Breaking: Kim Jong Il Reportedly Dead
CNN says The Fearless Gnome is dead.
The news comes via Aaron Worthing, who celebrates raucously. It takes some personal effort not to cheer on the sentiment at Aaron’s link.
UPDATE: Aaron also has the reaction from the White “Hosue.” Heh.
Bawney Fwank hoping that Sum-Yung-Gai will takeover.
Good a commie died.
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 12/18/2011 @ 7:48 pmOnly his hairdresser knows.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 12/18/2011 @ 7:48 pmIs it true Kim-Jong Il liked little boys like a gay pedophile?
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 12/18/2011 @ 7:56 pmbtw, funny video at the link. Kim Jong Il has a soft side, you know…
And i speculate as to what the true cause of death might be.
You know, if you don’t buy the “hard work killed him” official story…
Aaron Worthing (73a7ea) — 12/18/2011 @ 8:02 pmNorth Korea will still be communist.
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 12/18/2011 @ 8:02 pmdictatorships don’t survive very long. This the generation that typically kills it, by ineptitude or design.
Aaron Worthing (73a7ea) — 12/18/2011 @ 8:04 pmCabbage Soup For Everybody!!!!!!!!!!
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 12/18/2011 @ 8:05 pmWell, actually, expressing unbounded joy at somebody’s death is kind of Drudgereport bitchyqueen like.
nk (1346e5) — 12/18/2011 @ 8:07 pmshared sacrifice, part 97
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 12/18/2011 @ 8:15 pmNK
did you feel the same way when Osama died?
Aaron Worthing (73a7ea) — 12/18/2011 @ 8:17 pm“Well, actually, expressing unbounded joy at somebody’s death is kind of Drudgereport bitchyqueen like.”
nk – They celebrated the witch’s death in The Wizard of Oz, so I see a precedent.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 12/18/2011 @ 8:20 pmAnd to add to the celebration I give you…
Kim Jung Il looking at things.
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 12/18/2011 @ 8:22 pmDoes Michael Moore pay his fair and share in taxes?
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 12/18/2011 @ 8:23 pmWhy do the left talk about revolution?
OWS protests the fact that Michael Moores tax isn’t low enough so the left supporting them are a bunch of mediocre dupes.
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 12/18/2011 @ 8:24 pmAlso, i have a link to a bbc video of the state tv announcer crying on air. what a bootlicker.
Aaron Worthing (73a7ea) — 12/18/2011 @ 8:25 pmWhat a bootlicker.
No shock there.
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 12/18/2011 @ 8:25 pmDancing with Albright would have done most people in.
JD (318f81) — 12/18/2011 @ 8:26 pmnk
Kim Jong il ordered young American soldiers who were overrun in a cowardly attacks murdered for their [resistance]
I’ve got no problem wishing him a long life in hell
EricPWJohnson (719277) — 12/18/2011 @ 8:28 pmApart from the regime bootlickers and his family, who is mourning the passing of Kim Jong Il?
He is certainly not regarded as a great reformer like Bashar al-Assad of Syria.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 12/18/2011 @ 8:29 pmI think Kim-Jong Ill is in hell with Hitler Salvator Allende and Haily Mengistu[Sp?]
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 12/18/2011 @ 8:29 pm“Dancing with Albright would have done most people in.”
JD – They danced with Albright just to pry her away from the buffet table and prevent more mass starvation.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 12/18/2011 @ 8:31 pm“I think Kim-Jong Ill is in hell with Hitler Salvator Allende and Haily Mengistu[Sp?]”
Dohbiden – I think Idi Amin is there too, eating lady fingers.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 12/18/2011 @ 8:33 pmApart from the regime bootlickers and his family, who is mourning the passing of Kim Jong Il?
Apparently the public in general,
Traffic in the North Korean capital was moving as usual Monday, but people in the streets were in tears as they learned the news of Kim’s death. A foreigner contacted at Pyongyang’s Koryo Hotel said hotel staff were in tears.
These are a people ill prepared to live without Dear Leader; so isolated and clueless as to the functions of the outside world, including democracy and freedom. It will interesting to see how South Korea reacts in the next few days as the young Kim Jong Il takes power.
Dana (4eca6e) — 12/18/2011 @ 8:34 pmDon’t forget to add Nicolae Ceaulescu and Todor Zhivkov.
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 12/18/2011 @ 8:36 pmI have a horrible feeling this will not end well.
Ag80 (ec45d6) — 12/18/2011 @ 8:38 pmI’ve no problem celebrating the death of one of the world’s monsters. Millions of his own people dead at his hands.
But I’ll actually wait on the celebration to see whether or not the Korean peninsula goes pearshaped in the resulting power struggle.
