Caller to Lee Stranahan Show Claims to Be My Swatter
This was an update to my post about the hoax call that sent police to Erick Erickson’s house — but I think it deserves its own post.
I was on a podcast with Lee Stranahan last night about Kimberlin and the swattings. You can hear it here.
A person claiming to be my swatter called in twice to the show: once at 50:18 and again at about 65 minutes in. I was on the show and the person claiming to be the swatter addressed me directly, twice. He called me “buddy,” mocked me for having been swatted, laughed at me repeatedly, and mocked Michelle Malkin for the situation where her cousin is missing. He asked me what it was like to be swatted, and absurdly claimed that he was present that night, watching me led out in handcuffs.
It was like some awful B movie you see on the USA Network late at night.
Joe Brooks put up the two calls from last night, together with the New Jersey swatting call, my swatting call, and Ron Brynaert’s voice. Here is the audio, beginning with last night’s calls. The audio from last night is from 0:00 to 1:25. The New Jersey swatting call is from 1:25 to 4:32. My swatting call is from 4:32 to 5:05. Brynaert’s voice starts at 5:05.
The voice of the caller to Lee’s show sounds quite a bit like the voice from the New Jersey swatting call. It also sounds somewhat like the voice at the beginning of the swatting call that sent police to my house.
It seems logical that, if last night’s call was the swatter, it was the swatter speaking in a disguised voice. Why would someone call in to a radio show, speaking in their own normal recognizable voice, and confess to being the swatter? Wouldn’t they be worried that someone would hear it and turn them in? Especially with the story threatening to turn national after what happened to Erickson?
Logically, last night’s caller had to be speaking in a disguised voice.
Why do that? And why do it now?
I will also point out that it is my opinion and the opinion of the forensic audio expert, Kent Gibson, that the caller on my swatting call sounds like he is disguising his voice at the beginning of my call — but not necessarily at the end. As Gibson explains:
The Frey Swat call exhibits a change in vocal quality partway through the call. It is likely the speaker was trying to disguise his voice at the beginning of the call.
That is a fact that people should keep in mind as they analyze this. When you are comparing the voice to Brynaert’s, you shouldn’t compare the part where the swatter is trying to disguise his voice. The end of the audio clip above has what sounds more like the genuine voice of the swatter at 4:56. That’s the part where the caller seems to get rattled by the dispatcher’s questions — and where it seems likely that you are hearing the true voice of the swatter. Brooks combines that with the voice of Ron Brynaert at 5:05.
So if you want the best possible comparison, start the clip at 4:56 and let it play to the end.
Also remember that the same audio expert has already opined that Brynaert is the probable voice of both my swatting call and the New Jersey swatting call. For more details, read my original post on the harassment other Kimberlin critics and I have suffered at the hands of Brynaert, Neal Rauhauser, and Brett Kimberlin.
Two questions come to mind as you review these supremely creepy audio clips:
First: why did the caller make that call now? What does he have to gain?
And second: why did Erick Erickson get swatted last night?
UPDATE: The address in Joe Brooks’s clip is not mine or Mike Stack’s. It’s the address that the swatter believed was Mike Stack’s address.
It is also the address Neal Rauhauser believed was Mike Stack’s. Several months ago, Rauhauser uploaded a cease and desist letter to Stack, addressed to Stack at 30 Mallard Court, Three Bridges, New Jersey.
Above: two screenshots from the beginning and end of a letter from Neal Rauhauser to Mike Stack
That is the (incorrect) address given by the New Jersey swatter to police.
Are we having fun yet?
Patterico (feda6b) — 5/28/2012 @ 2:08 amI love your counterpunching, Patterico.
mg (44de53) — 5/28/2012 @ 2:58 amPatterico, pardon me if I’m being somehow naive, but why isn’t the “SWATting” incident that happened to you being aggressively investigated by, well… the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office? I mean, you are still a Deputy DA, right? And aren’t stalking, filing false police reports, etc., still illegal in Los Angeles?
Of course, if that’s something you can’t talk about in public, I’d totally understand.
Hayabusa (515f43) — 5/28/2012 @ 3:15 amI’m surprised the FBI isn’t more interested – are they aware the whole thing tracks back to the Speedway Bomber case?
Estragon (ec6a4b) — 5/28/2012 @ 3:19 amHe sounds high.
To be honest.
MayBee (2f6e35) — 5/28/2012 @ 3:44 amAnd nervous, thus the constant “buddy”.
MayBee (2f6e35) — 5/28/2012 @ 3:49 amWho knows if it’s him or a griefer.
You’re asking questions about why someone would logically do x.
But logic doesn’t apply to those who are already crazy. The only thing inexplicable is the lack of law enforecement.
Turk (ef3fe5) — 5/28/2012 @ 3:52 amHayabusa,
Patterico would not abuse his office. Also, when I interned at the Cook County State’s Attorney, our investigators carried guns. But their job was to investigate the filed court cases, not to be our private detectives. Patterico did the right thing, going to the right authorities. They did not want to spend resources because of law enforcement triage? It just wasn’t that important?
nk (875f57) — 5/28/2012 @ 3:54 amI suppose the upside is that crazy people eventually expose their crazy enough to get picked up. The downside is that someone is going to get hurt or dead before law enforcement finally unasses their chairs and gets on to going after the crazy hateful criminal people.
Vivian Louise (f148a0) — 5/28/2012 @ 4:08 amMy father has this theory that there are more people than souls at present. He believes that this explains some of the horrific behavior we see in our world.
Either that was your swatter being very stupid, or it was a grown man being cruel for no good reason (not just being nasty to you, but going after Michelle Malkin).
Either way, the caller had no decency or soul.
Simon Jester (c28b9c) — 5/28/2012 @ 4:19 amHow would it be an “abuse of his office” to investigate a crime? The District Attorney’s office does investigate and prosecute crimes, right? Just because he’s the victim here doesn’t make the conduct any less criminal.
I’m not trying to be argumentative here, I’m just trying to fully understand this situation.
Hayabusa (515f43) — 5/28/2012 @ 4:19 amMaybe the caller will be dumb enough to post on blogs, leaving more of a record for analysis.
Simon Jester (c28b9c) — 5/28/2012 @ 4:21 amIt’s a tension. How much protection you want, how much control over your life you want?
nk (875f57) — 5/28/2012 @ 4:22 amHayabusa,
Did you read my comment? Patterico did exactly the right thing.
nk (875f57) — 5/28/2012 @ 4:33 amBut logic doesn’t apply to those who are already crazy. The only thing inexplicable is the lack of law enforecement.
Comment by Turk — 5/28/2012 @ 3:52 am
^^^This^^^
These are wounded animals now. All bets are off.
creeper (f1f686) — 5/28/2012 @ 4:57 amAfter listening to the audio from all several times, I keep going back to 3 little words that were spoken…and they sound like the same voice, same enunciation, etc…I’m no expert, but it’s very evident when played side by side.
Hal (b20c05) — 5/28/2012 @ 5:28 am“why did Erick Erickson get swatted last night?”
People have been known to get killed being swatted. While the chances are low it has happened.
patrick (b02fe3) — 5/28/2012 @ 6:02 amMichelle Malkins cousin? This should trigger certain responses from Law Enforcement. This person should be waay up the ladder now – or persons –
EricPWJohnson (0f0a26) — 5/28/2012 @ 6:07 amWhy did he call in and why did he swat Erick? Because he’s a sociopath and he gets off on it. These people aren’t crazy,they ARE dangerous and their behavior WILL escalate.
Read:
akw (47075e) — 5/28/2012 @ 6:25 amhttp://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html
http://www.sociopathworld.com/p/portrait-of-sociopath.html
So does anyone still think the guy is Bryneart? Bryneart had a major coniption fit and truckloads of butthurt over Pat’s previous posts & everyone blog about Kimberlin day when folks were tying him to the swats.
