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12/15/2011

GOP Debate Open Thread

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 6:04 pm



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126 Responses to “GOP Debate Open Thread”

  1. I’m going to go turn on the tube right now.

    Patterico (f724ca)

  2. Mitt admits his failures.

    Patterico (f724ca)

  3. Perry is stupid.

    JD (4b216c)

  4. Mitt is reluctantly liberal

    JD (4b216c)

  5. Newt is gasp rich!

    JD (4b216c)

  6. Megyn Kelly’s hairstyle is very flattering.

    That’s the kind of crack political analysis you can expert from Patterico!

    Bachmann looks very presentable tonight as well.

    Patterico (f724ca)

  7. Did Bachman do her Tardasil rant yet?

    JD (4b216c)

  8. Next thing you know, Patterico will inform us that water is wet.

    JD (4b216c)

  9. Perry’s hair seems a little tamer tonight.

    Sorry, I can’t do substance right now for some reason.

    Patterico (f724ca)

  10. Maybe he is not planning to shoot a coyote on stage tonight.

    JD (4b216c)

  11. Obama #dodge

    Patterico (f724ca)

  12. what do we drink when Paul mentions war?

    EricPWJohnson (719277)

  13. None of them are serious candidates, they are just on a book tour.

    JD (4b216c)

  14. Bachmann just buried Newt

    EricPWJohnson (719277)

  15. Oh lordy, Gingrich is pointing his finger like clinton did during the Lewinsky

    EricPWJohnson (719277)

  16. Newtie #dodge

    Patterico (f724ca)

  17. Come on. You didn’t mean to refer to Paul Ryan’s plan when you bagged on Paul Ryan’s plan?

    Patterico (f724ca)

  18. Is this thing on?

    Patterico (f724ca)

  19. Paul Ryan never had a serious plan, Patterico. He just hung a weight around every Republican neck, and allowed the Dems to claim we would destroy MediCare.

    JD (4b216c)

  20. Newt took the loot. Perry invoking Tebow?!?! Lamester.

    Colonel Haiku (2add70)

  21. Perry’s back to making a fool of himself again.

    koam @wittier (b9af30)

  22. I felt sorry for santorum when his 1st question was you’ve been in Iow for 2 years – do you have any supporters?

    EricPWJohnson (719277)

  23. Huntsman just may be Dr. Joyce Brothers in drag.

    koam @wittier (b9af30)

  24. That’s three extraordinaries in one answer.

    Patterico (f724ca)

  25. is there a link for where I can hear this important debate for so I can make an informed choice

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  26. here you go happy

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  27. thank you SO much

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  28. Mr. Paul is to foreign policy acumen what Callista Gingrich is to good taste

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  29. Charles Johnson is erecting a monument in his pants or shorts or boxers or whatever.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  30. Romney just babbles and babbles but it’s all just vacuous cliche stuff

    Bachmann has cool hair she looks like a very conservative homophobic disney princess

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  31. Bachmann looks very presentable tonight as well.

    HD TV is cruel to women: Bachmann is compelled to trowel on an abnormal amount of foundation on to cover the lines and crows feet, lest she be judged as looking like a hag. How many of the men up there felt so concerned?

    Points for the updo, though.

    Dana (4eca6e)

  32. Ron Paul is a silly monkey

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  33. Why were we flying a drone over Iran?! How are we going to find out what they’re doing without one? Does Paul really think it would be responsible not to know what the Iranians are up to?! To deliberately close our eyes and not find out?

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  34. Newt is so much more real and so much less contrived than Romney

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  35. this debate looks way way too game showy

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  36. Ron Paul is effing nuts.

    Colonel Haiku (2add70)

  37. Huntsman is a fun guy huh

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  38. Bachmann’s voice is so soothing I think cause of I went to pre-school in Minnesota where I was taught by this nice nine-fingered lady what let me feed the guinea pig

    she talked like Michele with one l kinda

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  39. Was still an agnostic before tonight’s debate, but now I’m a believer. It’s Newt. He’ll beat Obama by 10 pts.

    Kevin Stafford (abdb87)

  40. Does Paul really think it would be responsible not to know what the Iranians are up to?! To deliberately close our eyes and not find out?

    Yes, yes he does.

    Dana (4eca6e)

  41. this is crazy boring… do we really need to hear about how much they all hate the immigrants

    again?

    really?

    I bet you half of this russian chockit bar I have in my desk at work that nobody’s changed their position since the last debate

    it’s really really tasty

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  42. I think Obama sexually harrassed me while I had my head up his ass.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  43. Marrcus Bachmann is an evangelical you lefty jew hating losers.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  44. Newt Gingrich agrees with Obama on ethanol.

