Christie Not Running
[Posted by Karl]
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie will announce on Tuesday afternoon that he will not run for president, ending weeks of intense speculation about his future, a Republican source confirmed to National Journal. His decision means that the Republican presidential field is now all but set.
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A source close to Christie said that the governor will cite the limited time frame he would have to mount a presidential campaign and say his focus has always been on governing his state. He will also offer some criticism of President Obama’s leadership, according to the source.
It’s not just National Journal reporting it, it’s MSNBC, NRO’s Robert Costa, Politico’s Ben Smith, ABC News, the WaPo, and so on.
A fair number of people kept comparing Christie to the college football coach who denies he’s leaving for a new school until he scuttles out the back door. Running for President of the United States is a bit more complicated and involves a lot more in the way of staff and logistics. Plus, as Ed Morrissey notes, the latest poll shows “only moderate enthusiasm (pun intended) for a Christie candidacy at 42/34.”
I wish Gov. Christie well in his efforts in the Garden State and presume his efforts will be an asset to the GOP in the general election. I also hope he has additional security assigned to him, given that establishment media’s Cult of Christie is likely unhinged this morning. Jennifer Rubin could be on him like Princess Leia on Jabba the Hutt in mere seconds. Stay safe, guv.
–Karl
Ding!
Karl (f07e38) — 10/4/2011 @ 9:13 amSo 25% of the Right and leaners wasn’t enough to entice the lamb to slaughter.
Meanwhile WaPo has 55% of adults for any respiring alternative to the Shinola spokesmodel, 37% hoping for impeachment and trial.
Il Douche will abdicate after Labor Day, announcement from an insecure location in sub-Saharan Africa.
gary gulrud (d88477) — 10/4/2011 @ 9:32 amomg this changes everything
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 10/4/2011 @ 9:34 amThat’s an unfortunate bit of imagery!
hahahahahahaha
Dustin (b2fb78) — 10/4/2011 @ 9:41 amDustin,
I considered “like Virgil Sollozzo on Luca Brasi,” but Sollozo just helped restrain Brasi.
Karl (f07e38) — 10/4/2011 @ 9:47 amYes!!!!
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/4/2011 @ 9:57 amAnne Coulter will be on Mitt Romney like Moochelle Odrama on a plate of ribs.
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/4/2011 @ 9:58 amfeets,
I agree that is a bit of imagery we can do without.
I’m fine with Christie not running, myself, but I’m still hoping that “Secretariat” appears in July.
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 10/4/2011 @ 10:02 amDid he leave even a sliver of a chance that he will change his mind and run? After all the cable news shows will have to fill 30 minutes of every hour with other news if he is definitely out.
Is there a blonde woman is missing from a cruise ship or a Caribbean island?
MU789 (6ce96d) — 10/4/2011 @ 10:03 amWill Obama pander to the minihitler and his muslim supporters?
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/4/2011 @ 10:06 amJust watched his brief address. Not impressed. It was all about him.
“Not my time” …. well, that’s nice.
He could have said something like – “we’ve got a fine field of candidates” …. “I have every confidence that we will defeat Obama in 2012” …. etc etc
Seriously the size of this guy’s ego is challenged only by the size of his girth.
Miranda (4104db) — 10/4/2011 @ 10:09 amThe door is always open. Leave the light on. It’s only a cold sore.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 10/4/2011 @ 10:13 amYou stay classy mirandatard.
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/4/2011 @ 10:17 amIn the last couple of days it was reported that aides to New Jersey Governor Chris Christie were exploring, or informing themselves, of the technical details of what was required to run but they hadn’t contacted any political figures in Iowa. In other words no actual move to run, just finding out what it would take.
It was reported he was seriously considering this, because he had been asked by a number of people – Henry Kissinger, Nancy Reagan and former President George H.W. Bush (the elder) – to run for President. Of course you need some supporters under the age of 87.
Barbara Bush had called up Christie’s wife.
In 1968, Eugene McCarthy (I think) and Bobby Kennedy (definitely – he started after the New Hampshire primary in March) got in later.
It used to be easier to start a campaign. This is the result of campaign finance reform.
Christie maybe really was wavering (thanks to some support from a few historical figures) but I think the odds were at least 2/3 against him doing this.
I never saw what was so special about Chris Christie. He can’t be the only person with his political positions. The problem is, all the candidates are not good enough.
My own favorite would be whoever is writing the Wall Street Journal’s editorials.
Paul Gigot? No, it’s got to be somebody under him. Bob Bartley (October 12, 1937 – December 10, 2003) probably appointed an administrator when he had to retire in 2002.
I’ve only had two basic disagreements with the Wall Street Journal. One is monetary policy (at least in the past) where they tend to believe raising interest rates is a way to stop inflation, and the other is the fact that after a while they went too easy on Whitewater and the Vincent Foster case. The case was as strong as ever when it faded away.
Here’s an excellent quote from an editorial just from today:
“Congress can’t reduce real future liabilities because it would mean reducing fake current savings.”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204422404576594571813960198.html
(second paragraph from the end)
Who’s writing this? That’s maybe who should be President! Most politicians don’t seem to be aware of the problem much less acknowledging it.
And its not just on this – it’s on virtually every issue. With some exceptions of course. And there are things they miss, of course. But its better than anything else I’ve seen. So that’s a start.
BTW, the Weekly Standard I think had an article that touched on this but then gave no answer. This is a real problem, not just a stupid
procedural one. It’s a very real obstacle.