If it is Bryneart that’s still doing this, either the man is very crazy or very stupid or very both.
John Difool (4251ee) — 5/28/2012 @ 7:00 amIt is pretty obvious that as long as Eric Holder is Attorney General there will be no federal prosecution in these cases even if the swatting calls were made across state lines.
That is why the only real way to discourage this sort of behavior is to get the statute of limitations increased to something like 30 years. The perpetrators can’t count on their political party being in office for all of that time and over the next few years it is likely that advancements in technology will make voice identification from recordings as positive and reliable as DNA evidence.
At that point, prosecution of these people becomes cheap and easy – something that new hires and interns can do. It will also be an easy way for a prosecutor’s office to run up the numbers on convictions in order to look good.
Mark in Texas (fcec59) — 5/28/2012 @ 7:06 am________________________________________________
That is a fact that people should keep in mind as they analyze this.
Beyond that, I recall reading awhile back that people who make a 911 call that is used inappropriately may be charged — if only through sort of an anti-nuisance fee — by local authorities. So the hoax calls to police departments can’t be tracked and then the callers cited for illegal activity? Even more so in this age of instant caller ID?
Considering the Internet and high-tech modern communication in general, when keeping one’s privacy is harder than ever before, it’s surprising that troublemakers possibly can still use the phone for malicious intent and get away with it. Then again, all the fraud that continues to plague the credit-card industry proves that where there’s a will, there’s a way.
Mark (e3ff81) — 5/28/2012 @ 7:07 amPatterico probably knows this but the address is not bleeped out on the recording linked above. I assume he has done this consciously but just wanted to point it out in case it is an oversight.
Voluble (6bfee6) — 5/28/2012 @ 7:09 amWhy are you calling this swatting? You and Erick both affirm there were no SWAT teams involved– just sherifs deputies.
wheelers_cat (e53467) — 5/28/2012 @ 7:19 amWhy are you calling this swatting? You and Erick both affirm there were no SWAT teams involved– just sherifs deputies.
Perhaps because they’re not petty quibblers? Also, from Wikipedia:
geoff (4febc3) — 5/28/2012 @ 7:24 amI disagree. The reason has to be some kind of misdirection. For those who have followed this story, misdirection has appeared to be Ron/Brett/Neal’s absolute top priority. If the same group is responsible for the Erickson swatting, they may think that something about the way they swatted Erickson will distort matters. They are cruel and they do get off on human misery, but I think they also intend to project blame for their behavior.
I have no idea why this is supposed to suggest he didn’t do it. And yes, I am 100% convinced he swatted Patterico. And yeah, there is something extremely crazy and stupid about Brynaert. Why in the world would Brynaert need to tweet that he wants to punch Patterico, while referencing the Kimberlin bombing conviction? What kind of argument is it to say he wants to shit on Patterico’s wife or sew her mouth to Patterico’s ass?
And Brynaert can be extremely stupid about how he claims he’s doing one thing while doing the exact opposite. He would smear everything Patterico wrote as the work of ‘hackers’ while insisting he’s helping Patterico. He smeared Aaron and also claimed he was helping Aaron.
Hell: Ron said his intention was not to out Aaron Worthing, and two minutes later he was the one who most publicly outed Aaron Worthing. He also was the most public smearer of Aaron, taking it as fact that Brett Kimberlin’s accusations were true. This was after other Brett claims were proven untrue. Ron would dismiss high levels of evidence for claims that go against Brett’s narrative, but take for fact claims that had no evidence but the word of a con man and perjurer.
Obviously Ron did not have much concern for his own reputation, then. His priorities are otherwise.
Ron also had a major conniption fit when Aaron sent him an ordinary settlement offer, threatening to go to the police to report blackmail. In my opinion, Ron’s major conniption fits are not in good faith.
[Released from filter.]
Dustin (330eed) — 5/28/2012 @ 7:24 amnk
ADA in NY (1cc7ca) — 5/28/2012 @ 7:34 amPatrick works in a dangerous field (Gang crime) where threats and retribution are common. Without running down that spoofed call there is no way of telling whether or not the SWATting was related to his work. If this happened in my office our investigators sure as hell would have been all over this. The only concern I can see is the possibility of an accusation of favoritism and being a blogger as well as a prosecutor perhaps Patrick chose to pursue a different direction. However,in the present environment relying on the feds to vet a threat to a “conservative” blogger may not have been the wisest course.
@ADA in NY.
However Erickson was also swatted and he’s not involved in gang crime. He’s a prominent right wing blogger who’s profession wouldn’t be considered dangerous until now.
No idea what the profession of the person who was swatted in New Jersey is.
John Difool (4251ee) — 5/28/2012 @ 7:40 amHe’s not in law enforcement. He was involved with the Weinergate discussion.
Dustin (330eed) — 5/28/2012 @ 7:43 amFolks, things have just moved several notches past truly weird.
W. J. J. Hoge (60267b) — 5/28/2012 @ 7:43 amPeople have often asked what exactly are some of the provocative things that an Alinskyite community organizer does.
Now we know.
Elephant Stone (0ae97d) — 5/28/2012 @ 7:45 amWhy are you calling this swatting? You and Erick both affirm there were no SWAT teams involved– just sherifs deputies.
Comment by wheelers_cat
Gets to the crux of the issue, as usual… sarcasm\off
Colonel Haiku (46b423) — 5/28/2012 @ 7:48 am“Why are you calling this swatting? You and Erick both affirm there were no SWAT teams involved– just sherifs deputies.”
So you don’t think that sheriffs deputies all hopped up on adrenaline and expecting to come onto a scene with a suspected shooter and a whole lot of carnage can’t potentially draw their service weapons and kill you?
John Difool (4251ee) — 5/28/2012 @ 7:52 amWhat did Lee’s caller ID show? The caller must have been listening to the podcast live. I assume there weren’t many people (hundreds?) listening to the podcast live. Did Lee harvest all the listeners’ IP addresses?
gp (5a38d9) — 5/28/2012 @ 7:54 amYes, you’re absolutely right.
In fact, I think SWAT teams are better trained on when to shoot and when to not shoot, as well as better protected, and I’m not sure a SWAT team would have been more dangerous than the kind of response Patterico got. Regardless, what Patterico went through was horrifying and I can only imagine what it must have been like sitting restrained in a police car, looking towards his child’s bedroom, praying.
It angers me that Wheeler’s Cat is dissembling about it, but that’s what the troll was hoping to do. Now we’re talking about a blog comment instead of the larger issue. Mission accomplished for Nishi.
Difool, interpret my responses to you as polite disagreement. I think Brynaert’s reactions need to be read in context of someone who has been behaving a certain way for many months. Not at face value.
Dustin (330eed) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:01 am@ Dustin
Polite disagreement noted, i just wanted to know everyone’s opinion on if they still thought the guy making the calls is Bryneart.
As far as behaving a certain way for months, yep, the guy is unhinged and nutty as a squirrel and shows no signs of letting up.
John Difool (4251ee) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:11 amIt’s fun to imagine Ron sitting by his play station VoIP with a clothespin on his nose. Perhaps LE will get to the bottom of it.
P’s and MS’s swats were preceded by a caller to one of Lees blogtalk radio shows last summer – same voice, it goes on at length…
Sarahw (b0e533) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:14 amI had a neighbor who is on FBI SWAT. (Our respective daughters are the same age and classmates.) He has his head on straight. I trust him with a machine gun. And he does not feel a need to carry a gun (shoot somebody) when he comes to pick up his daughter from school.
I have a lot of respect for the police, generally. One time, I was “lent” two detectives in a childnapping. They kicked down a door for me. I met them, later, in drug court. They were there for the initial hearing. I was defending. We set together and complained about how slow the judge was moving his call.
nk (875f57) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:17 amI think these follow up calls, however, are more likely to be the usual phony alibi. Bk St all haven’t varied the play book that much in 30 years. VoIP is newer but the rest remains the same .
