New Contributor?
If everything works out, there may be a new voice here soon, in addition to Aaron’s. Someone whose work has been linked here in numerous recent posts. An honest person who understands how badly the media has been screwing up lately.
I gave it away, didn’t I?
It’s Bill Maher, isn’t it…
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 3/25/2011 @ 11:56 pmIt’s Michael Moore, isn’t it…
Pieter Nosworthy (e55bb6) — 3/26/2011 @ 12:28 amOlbermann finally found a home!
Icy Texan (b75196) — 3/26/2011 @ 12:29 amAl Franken?
Reverend Wright?
Justin Bieber?
Please tell us! The agony of wondering is destroying our fragile minds!!!
Pieter Nosworthy (e55bb6) — 3/26/2011 @ 12:31 amI got a suspicion, but if I were to name the name, you’d accuse me of huffing something strange…
J.
Jay Tea (75a340) — 3/26/2011 @ 2:16 amIts a bird – its a plane – its a (Lee)r
EricPWJohnson (c88554) — 3/26/2011 @ 3:11 amJimmy Carter?
Jack (f9fe53) — 3/26/2011 @ 4:11 amKeith Olbermann needs a job, I hear.
Mike (d17d15) — 3/26/2011 @ 4:39 amYou are going to give IMP, Yelverton, and epwj space to allow themselves acces to a wider audience?
JD (318f81) — 3/26/2011 @ 4:43 amLee Stranahan is my guess, but you could also consider those fabulously talented and unbiased media icons Katie Couric and Dan Rather.
Calypso Louie Farrakhan (f84281) — 3/26/2011 @ 4:47 amJames O’Keefe? But I think he’s locked up by Andy Breitbart.
Corky Boyd (d787be) — 3/26/2011 @ 5:12 amThe Times (either one,) doesn’t dissapoint in their
narciso (b545d5) — 3/26/2011 @ 6:15 amsupport of the Libya ‘kinetic military operation’
Let’s see. Robert Novak? Naw, don’t think so, even though he’s no longer under contract elsewhere.
Juan Williams?
Beldar (a197ec) — 3/26/2011 @ 6:24 amAny day now, Salem or someone like that is going to come calling, and Patterico will be taking the Boeing.
Beldar (a197ec) — 3/26/2011 @ 6:25 amRachel Maddow? Ummm … oh oh oh … I know, one of them Freedom Fighters from Libya [what MSNBC/Lawrence O’Donnel is now calling members of al Qaeda (you cain’t make dees sheet up)].
Still, I think the Bieb might be innerestin (note to self, check/research recent comments by same, on abortion).
Elmo (0ffb7a) — 3/26/2011 @ 6:31 amIt’s obviously the LATimes.
Newtons.Bit (922da8) — 3/26/2011 @ 6:35 amDuke Nukem?
Dustin (c16eca) — 3/26/2011 @ 7:03 amA double saw on Stranahan.
SaintGeorgeGentile (8c5894) — 3/26/2011 @ 7:06 amBrother Bradley?
ropelight (9e6f80) — 3/26/2011 @ 7:08 amHmmm… not already blogging here… doesn’t like media bias… linked here sometimes…
It’s Patterico?
Dustin (c16eca) — 3/26/2011 @ 7:16 amKatie Couric?
BT (74cbec) — 3/26/2011 @ 7:29 amUm let me guess it’s Charlie Sheen?
WINNING!
DohBiden (984d23) — 3/26/2011 @ 7:32 amThat’s cool. You need better NCAA Bracket analysis at this site.
East Bay Jay (19f566) — 3/26/2011 @ 7:49 amA couple people guessed right, but Dustin’s answer was funniest.
Patterico (c218bd) — 3/26/2011 @ 8:00 amActually, wouldn’t Jeff Goldstein fit the description of someone who understands how badly the media have been screwing up? 🙂
The snarky Dana (5a4fb2) — 3/26/2011 @ 8:02 amWell TSD … if’n there was like a side blog kinda deal/thingy … here, in side bar. Called: Your Turn in the Barrel. Sure, then go ‘head an invite JiffGee (bbbut I’d warn ’bout puttin anyteeng in dee hole, without foyst puttin’ on a raincoat … word).
Elmo (23ad53) — 3/26/2011 @ 8:22 amlol’ing, especially Newton@16.
Dagwood (56072d) — 3/26/2011 @ 8:30 amIt’s me!!!
Am I right?
MayBee (081489) — 3/26/2011 @ 8:31 amYou should consider Sean Penn…
(Interesting story, btw.)
Angeleno (776ec5) — 3/26/2011 @ 8:46 amI was gonna say Rick Sanchez, but I’ve got to agree that Dustin’s deftly placed needle is the winner.
SteveG (cc5dc9) — 3/26/2011 @ 8:46 amThere was no way the host could see this one turning around on him – until – zing… right in the butt cheek.
Well done.
(Tastes bad … or in bad taste)
Geraldine Ferraro?
Cuzz well, back in the day, voted for Mondale and Flip Wilson’s alter ego [don’t hate (either way)]. And I gotta tellya, even as a (then) flamin lib, wuz pist. When, not even a week after the Federal election … she was on the tube … peddlin’ Pepsi.
Elmo (23ad53) — 3/26/2011 @ 8:58 amWelcome to Patterico, Charles Johnson! I hope I don’t have to register to comment here from now on.
JVW (615582) — 3/26/2011 @ 9:13 amI vote for MayBee. And DRJ.
JÐ (0d2ffc) — 3/26/2011 @ 9:26 amLOL. I wanted to make a Charles Johnson joke, but couldn’t think of anything.
If DRJ came back, even if just to blog about border security, that would be awesome.