Here’s the article:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/medicare-monster_593652.html?nopager=1
“Why, then, did Ryan not propose this form of the premium-support model himself? The reason seems largely to be that the “scoring” conventions of the Congressional Budget Office made it impossible. Put simply, CBO refuses to estimate the effects of competition on prices—or indeed the effects of any policy on the behavior of consumers or providers. The agency scores only blunt changes in funding, but does not make economically informed projections about dynamic effects. So while CBO is perfectly happy to offer a (perfectly meaningless) projection of what the unemployment rate will be in the year 2083 (5 percent, by the way), it declines to assume that having insurers compete for customers will result in lower costs than having the government pay a universal preset rate for every medical procedure. The agency has acknowledged that its failure to account for such market effects is, as its director has put it, “a gap in our toolkit,” but it has so far not sought to fill that gap.
Other government analysts, like the actuary of the Medicare program, do model market effects, and have found that a premium-support reform would significantly reduce costs and improve efficiency. “It can get you to the lowest cost consistent with good quality of care,” the program’s chief actuary, Richard Foster, said at a congressional hearing in July. But because CBO does not score market effects, it cannot score a version of premium support based on competitive bidding. Because budget resolutions in the House of Representatives need to be scored by CBO, Ryan had to employ a preset spending level. The Rivlin-Domenici panel also wanted a plan that CBO could score, and so proceeded along the same lines.”
And then, after having correctly analyzed the cause of the problem, Yuval Levin then basically drops the subject, without proposing any solution!! The Congressional Budget process won’t go away by itself. You’ve got to repeal and replace the 1974 Budget Act.
By the way, here’s another article from the Weekly Standard http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/don-t-forget-obamacare_593644.html?nopager=1
Sammy Finkelman (9ab1e5) — 10/4/2011 @ 10:20 amSammy I love your posts but most of them end up making my head hurt. Much appreciated, though, regardless of the headache I now have.
Somewhat off-topic but something that really irritated me was how few news outlets, incl. conservative ones, failed to report how the actual ObamaCare act was a 2-part deal. Title II was the student loan reform legislation.
The Dems used the “savings” supposedly generated by the loan reforms to make the magic $138 billion reduction in the deficit, as scored by CBO. I wonder how many GOP establishment pundits actually read the summary of the CBO letter (19 pgs, maybe?). Apparently very few.
Even the supposedly serious analysts at conservative news sites just skim the surface of issues – it’s like they email each other ideas gleaned from AP articles, period.
Miranda (4104db) — 10/4/2011 @ 10:39 amFugetaboutit!
AZ Bob (7d2a2c) — 10/4/2011 @ 10:39 amThe Dems left tripwires wherever they settled, the Budget Act, static analysis models for revenue, the Inpoundment Act,
ian cormac (ed5f69) — 10/4/2011 @ 10:46 amWhy do some people have so much difficulty accepting NO! for an answer?
I frequently have door-to-door sales people (particularly from home-security and home-improvement contractors) with this attitude.
Another Drew - Restore the Republic / Obama Sucks! (685ad4) — 10/4/2011 @ 10:50 amI refer them to my solicitors: Hillerich & Bradsby!
It’s simple, Sammy.
He’s tough.
What the next president must do will be difficult, requiring a sense of core principles and strength against massive opposition.
Look at what Scott Walker faced in WI merely for getting teachers to chip in a bit to their retirement. What the next President will face is reforming entitlements and passing something along the lines of Paul Ryan’s roadmap.
If the next president fails, we are completely screwed as a country. ]
So a lot of people look at tough politicians who take the hear without flip flopping, and are willing to forgive many things. Christie has that one essential ingredient. He lacks so many ingredients that I want, but he has that one thing.
Dustin (b2fb78) — 10/4/2011 @ 11:15 amComment by Miranda — 10/4/2011 @ 10:39 am
Sammy I love your posts but most of them end up making my head hurt. Much appreciated, though, regardless of the headache I now have.
I have a way of rambling. I doin’t think it’s so bad. You could try mentally rewriting it.
Somewhat off-topic but something that really irritated me was how few news outlets, incl. conservative ones, failed to report how the actual ObamaCare act was a 2-part deal. Title II was the student loan reform legislation.
I didn’t know that. I know other things were thrown in, not just one thing, to make the budget math come out right. I thought the other big thing was the long term care insurance (THE CLASS ACT – something Senator ted Kennedy had been veryu interested in) This was the subject of the Wall Street Journal editorial I quoted.
This is where they collected (or enacted the collecting of) five more years worth of premiums than of payments. That was because of there is 10-year horizon of budget projections. So they usedd that money to make the cost of the bill comne ouyt lower.
The 10 year time frame is also the reason the Bush tax cuts originally expired in 2011. The law was enacted in 2001. So we had nine years of tax cutrs (including a gradual reduction in the estate tax with its abolishment for one year – 2010) with all the taxes being restored in 2011, which was still within the 10 year window. So because all the taxes came back in 2011 the estimate for the costw as lower.
There are now two things routinely figured into budget projections, which Congress actually bnever wants to see pass. Onbe is gradual cut inb Medicare reimbursements (which is now up to 25% or so) and the other is the full imoact of the Alternative Minimum Tax.
Another thing is the bill was the 1099 forms for everything spent.
Sammy Finkelman (d3daeb) — 10/4/2011 @ 12:21 pmAs Hannity says, who cares about someone that does not want to run?
Icy Texan (78dc30) — 10/4/2011 @ 1:24 pmDoes this mean Christie is running third party?