Sarahw (b0e533) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:21 amIt’s important to point out that ‘SWATting’ is attempted (potentially) Murder-By-Cop.
In this day and age of cutesy acronyms – Twitter, Twitchy, spam, spoof – it all comes across to the layman as just more shenanigans, nothing serious. I see people shrug their shoulders, not comprehending what is going on here. If they DID…
And, the importance of the ‘spoofing’ in this case cannot be emphasized enough. This is deep, clandestine, calculated, planned, orchestrated malice.
Rose (45e671) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:23 amWe have VOIP. It recognizes our phone and tells us how much money we have in our account. When we dial my mother-in-law, it tells us how many minutes we have. This stuff is so easy to trace.
nk (875f57) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:25 amJust one observation that isn’t really my original thought, but one I think makes a lot of sense.
If Ron was Swatting Patterico but needed to finish that hoax call very quickly in order to get back to the phone call with Patterico, it makes sense that he would get frustrated with the dispatcher challenging him. I think that’s what happened in the latter part of the ‘Lomita Sheriff’s Station’ call. He got into a rush and failed to maintain the faked voice.
I can imagine putting on a goofy voice and then trying to pretend I’m not me, and then getting frustrated and making an outburst like the swatter did with ‘I DID IT!’ which reveals what I normally sound like.
Dustin (330eed) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:28 amNk – nope.
SarahW (b0e533) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:29 amI am leaning to the squid ink explanation, but who knows.
Maybe Ron does have an evil twin or brother as I used to joke. Don’t know that much about his meatspace existence.
Ron did the first two, I have virtually no doubt.
Reposting this from a comment at filmladd since I am lazy:
SarahW (b0e533) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:39 am“Murder-By-Cop” How common is it that the wrong people get killed by LE 911 emergency response? Not very, I would guess. Are there actual stats on this?
Don’t discount the other consequences of swatting: diversion of resources from real emergencies, increased $ costs, distress of the victims. These alone make swatting a despicable crime that should be investigated and prosecuted.
Does anybody else hear a hint of Asperger’s in the swatter’s voice? He is unskilled at impromptu witty repartee, to say the least.
gp (0c542c) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:39 amAnother Joe Brooks audio comparison.
Does the caller to Stranahan last night sound like he’s doing an impersonation of the swatter?
The 6.22.11 caller to Stranahan sounds like the actual swatter.
Also, Joe, if you’re reading, I would prefer if you muted Mike’s address. It is an excellent comparison point for the voice… in my opinion the best comparison point in that call, but it’s also his private information.
Dustin (330eed) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:40 amI am a retired prosecutor in Fla. and, quite frankly, don’t understand LA County. If I, or any of my co-workers had been subjected to what Mr. P. has been, the elected State Attorney would have had every senior LEO in the area in his office, including the FBI SAC, demanding action. I feel confident that the other State Attorneys in Fla. would act the same. Over the years, we have had several prosecutors killed in the line of duty and we all, statewide, moved heaven and earth to solve those cases.
DickS (fe5cd9) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:42 am“Why are you calling this swatting? You and Erick both affirm there were no SWAT teams involved– just sherifs deputies.”
So you would like a specific term for each and every law enforcement agency to designate when they do something similiar to swatting?
Or are you just trying to dilute the issue because you feel a need to be contrary?
Why are carbon credits given for carbon dioxide issues. The policy perps were looking for an easy way to communicate an issue. The definition that sticks will be the one that works for the most people.
jd2 (40a8c6) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:42 am“Don’t discount the other consequences of swatting: diversion of resources from real emergencies, increased $ costs, distress of the victims. These alone make swatting a despicable crime that should be investigated and prosecuted.”
And don’t discount these other consequences of swatting too: Traumatizing ones children & spouses and neighbors and possibly making them viewed as pariahs and danegers in their own neighborhoods.
John Difool (4251ee) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:52 amlisten for the functional truth of a person. nothing will disguise it. All their upfront words might be a concise fortress, but the people close to them, their dreams, their actions will leak the truth for everyone to see. this type of thinking will lead to a perversion and a compulsion in the person and their consciousness will start to swing like a pendulum. You just wait to catch them on the swing towards you. Suggest the truth to them when you listen to them. Suggest it in a positive way not in an accusatory one. The doubts will creep in and the dishonest person will find themselves tripping over their shoelaces.
Astute listeners will hear them falling. Throw a symbol at them if the work is just a mental interaction. All criminals are suggestive as they try to hold a deception for so long they get out of touch with reality.
Some of them end up in a church to make up for their sins.
jd2 (40a8c6) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:55 amDifool makes an excellent point.
Now, when Patterico or Aaron or RSM or Erickson talk about Brett Kimberlin, they have to balance the needs of their loved ones and neighbors against telling a truth that could trigger attacks.
And do does everyone else. Everyone has to ask themselves ‘is telling the truth worth my kids or my husband or my mom being harassed?’
Thank God Lee Stranahan had the idea of Everyone Blog about Brett Kimberlin Day. That made a huge difference, as now the odds of being attacked for writing the truth are much lower on an individual basis.
Dustin (330eed) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:56 amNk – nope.
Comment by SarahW — 5/28/2012 @ 8:29 am
It could depend on the jurisdiction. Twelve years ago, I could call Chicago’s 311 for a non-emergency, such as a car alarm outside my window, and the transfer would be “anonymous”. A police officer would show up. Not anymore. Now, a dead cat in the alley is still ok with 311. Anything that requires police or fire must be 911 and your phone is identified and located to the inch. Resources?
nk (875f57) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:56 amSee all the news reporters with twisted smiles? there is a reason for that. occupational hazard.
jd2 (40a8c6) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:58 amAnd someone who trolls faces the same inner task. Just on a smaller scale.
jd2 (40a8c6) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:59 amAs Ace of Spades has been noting, it’s not an occupational hazard for those who aren’t doing their job on this. There are many who just won’t cover this because they won’t take on that hazard. As Ace noted, that’s actually why they MUST cover this story. That’s what they should have been going to journalism school for.
Dustin (330eed) — 5/28/2012 @ 9:00 amNk – some of these calls are coming into business lines – I don’t know what the case is with the Erikson call.
However, it’s a known security hole.
SarahW (b0e533) — 5/28/2012 @ 9:04 amThe calls, when done carefully, are impossible to trace in real time, and difficult to trace after the fact.
It used to be that non-military GPS was three yards off, but it was changed to be exact (Rumsfeld?) for, ostensibly the benefit of the handicapped. But it also benefits law enforcement. I am a little behind on this, but there are court cases about the FBI tracking turned off cell phones. If they care, they’ll find you.
nk (875f57) — 5/28/2012 @ 9:05 am@Dustin
Yep, the secondary collateral damage is a bonus for the person/people doing these attacks. Even if you don’t manage to get your target shot & killed it still has the effect of traumatizing loved ones, neighbors and possibly co-workers.
They know they won’t be able to get Pat, Erickson, McCain & Aaron to shut up, because they make a living talking and in Pat’s case he makes a living talking to get violent people put behind bars, but if they can get to their families….well, maybe that’s how they can get to them.
We’ve already seen McCain forced to relocate his family practically overnight over this and I seriously doubt it was because he was thinking about his own self preservation.
John Difool (4251ee) — 5/28/2012 @ 9:07 amComment by SarahW — 5/28/2012 @ 9:04 am
😉 I have dealt with “the tree”.
nk (875f57) — 5/28/2012 @ 9:08 amof course, GPS doesn’t track things. Thinks that receive GPS or cell phone tower IDs are tracking themselves.
And Neal has experience with telecommunications equipment.
We are relying on their equipment to track itself. I do not think that is going to work. I think it’s possible that a proxy could yield an IP address, and that could be another proxy, but it too could yield one, and eventually you have at least a location (which could be someone’s unsecured wifi hotspot, or a hacked WEP hotspot, or a free wifi business, but at least you get some geographical info).