    We oppose Obama because we’re racist according to the left.

    We oppose Hillary Clinton because we’re possibly racist and sexist according to the left.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  45. Santorum is wrong on Mass. gay marriage.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  46. They al hate the illegal immigrants

    FIFY crappyfeet and Crappyfeet Rick Perry will pose for playgirl in 2012.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  47. Uh no he is not but at least Romney is a family man.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  48. Bachmann is rocking that suit she really is

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  49. Bachmann solicited funds from EPA but says she will reduce its functions.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  50. embryos are lifey says Newt cause of they’ve been conceived

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  51. Crappyfeet?

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  52. no whammy no whammy no whammy

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  53. If you stand in the dark and look into the mirror and say Crappyfeets name 3 times he will appear in a negligee.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  54. So Perry thinks it’s bad for the federal government to pick winners and losers, but it’s hunkey dorey for a state government to do so? That the reason the feds shouldn’t favour some market players over others is the tenth amendment?!

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  55. Perry doesn’t think per se

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  56. Just an interjection:
    Did anyone read Ben Stein’s column in the American Spectator on 12.14.11?
    His prediction after watching the Gingrich-Huntsman interaction from Monday:
    “…the next President of the United States, Newt Gingrich, and the next Vice President, Jon Huntsman…”

    AD-RtR/OS! (e08334)

  57. Now we know how this guy swings:
    hasn’t had no Blingrich flings,
    kisses no DonTrump rings,
    ignores TWO focksnooze dings.

    The R bar is set low though. 🙂

    tifosa (72b7a4)

  58. 🙄 Jervis Tetch Huntsman what exactly does he bring to the table?

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  59. well that was a huge waste of time

    Bachmann looked great

    Huntsman and Santorum were annoyingly irrelevant

    Romney is too frantic he comes across like he’s gonna pepper spray the other shoppers

    Perry looked like he was braced for every question he reminded me of kickball

    Gingrich was very affable but that was gay what he said about outlawing abortion

    Ron Paul has a dreadful gravitas deficit

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  60. Does everything done against chinese people count as racist[Rosie O’Donnell’s tirade is not racist according to the civil right activists.]

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  61. ching chong it means I love you

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  62. Michele Bachmann Busted By PolitiFact On Claim About PolitiFact (VIDEO) http://huff.to/tgvrh7

    via @huffingtonpost

    tifosa (72b7a4)

  63. Palin is so dumb she said there were 57 states no that was Obama my bad.

    Palin is so dumb she said she’d leave Iraq at one date and then said she’d leave at another date no that was Obama my bad.

    Palin is so dumb she pronounced corpsmen as corpsemen oh wait that was Obama.

    Palin is so dumb she says um aaaaaaaaaah ooh ee ooh ah ah ting tang wallawalla bing bang oh wait that was Obama.

    Palin is so dumb she mistook one state for another oh wait that was Obama.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  64. No medical marijuana in NJ.

    Bureaucratic nanny staters strike again.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  65. Tiffy is all hot and bothered again.

    JD (4b216c)

  66. Palin is so dumb she told a paraplegic man to stand up oh god love ya that was Joe Biden.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  67. Tiffy is hot and bothered again.

    What else is new?

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  68. hey doh, I’m with ya….the only thing missing from the stage was $arah.

    tifosa (72b7a4)

  69. You are kind of an imbecile, tiffy. Your boy Huntsman is polling just awesome. Did you know we share China’s values? Run along and write him another check.

    JD (4b216c)

  70. Tiffy is an obama boy.

    He should change his name to Adrian Albert Mole.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  71. Romney- irritation
    Bachmann- irritating
    Gingrich- irritated
    Paul- irrational
    Santorum- irrelevant
    Huntsman- iridescent
    Perry- irregardless… [is that a word… oops…]

    Best new line- “I wanna make America ‘right’ again.” – Willard M.
    Worst old line “I…”– Newton L.

    Big winners: zany, fascism, Tebow
    Big losers: Buckley, Iowans, 30 Rock syndication blocs
    Honorable Mention- Reagan, Cuban missile crisis, ‘lavatories of innovation’ (aka Texas two-holers)

    DCSCA (9d1bb3)

  72. Tebow is a fascist?

    Please lay off the wacky tobaccy.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  73. IMP is off his meds. Again. Pity.