He’s left the door open!
Dustin (b2fb78) — 10/4/2011 @ 2:03 pmI reiterate:
Another Drew - Restore the Republic / Obama Sucks! (685ad4) — 10/4/2011 @ 2:06 pmWhy can’t you people take him at his word?
And that word has consistently been NO!
Does he actually have to “off” himself to stop the speculation?
he will not run for president
today….
If Romney falls to third in polls in later weeks – all bets are off
EricPWJohnson (2a58f7) — 10/4/2011 @ 2:16 pmGreat points made in your post #11, Miranda. It is all about him. The man sure loves to talk, as well. He is one guy who could talk Big Zero right off of the stage.
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/4/2011 @ 2:19 pmThe only thing Christie will be running for is the next extra large Meat Eater’s Pizza™ from Roundtable
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/4/2011 @ 2:22 pmYou really don’t like him, Haiku?
I find that really surprising. He’s one of the good guys.
Yeah, he’s got an ego and he enjoys being sought after. But all these other candidates have egos just as big. The ego on a guy who thinks he should run for Prez, knowing what that means for his family, or his own ability to have a semi-normal life, must be considerable. Romney, Perry, Cain, and the other seriously hoping to win candidates all have massive egos.
He’s good at it too! I wish we had a TV channel just playing Christie commentary 24/7.
Dustin (b2fb78) — 10/4/2011 @ 2:41 pmI like him well enough to be thankful he made the choice he did. Campaigning for 14 to 16 hours a day for the foreseeable future in his physical condition would be a death sentence.
And a little bit o’Christie goes a long way, no pun intended.
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/4/2011 @ 2:45 pmCol, thanks – I don’t particularly dislike Christie – I just want him to stay in New Jersey. Really he was acting like the popular girl leading her would-be suitors on – “oh, who will I pick for the prom”?
Miranda (4104db) — 10/4/2011 @ 2:48 pmNah, Christie acted like a guy who is sincerely interested in doing some good, and didn’t think he was ready to be President, which speaks well for his character and despite his apparent ego, shows he’s got it under control, more or less.
When you have former presidents and other folks begging you to run, after you have refused many times, and you pause and consider and then say ‘no’, that is not really leading anyone on. Christie is a breath of fresh air.
We have folks out there who do nothing but run for president for years on end, and Christie has a different idea of how to live his life.
This is another good day for Romney, but there’s more to life than that. Christie should complete his term of office successfully, showing us how leaders should handle blue states.
There is a ring of truth in that snark, but I notice Christie has the stamina to lead well. You aren’t wrong, but it’s a shame the skills one needs to persist as a candidate are so often shown to have absolutely nothing to do with being good at the job fought over.
Dustin (b2fb78) — 10/4/2011 @ 2:56 pmSammy, I wasn’t being critical …. except of my own limitations due to the fact that too many numbers make my head spin.
Here’s the analysis letter I was thinking of:
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/113xx/doc11379/AmendReconProp.pdf
Note esp.: “The reconciliation proposal also includes amendments to the Higher Education Act of 1965” (p 2) …. “CBO and JCT estimate that enacting both pieces of legislation—H.R. 3590 and the reconciliation proposal—would produce a net reduction in federal deficits of $143 billion over the 2010–2019 period as result of changes in
direct spending and revenues (see Table 1). That figure comprises $124 billion in net reductions deriving from the health care and revenue provisions and $19 billion in net reductions deriving from the education provisions. Approximately $114 billion of the total reduction would be onbudget; other effects related to Social Security revenues and spending as well as spending by the U.S. Postal Service are classified as off-budget.”
And: “On net, CBO estimates that the reconciliation proposal would reduce direct spending in the federal student loan programs by $28 billion over the 2010–2014 period and $58 billion over the 2010–2019 period.”
Recall that the news analysts & “journalists” kept reporting the bare #’s from CBO, w/o taking into account the assumptions behind the #’s – that “savings” were derived from the student loan part of the legislation, too. Not CBO’s fault at all – garbage in, garbage out, of course.
Miranda (4104db) — 10/4/2011 @ 2:57 pmThere is a ring of truth in that snark, but I notice Christie has the stamina to lead well. You aren’t wrong, but it’s a shame the skills one needs to persist as a candidate are so often shown to have absolutely nothing to do with being good at the job fought over.
Hey… let me be clear… although I make “fat man” jokes, I support the job Christie is doing in NJ – it’s a goddam miracle the state elected him in the first place – but the man is
John CandyOrca-fat and he’s a massive coronary waiting to happen.In the FatMan’s honor! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDp3Grz28mE
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/4/2011 @ 3:09 pmHey, I’m laughing at the jokes, btw.
And you’re right, it’s nothing short of a miracle NJ gave him a chance.
Dustin (b2fb78) — 10/4/2011 @ 3:13 pmI’m relieved he’s not running. If he did, he would spend a good portion of valuable time walking back his repeated declarations that he wouldn’t run. It would also give the Dems and the media an endless opportunity to point out this flip-flop. To appear so wishy-washy, or that this was all about him and how only he alone could save the country would not reflect well upon him.
Dana (4eca6e) — 10/4/2011 @ 3:52 pmSo Christie’s in the rear view mirror. Let’s focus on 2012. I have a cardboard box in my garage that would make a better president than the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
navyvet (db5856) — 10/4/2011 @ 4:04 pmHave a very well connected conservative friend who is a vet of GOP WH staffs, and has many friends on Capitol Hill.