SPQR (26be8b) — 12/18/2011 @ 8:47 pmWhat is the proof that Osama bin Laden iss dead?
nk (1346e5) — 12/18/2011 @ 8:54 pmDead at age 69? Was it a poor diet or more like Michael Jackson?
AZ Bob (7dbcdc) — 12/18/2011 @ 8:55 pmnk, well its not “proof” but the fact that Bin Laden’s death was not announced by Eric Holder increases the likelihood that it is fact.
SPQR (26be8b) — 12/18/2011 @ 9:01 pmI agree it was gay for Obama to flush bin laden’s corpse without letting people see his lifeless carcass
it was also gay for Obama not to order that he be captured alive for so we could capture him
but Obama’s a McCain-like coward what thinks only of political gain, not of what’s in America’s best interest
He has a lot in common with this Jong Il fellow.
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 12/18/2011 @ 9:09 pmNew post, related. The White “Hosue” responds. click on my name to go to the link.
Aaron Worthing (73a7ea) — 12/18/2011 @ 9:09 pmfor so we could *question* him I mean
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 12/18/2011 @ 9:10 pmKim Jong Il
DCSCA (9d1bb3) — 12/18/2011 @ 9:21 pmKim Jong Dead
Fidel Castro
Shake in bed
And now we have video of the crying anchor at the link at my nickname…
Aaron Worthing (73a7ea) — 12/18/2011 @ 9:22 pmWell, actually, expressing unbounded joy at somebody’s death is kind of Drudgereport bitchyqueen like.
— Unfortunately for Kim he was not a newborn with a post-partum mother.
Icy (94b22d) — 12/18/2011 @ 9:22 pmIn tribute to the fallen leader there will now commence 40 years of reverent fasting by the people . . .
Huh? What do you mean “they already did that”?
Wow! It’s like a preemptive tribute. Clever — very clever.
Icy (94b22d) — 12/18/2011 @ 9:27 pmI have a bad feeling that this Guy’s soon will be the next Juan Peron of North Korea.
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 12/18/2011 @ 9:34 pmson*
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 12/18/2011 @ 9:34 pmWhen the wicked die, there is song.
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 12/18/2011 @ 9:59 pmThe Winter White Hosue might want to flee to safer environs.
Ag80 (ec45d6) — 12/18/2011 @ 10:00 pmAllende saved Chile from communism. He doesn’t belong in that set.
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 12/18/2011 @ 10:02 pmSeriously, though, the Chicoms are probably worried.
Ag80 (ec45d6) — 12/18/2011 @ 10:06 pm“These are a people ill prepared to live without Dear Leader”
Dana – Absolutely. They luv him long time. Gotta show those tears or you wind up in dungeon.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 12/18/2011 @ 10:13 pmReally milhouse?
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 12/18/2011 @ 10:20 pmUm no.
You mean Augusto Pinochet.
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 12/18/2011 @ 10:20 pmAh, so. I had a brain fart. My abject apologies. Allende is the communist would-be tyrant from whom Pinochet saved Chile. Still, he doesn’t belong in the same category as the others you listed; he might have had designs along their lines, but thankfully he was overthrown before he had a chance to do much.
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 12/18/2011 @ 10:27 pmAny day a commie ratbag dies is a good day.
Dave Surls (46b08c) — 12/18/2011 @ 11:07 pmComment by EricPWJohnson — 12/18/2011 @ 8:28 pm
Once more epwj jumps off the deep end.
AD-RtR/OS! (e5abf1) — 12/18/2011 @ 11:30 pmDuring the Korean War, Kim Jong Il would have been between the ages of 9 and 12.
You have confused him with his father, Kim Il Sung (1912-1994).
Pinochet, on the other hand, was disgracefully ill-treated in his later years, by an ungrateful country, with the shameful collusion of the UK courts and government.
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 12/18/2011 @ 11:51 pmAnd no, I don’t much care about Pinochet’s excesses. Most if not all of the people he had killed were communist plotters; if along the way some innocents were killed as well, that’s sad, and even a stain on his record, but it doesn’t nearly outweigh the great good he did. Bear in mind that so long as the communist threat remained, Chileans kept voting to keep him in power; only when the threat was gone and they no longer needed him did they vote to return to democracy.
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 12/18/2011 @ 11:54 pmOnce more epwj jumps off the deep end.
— More likely he was diving into the shallow end, head first.
You have confused him with his father, Kim Il Sung
— I was wondering WTF that boy was going on about!
[ Hawkeye: This must be my Kim Lucky day.]