I was hoping that someone would search some hard drives for evidence from the other end of things. I think the swatters probably recorded a lot of what they did and laughed it up while reliving their crime.
Dustin (330eed) — 5/28/2012 @ 9:09 am@Dustin —
Mike Stack’s audio comes directly from his blog. He doesn’t censor the address either.
Joe Brooks (a60bae) — 5/28/2012 @ 9:17 amThanks, Joe. I didn’t realize that. I withdraw my request, then, of course.
Dustin (330eed) — 5/28/2012 @ 9:19 amI’ve listened to both suspected swatting callers and honestly I think its the first guy (can’t remember his name off the top of my head- in cahoots with Kimberlin). This guy is way to nasily to match the Swatting calls at face value. While there are easy ways to make that happen though, if he had given specific info in the call then I’d be more likely to think differently. This schmuck is a troll.
Bonster (c4653d) — 5/28/2012 @ 9:30 amChecked your smart phone, Dustin? You have free GPS. And the NSA has had the capability to monitor every telephone call since 1965. It’s just, if they, the “they”, want to bother.
I don’t mind. If they want to hear me talking to my first wife about my daughter’s earache I would actaully appreciate their advice. 😉
Patterico should have gotten better service.
nk (875f57) — 5/28/2012 @ 9:33 amPattrico, you startled Kimberlin’s little crew of malicious cockroaches when you turned on the lights, and that ugly dumbass who called-in was so panicked he pissed all over himself.
You’ve done exactly the right thing: put these diseased little dung eaters in the cross-hairs.
The bright light of national exposure and the focused attention of thousands of blog savvy vigilantes should have these cowardly domestic terrorists striped naked and exposed for the malicious criminals they are in surprisingly short order. It’s impressive work.
ropelight (4572c1) — 5/28/2012 @ 9:38 amhey, ropelight.
The clown sounded drunk to me.
nk (875f57) — 5/28/2012 @ 9:42 amThe swatter doesn’t look at Patterico’s post the same way we do. Obviously he’s not shocked at the pain this caused Patterico and his family because he did it on purpose and wanted this result. He might even read Patterico’s post as an affirmation. After all, it told the swatter the investigation was inconclusive and told the world what he had done.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 5/28/2012 @ 9:45 amAs Patterico asks, the real question is why do it again. Because you got away with it before, or is it part of a larger plan?
DRJ (a83b8b) — 5/28/2012 @ 9:46 amNo, the civilian signal is still at 10′ accuracy. It’s inherent in that signal, and you can’t get any more accuracy without some clever tricks.
What you’re thinking of was the “dither” that used to be added to the civilian signal. It made the signal only accurate to within 100′ or worse. It was switched off late in the Clinton administration, but can be turned back on regionally if the DoD thinks it’s necessary.
(The more accurate military signal is encrypted, and the encryption key changes regularly. You need special hardware *AND* an up-to-date key to use it.)
Rob Crawford (d8dade) — 5/28/2012 @ 9:50 amThese cockroaches are emboldened by the fact that they’ve not been caught yet.
SPQR (26be8b) — 5/28/2012 @ 9:51 am“As Patterico asks, the real question is why do it again. Because you got away with it before, or is it part of a larger plan?”
The other question is, who’s next?
John Difool (4251ee) — 5/28/2012 @ 9:52 amEverything you’re saying is true, nk. Particularly your conclusion.
Because I believe the swatter is affiliated with Neal, I think they did not use a cell phone at all. Such phones do track their whereabouts in two ways, one of which being a GPS receiver and the other being cell phone towers (which are designed to provide location).
But that doesn’t mean there weren’t leads that could have yielded great information had they been followed.
Dustin (330eed) — 5/28/2012 @ 9:55 amso we’re looking for a Pauly Shore fan
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 5/28/2012 @ 9:58 amHey Dust, just wanted to say your tribute piece over on your blog about Carl Delong was very moving and touching.
To say I got misty eyed when I read it Friday is an understatement.
John Difool (4251ee) — 5/28/2012 @ 10:01 amThis is a summary of the SWATting situation and concise action-guide you may find interesting.
Random (fba0b1) — 5/28/2012 @ 10:03 amComment by Rob Crawford — 5/28/2012 @ 9:50 am
Thank you.
nk (875f57) — 5/28/2012 @ 10:06 amFrom a 2008 Wired piece on phone hacking.
geoffb (1f4c30) — 5/28/2012 @ 10:14 amRandom, thanks for the link. Michelle Malkin’s action plan is right on-target. She’s got more brains and more courage than most of the conservative talkers on radio and TV put together. I’m a big fan.
ropelight (4572c1) — 5/28/2012 @ 10:17 amBecause you get away with it, because it’s part of a larger plan, or because they want you to know they can still bring harm to you and your family? They still have an edge of control because of their anonymity and lack of law enforcement putting pressure on them.
Another thought is this could be a distraction as they plan a swat on someone else. Erickson earlier last night, Patterico while on the radio, who knows who’s next…which keeps people jumpy and looking over their shoulders.
For someone sick like BK who has not been successful in life and has apparently been dependent on a wealthy aunt, his power and control in life has manifest itself in a purely hateful and destructive way. Why wouldn’t his minions be equally like-minded, sociopath-like scum? Power and control and a few sick laughs along the way. They are the ones in the driver seat, so to speak, as they keep their targets off balance and wary.
The pressing question for me is and remains, whose bidding are they doing?
Dana (4eca6e) — 5/28/2012 @ 10:18 amropelight, there are a lot of things I disagree with Michelle about, chiefly religion and social issues, but I agree with everything you said about her: smart and brave.
Random (fba0b1) — 5/28/2012 @ 10:22 amThanks. I admit I got emotional when writing it. Friday was very successful at making a failure of Brett’s attempt to silence criticism. I am proud to have been part of it, and really appreciate Lee Stranahan’s awesome idea.
Dustin (330eed) — 5/28/2012 @ 10:40 amSeems a little like Weinergate II with people coming out of the woodwork and a new campaign of intimidation starting to cloud issues. The timing is certainly very curious given the BK publicity and our knowledge of the people involved.
Are there new provable legal claims which can be made at his point against the individual speech suppressors or just stuff that would sound crazy in court, much like BK’s filings.
More sunlight needs to be shined on the slugs, but I would be wary of a Weinergate II disinfo campaign.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 5/28/2012 @ 10:47 am“your tribute piece over on your blog about Carl Delong was very moving and touching. To say I got misty eyed when I read it Friday is an understatement.”
Dustin – I completely agree and have been remiss in not saying anything about it. I thought it was great that it was highlighted and got prominence on memeorandum, hopefully diving up the number of page views. The fact that DeLong was a vet made your piece a great way to begin Memorial Day weekend and remind us as Mr. Feets would say about what it said in the brochure about this country.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 5/28/2012 @ 10:53 amdaley, to what end? Weiner was a sitting congressman who was forced to step down in spite of all the attempts to defame Breitbart, etc. because he admitted to his actions. IOW, again, whose bidding is this group doing, and what if anything, are they attempting to protect that person from? There are so many questions…
Dana (4eca6e) — 5/28/2012 @ 10:54 am“daley, to what end?”
Dana – Who knows? If you read any of the low wattage lefty blogs, they claim this is a right/left dispute because they’ve never heard of Kimberlin, because if he were somebody important they are so connected, of course they would have heard of him. Weinergate Truther Joe Canon just views this as an extension of last year.
Just picture yourself in court answering questions from a judge. What evidence do you have that these calls to workplaces, the police, etc. are all connected to writing about BK? It is all circumstantial your honor.
I’m not questioning the overall pattern, but there needs to be something hard.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 5/28/2012 @ 11:03 amThese 3 SWATs went down without violence.
But what happens when the call is made on a person who’s drunk, or has had a bad day, or doesn’t know what to do when the police say to freeze?