Six months ago he was not enamored with Christie and didn’t think in the end he would be palatable to conservatives once they had a full view of his positions. My friend is a Jeb Bush/Rubio guy. But he described Christie as exactly what you would expect from the New Jersey GOP — Christie Todd Whitman with better lines and a better delivery.
shipwreckedcrew (dd1bdb) — 10/4/2011 @ 4:05 pmDana,
Good point. Doesn’t that also apply to picking Christie as VP? I don’t think it would keep a GOP nominee from picking Christie or keep Christie from accepting, but it would be awkward given Christie’s very public back-and-forth on this decision.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 10/4/2011 @ 4:08 pmDana, I have to wonder if Christie would have made a different decision today if he simply hadn’t made that promise.
I admit, Christie lost a few points with me just for publicly reconsidering. He shouldn’t have done that, IMO.
“Christie Todd Whitman with better lines and a better delivery.”
Perhaps. And that’s OK, because Chris Christie uses the bully pulpit with high effectiveness. It’s pure leadership. NJ is relatively fortunate today.
Dustin (b2fb78) — 10/4/2011 @ 4:17 pmWhoever wins, Christie said he wasn’t seeking the job of vice president.
“I just don’t think I have the personality to be asked,” he said. “I’m not looking for that job.”
No, I don’t see him as VP. I think he has far too strong a personality and would not be willing to settle for a VP slot. I rather think his incredibly strong will and outspoken way would work against him being in second position. Whoever the President is would perhaps have to spend more time than they’d like reining Christie as VP, in.
Dana (4eca6e) — 10/4/2011 @ 4:18 pmNot many politicians would turn down a VP slot. Not only is it a significant step up the political ladder, it’s hard to resist when your Party’s nominee picks you.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 10/4/2011 @ 4:21 pmI have to wonder if Christie would have made a different decision today if he simply hadn’t made that promise.
Dustin, to me it really does appear his full commitment at this point in time is to NJ. It’s his home state, he’s seen tremendous change for the better occur under his watch, and he has a full agenda of things he would still like to accomplish. If he continues on this path, by the time 2016 rolls around, he will have a solid experience with increasing knowledge and success at governance. To bring that to the table at the next presidential election would really position him as completely unassailable re experience, which is a huge selling point.
I think his little re-examination of whether to run or not was to play with the MSM. I’m sure he took some delight in owning the moment. The man has an ego.
Dana (4eca6e) — 10/4/2011 @ 4:23 pmWhoever wins, Christie said he wasn’t seeking the job of vice president.
“I just don’t think I have the personality to be asked,” he said. “I’m not looking for that job.”
DRJ, while it’s true the VP position is a big step up the ladder, I just don’t see Christie as one who is easily flattered, or takes it seriously. He seems rather aloof and low-need regarding strokes.
Also, again if he were to accept a VP slot, he would still have to walk back too many public declarations of wanting to stay in NJ and serve the citizenry there.
“I’m doing a job that I love in the state I grew up in,” said Christie.
“In the end, what I always felt was the right decision remains the right decision today — now is not my time.”
“New Jersey, whether you like it or not, you’re stuck with me,” he said, adding he has “unfinished business” as governor.
Christie left the door open to running in 2016 but shrugged off a question on whether he would consider being the 2012 vice presidential nominee, saying he did not believe “my personality is best suited to being number two.”
Dana (4eca6e) — 10/4/2011 @ 4:29 pmI’m in Moderation?? Me??
shipwreckedcrew (dd1bdb) — 10/4/2011 @ 4:31 pmTrue, true, and true.
It’s probably just the filters. Happens to everybody.
I really like DRJ’s idea of a Christie VP, but I have no insight into whether he’d take it. I think he adds a lot and gains a lot, but I’m no expert.
Dustin (b2fb78) — 10/4/2011 @ 4:50 pmChristie has great ability to ad lib before a hostile audience. That is very powerful in this era of TelePrompter candidates.
Mike K (8f3f19) — 10/4/2011 @ 4:56 pmI had read that a large of GOP big rollers were waiting on Christie to back him. I’m very curious, now that it’s final Christie is out, who will they support? Will it be Romney, no surprise there, or perhaps they might break tradition, and go with Cain who is now currently tied with Romney?
Dana (4eca6e) — 10/4/2011 @ 5:04 pmHow will the media handle the “vetting” of Cain through the primaries? (They’ve been pretty respectful and hands-off so far, as far as I can see.) It’ll be interesting to see how they manage the dilemma of covering a “wrong kind” of black man running against an obviously “failing” kind of black man.
They sure gave Clarence Thomas “the treatment”. But Thomas is in a different, less public milieu, and I doubt Cain will be a willing accomplice to their crap or will turn the other cheek.
elissa (889d86) — 10/4/2011 @ 5:20 pmeh, this isn’t good
http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2011/10/04/is-mitt-romney-committed-to-repealing-obamacare/
EricPWJohnson (2a58f7) — 10/4/2011 @ 5:38 pmChristie will for sure speak at the convention I think
that will make for genuinely good tv
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 10/4/2011 @ 5:53 pmNo Romney is not Eric we both agree that Romney is deplorable but so is your gal Scuzzyfatwa but I will hold my nose and vote for him I he gets the nominee.
Christie is a gun grabbing pro-sharia maniac.
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/4/2011 @ 6:03 pmI doubt many big GOP supporters who haven’t already committed will give more than nominal funds to any candidate, Dana. My guess is they will wait to see who is ahead after some caucuses/primaries, or maybe even until there is a nominee.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 10/4/2011 @ 6:08 pmDraft Paul Ryan.