    JD (4b216c)

  74. I watched the debate and I’d willingly vote for anyone but Ron Paul. (I like Dr. Paul on several issues but I just can’t handle his foreign policy views.) Of course, it’s fun to spar here with Romney supporters because Romney is such an easy candidate to gig — he’ll look like a pretzel if he makes it to the general election — but even Romney might be able to win in today’s environment.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  75. Michele always impresses me in these debate things with how likable she is… I think she’s gonna come out of this just fine

    Huntsman is the exact opposite … he’s an insufferable twat

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  76. _____________________________________________

    Gingrich was very affable but that was gay what he said about outlawing abortion

    Since it was “gay,” happyfeet, I guess his comment wasn’t such a bad thing, was it?

    Does everything done against chinese people count as racist

    Only if the situation involves Chinese folks who are liberal or registered Democrats. Or Islamic. Or gay/bisexual. OTOH, if they’re of the right, you’re allowed to do Charlie Chan impersonations and replace the “R” sound with the “L” sound—even though it’s the Japanese language that has that phonetic quirk.

    Mark (411533)

  77. Dohbiden: Don’t forget that Hawaii is in Asia.

    Huntsman lit into Obama a bit, at least for him. I think Romney and Perry did the best job explaining what’s wrong with Obama’s economic policies – picking winners and losers. When the viewer asked what will be the top industries of the next 10 years I though Romney gave an excellent answer: The market decides that. Then he went into Obama’s practice of investing taxpayer money in car battery makers, Solyndra etc. But they could also have brought up crony capitalism. They’ll need to bring that stuff up in the general if they’re serious about winning.

    Perry was good on Fast and Furious, saying if Holder really didn’t know about it he should be fired. But he should also have explained for the viewers what it is, even though most probably already knew, as practice for the general election, although there’ll likely be no questions on it in the general.

    Gerald A (9d78e8)

  78. we love this exaltation!

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  79. ______________________________________________

    I watched the debate and I’d willingly vote for anyone but Ron Paul.

    Maybe one reason I can’t get all wound up over the pluses or minuses of all the Republican candidates (the way Dustin and Colonel in particular have been doing) is because I’m so sickened by what’s currently in the White House and the thought of what 4 more years of that will be like. From that standpoint, I’d even take a chance with Paul.

    Mark (411533)

  80. Since DCSCA is here, everyone should know that Obama is Mr. Spock, i.e. a real cerebral type.

    Gerald A (9d78e8)

  81. Dangit. Missed the thread when the debate was on.

    But I gotta add: Love it when RPaul goes off the rails. That thar was hilarious. He looks like an old biddy trying to wave invisible elves off her lawn.

    Also… Tim Tebow. Heh.

    Book (1ecc3f)

  82. Mgabe is a tyrant who doesn’t care about his people.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  83. Mark, I’d vote Romney over Obama, of course.

    But Obama alone is not all I aspire to fix. Replacing Obama, alone, is a worthy cause, but the country is in serious trouble on spending and Romney won’t fix it, so I am passionately invested in finding someone who at least might fix it.

    I think that argument can wait until the general. Electability polls are not very reliable until far later in the game. Too late to matter unless the distance is vast (And it isn’t). The left seems to want to run against Romney like they wanted Mccain, who was the electable candidate.

    Right now, I think the difference between the top three candidates is substantial, and because the presidency is so significant, it makes a lot of sense to analyze those differences and select who would be the most effective president.

    I think Newt could be a great champion for solving various problems. Perry would lack on the bully pulpit. Gingrich could lapse ideologically. Perry is consistent 95% of the time and he’s strong. He walks the walk because he believes in it.

    Romney… I have very little faith in Romney. I read people well pretty much 100% of the time. Romney would go to the left as soon as he was nominated in ways that would prove very destructive. Less destructive than Obama, but more destructive to the GOP.

    The legacy of Romney in MA was an end to many terms of GOP governors and an open door on many new liberal policies. The legacy of domestic spending failures and TARP 1.0 was Barack Obama.

    It’s necessary for the GOP to present a conservative option, or we cede too much ground.

    Dustin (cb3719)

  84. Chris Matthews-I did not have sexual relations with the first black president Obama.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  85. I’d willingly vote for anyone but Ron Paul.

    Agree.

    Patterico (f724ca)

  86. Yea.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  87. OTOH, if they’re of the right, you’re allowed to do Charlie Chan impersonations and replace the “R” sound with the “L” sound—even though it’s the Japanese language that has that phonetic quirk.

    I thought it was both.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  88. Off topic, but Christopher Hitchens has died.