Some people, when drunk, or hyped up watching a fight on TV, for example (choose your own example) are just a small provocation away from an explosion. 20 armed cops at the door could be met with more than what happened the other 3 times. And if the cops think that the person has already killed someone…that situation could get very volatile, very quickly.
Sam (c3bcee) — 5/28/2012 @ 11:04 am@daleyrocks
+10,000
I know the point of Friday was to draw attention to Kimberlin & his associates current terror campaign against the living but that was the best piece I read all day and like daleyrocks said very fitting to kick off the Memorial Day holiday.
That Kimberlin only spent a mere what?-14 or 17 years in prison for what he did to the Delong family to me is a travesty & miscarriage of justice. That this preening arrogant asshole hasn’t paid one red-cent to the widow Delong and continues to walk free is an abomination to justice.
John Difool (4251ee) — 5/28/2012 @ 11:09 amTwo questions come to mind as you review these supremely creepy audio clips:
First: why did the caller make that call now? What does he have to gain?
And second: why did Erick Erickson get swatted last night?
Assuming the Whole series of events is in fact designed to intimidate Conservative Bloggers, the rationale for the otherwise seemingly illogical components would quite simply be to increase the gross fear factor per se. In other words, when it comes to “winning” Totalitarian Control, anything goes!
JPeden (fa7ab0) — 5/28/2012 @ 11:24 am@JPeden
I don’t believe this is so much being done to intimidate conservative bloggers as much as it is to get revenge at Weiner being taken down.
Well at least by the Weiner-Truthers anyway. Kimberlin on the other hand probably wants revenge too, but I ‘m in the mindset he’s scared shiftless of losing his non-profit cash-cow when his past gets brought up and losing whatever influence he has on the left. Guy probably lives in fear of the proper authorities scouring the books of his supposed non-profit which is why he’s waging his part of the intimidation/terror campaign.
Bryneart’s probably getting paid with money skimmed off the top for being his knee-capper.
John Difool (4251ee) — 5/28/2012 @ 11:35 amJohn Difool is no fool at all.
Dustin (330eed) — 5/28/2012 @ 11:37 amSeriously. Those are all great observations.
Dustin (330eed) — 5/28/2012 @ 11:37 amBut I just rolled my eyes at my own pun. Sorry about that one.
Dustin (330eed) — 5/28/2012 @ 11:38 am@Dustin
LOL, John Difool is my Internet nom de plume. He was actually the original Korben Dallas before Luc Besson ripped off the stories from The Incal Light series of graphic novels, changed all of the names and made it into The Fifth Element.
John Difool (4251ee) — 5/28/2012 @ 11:45 amI would also look for signs of harassment back to the Fall of 2009 after the James O’Keefe ACORN videos were released and Patterico locked horns with BK buddy Brad Friedman.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 5/28/2012 @ 11:56 amSomeone on Twitter pointed out that they must be on Twitter following everything because of how the message went out for the radio show.
I think the bad guys are “all in” at this point. This makes them really dangerous, but I think it might lead to their downfall as well.
Noodles (3681c4) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:06 pmRemember in comparing these audios that various phones will affect a voice in different ways. One might pick up the “nasally” aspect of a voice while another could smooth it out. Some phones register higher frequencies well and others miss them. Same with lower.
But there’s an inherent “personality” (timber, tone, resonance, etc.) in every voice and it comes through no matter the phone and even in spite of attempts to disguise it.
I’ve listened to all of the audios. After earning my living for thirty years on the phone and in broadcasting I can say that I would bet the farm it’s the same person on all. FWIW
creeper (f1f686) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:06 pmI think the next step is to hear the Erickson’s SWATer’s phone call. It could be just one person doing all of this and escalating their targets as they keep getting away with this.
the405 (18da29) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:07 pmThanks, creeper. I think it’s very helpful when those who have an ear for these things chime in.
Dustin (330eed) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:08 pmIt’s not his address.
It is the address Neal Rauhauser thought Mike Stack lived at, though. I am in possession of a cease and desist letter Rauhauser uploaded to Scribd, addressed to Stack at 30 Mallard Court.
Perhaps that’s worth a post.
Patterico (feda6b) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:08 pmOr an update.
Patterico (feda6b) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:09 pmAnd it’s someone’s address, so perhaps it’s best if that be muted even if Mike did not mute it.
Dustin (330eed) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:09 pmPatterico, ah now that’s what we call evidence …
SPQR (26706b) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:10 pmthe405, that would be helpful, but don’t be surprised if such evidence is not disclosed quickly. Maybe it will be, but perhaps the investigation of that crime will not divulge their best evidence for a period of weeks or months.
Dustin (330eed) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:10 pmMany people lost interest in the Weinergate business once the congressman resigned, even though that was only a small part of the larger story. It just all became too difficult for their brains to sort out–too many characters–too much intrigue–too many moving parts–too much complexity for journalists and even bloggers to reduce to an article or a soundbite, or for casual readers to process.
Perhaps I’m misreading the tea leaves, but it’s starting to feel like the current situation with Patterico and others is trending toward being pushed or blown into an eerily familiar and similar it’s too haaard direction. The focus needs to be kept sharp and the essential goals kept simple in the wake of purposeful distractions and the appearance of mazes which tempt exploration, but all too likely are going to lead nowhere.
elissa (a350d9) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:13 pm“Why are you calling this swatting?”
Because that’s what it’s called.
Dopey.
Dave Surls (46b08c) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:18 pmelissa – GMTA. See #80.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:18 pmDid you see this post Patterico? http://badjournalist.blogspot.com/2012/05/happy-weinerversary.html
Noodles (3681c4) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:19 pmUPDATE: The address in Joe Brooks’s clip is not mine or Mike Stack’s. It’s the address that the swatter believed was Mike Stack’s address.
It is also the address Neal Rauhauser believed was Mike Stack’s. Several months ago, Rauhauser uploaded a cease and desist letter to Stack, addressed to Stack at 30 Mallard Court, Three Bridges, New Jersey.
Above: screenshots from letter from Neal Rauhauser to Mike Stack
That is the (incorrect) address given by the New Jersey swatter to police.
Patterico (feda6b) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:20 pmI know, but it’s also evidence. People need to be able to see with their own eyes, and hear with their own ears, that the address the swatter believes was Stack’s — was the same address Rauhauser believed was Stack’s.
Even though it wasn’t.
Patterico (feda6b) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:21 pmKimberlin was stalking Karl Rove as recently as 2007. Go to the Brad Blog and do a search ” Karl Rove Goes Memorial Day Shopping”
He confronted him and then snapped a pic of it.
John Difool (4251ee) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:21 pmFunny how that works, huh? (The address thing, I mean.)
Patterico (feda6b) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:24 pm“Funny how that works, huh? (The address thing, I mean.)”
Patterico – The swatter and Rauhauser probably found the address at different places at the same time purely by coincidence or something.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:27 pmFunny how a criminal screw up screws up? Yep, Patterico, that’s what they do sooner or later.
SPQR (26706b) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:28 pmMr. Neal Rauhauser. You do not know what you started.
nk (875f57) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:31 pmGet Bryneart in an FBI interrogation room and I ‘ll bet he sings like a canary.
Guy seems like he has nerves made out of tissue paper
John Difool (4251ee) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:32 pmIt’s kinda like the way Kimberlin served interrogatories on Breitbart at a wrong address that just happened to be the same address as was published by OccupyforAccountability.org — a site whose donations go to Velvet Revolution.
In a post that also published my home address and pictures of my home.
Almost makes it seem like Brett Kimberlin had something to do with that — or at least was aware of it. Doesn’t it?
Patterico (feda6b) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:32 pmCertainly these clowns have overestimated their own competence.
SPQR (26706b) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:37 pm@Patterico
Hopefully soon special investigators will be on this and start putting all of the puzzle pieces together. Kimberlin may not fold because he’s a professional lying sociopath but I ‘ll bet his associates will fold up like a bunch of cheap chairs.