(I’m stubborn, and he’s still the right guy.)
Beldar (4fa931) — 10/4/2011 @ 6:09 pmIf*
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/4/2011 @ 6:13 pmWould you be happy with Ryan as VP, Beldar, or only as President?
DRJ (a83b8b) — 10/4/2011 @ 6:21 pmanyone but obama…………oh there goes the silly notion of me staying home if Palin doesn’t get in.
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/4/2011 @ 6:25 pmI don’t know about that, DRJ. after all there is the issue of being assigned to a plum post for big financial backers. It’s not too late and that’s quite a lure. I mostly see Romney benefiting from such support.
Dana (4eca6e) — 10/4/2011 @ 6:26 pmThis was all about Christie, and not by his own doing, so I don’t begrudge the way he handled it, even not being a fan of his for president.
Maybe Ryan will be Secretariat, drafted by an otherwise split convention- on second thought, I still want Rubio/Jindahl. Ryan is young enough he can be 2028 after he has enjoyed watching his kids grow up.
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 10/4/2011 @ 6:42 pmRomney-Rubio in 2012!
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/4/2011 @ 6:47 pmit is now over
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/4/2011 @ 6:49 pmthe Fat Man has sung his song
it is sung for thee
he ate and ate at
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/4/2011 @ 6:50 pma hot dog stand dance around
to a rockin’ band
down at palisades park.
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/4/2011 @ 6:50 pmColonelHaiku,
If Romney’s the nominee, I agree he might pick Rubio. It balances so many things Romney needs.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 10/4/2011 @ 6:52 pmHis brother Lou knows
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/4/2011 @ 6:53 pmlightning be striking again
fook me aa-ooooo
milk and hot peppers in 2012!
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/4/2011 @ 6:55 pmsafe as milk & dirty sanchez in 2012!
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/4/2011 @ 6:56 pmDeplorable, that’s too harsh, deeply dissapointing,
ian cormac (ed5f69) — 10/4/2011 @ 6:57 pmthat’s more his speed. trying to take down Perry, without offering a real answer to the issues he has raised, albeit awkwardly, is a problem.
I just have a feeling that it is over for Perry… but colonel has been wrong before.
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/4/2011 @ 6:58 pmComment by shipwreckedcrew — 10/4/2011 @ 4:05 pm
Whitman with better lines?
Another Drew - Restore the Republic / Obama Sucks! (685ad4) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:01 pmShe didn’t exactly set the world (either in Trenton, or DC) on fire.
Rick Perry – Amanda Knox in 2012! You know you want them to get away with it!
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:01 pmmore…
Another Drew - Restore the Republic / Obama Sucks! (685ad4) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:02 pmAbout the best that can be said for these two GOP Gov’s from NJ, is that they weren’t as bad as their Dem predecessors.
Whitman with better lines?
She didn’t exactly set the world (either in Trenton, or DC) on fire.
Comment by Another Drew – Restore the Republic / Obama Sucks!
AD… I think he’s saying Christie is more curvaceous.
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:02 pmdad said if you the jalapeno peppers were too hot to drink milk or put some butter in your mouf cause water doesn’t help you need something fatty or oily
he also said I couldn’t go to Reed College cause it was too liberal
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:04 pm
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:04 pmyouDana, DRJ,
Seems like the Christie donors will go to Romney. It’ll be in tomorrow’s posting.
Karl (37b303) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:05 pmSomeone please help settle an argument that colonel has been having with his cousin for going on four decades: What is the female chorus singing in this song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyRqdzF8swY
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:06 pmAlso, re Christie/Whitman comparisons
I can’t think of a single thing in Whitman’s record compared to Christie’s taking on public sector unions/pensions and getting Dem leaders in Trenton to go along.
Karl (37b303) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:07 pmromney is absorbing everyone’s powers! Soon he will be super-saiyan romney!
god help us
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:07 pmRomney’s left Perry back at the drugstore. All hat… no cattle.
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:09 pmYes, DRJ… if Rubio accepts, it would be a hard ticket to beat.
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:11 pmThat makes him like the super-mutant, in the Wolverine origins film
ian cormac (ed5f69) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:11 pmKarl,
I’m not surprised. He’s more old guard GOP style. And as the NYT reminds us those important longtime party elders like Henry Kissinger and Nancy Reagan were amongst those trying to recruit Christie. They and others are bound to throw their support behind Romney now.
Dana (4eca6e) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:11 pmColonelHaiku (75),
“Let me out, ooh.”
Karl (37b303) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:12 pmDustin and Ian: you’d better cash those checks while they’re still good!
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:13 pmWrong, Karl! Banned in 48 states!
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:13 pmDana,
Teaser: There’s a picture in the Christie donor story that simply must be seen.
Karl (37b303) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:14 pmColonelHaiku,
I’m guessing that was your cousin’s position.
Karl (37b303) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:14 pmit’s a wanton entreaty coupled with she-wolf howl.
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:15 pmShe was colonel’s first cousin, so cooler heads prevailed…
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:16 pmTeaser: There’s a picture in the Christie donor story that simply must be seen.
Oh brother. Not another unearthed ubiquitous politician-in-the-bathroom-mirror photo shots! Say it ain’t so, Karl.
Dana (4eca6e) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:18 pmChristie Not Running
Jaysus… can you blame him?!?!
