What’s Up With NYT’s Jen Preston & Ron Brynaert?
[Guest post by Lee Stranahan]
In a sudden burst of Tweets, former Raw Story editor Ron Brynaert has claimed that he’s been working behind the scenes with New York Times reporter Jenn Preston for ‘weeks’ on #Weinergate and that he was promised money.
This also might explain some bizarre behavior that has slowed down the discovery the real person behind much of the shenanigans.
It started with…
ronbryn Ron Brynaert
Dear @thepubliceditor this story is missing credit for my work with@NYT_JenPreston & I’ve been led on about getting $nytimes.com/2011/06/18/nyr…
And it goes on from there. Here are a few screen captures of Ron’s angry tweet (read bottom to top) – and Patterico should have more information on this soon.
Full disclosure – I’ve been very clear that I have been talking to Preston for weeks, as well – at no time was money offered. Additionally, Preston clearly used elements of my public work in her stories and I was never credited or acknowledged. I spoke to Ron on the phone several days ago – he did not mention that he was working with Preston, but seems to have relayed some of my conversation with her.
– Lee Stranahan
Not a happy camper, is he?
Dianna (23319c) — 6/28/2011 @ 1:40 pmLee
clearly you should have asked for money. 🙂
(kidding)
good post.
Aaron Worthing (e7d72e) — 6/28/2011 @ 1:42 pmNo. we should try to figure out what their motivation is…and hug it out.
Blackburnsghost (2ffb0c) — 6/28/2011 @ 1:44 pmEveryone noticed Preston was leeching off your first Betty and Veronica articles in her article. I noticed that she practically lifted your precise language.
It is the jungle law of the bigger animal eats the prey caught by a smaller predator. Academics do it to not-so-well-known academics, while movie producers lift and rework novel plots without giving credit or compensation to the author. It is increasingly more difficult to protect your work in many situations. If you want some insurance, get a contract.
bmertz (d77c52) — 6/28/2011 @ 1:47 pmThe phrase coming undone springs to mind. (Meanwhile, I continue to firmly believe that Twitter is the devil.)
elissa (2eec7e) — 6/28/2011 @ 1:48 pmLee , are they trying to divert your attention?
Temper Tantrum (02fe1b) — 6/28/2011 @ 1:48 pmMy god, so much whining. Seriously, for one who has tried to convince us he really is all that, shouldn’t he have been smarter about this and realized that a journalist with a capital J, like Preston, might use him?
I, who am not even a journalist with a lower-case j know to be very guarded with any leads and info and to be very, very discerning with those I entrusted with it…
I’m beginning to think Ronbryn is not who he has led me to believe he is.
Dana (4eca6e) — 6/28/2011 @ 1:51 pmMy initial reaction to ronbryn was that he was a whiny little mendoucheous MFM-type. I love it when I am proven right. Did you know he is a weiner expert?
JD (29e1cd) — 6/28/2011 @ 2:09 pmI think it is funny, laugh out loud funny, that he trusted david freaking corn.
JD (b98cae) — 6/28/2011 @ 2:18 pmA Raw Story reporter collecting unemployment? Yeah, that sounds about right.
libor (da6eb2) — 6/28/2011 @ 2:32 pmThe only thing funnier would be if he was an illegal alien to boot! Call Wapo, they’re looking for another hack!
∅ (e7577d) — 6/28/2011 @ 2:34 pmRon seems to spell his last name with an “N”. “Brynaert” not “Bryaert”.
Kevin M (73dcc9) — 6/28/2011 @ 2:43 pmwhat happened to that guy’s mouth?
koam (62b38e) — 6/28/2011 @ 2:46 pmBe sure to see
http://www.jennifergeorge.com/weiner.html#2011-06-27_Update
http://www.jennifergeorge.com/weiner.html#2011-06-27_Update
koam (62b38e) — 6/28/2011 @ 2:49 pmCan you say what elements exactly you feel were taken from your work? You posted a link on Twitter to your story speculating about Better and Veronica where you said the following:
First of all, there’s a pretty huge difference between speculating about where Betty and Veronica actually are and proving that their IDs were fake. Lot’s of people speculate about a lot of things, but they’re not cited by journalists who do the actual work that takes it beyond speculation. Second, in your post, you’re pretty clearly wondering about Betty and Veronica because you were asked about them by reporters. So the reason you speculated about it in the first place is because reporters were already asking those questions. So what exactly should you be credited with discovering?