John Difool (4251ee) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:37 pmIt’s also helpful to make this clear so everyone realizes this address should be left alone.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:38 pmI had a thought last night, while brushing my teeth, about why Erick Erickson was SWATted – and why you were, too, Patterico:
The intersection between findability (your address could be ferreted out) and prominence.
Both you and Erickson are reasonably well-known, and both of you can be located with reasonable ease because you’re public figures.
Why did the SWATter call in to Lee Stranahan’s show last night? If it is Brynaert, he’s always played the public hysteric; why not call and taunt you? No one in law enforcement, apparently, anyway, cares at all, so taunting you would be both gratifying and safe. So, why not?
My two cents.
Dianna (f12db5) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:41 pmI’m still not sure about Weinergate and its players. It could be true that what’s happening is someone’s way of getting even with conservative bloggers for their role in Weinergate. It could also be true that a few conservative bloggers were getting too close to learning who was behind Weinergate and why it really happened.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:42 pmThe caller sounds like those sad soul/football fans who call into sports talk radio…
My $.02… that is the same voice/individual on all of those calls.
Colonel Haiku (2d61ce) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:44 pmWhy would someone call in to a radio show, speaking in their own normal recognizable voice, and confess to being the swatter?
Asking the question assumes a certain level of non-sociopath behavior on the caller’s part.
The caller was able to shock listeners, creep them out and control the moment. A momentary fix.
In their eyes, there was power being exercised over you and Stranahan at the moment. It produced an emotional response. As a listener I had a visceral reaction to it, so unexpected it was.
Dana (4eca6e) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:45 pm@Diana
Could also be the caller believes they have friends in high places *cough* Soros * cough* and think they’re untouchable because * cough* Dem Congressman * cough*
Lots of hubris and arrogance on display.
John Difool (4251ee) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:49 pmSorry that last post was for @Dana
John Difool (4251ee) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:50 pmLots of hubris and arrogance on display
A little thrill of power. Their m.o. is one of shock and control, and an exercise is attempting to show others who dare to push back, their power; whether on a small scale (like last night’s radio call-in) or on a larger, more destructive scale (SWAT).
The question is, what’s so important that it’s worth all the effort to prevent people from finding out?
Dana (4eca6e) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:53 pmMan, I listened to the show and heard the first stalker call but dropped off after that thinking the show was basically over.
I should have known that Kimberlin group is the 1927 Yankees of nutjobs and would send the game into extra innings.
Kaisersoze (298188) — 5/28/2012 @ 12:55 pm“I think all this terrorism and harrassment being perpetrated by Brett Kimberlin and his weenie buddies is awful, but it’s still not enough to motivate me to vote for Romney over Obama in November. I think I’m either going to write-in Ron Paul’s name, or I’m going to vote for the Libertarian candidate, even if it means risking an Obama re-election. After all, I’m not really all that concerned about the left wing crackheads who Obama will nominate to the federal judiciary, you know, cause like the appellate courts are not really on my radar or anything. I’m a purist, and I believe in utopia, rather than pragmatism and selecting the best available option ! The Fast and Furious debaucle at the Justice Department doesn’t really bother me all that much, either. I’d rather have Eric Holder as AG rather than Chris Christie or Rudy Giuliani, anyday ! And Hillary Clinton or John Kerry is a much better choice for Secretary of State than John Bolton !”Please vote for Romney in November.
Elephant Stone (0ae97d) — 5/28/2012 @ 1:00 pm@Dana
In a nutshell which I alluded to above is Kimberlin very likely doesn’t want anyone finding out what he’s really doing with the non-profit money and two, the money drying up when the donors find out what a reprehensible monster he is and drop all association with him like hot potato with Ebola sprinkled on it.
He most likely is viewing all of this as simply self preservation and is willing to walk through hell with a pair of gasoline underpants on to salvage his cushy lifestyle where he doesn’t actually have to do real work for a living.
John Difool (4251ee) — 5/28/2012 @ 1:01 pm*Clears throat* *Assumes best educated Brit voice* “You interest me strangely. Do go on!”
Dianna (f12db5) — 5/28/2012 @ 1:01 pmSeriously, that’s a very good question. One that allies to it, to my mind is, “Why not lie as if dead?” Drawing all this attention is counter-productive and is likely to get balls rolling that were safety inert before.
There is a whiff of megalomania in all this.
Dianna (f12db5) — 5/28/2012 @ 1:09 pmWhy is the police so seemingly unintrested, especially in the face of all this powerful circumstantial evidence? Pieced together all this this evidence shold be enough to get at least warrant, to forensiclly compare the voices. Patterico, have you considered setting up a tip line, website? I’m sure if you set up a reward from donations, it would lead to someone recognizing him?
Raquel (796c6a) — 5/28/2012 @ 1:13 pmRaquel, the kind of cross jurisdiction work required to successfully prosecute this kind of crime is difficult to get prioritized.
However, the public attention these crimes are receiving moves it up in likelihood.
SPQR (26706b) — 5/28/2012 @ 1:18 pmIt is something I can’t talk about in public. Don’t take any grand meaning from that. It’s just that employers understandably want their internal communications with an employee to remain just that: internal and private. I’ll respect that.
Patterico (feda6b) — 5/28/2012 @ 1:23 pmLaughing about Michelle Malkin’s cousin? This is a sick person.
AZ Bob (1c9631) — 5/28/2012 @ 1:28 pmAnd yes, I am still a Deputy D.A. (speaking, as always, in his private capacity and not on behalf of the office).
Patterico (feda6b) — 5/28/2012 @ 1:30 pmI missed what he was saying about Michelle’s cousin when it was live. These people are truly sickos.
Noodles (3681c4) — 5/28/2012 @ 1:34 pmComment by Dianna — 5/28/2012 @ 1:09 pm
“Lie as if dead.” Exactly, Dianna. This all seems to no purpose to an objective eye – and by that I mean useless and counterproductive.
If these were professional op research people with any actual sense and skills, who wanted not to be discovered, just blinking out would have sufficed. No attention drawn.
But of course we are dealing with a psychopath and a small cadre of minions who might have other motives.
At bottom its money and the pleasures of making monkeys dance.
SarahW (b0e533) — 5/28/2012 @ 1:45 pmThere’s a kind of enemies list that includes Patterico posted at http://www.occupyforaccountability.org/index.php?q=those%20we%20hold%20accountable. “A List of those we hold accountable for the destruction of The American way of life.” Looks like it was posted 03/01/2012, so I’m sure some of you have already seen it.
gp (0c542c) — 5/28/2012 @ 1:58 pmYeah, I posted about that back in November 2011.
And I posted about Kimberlin getting his picture taken with Rove here.
I am not new to this story. People might want to poke around my archives some.
Patterico (feda6b) — 5/28/2012 @ 2:05 pm@Patterico
Thanks for posting the link to the Kimberlin/Rove story and…..
Woof!…..he just couldn’t resist taking a pic of Rove’s personal license plate could he?
John Difool (4251ee) — 5/28/2012 @ 2:20 pmAlso, I was sickened by Kimberlin’s pick with Rove preening for the camera while holding up a pre-teen girl with the very real possibility this guy is a murdering pedophile.
Somebody please tell me this sick bastard doesn’t have children now?
John Difool (4251ee) — 5/28/2012 @ 2:31 pmAlso if you click on that link of their “enemies list” that includes Patrick, the name of Andrew Breitbart is still listed but with a line through his name.
That tells you the kind of sick minds you are dealing with.
Kaisersoze (298188) — 5/28/2012 @ 2:42 pmOn second (really like twentieth) thought, you’re probably right.
I just listened to last night’s call many times and compared it to the Stranahan caller from 6.22.2011. I can’t say for sure, but I think whoever made the call last night is the same person who made the call on 6.22. And my hesitance points to what the goal was: uncertainty.
