Have you read of any consequences to the Dept. of Interior or Forest Service? Any sanctions against the agencies of California? Riiiiight.

    This was three short years ago. The Angeles National Forest was nearly wiped out entirely.

    Not a whisper of complaint is to be heard.

    Ed from SFV (68921e)

  32. Comment by JD — 6/27/2012 @ 8:28 am

    This is clearly Bush’s fault.

    Principally yes, because he had the longest time to notice and correct the problem. It was building during his Administration.

    But a lot of the blame also goes to President Obama and the budget cutting (mostly) Republican Congress.

    There are not enough airplanes to fight the fires.

    They’ve been relying on military surplus and there’s less of it. Meanwhile some of the planes on hand, are being cannibalized and also crashing. Newer more expensive planes could be ordered but that requires a huge budget increase.

    Money from the stimulus could have been used, of course, but Obama insisted on wasting that money. It had to go out the door as fast as possible.

    It’s really gotten to a very bad point.

    Global warming of course, or more exactly the sdecret recession in China, adds to the heat. (China has been fudging statistics. Just as much coal is being produced as before but it is now being stored near power plants. Now they are running ourt of stoirage capacity. In China as in the U.S. during the 1930s – there are never any significant conservation effects in China, energy production is very closewely correlated with economic activity. China was hiding oir maybe in denial about a recession. There are not as many factories operating as many hours. Less coal is being burned. This leads to less dust in the atomosphere, which leads to greater heat which leads to these wildfires.

    Anyway it was possible to see this coming.

    Another thing wrong is that exists a foam that can coat houses and protect them even in the middle of a fire. This is not publicized, this is recommended by the government and it should be.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  33. Comment by DRJ — 6/27/2012 @ 2:32 pm

    Another Malkin link details how President Obama cancelled aerial tanker contracts so we have less ability to fight fires like this. If his goal was to save money, it’s a poor decision.

    Did the Republicans in Congress object? And who has been pushing stronmgly for more budget cuts?

    Who has thought that percentage cuts are a good idea?

    because they don’t want to cut back on cell phone and cable contracts. It seems like a great idea until something goes wrong.

    Could be yes. They didn’t understand what definitely could not be cut and needed to be increased.

    Why and how were cell phone and cable contracts in competition?

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  34. Since obama’s presidency has become a dick swinging contest, maybe he can whip it out and douse the fires.

    mg (44de53)

  35. Speaking of “dick swinging contests,” what? Not one word about your pal @Ali Akbar and Karl Rove exchanging backrubs, wearing fuzzy sweaters and long, hot showers?

    The Liberal Grouch (fc8502)

  36. Historically, the various agencies in the Federal government have been hostile to aerial tanker resources. Some of the arguments even make sense, you can’t really effectively fight a fire solely with aerial although the pictures look good on TV. Their main advantage is flexibility but there is a limit to what they can do. The real need is more fire fighting teams, and that’s a place where increasing regulation has made it difficult to cost effectively recruit. We used to use a lot of prison based fire fighting manpower but with stupid Federal regulation that’s become harder.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  37. Liberal Grouch, can you go pollute another thread?

    SPQR (26be8b)

  38. Eff off, grouch. Give Neal and BK a kiss goodnight

    JD (318f81)

  39. Can’t answer the question? Just ad hominems? OK. Just wondering why all the crickets. Jesus, when I asked him to prove his 501(c)(3) status you would have thought I had urinated on a crucifix all the spam hate I got. Now, a website says he and Karl Rove are exchanging backrubs with cocoanut butter, and — Crickets! Whatever, be hypocrites. Machts nichts fur mich.

    The Liberal Grouch (fc8502)

  40. Remember how absolutely nasty Occupy rebellion was in a recent post? Twitter didn’t ban her for that.

    They banned the even worse Liberal Grouch, though.

    ‘Nuff said.

    Dustin (330eed)

  41. Can’t answer the question?

    Your question was a homophobic fantasy about boogeyman Karl Rove and a supporter of Aaron’s freedom.

    Why would anyone take it seriously? We get it. You hate gay people.