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:19 pmThey woulda felt that out at the Pine Barrens…
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:19 pmKarl,
I yield to Dana’s greater insight. Romney obviously benefits most from Christie bowing out but will all the GOP donors still on the sidelines immediately contribute to Romney? Perhaps so, but I only see Home Depot’s Langone and (maybe) David Koch, and I think he supported Romney in 2008.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:21 pmAnybody know what the surprise Bill Clinton supposedly has in store for one of the front-runner Republicans is? Supposed to be a real dilly.
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:21 pmAndrew Roberts, the historian, drops something tantalizing in the current Spectator. To read his “Diary,” go here. He attended a party on Martha’s Vineyard, a party also attended by the Clintons. “Bill told my wife Susan and me something rather shocking about one of the Republican presidential frontrunners, unrepeatable in a family magazine such as this. If it’s true, the race is still wide open . . .”
If the Democrats have bombs to drop on the Republican nominee — whoever he is — they will likely drop them a year from now: as Election Day approaches. In the meantime, the Republicans oughta — you know: vet.’
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/278993/sing-out-strong-c-jay-nordlinger
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:23 pmClinton’s a scumbag… but you knew that.
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:25 pmthe race is already still wide open Mr. Roberts are you not paying attention?
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:25 pmChristie will have the next 6-years to either set NJ on a fiscally prudent path, or he’ll be looking for a new job following this term by not showing the voters any indication that things will get better.
Another Drew - Restore the Republic / Obama Sucks! (685ad4) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:29 pmHis performance, so far, v. the PE Unions is significant, but it needs to be carried forward.
The Establishment will now have to find a new paramour.
Col, it would have been nice if the media had vetted our current occupant of the WH.
Another Drew - Restore the Republic / Obama Sucks! (685ad4) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:31 pmIf they had performed their “due diligence” better (or at all), perhaps we would not be undergoing our current level of difficulties.
is it really a lock that Christie gets re-elected?
that’s the state that keeps electing Lautenberg’s corpse
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:32 pmChristie wont be re-elected
EricPWJohnson (2a58f7) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:34 pmNot at all. You used a keyword that triggered the moderation filter. I’ve been out for much of the past several days with real-life stuff and am still getting caught up. It won’t take long for some reason… only about 1/4 of the comments I expected to see.
Slackers. 😉
Stashiu3 (601b7d) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:37 pmFirst of all colonel his name is not jaysus.
Second of all I agree with you for once.
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:39 pmStashiu3, are you the same fellow who battled with a certain Oregon psychopath? If so, I tip my hat.
Simon Jester (cd855e) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:40 pmFriends Friends Friendsy Friends can’t we all be Friends on patterico?
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:40 pmYeah Simon even if he were not I’d tip my hat anyways because hats make me itchy.
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:41 pmA small part compared to the efforts of many fine people in trying to rein in that particular idiot.
Stashiu3 (601b7d) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:44 pmFor some reason, that strikes me as possibly the funniest comment DohBiden’s ever made. Thank you Sir, much needed right now.
Stashiu3 (601b7d) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:45 pm“Jaysus… can you blame him?!?!”
Colonel – Looks like two pigs fightin’ in a tater sack.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 10/4/2011 @ 7:52 pmChristie can always lose weight but Obama will always be a dirty socialist what ran the economy into the ground and put everyone on food stamps and killed the space program and our hopes
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 10/4/2011 @ 8:05 pmToo true.
Vet the crap out of them. Let the chips fall where they may.
Dustin (b2fb78) — 10/4/2011 @ 8:06 pmYour welcome Stashiu.
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/4/2011 @ 8:08 pmFrankly, no, I don’t think it is. One way to deal with this would be to take a VP position, but I don’t think that’s how Christie thinks. He’s going to give the NJ voters a choice.
Dustin (b2fb78) — 10/4/2011 @ 8:10 pmCol, it would have been nice if the media had vetted our current occupant of the WH.
If they had performed their “due diligence” better (or at all), perhaps we would not be undergoing our current level of difficulties.
Comment by Another Drew
AD… the sheer incompetence, bias and lack of interest shown by the media in terms of the candidate Obama will one day be recognized for what it was: near-criminal negligence that led to a disaster.
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/4/2011 @ 8:10 pmHerman Cain, on “the View,” said that being gay is a “choice.” Another one bites the dust.
carlitos (49ef9f) — 10/4/2011 @ 8:11 pmJeb/Liz 2012!
‘Cause I still have my sweet Bush Cheney hat!
Dustin (b2fb78) — 10/4/2011 @ 8:13 pmso is being a bigot
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 10/4/2011 @ 8:13 pmChristie’s decision has set off a behind-the-scenes effort for other candidates to secure the big-money donors who had been waiting on Christie, among them hedge fund magnate Paul Singer and industrialist David Koch. Sources tell CBS News that Romney’s camp began efforts to woo Christie’s backers Tuesday morning, even before Christie formally announced his decision.
Romney must have been fairly confident of Christie’s decision and didn’t need to wait to hear it publicly made.
I have a hard time seeing big donors be willing to take a chance on Cain and his inexperience. And Perry already is being saddled with a racist label, which is the kiss of death these days – whether it’s true or not is almost irrelevant. Get the label and make it stick. None of the other candidates have the momentum and excitement behind them, rather they seem to be flaming out, or broke. Only Romney and Perry and Ron Paul have SuperPACS…
Dana (4eca6e) — 10/4/2011 @ 8:27 pmPerry is a lot of things but he’s not racist and Herman should apologize
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 10/4/2011 @ 8:31 pm______________________________________________
Herman Cain, on “the View,” said that being gay is a “choice.”