On the other hand, if it turns out that “Jenay” from MA was behind the accounts, I’d agree that you should be credited with that story.
AJS (c25c87) — 6/28/2011 @ 2:56 pmMemo to Ron Bryaert:
Get a fucking job and stop living off the dole while pursuing a needle in a haystack on my dime.
… but a perfect example of a liberal in the media. Those two deserve each other. Each living off someone else’s work. How ironic.
Sponge Bob Square Pants (786e37) — 6/28/2011 @ 3:51 pmA Raw Story reporter collecting unemployment? Yeah, that sounds about right.
Comment by libor — 6/28/2011 @ 2:32 pm
Say it with me:
Shovel Ready Job!
Kaisersoze (c86eb0) — 6/28/2011 @ 4:24 pmAs JD points out, it’s kind of funny to hear someone who did work for such far-left sources as Mother Jones, David Corn, and the New York Times complain that he isn’t fairly compensated. What, did he expect these groups/people to sully themselves with the Free Market? Clearly he should get with the program and understand that one donates one’s time to help combat the nefarious workings of the far right-wing blah, blah, blah. . .
JVW (24ee9a) — 6/28/2011 @ 4:32 pmAnd of course, being of the angry left this Brynaert fellow is completely incapable of making his point without resorting to explicatives as in the first post that Lee lists above.
JVW (24ee9a) — 6/28/2011 @ 4:35 pmI can not take joy in anybody being unemployed and unable to find work. How awful.
This is an interesting tweet:
MayBee (081489) — 6/28/2011 @ 4:41 pmronbryn Ron Brynaert
I meant to say one of these three puppets is probably behind all the death threats: @Artist_R or @NealRauhauser or @johnreid9
34 minutes ago
Oh, and Ron, if you are reading here:
The problem with Gennette and her starchild suspicions isn’t that she was suspicious. It’s that she acted on her suspicions- and claims to have encouraged a married US Congressman to act on HER suspicions. How did that turn out for them?
MayBee (081489) — 6/28/2011 @ 4:43 pmMaybee– well he be the “expert” on Weinergate.
elissa (2eec7e) — 6/28/2011 @ 4:44 pmNeal Rauhauser is one nasty twist.
JD (f74193) — 6/28/2011 @ 5:17 pmElissa – he is an expert on wieners.
JD (f74193) — 6/28/2011 @ 5:18 pmDoes this mean that the bias in the NYT piece that delivered an important piece of news, that the IDs that Patricia Reid had sent to Tommy were fakes (and that Tommy & Colby hadn’t figured it out), is possibly not the bias of Jen Preston, but is instead Ron’s storyline that he brought to Preston as research?
Recall that the NYT headline
and lead paragraphs
lead to the conclusion that the girls’ mission was unquestionably anti-Weiner.
But in this piece, https://patterico.com/2011/06/20/questions-for-nyts-jen-preston-and-mediaites-tommy-christopher/
Patterico illustrates that the author’s thought-leadershio narrows the realm of motives to only ones related to intentionally ruining Weiner.
And in this stunning follow-up, https://patterico.com/2011/06/21/journalists-christopher-and-preston-finally-admit-they-dont-know-a-thing/ there’s are admissions from both Preston and Tommy that the true motives haven’t been proven, probably because all possibilities hadn’t been considered.
Is this what Ron was behind?
Also troubling in the Preston article is the implication that Nikki started asking Gennette about Weiner.
In fact, Gennette has confirmed on these pages that it was Gennette who brought up the topic of Weiner with Nikki. A misleading omission that leads the reader to the wrong conclusion.