Icy (94b22d) — 12/19/2011 @ 12:51 amAD
Yeah I realized it last night – sorry to confuse oe horible American killing despot who used American prisoners in Korea for medical experiments from another who invaded and killed american soldiers after we just fought a 4 year war to set them free in north Korea
And thats if you believe the claim he was just 69
EricPWJohnson (4380b4) — 12/19/2011 @ 3:43 amAnd so Cartere retains his title as ‘history’s greatest monster’,with Bill Clinton’s acquiescence.
narciso (87e966) — 12/19/2011 @ 5:41 am35.Well, actually, expressing unbounded joy at somebody’s death is kind of Drudgereport bitchyqueen like.
– Unfortunately for Kim he was not a newborn with a post-partum mother.
Comment by Icy — 12/18/2011 @ 9:22 pm
Still harping on that, Yeasty? You know who she is and where she is. Apply some Vagisil to your itchy special place and go do some justice.
nk (1346e5) — 12/19/2011 @ 6:34 amWell…bye.
Joe Mama (e98ad1) — 12/19/2011 @ 7:21 amKim Jong il is now Kim jong dead…
The Emperor (74bdcf) — 12/19/2011 @ 8:09 amOh the the horror. The sadness. The pain…
Comment by EricPWJohnson — 12/19/2011 @ 3:43 am
I used the Wiki reported DOB as early-41, to give you as much benefit of doubt as possible – and (I think) that’s being overly charitable.
There are two realistic responses to learning of the deaths of despots such as Kim (Father, Son, and -beginning now – Grandson):
What took so long?
AD-RtR/OS! (dadeb3) — 12/19/2011 @ 8:13 amGood Riddance!
Well his Joy Brigade of attractive young women is rejoicing. No more doing the horizontal mambo with the creepy old geezer. On the other hand, they’ve got a problem. In a country that’s starving, their “rice bowl” has been broken.
Comanche Voter (0e06a9) — 12/19/2011 @ 9:31 amPerhaps they can hook up with DaffyDuck’s security detail, and do a combo tour of the West?
AD-RtR/OS! (dadeb3) — 12/19/2011 @ 9:36 amStill harping on that, Yeasty?
— Isn’t it nice to be remembered?
Icy (b15d2e) — 12/19/2011 @ 10:09 amHoagie, one of my regular commenters, is married to a Korean lady; it’s apparently major party time at la Casa Hoagie, with half of the Philly burbs Korean community dropping by.
The blogger Dana (3e4784) — 12/19/2011 @ 10:28 amkim jong il is dead
Colonel Haiku (caa4c2) — 12/19/2011 @ 10:45 amlie down with dogs in korea
wake up BBQ’d
There are dogs left in NoKor?
AD-RtR/OS! (dadeb3) — 12/19/2011 @ 10:52 amI heard it on the John Batchelor show.
John Batchelor also reported last night that Syria has moved SCUD missiles, armed with chemical weapons, closer to Turkey (and this was presumably deliberate – they didn’t need to move them to hit anything important, they just wanted foreign intelligence agencies to notice.)
This story about Syrian SCUD missiles didn’t make the papers.
Looking further, taht might be a bit of an old story – it was reported November 26:
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/212313.html
The New York Times has the Kim Jong Il (his name was not Kim Jong the Second although some famous politician once made that mistake – and now the Rick Perry did it too in an e-mail!) death as a headline today. He is no more King Jong the Second, than Malcolm Little renamed himself Malcolm the Tenth.
A comment omn the straight dope website says that there is new, rarely used, standard transcription of Korea. But to spell it so Americans would pronounce it reasonably correct it should be: “Keem Juhng-ill”. That’s definitely a “j” sound (as in “jump”) and not a “y”. The vowel is a schwa. There’s no “g” sound, so his name rhymes with “rung”. The last syllable is exactly like the word “ill” in English.
His family name is harder to pronounce for English speakers. The “K” is like an English “k”, but without aspiration. Or like an English “g”, but without being voiced. Probably the closest is the “k” in “baker”. The “i” is not a short English “i”, but closer to a long “e”.
Oh, by the way “il” means one, not two, in Korean.
Sammy Finkelman (d3daeb) — 12/19/2011 @ 11:09 amMy comment is that for all the imaginings that sometimes people have that a death could be kept secret (Howard Hughes for instance) no matter hiw secret somebody’s life is, if the person is soem kind of a leader, if someone is in charge, if he’s dead we find out very soon.
Stalin’s death wasn’t kept secret long. The New York Times seems to think it is something that it was kept secret for nearly 48 hours,- it happened Saturday local time – but that’s about the maximum you can get. Therefore there was little reason to doubt that Osama bin Laden was dead. His own people wind up acknowledging it.
I was surprised he died so soon, but it seems to have surprise dthe people in charge in North Korea too. They describe it as a heart attack on a train.