    Dustin (330eed)

  42. 37- get off your moms couch and take a shower. With soap.

    mg (44de53)

  43. RE Karl Rove, it’s amusing how he’s such a boogeyman to people who don’t even know who he is.

    For the record, I asked Ali several questions because I wasn’t familiar with him. His reaction was professional. Then again, I asked honest questions instead of smear ‘questions’ from a position of hate (L Grouch’s prior comments in this thread speak for themselves as to this point).

    Since this time I’ve verified he definitely is helping Aaron. I have seen Ali take severe attacks including scum posting a picture of his mom’s house. I’ve also learned that he made some serious mistakes when he was 21 (I think that’s how old he was).

    It’s legit to trust but verify and legit to ask for transparency from charities.

    But it’s not legit to pretend you’re just asking questions as you smear Kimberlin’s critics.

    Dustin (330eed)

  44. Liberal Grouch, do you want a lesson in interim 501(C)(3) status during applications … or are you looking gay bath house references, I can’t tell.

    Now go pollute a different thread because this one ain’t about you Brett Kimberlin crime family members.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  45. Thanks, SPQR, for noting that this troll is trying to take attention away from the topic of the fires in Colorado.

    I should have ignored him.

    Dustin (330eed)

  46. What role, if any, have environmental regulations played in this? In Australia the greens and the regulations and practices they have promoted have caused a lot of damage and death, particularly by discouraging or even banning the clearing of growth from around houses. The Black Saturday bushfires three years ago were much much worse than they should have been, because of this.

    Milhouse (312124)

  47. Environmentalist law suits have played a major role in creating the environment where there is a lot of dead material in the forests that are essentially fuel.

    Take a look at Southern California. We had huge numbers of trees killed by the bark beetle infestations during the 80’s and 90’s. The environmentalists filed lawsuit after lawsuit to stop those dead trees from being cut down because “dead trees may become nests for the XXXXX”. XXXXX changed with the location and what endangered whatever might be in the area, even if none had actually been seen.

    Add to that lawsuits against any form of controlled burns in the forest and against any form of removing low growing vegetation. This led to forests that had been building dead vegetation for as much as 50 years. This was just asking for a major disaster.

    The Witch Creek fire that ran for 30 miles along the U.S. / Mexican border could have been stopped 5 miles before the point when it was eventually stopped. There was a clear fire break that was easily defensible at that point. When I asked one of the Fire Chiefs why they didn’t stop it there, he replied that they had been trying to get permission to do controlled burns on that mountain for 20 years of that he was involved with. This was the perfect excuse to finally burn that mountain since all the assets they could need were already in place.

    Personally, I feel that the people who filed all these lawsuits that helped lead to these major fires should be held financially responsible for the results of their actions. After all, if a corporation did something that could be directly linked to huge disasters down the road, you can be sure the whackos would be clamoring for them to pay for the damage they had caused.

    Jay H Curtis (804124)

  48. 28.

    President Obama cancelled aerial tanker contracts so we have less ability to fight fires like this.

    Really??? Areal refueling of fire tankers and helicopters? I was not aware of this red herring until just now…

    Bravo…

    DSanon (561676)

  49. DSanon, you want to make people think you are an idiot? You know that DRJ wasn’t refering to refueling tankers but fire fighting aircraft. (Some of which are “tankers” in terminology and some of which are not).

    SPQR (26be8b)

  50. my bad…

    but here’s some context on M&M,s bit…

    Malkin didn’t mention where she got some of the figures that appeared in her piece, but many of them appeared just a few days earlier in an exhaustive Denver Post story that examined the complicated debate over what to do about the nation’s air tanker fleet.

    The story said the tankers often have a limited impact on large wildfires and are designed to slow the spread of smaller fires. It also said officials with the U.S. Forest Service, which runs the fleet, believe the number of aircraft they already have is sufficient given the helicopters and smaller planes they use.

    The reporting follows a 2008 investigation by the Los Angeles Times that revealed how the air tankers often do little to quell big fires but cost lots of money and tend to look good on TV. Fire officials told the newspaper they nicknamed the air missions “CNN drops.”

    In essence, Malkin is upset that the socialist scam known as the U.S. Forrest Service is not spending more $ and is not inefficient enough for her personal needs…

    DSanon (561676)


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