Is Ron claiming that part of the story? or was that all Jen?
koam (62b38e) — 6/28/2011 @ 5:18 pmHundreds of hours since June 13th? It’s only 15 days since then. 360 hours all told, and that’s if he hasn’t slept at all.
If I’ve told you once, I’ve told you a hundred thousand times: don’t exaggerate
Chuck Bartowski (4c6c0c) — 6/28/2011 @ 5:18 pmJD@5:18–
*shudder*
elissa (2eec7e) — 6/28/2011 @ 5:27 pmA misleading omission that leads the reader to the wrong conclusion.
From Gennette “I only sent Nikki 5 emails!” Cordova?
From Gennette “No I have not had any contact with anyone from Weiner’s office or anyone representing Weiner” Cordova?
Misleading omission? The devil you say.
MayBee (081489) — 6/28/2011 @ 5:32 pmkoam- that same story has Gennette looking back to realize that Nikki couldn’t have been in high school
MayBee (081489) — 6/28/2011 @ 5:33 pm.
small group of self-described conservatives was monitoring his exchanges with women on Twitter
Never got this “monitoring” crap. They weren’t tapping his phones, they were reading his public Twitter feed. And sending Tweets to him and some of the women. It’s called “participating in a conversation.” When Preston goes on Twitter and interacts with people and asks her stupid questions, is she “monitoring” them?
Average Joe (24fc2b) — 6/28/2011 @ 6:34 pmAnd Weiner sent his dicpic to 50,000 people. If Democrat urinates in the middle of Yankee stadium, are the conservatives in the stands “monitoring” him?
Average Joe (24fc2b) — 6/28/2011 @ 6:37 pmThis is seriously screwed up stuff.
Enigmaticore (491183) — 6/28/2011 @ 6:56 pmThis story is close to entering “Twin Peaks” territory.
“The owls are not what they seem.”
Enigmaticore (491183) — 6/28/2011 @ 7:04 pmThis poor fella is I hope sadder and wiser now. And anyone also who might have otherwise thought him worth hiring in the future.
SarahW (af7312) — 6/28/2011 @ 7:18 pmWhat’s your estimation for the novel and later movie release?
bmertz (d77c52) — 6/28/2011 @ 7:21 pmAaron’s on the proverbial radio, in case y’all want something to listen to. He’s on fire, too.
Dustin (c16eca) — 6/28/2011 @ 7:24 pmRon Brynaert is cracking up in public, right before our very eyes. He’s in full meltdown mode. It’s both fascinating to watch his twitter feed, and sad. Almost like a frenzied manic state.
Right now he’s turning on Jen Prestion. Can’t say Preston doesn’t deserve it. She definitely lied to Jennifer George about the reason she wanted to talk to her.
lamchopsl (a91fe8) — 6/28/2011 @ 8:19 pmLambchops – ronbryn, that dishonest Weiner expert poofter in going Chernobyl in public, no?
JD (f74193) — 6/28/2011 @ 8:28 pmJD.
Worse, the radioactive fallout is spreading across the entire continent: coast to coast.
I sense that he’s pissed because Lee was following the same leads and arriving at the same doorsteps around the time he was. That seemed to queer his gig as Jen Preston’s main Weiner researcher. Toss in an unhealthy dose of delusions of grandeur, and general paranoia, and… KABOOM.
Still it’s sad to watch.
lamchopsl (a91fe8) — 6/28/2011 @ 8:44 pmI feel bad for him. Betrayed by those who he thought were on his side, and perhaps a bit too taken with his source.
MayBee (081489) — 6/28/2011 @ 8:48 pmThe poofter hearts Seattle Snooks.
JD (f74193) — 6/28/2011 @ 8:55 pmMayBee.