It seems obvious that this voice last night was disguised. It’s a mocking confession to a serious crime… and hell, it just sounds obviously disguised anyway. If he was ordering a pizza I’d think it was disguised.
There is precious little audio that is undisguised. The culprits would prefer we focus on the disguised voice exclusively.
The end of the call that swatted Patterico sounds like a caller who had to convince an incredulous dispatcher there was a serious incident, but also in a real rush to get off the phone. He sounds a bit emotional and yells “I did it!” and a couple of other comments. It did the trick for getting Patterico that surprise visit, but it was a mistake. You get a much better idea of what the swatter sounds like. The list of suspects is short, and as far as I know, only one sounds just like the undisguised voice.
They are actively pursuing a goal of misdirection. Developments should be interpreted through that lens.
Dustin (330eed) — 5/28/2012 @ 2:45 pmI recall one of this crew chortling about how the stress of this story likely ended his life. To be clear: I’m not saying they really had anything to do with a death I believe was natural.
Dustin (330eed) — 5/28/2012 @ 2:47 pm“It seems obvious that this voice last night was disguised.”
Yeah, he’s probably using a SpoofCard or something similar.
At least he is, if he has any operable brain cells.
Which, given his behavior, is definitely debatable.
Dave Surls (46b08c) — 5/28/2012 @ 2:50 pmGee, isn’t that an uncanny coincidence! I think there is enough information here to at least warrant a serious investigation.
Nicholas Fitzgerald (00fa39) — 5/28/2012 @ 3:00 pmThe way the voice on both calls says “I shotter”…Not I shot her. I caught that right off the bat. Sounds exactly the same to me.
Hal (b20c05) — 5/28/2012 @ 3:11 pmI have read that he is married and has two children. He and his wife have traded accusations of domestic abuse, evidently, which is a sad and sorry commentary on his character and what it attracts.
Dianna (f12db5) — 5/28/2012 @ 3:17 pmHow come sometimes you’re James and sometimes you’re Michael and the creeps can’t seem to get it right?
Sam (c3bcee) — 5/28/2012 @ 3:19 pmHal, yeah, I think no one’s arguing the fact that the 2 swatters are the same guy. (Also the old Lee Stranahan radio show caller from back in June….same dude).
The question on the table is whether the chuckling psycho radio caller “Buddy” from last night and Ron’s interview both match the 3 calls from the same guy above.
Sam (c3bcee) — 5/28/2012 @ 3:24 pmI believe he thinks he is insulated.
geoffb (1f4c30) — 5/28/2012 @ 3:45 pmHey Rauhauser. Show up for court, that’s one place for John Law to make better acquaintance with you.
SarahW (b0e533) — 5/28/2012 @ 3:51 pmBecause the “American Way of Life” is pooping on police cars and blowing guy’s legs off, and imposing your narcissistic love dreams on tweenage girls, and supporessing free speech.
Curse you, Patterico, for thinking liberty has anything to do with being an American.
SarahW (b0e533) — 5/28/2012 @ 3:55 pmsuppressing, that is
SarahW (b0e533) — 5/28/2012 @ 3:57 pmThis from 2004 is interesting for its tone and the similarity of the blogger’s nom de plume to our Wikipedia editor above. The comments to that post are also interesting, particularly the last one (from 2006).
I may be way off here, but there is at least a certain similarity of attitude and suggested tactics between this old post and what’s going on now.
jaed (b59af7) — 5/28/2012 @ 4:36 pmHas anyone held Beth Becker’s feet to the fire (metaphorically speaking, of course) on her relationship with Rauhauser at Progressive PST?
I love that her twitter handle is @spedwybabs and she is partners with the partner of the speedway bomber BTW
Auntie Fraud (2f38aa) — 5/28/2012 @ 4:46 pmI informed my local police department about the SWATting and the very minimal possibility that I could get SWATted (since my micro-blog has been republishing Patterico and Aaron Worthing articles).
My police department, protecting 100,000 people and more, with a rather well-known military base jutted up against it, had no idea what SWATting is or who Brett Kimberlin is.
John Hitchcock (69d34b) — 5/28/2012 @ 5:01 pmStupidly agreeing with Abu Hamza, thinking Blair was more evil than Hitler, what kind of an idiot
narciso (3c5948) — 5/28/2012 @ 5:02 pmdo we have here,
Why do they do it? The same reason lefties troll the way they do — abusively and with unearthly determination.
The goal is to shut us up. To make us afraid to stick our heads up. To push conservatives back into isolation and turn back the clock to the days when the MSM controlled the flow of information.
Trolls are determined to make our places so unpleasant we abandon them. The Kimberlins of the world are determined to make us frightened of their attacks and so withdraw from the public square.
Folks, the press isn’t going to touch this. They’ll see where he’s getting his money and know he’s got clout. They’ll see what’s happened to people who stand up to him and they’ll decide the story’s too small to bother with. And, hey, they’re playing for the same team and for the same ends, so….
And the government? *snort* Who let Kimberlin walk the streets? Who lets a convict — especially one with such a “colorful” set of guilty verdicts — run a “charitable” organization and funnels cash to him?!
Rob Crawford (d8dade) — 5/28/2012 @ 5:16 pmOh goodie.. Wonkette has weighed in
Auntie Fraud (2f38aa) — 5/28/2012 @ 5:52 pmHow very helpful.
Actually, the facts are right. The tone’s idiotic; one would rather hope the writer never has a similar experience to Patterico’s. I don’t think the snarkiness would hold up very well.
Dianna (f12db5) — 5/28/2012 @ 6:07 pmOMG, the comment section is so… so painfully juvenile. A bit embarrassing.
All in all, post is not nearly as bad as I braced for.
Dana (4eca6e) — 5/28/2012 @ 6:11 pmI thought it totally missed how this is a nonpartisan and outrageous crime that could happen to anyone.
The left shouldn’t want to make this into a partisan battle, either. They should instead say they disagree with Patterico on politics, but stand with him on his right to blog true facts and any opinions. It’s not complicated.
If this was done by a domestic terrorist who smeared Democrats, for example had fabricated a Kenyan Birth Certificate of Obama and claimed to have sold heroin to Joe Biden, and then democrat bloggers started getting outted and swatted and set up for crimes they didn’t commit… I bet Wonkette would try to make a partisan issue out of it. I bet they would think any right leaning folks snarking about it were awful, too.
But this isn’t a partisan issue at all.
Dustin (330eed) — 5/28/2012 @ 6:13 pmDustin,
History should tell you that anything coming out of Wonkette demands a very, very low bar of expectation. Surprisingly, it’s not as bad as I would expect from them.
Dana (4eca6e) — 5/28/2012 @ 6:18 pmDana, you’re right. But it’s still irritating.
Dustin (330eed) — 5/28/2012 @ 6:19 pmBeen a few years but I see the comments section at Wonkette is just oozing with class as usual.
Never change.
John Difool (4251ee) — 5/28/2012 @ 6:25 pmNick Denton runs a ‘fine den of scum and villainy’
narciso (3c5948) — 5/28/2012 @ 6:29 pmI reminded the Wonkette’s that the whole recent turn of events concerning Kimberlin is mostly because conservatives had to come to the defense and champion the free speech rights of a liberal book writer and a liberal blogger.
Sure that’s gonna go over like a fart in church.
John Difool (4251ee) — 5/28/2012 @ 6:34 pm“I thought it totally missed how this is a nonpartisan and outrageous crime that could happen to anyone.”
Dustin – It’s sort of like how perennial Greenwald butt licker Maha fesses up that she does not know much about all this but decides to write about it anyway two days in a row with predictable results.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 5/28/2012 @ 6:41 pmI guess Maha’s readers are looking for uninformed commentary, her stock in trade.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 5/28/2012 @ 6:45 pmJohn Cole over at Balloon Juice actually wrote a level headed and as close as can be expected non-partisan denouncement of Kimberlin & Co.