Sammy Finkelman (d3daeb) — 12/19/2011 @ 11:10 amThat was Jesse Helms. So the next time he had to pronounce the name, his aides helpfully spelled it phonetically: “Kim Jong Ill”. And, of course, you can guess how Helms read that 🙂
Milhouse (d7842d) — 12/19/2011 @ 12:23 pmThis is one of the reasons that many speechwriters would only use “Western Union” typewriters – they only have upper-case letters!
Sort of hard to misinterpret “KIM JONG ILL”.
AD-RtR/OS! (dadeb3) — 12/19/2011 @ 12:33 pmTo borrow from our British forebears: “The Kim is dead! Long live the Kim!”
The Anglophile Dana (f68855) — 12/19/2011 @ 3:30 pmWe knew that he wasn’t well,
The Limerick Avenger (f68855) — 12/19/2011 @ 3:32 pmOf death he started to smell
Too bad for him
I’m afraid that Kim
Is tasting the fires of Hell.
“I’ll see you in Hell, Hans Brix!”
– Kim Jong IL
Colonel Haiku (caa4c2) — 12/19/2011 @ 3:53 pmThank you for the pedantic language lesson, Sammy. Full of yourself much?
JD (9351a4) — 12/19/2011 @ 4:06 pmThey describe it as a heart attack on a train
You misunderstood, Sammy. They said it was a “heart attack in training”, in that the fat little f*ck had been living a dissolute life for decades.
Colonel Haiku (8699c3) — 12/19/2011 @ 4:39 pmWho cares how he died, it just matters that the little snot is gone.
AD-RtR/OS! (dadeb3) — 12/19/2011 @ 4:41 pmHave a heart, AD… he was so ronery.
Colonel Haiku (8699c3) — 12/19/2011 @ 4:43 pmComment by JD — 12/19/2011 @ 4:06 pm
Thank you for the pedantic language lesson, Sammy. Full of yourself much?
Most of that language wasn’t mine. I cut and pasted most of it from a straight dope message board. Aspiration is not a word I would use. I got a little bit lazy about starting the italics.
Here is where you can get the full discussion:
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-583174.html
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Comment by Milhouse — 12/19/2011 @ 12:23 pm
So the next time he [Senator Jesse Helms] had to pronounce the name, his aides helpfully spelled it phonetically: “Kim Jong Ill”. And, of course, you can guess how Helms read that 🙂
Kim Jong, Illinois. Is that Ill-uh-noise or Illinoy?
I guessed wrong.
Christopher Hitchins is quoted in several places on the web as writing after Jesse Helms died:
“But what about the hearings on North Korea in which he made repeated references to “Kim Jong the Second”? In order to prevent any repetition of this idiotic gaffe, Helms’ staff propped up a piece of card on which was clearly written the pronunciation “Kim Jong ILL.” The senator from North Carolina duly made the adjustment, referring thenceforth to the North Korean despot as “Kim Jong the Third.”
I can’t find an original source mentioning Hitchens. This might be the closest one mentioning Christopher Hitchins:
http://eddyfication.com/2008/07/08/hitchens-on-helms/
The original source of the information might be an editorial in the The New Republic of February 20, 1995, which obviously can’t be the really original source.
Anyway, on January 25, 1995, Jesse Helms said “King Jong Two” and on January 26, 1995 he said “Kim Jong the Third”
I guess Jesse Helms’ eyesight wasn’t so good.
OR
A small “l” looks too much like a capital I.
After all, if you misread one l as a I, you’ll do it also with two l’s too.
Sammy Finkelman (b17872) — 12/19/2011 @ 6:58 pmThese North Koreans cry for Kim Jong Stalin and whine about the evil america but they have no problem emigrating to america using our money and curse religion.
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 12/19/2011 @ 7:00 pmand they curse the fact we have religion.*
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 12/19/2011 @ 7:03 pmNorth Koreans emigrating? What are you talking about?
Sammy Finkelman (b17872) — 12/19/2011 @ 7:20 pm“But what about the hearings on North Korea in which he made repeated references to “Kim Jong the Second”? In order to prevent any repetition of this idiotic gaffe…”–Hitchens
Typical lefty baloney. As if it was important for Americans to memorize the name of every pint-sized Korean dictator that was ever spawned.
You can refer to any commie dictator as “that asshole in the People’s Republic of Whereverthefuckistan” and, that’s more than sufficient.
Now, an American president who can’t remember how many states we have…that’s a bit disturbing.
Although, I guess you don’t need to know that to be a successful lefty president. All you need to know how to do is use the tax system to steal taxpayers blind…and the Great Black Dope and his pals definitely have that covered.
Dave Surls (46b08c) — 12/21/2011 @ 3:28 pm