HF, I just happened to come across the following. Not sure if you’ve ever seen it before…
Mark (411533) — 10/4/2011 @ 8:32 pm==the sheer incompetence, bias and lack of interest shown by the media in terms of the candidate Obama will one day be recognized for what it was: near-criminal negligence that led to a disaster==
When he’s like 90, Ken Burns can do a neat retrospective film based on the 2008 Democratic presidential fiasco that was caused in large part by a corrupt media and their disinterest in vetting Barack Obama. They can show nice footage of what our country used to look like back before Obamabots elected a Socialist/Marxist to be U.S. president and he pushed race stress and class warfare and sicced union thugs on people and sold us to China. But we won’t need to watch PBS to see it because we lived it.
elissa (68d5a5) — 10/4/2011 @ 8:34 pmthat’s interesting Mr. Mark… and this “Rupert” certainly seems representative
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 10/4/2011 @ 8:35 pmSo is being a bigot.
Are you shatting me? 😯
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/4/2011 @ 8:40 pmI shat you not Mr. Biden
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 10/4/2011 @ 8:41 pmYes. I can understand a lot of reasons to not prefer the guy. There are a few things I wish I could change about him. But Rick Perry is definitely not racist. It’s a ridiculous charge, in fact.
And those who were willing to judge Perry without due diligence are the ones who were ‘insensitive’ to the issue of racism.
I like Cain, and I think he was ambushed by Amanpour on this. He just isn’t a pro politician. I think he already dismissed this issue, but it is very off putting.
Perry has taken one smear after another. For some reason, a lot of folks really are afraid of a Perry presidency. I think it’s because Perry has a spine. He’s the kind of guy to fire Karl Rove, or cut even a dearly politically favored agency’s budget. He is completely alien to the establishment. His softy squishy issues are not panders, they are his actual squishy principles, for better or worse.
Anyway, the guy wasn’t needle raping girls with Tardasil, he doesn’t want to ruin social security or abolish it, and he’s not racist, and in fact has quite a reputation for viewing folks based on the content of their character as well as relying heavily on great Texans who happen to be black.
Perry appears to suck at this. There’s no other way to say it, but in my opinion, anyone with a long and good record who can’t trounce Romney in a GOP primary, with the facts we’ve got, sucks at politics. I am surprised, and hope this turns around quick.
Despite my annoyance with Cain, I am strongly considering voting for him. I want a conservative nominee, and think the right will need to rally around one of them. I’ll probably vote for whichever conservative is leading.
Dustin (b2fb78) — 10/4/2011 @ 8:45 pmHappyfeet are you a crossdresser if so you can get the government to call your critics homophobic hatemongers.
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/4/2011 @ 8:47 pmI think simply going on the ‘View’ was a bigger mistake, you can ask McCain about that, when Whoopi asked whether ‘slavery was coming back’. I somehow
ian cormac (ed5f69) — 10/4/2011 @ 8:54 pmdon’t think so, about Burns, most recently comparing
prohibition, to the concern about illegal immigration.
Someone should ask Whoopi Cushion what the square root of 2,253,001 is?
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/4/2011 @ 8:56 pmI’ll never forget Mccain’s paralysis there.
These people act like race is real and powerful, and they will be electrocuted if they just tell the damn truth. No, Whoopi, and how dare you ignore how far this country has come, just to make a cheap comment like that.
Dustin (b2fb78) — 10/4/2011 @ 8:58 pmWhoopi Goldberg is the same tramp who had a one night stand with Katie Couric.
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/4/2011 @ 8:59 pm?
Year african slaves first brought to the new world?
Dustin (b2fb78) — 10/4/2011 @ 9:01 pmI do not doubt that race is a real thing, speciallythe last three quarters of a century after Plessy, but Whoopi’s question makes a mockery of a real concern,
ian cormac (ed5f69) — 10/4/2011 @ 9:09 pmMore of the light touch:
Peter Hamby
ian cormac (ed5f69) — 10/4/2011 @ 9:13 pmMore Romney in FL: Important to keep Social Security from “becoming a Perry-scheme”
8 hours ago via web
Race is as real as folks make it. It is not real in my world. Sometimes that has led to misunderstandings between myself and someone who cares about this race thing.
It occurs to me that that’s only been with non-Texans or children.
Dustin (b2fb78) — 10/4/2011 @ 9:15 pmNotice how the muslim jihadists are considere d the religious right of pakistan?
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/4/2011 @ 9:25 pmdad said if you the jalapeno peppers were too hot to drink milk or put some butter in your mouf cause water doesn’t help you need something fatty or oily
Comment by happyfeet — 10/4/2011 @ 7:04 pm
Tequila and warm beer work too, as the alcohol cut the oily capsaicin.
peedoffamerican (ee1de0) — 10/4/2011 @ 9:28 pmSomeone should ask Whoopi Cushion what the square root of 2,253,001 is?
Comment by DohBiden — 10/4/2011 @ 8:56 pm
That would be 1501.
peedoffamerican (ee1de0) — 10/4/2011 @ 9:30 pmconsidered*
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/4/2011 @ 9:34 pmAmazing.
If the media had a problem with the N word they should call out black people for saying it.
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/4/2011 @ 9:42 pmJoy Behar-Oh my god whoopi look at that big butt.
Whoopi Goldberg rapping-I like big butts and I cannot lie.
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/4/2011 @ 9:44 pmLooks like it’s 2008 all over again. They are destroying Perry with fake racism charges so that they can foist Romney upon us in order that they can then shred him just like that did to Juan McCain.