The comments however looked like the train wreck scene from Super 8.
John Difool (4251ee) — 5/28/2012 @ 6:48 pmFurther thoughts.
Wiki should get it’s crap straight on Kimberlin, an unrepentant conman. To gloss over him is to help create more victims for him to abuse.
IMO Kimberlin is a liar. He will lie to your face and when you call him a liar his feelings will be hurt. And then he will call you a liar. It looks like court system are unable to discriminate or don’t want to. But that is what they are for.
And Pattericos office needs to be escalating this swatting situation to the FBI. If they are not they are being negligent in their duties and it will reflect poorly on them at the least. The FBI should be out questioning people on this tomorrow and requesting twitter.com to cough up all the twitter records. And if there is a conspiracy here more than one persons account should be examined.
jd2 (40a8c6) — 5/28/2012 @ 6:51 pmOh goodie.. Wonkette has weighed in
Comment by Auntie Fraud — 5/28/2012 @ 5:52 pm
Ah, Wonkette. The
nk (875f57) — 5/28/2012 @ 7:09 pmrealityKY Jelly based community.Yes, that’s why they are trying so hard to gloss it over. It keeps victims isolated and keeps that $$$$$$$$$ flowing in.
That’s why I’m so disgusted with wikipedia’s participation in glossing over (or outright deleting) proven facts. They are part of the problem. I think at this point, they know they are part of the problem.
I just read Cole’s piece. Good for him.
Dustin (330eed) — 5/28/2012 @ 7:14 pmWhile white conservatives are being targeted by illegal means, the racist Holder is laughing at whitey. Does a white conservative attorney stand a chance during the time of hope and change?
mg (44de53) — 5/28/2012 @ 7:18 pmRace has zero to do with this. Focus on what we know or can reasonably believe based on what we know.
Dustin (330eed) — 5/28/2012 @ 7:21 pmI know the a.g. has made no effort to right these wrongs.
mg (44de53) — 5/28/2012 @ 7:24 pmThat’s a valid point, mg. Why isn’t the DOJ pursuing every lead in this case? And indeed they have not. In fact, many hot trails are likely cold now. Is it political? I hope it’s not a matter of the bad guys working connections.
I hope it’s not because someone is protecting an informant to the degree where serious crimes go unsolved.
The best case scenario is simply a lack of willpower and effort.
But I don’t know what the malfunction is. I just know that it is a perfectly valid and justified question to ask why the AG and our DOJ have not followed the leads.
Dustin (330eed) — 5/28/2012 @ 7:29 pmPerhaps a beer meeting between Holder and the fbi will start fixing the problem conservative bloggers are having with protected minions of the left.
mg (44de53) — 5/28/2012 @ 7:32 pmWhy isn’t the DOJ pursuing every lead in this case?
You want them to dismiss Black Panther cases and fight Fast and Furious FOIA requests AND investigate crimes? There are only 24 hours in a day, you know!
Kaisersoze (298188) — 5/28/2012 @ 7:32 pmImagine the right doing this to any attorney on the left. This swatting would be a thing of the past.
mg (44de53) — 5/28/2012 @ 7:35 pmDustin- If race is not involved, what could possibly be the malfunction? Conservatism?
mg (44de53) — 5/28/2012 @ 7:39 pmRonB and OccupyRebellion sure do not like all this sunlight.
JD (318f81) — 5/28/2012 @ 7:44 pmF&F covered their assault on the 2nd Amendment, and
narciso (3c5948) — 5/28/2012 @ 7:53 pman attack on a center right regime, now thereliably
corrupt PRI may get in, the NBBPP is about outreach and reinforcement, Kimberlin serves a similar function in the agitation, and attacks on voter
integrity, it all fits like pieces of a puzzle box.
Laziness.
Dustin (330eed) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:04 pmI kept thinking that Drudge was not reporting this because he had an ace in the hole that he was holding back on. So, last night when I was listening, and heard the alleged Swating caller,(it was chilling, and I too thought it was the same caller, although he sounded high), I thought for sure Drudge would run it, but alas he didn’t. Is there any way there is something he knows that we don’t?
sybilll (928381) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:13 pmHe pretty much doesn’t link to blogs. Give him a Big Media link and he’ll go with it.
Patterico (feda6b) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:15 pmI missed the podcast.
If I missed because I was finishing the stock on the 10 gauge, is my man card still good?
Steve (7d9c6b) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:15 pmDustin- that is a heavy helping of laziness.
mg (44de53) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:16 pmI admit that explanation is difficult to accept, mg.
Dustin (330eed) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:18 pmWhy wouldn’t Drudge link to Redstate on the Erickson story? He’s linked to Breitbart before. Also he has Malkin and several other prominent bloggers linked on the bottom of his page.
John Difool (4251ee) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:25 pmAccepted, because it fits their profile.
mg (44de53) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:27 pmSomeone mentioned upthread about Wikipedia being absent of an article mentioning Kimberlin & the Speedway bombings.
Strangely it’s back up……for now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedway_Bombings
John Difool (4251ee) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:34 pmEven Eric Boehlert doesn’t like Brett Kimberlin
Auntie Fraud (2f38aa) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:44 pmThanks for that, Auntie.
Dustin (330eed) — 5/28/2012 @ 8:57 pmDrudge links to The Examiner, and they are covering the story. Something just doesn’t pass my smell test. I err on the side of hoping Drudge has been leaked a bombshell (I hope).
sybilll (928381) — 5/28/2012 @ 9:13 pm@mg,
A portion of the problem can be attributed to departmental budgets and the persons in charge that determine how those monies will be spent.
Statistics are the lifeblood of organizations that rely on tax dollars to survive. That’s why you’ll see and read about agencies doing a huge push on issues that seemingly makes no sense in light of real crime going on all around. That and the cost of maintaining the peace with the organizations which represent the workers sort of suck the life out of any thoughts that your local LE agency is all hot to get to the bottom of some serious wrongs.
Although, in the past, LE organizations were inherently conservative, that’s really not so much the case, these days.
I don’t live in LA County, so I am not suggesting anything one way or another with this particular situation.
Out to Lunch (a19b3a) — 5/28/2012 @ 9:19 pmLee is talking about doing another podcast.
I won’t be on.
I think Ron and the swatter should call in at the same time. And talk at the same time.
Wouldn’t that be good radio?
Patterico (feda6b) — 5/28/2012 @ 9:19 pmI think that one was on last night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xECUrlnXCqk
Dustin (330eed) — 5/28/2012 @ 9:23 pmThere’s been a lot of activity on Wikipedia lately. Brett Kimberlin’s bio is back, and the Speedway bombings page has been extensively updated. A lot of his convictions are now listed.
Somebody(s?) has been busy.
Antimedia (f41333) — 5/28/2012 @ 9:24 pmHeh.
Patterico (feda6b) — 5/28/2012 @ 9:26 pm#24 What an ass.
Bill (cd1593) — 5/28/2012 @ 9:35 pmDustin – hehe
SarahW (b0e533) — 5/29/2012 @ 6:41 amYou asked, “What does he have to gain?”
Nothing material. But psychologically, he gains “narcissistic supply”. Anybody sick enough to “swat” somebody is in it for deeply disturbed reasons. He thrives on the conflict and need to see his victims suffer. He’s a narcissist and he needs to supply the deep void within.
Griffin (d46769) — 5/30/2012 @ 4:33 pmThe question of motive has been addressed by some commenters. However, I have not seen ‘intimidation’ mentioned. The obvious motive that makes sense, not to ignore the possibility that the ‘swatter’ may a bat-crazy.
I believe this was done to send a message to conservatives, that when you speak up about the threat to the civilized world posed by the mainstream Left, you are entering into the sights of some very serious, unprincipled and violent people.
DilloTank (bd71a3) — 6/2/2012 @ 7:58 pm