    Ag80 (ec45d6)

  89. that’s a real loss

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  90. I’d vote for Paul over 0bama. When 0bama was briefed on the cold realities of war and how dangerous it would be to carry out his promises, he saw reason and backed down on the most destructive of them. I see no reason to suppose Paul, who isn’t handicapped by a hatred for America, would do significantly worse. It wouldn’t be a great time for national security, but then this isn’t either. I’d rather vote for someone who actually believes in defending America, and especially for someone who would make John Bolton SecState, but if it’s Paul v 0bama I don’t think it’s even a question. On defense and foreign affairs they’re about equally dismal, while on almost everything else Paul is right.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  91. I know all you left coasters think pig farmers are dumb as posts but I bet Paul comes in third unless his goons turn the road signs.

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  92. Ag80,

    Just opened a thread. Thanks.

    Patterico (f724ca)

  93. Paul is insane.

    Patterico (f724ca)

  94. 72. Someone has ‘irritation’ on the mind. Hemorrhoids, or lesions, or chancres my guess.

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  95. Patterico…………..Paul is insane but sometimes he has lucid moments.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  96. That said Does anyone find Romney annoying?

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  97. He’s only insane on foreign affairs and the fed, more or less.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  98. No the fed should be ended.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  99. not the government but thed federal reserve.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  100. Milhouse, it’s hard to see how Ron Paul doesn’t already know most of that stuff. He’s been a politician since Obama was 12-13 years old.

    The guy is saying Israel is keeping people in concentration camps.

    It’s very unfortunate, as Ron Paul is effective on discussing some core realities and principles, and then just goes too far or on a wild tangent, and you realize he’s probably not all there upstairs. I think the guy is 100% sincere, and most of his supporters believe in something, rather than just opposing something, and he isn’t going to change his mind about any of it.

    That’s probably how the Republic will end. Not Paul specifically, but at some point, the issues we keep kicking down the road will reach a breaking point, and the person who righteously promises to solve them will also apply principles that cause geopolitical disaster. That could happen in a century or two, or it could happen in 2012 if we nominated Ron Paul.

    My point is that as we continue to take a pass on moderate conservative reforms, we up the stakes and up the stakes. The later we reform things, the worse it will be.

    Right now, getting medicare cut down to size would lead to riots. Getting social security merely fair to our kids would be the political equivalent of joining the Satanic party. Already, we are very close to making it impossible to recover.

    And yet, some of these candidates would make the 2012 election the least important election of my lifetime because their direction would be so similar to Obama’s. Better, sure, but not well distinguished beyond competence and ethics (Which I admit are significant).

    Dustin (cb3719)

  101. The fed may not be doing a great job, but it or something like it is probably necessary. And it isn’t some evil bilderburger conspiracy.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  102. Obama thinks pollution is evil but the sad thing is he thinks bankrupting the cola industry prevents pollution even though it doesn’t.

    Acid Rain is a liberal myth used to scare people into supporting crushing regulation.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  103. coal*

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  104. And even if we weren’t industrialized there still would be air pollution.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  105. Remember Rand said no chance he’d run if Dad was.

    Well, what happens if Dad is just stoking the fire for Sonny-boy? That’d mess Mitt up bad.

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  106. Not all home schoold people turn out messed up in the head.

    Tim Tebow is proof.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  107. “…the next President of the United States, Newt Gingrich, and the next Vice President…

    Pick anyone. Ralph Kramden would do fine.

    Kevin M (563f77)

  108. Silly DohBiden. Next you’ll be telling me that trees pollute

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  109. Anti-Government is often used interchangeably to mean White Supmreacist even though white supremacvists believe in a white only government.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  110. supremacists*

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  111. Where is Ghost to review Ron Paul’s performance in the debate?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  112. I swear if I keep drinking water everytime these idiots talk about the Iraq war I will have diabetes insipidus in 5 minutes.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  113. Yeah according to the left the jobs went to China because of slave labor.

    What idiots.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  114. Nikki Haley supports Mitt Romney who supports Amnesty and Gorebull Warming………….so sad.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  115. The government getting involved in economic affairs is an zealous overreach.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  116. All religions have people who force their views onto others.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  117. Those who vote for Obama deserves to be flogged with cheese.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  118. I do not agree with Anti-abortion people but I can understand what they say an dbelieve in their right to disagree.

    /My family members

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  119. and*

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  120. Denver says no to winter olympics because it brings pollution AKA snow and it offends people.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  121. I love how the left accuse someone of being less conservative and more racist.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  122. Being against Islamic supremacy is bigoted.

    Threatening to gut a Jew like a fish- Who are you ot judge Islam you bigot.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  123. NPR did a piece mocking Perry and his Tibow remark. Okay maybe there is a little pandering going on but I thought it was an opportunity for Perry to dig himself out of the hole he’s in. But he won’t get far.

    AZ Bob (7dbcdc)

  124. Herman Cain for Sec. of Defense

    ROFL

    The GOP clownshow, may it never end.

    B.Obama (e0fdd2)


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