Gazzer (514478) — 10/4/2011 @ 9:54 pmIn an ideal world both Cain and Romney would have sided with Perry against the liars in a rare show of Republican unity. Both of them would have appeared quite Presidential, to boot. But no, it’s every man for himself. It will not end well.
Plus, even as we speak Van Jones and the Moronic Convergence in Manhattan are ginning up all sorts class warfare, anti Big Business/Wall Sreet sentiments to avert attention from Barry’s failures. However, it means that Romney will personify the exact type of opponent they are seeking to demonize.
Gazzer (514478) — 10/4/2011 @ 10:21 pmHow convenient!
While I’m not a “girther,” that is CLEARLY what Christie saw when he “looked in the mirror” at his chances. Buhbye.
tifosa (555db2) — 10/5/2011 @ 3:45 amcash those checks and fast, cormac!
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/5/2011 @ 6:35 am==However, it means that Romney will personify the exact type of opponent they are seeking to demonize. How convenient==
Gazzer- you have make a very important point. This is how Romney will be portrayed in Dem attack ads and in the compliant media.
With regard to Perry, Cain could help a lot (and I’d trust him a whole lot more) if he’d come out and say, “Look, I disagree with Rick Perry on several important issues, but he is not racist and I decry and condemn all those who, for political purposes, try to paint him as such. I mean this message for those who say it, and also those in the media who blindly or intentionally repeat it.” Such a statement from Cain would show me that he is of presidential mettle (and in my opinion it would help him even more than it would help his primary opponent Perry).
Because they have no real economic message and a weak president to defend in 2012 the Dems have pushed race baiting and class envy into the landscape. They will be fomenting that and creating that at every possible opportunity. It is a very, very unhealthy thing for America.
elissa (6a6d2d) — 10/5/2011 @ 6:37 amCain hasn’t shown he has anywhere near that kind of class elissa
race-baiting creep-o
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 10/5/2011 @ 6:39 amHerman Cain, and every single GOP candidate, should read this article about the Leftist/Democrat Media Complex’s deliberate efforts to destroy our hopes in ’12, and how to fight back:
http://biggovernment.com/kschlichter/2011/10/04/conservative-judo-how-to-fight-the-smears-and-take-the-offensive/
It is ridiculous for Cain to reflexively respond to fictional accounts of Perry’s family’s alleged “racism” by a ROCK, published by the WashComPost. I like Herman Cain but he needs to wise up fast – the media is the enemy. They are NOT our friends. They are NOT fair, not objective, not “journalists”. They are propaganda artists & outlets for the Obama machine, with very few exceptions.
You had better believe, with so very much at stake, that there is a successor to JournoList, and they must be feeling desperate. I’m reminded of the heckler at an Obama fundraiser, screaming about the anti-Christ, when two articles (can’t remember where) within 24 hrs, also mentioned the anti-Christ theme as it related to the Obama campaign & Tea Party-type opponents.
They are playing for big bucks and big power. They are not fooling around. This election is not a game. Lives are at stake – ref. Agent Brian Terry.
Miranda (4104db) — 10/5/2011 @ 7:17 amMiranda my understanding is it was a VERY oppressive rock
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 10/5/2011 @ 7:20 amThe first Journolist never went away, take the ‘Rock’ story (Iowahawk had an interesting take on that) and the ‘Koch are evil, eleventy’
ian cormac (ed5f69) — 10/5/2011 @ 7:20 amMiranda, re: post #146… I like the cut of your jib!
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/5/2011 @ 7:24 amTifosa’s mama is so fat when she turns around she is thrown a welcome back party.
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/5/2011 @ 7:27 amPost #144… well said, elissa! Dimocrats are an unhealthy lot. Let them tie themselves to the nitwit Wall St. protests and let them promote class warfare. We’ll need to spotlight everything they’re doing and why they’re doing it.
They got nuthin’!
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/5/2011 @ 7:28 amawwww, sweet Doh, thanx dude! 😀
tifosa (555db2) — 10/5/2011 @ 7:29 amPerry needs to once and for all prove he’s more articulate than a rock.
ColonelHaiku (a4b693) — 10/5/2011 @ 7:30 amWish it could be Obama vs a Tea, but alas. Even the Repubs won’t nominate a science-denier….
tifosa (555db2) — 10/5/2011 @ 7:31 amReagan supported in state intuition for illegals while I like him he was wrong.
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/5/2011 @ 7:36 amWhere did Perry deny science you cunt?
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/5/2011 @ 8:25 amScience=chicken little rhetoric about gorebull warming and formerly global cooling while not practicing what you preach.
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/5/2011 @ 8:26 amyeh doh, THAT’S what the dems want to run against
tifosa (555db2) — 10/5/2011 @ 9:02 amTifosa’s string of asshattery remains unbroken.
JD (0b8a2b) — 10/5/2011 @ 9:20 amJD,
What else can you expect from an asshat?
peedoffamerican (ee1de0) — 10/5/2011 @ 4:20 pmbreaking news (6:10 PM EST)
Sarah Palin is also not running.
But that was even more certain.
Sammy Finkelman (d3daeb) — 10/5/2011 @ 4:44 pmYeah because being gay is something your forced to do at gunpoint…………………Carlitos are you stupid or putting in a lot of effort?
Tifosa starred in a gay porn with George Soros.
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/6/2011 @ 8:54 amOr Gayness is genetic even.
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/6/2011 @ 8:55 am