Been reading his earlier tweets. There’s a snotty mean streak that just seems to run naturally through him, so I guess he was hanging with the appropriate crowd.
lamchopsl (a91fe8) — 6/28/2011 @ 8:55 pmlamchops
Would you be willing to post his tweets? For those of us not on twitter. I like to read them,
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It’s late and I need to attending to other matters, but I can’t stop following this story. It is addictive from all these constant plotline twists. This is a serious situation but I’ll admit that I’m having a good time waiting for the next revelation. (Sorry Mike, your part has not been fun. But I think you can understand the fascination with where the story has gone). Someone has to turn this into a novel.
I can’t believe more people aren’t plugged in here to follow as well. We are participants in a real mystery and crime. I am mesmerized, but also missing sleep.
bmertz (d77c52) — 6/28/2011 @ 8:57 pmbmertz–you need not be a member of twitter. just click the link at the top of the thread for ronbryn. it’ll take a bit to load but you can read his side of the twitter conversations.
elissa (4fdb9f) — 6/28/2011 @ 9:02 pmbmertz.
This should get you there:
http://twitter.com/#!/ronbryn
lamchopsl (a91fe8) — 6/28/2011 @ 9:06 pmJust copy and past the entire link. You don’t need to sign up or sign in.
lamchopsl (a91fe8) — 6/28/2011 @ 9:08 pmThanks lamchops and elissa. I’ll do that.
bmertz (d77c52) — 6/28/2011 @ 9:13 pmGC is whining to ronny. I’ll let her comments speak for themselves
Gennette,
Did you not tell me in the comments, that you lied to Nikki? Quote:” No, I lied”. Would you like the link to your post?
bmertz (d77c52) — 6/28/2011 @ 9:30 pmNot to be a dick or anything, but “poofter”? Really? We’re better than that aren’t we?
RB (ee4e2f) — 6/28/2011 @ 9:32 pmThe invading her privacy thing is interesting, considering she keeps un-protecting her Tweets to participate in these big discussions. Otherwise, she goes behind the wall. Which is fine. A private person might stay there.
MayBee (081489) — 6/28/2011 @ 9:32 pmIt’s weird to see people on Twitter ask others to stop talking about them. We’ve seen it with GNC, Ethel, and now Jen Preston. Privately the Reids tried the same thing.
Does that work?
People in the center of stories rarely like being talked about, right?
MayBee (081489) — 6/28/2011 @ 9:37 pmOH… MY… GOD!!!!
Somebody said the word Poofter!!!!!!!!!
Quick, somebody Call the thought police!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Round up the usual suspects!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Censor! Censor! Where’s the censor????
Anybody got a bar of soap, looks like somebody needs their mouth washed out.
Help me, help me, my ears are bleeding…
lamchopsl (a91fe8) — 6/28/2011 @ 9:44 pmthere once was a soi disant poofter
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 6/28/2011 @ 9:47 pmwhat said guys just please tell me the troofter
am i really so gay
that you name me that way
or is it just cause I act so aloofter
Jeez, sorry to ruffle the feathers. It’s just something I more commonly associate with the Left after reading the crap tbat gets tossed at Breitbart on a daily basis. I just figured we were the grownups, is all. Forget I said anything.
RB (ee4e2f) — 6/28/2011 @ 9:53 pmNo offense taken, RB. You are probably right. Ronbryn is not a poofter, he is a lying psychotic mendoucheous twatwaffle.
JD (7299b9) — 6/29/2011 @ 6:43 amhappyfeet
bmertz (d77c52) — 6/29/2011 @ 10:58 amif you ever publish (or if you already do) I will be first in line to buy the book. Sometimes I search comments just to read your hilarious one-liners and haiku. It starts my day off with laughter.
I don’t understand the recent few folks who are angry about different POVs that have been on this blog for ages. I got my head bitten clean off for noting the potential porn is beneficial, and a few other little spats like that.
You should want different POVs. There is nothing wrong with a lefty being here, and nothing wrong with a righty saying something that suggests they are not your ideal pure rightie.
Don’t worry so much about whether they are following your rules.
Dustin (c16eca) — 6/29/2011 @ 11:01 amHohophobes!
Denounced and condemned.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 6/29/2011 @ 9:10 pm