Dustin (c16eca) — 3/26/2011 @ 9:28 amnew friends yay we can has a song!
happyfeet (ab5779) — 3/26/2011 @ 9:40 amDustin,
Charles Johnson now is the joke.
Someone should really tell him.
Mitch (e40959) — 3/26/2011 @ 9:42 amBig Get — congrats Patrick.
shipwreckedcrew (436eab) — 3/26/2011 @ 9:43 amKatie Couric?
Have Blue (854a6e) — 3/26/2011 @ 9:47 amThat’s what i get for not reading the comments. Sorry BT.
Have Blue (854a6e) — 3/26/2011 @ 9:54 amNo problem Have Blue, great minds think alike, but I am crushed we didn’t even get an honorable mention in the funny dept. Oh well our genius goes unrecognized. I have to say that Dustin’s comment was inspired.
BT (74cbec) — 3/26/2011 @ 10:00 amWell thanks, although this is unexpected, it’s far from undeserved, and much too long in coming. This can only make both our blogs smarter.
What’s my login password?
docweasel (3914b8) — 3/26/2011 @ 10:14 amUh, right.
Patterico (c218bd) — 3/26/2011 @ 10:19 amThat Huckabee is EVERYWHERE!!!
Icy Texan (b75196) — 3/26/2011 @ 10:22 amIt’s good to know that Eric Boehlert will NOT be hitting-up us txpayers for 99+ weeks of unemployment compensation.
Icy Texan (b75196) — 3/26/2011 @ 10:24 amSarah Palin would fit the bill, too, although happyfeet might walk. Never mind Patterico’s head exploding.
Kevin M (298030) — 3/26/2011 @ 10:28 amAnd y’all were afraid that Christine O’Donnell wouldn’t land on her feet . . .
Icy Texan (b75196) — 3/26/2011 @ 10:34 amI would wike to sincerely thank Pattewico for this opportunity to share my fwank and honest opinions on the most pwessing issues of the day.
Toga party at my place to celebwate! Whoo-hoo!!!
Barney Frank (b75196) — 3/26/2011 @ 10:38 amI promise to not call Lee a nozzle of douche, or its variants. Unless he deserves it.
JÐ (822109) — 3/26/2011 @ 10:41 amDustin wins da Internet.
SPQR (26be8b) — 3/26/2011 @ 10:44 amLet me again say that I will be a more frequent presence here in the near future. I have been crushed under with work more than usual lately.
Patterico (c218bd) — 3/26/2011 @ 10:46 amNo, don’t apologize, Patterico. You have to feed the family first, and give us our free ice cream second.
SPQR (26be8b) — 3/26/2011 @ 10:47 amPat: i appreciate the offer but i told you i’d have to think about it first.
give me a call and we can talk some more.
redc1c4 (fb8750) — 3/26/2011 @ 1:20 pmAnyone else want to pretend they’re the person?
Patterico (c218bd) — 3/26/2011 @ 1:33 pmI’m pretending like pretending I’m not the person will make everyone think I am.
SPQR (26be8b) — 3/26/2011 @ 1:46 pmmmm, i guess I can’t pretend its me, right? 🙂
Aaron Worthing (73a7ea) — 3/26/2011 @ 2:02 pmPatterico – Have your people call my people. We’ll do lunch.
daleyrocks (9b57b3) — 3/26/2011 @ 2:27 pmkman?
Because why not-he’s half the content around here.
madawaskan (fd190b) — 3/26/2011 @ 2:33 pmGO BUTLER
JD (318f81) — 3/26/2011 @ 2:50 pmThis is turning out to be one heckuva day. Brad Stevens should run against Barcky.
JD (318f81) — 3/26/2011 @ 3:05 pmIt’s just an honor to be nominated.
What? Oh.
Nevermind.
Ag80 (efea1d) — 3/26/2011 @ 3:11 pmyou’re just trying to trick me into putting down my cupcake
happyfeet (ab5779) — 3/26/2011 @ 6:59 pmEric, my tocayo, have you ever said thing, one thing that is verifiably true, in the last year and a half, I grant it is possible but I doubt it. picachu, irony is not your strong suit.
narciso (b545d5) — 3/26/2011 @ 7:03 pmoh sure turn it all around on me will you
happyfeet (ab5779) — 3/26/2011 @ 7:12 pmCongratulations, Patterico. This should be the start of some lively discussions, and I look forward to reading and participating in them.
DRJ (fdd243) — 3/26/2011 @ 7:14 pmSep away from the cupcake. Slowly.
JD (318f81) — 3/26/2011 @ 7:18 pmwhat have we come to around here cupcakes are off limits
what’s a man got if he don’t got his cupcake?
happyfeet (ab5779) — 3/26/2011 @ 7:24 pmSo, changing the subject…Mr. Feet, what is your favorite delicious high fructose corn syrup containing corporate candy bar?
Simon Jester (ec90b3) — 3/26/2011 @ 7:27 pmI favor the 100 Grand bar, that was recently devalued.
Simon Jester (ec90b3) — 3/26/2011 @ 7:28 pmcorporate candy bar… I like the classic hershey chockit bar the best cause it’s very America – the before America not the effed up Barack Obama one – it went to war many many times in various forms and also it has been a stalwart candy bar in peacetime as well. Plus it is very tasty. My dad used to use hershey bars as part of his fudge recipe at christmas and he made the best fudge you had to keep it in the frigerator which is different than the kind my aunt makes which just gets wrapped in foil and set on the counter.
happyfeet (ab5779) — 3/26/2011 @ 7:34 pmNow I am hungry.
JD (318f81) — 3/26/2011 @ 7:45 pmAll American candy? Try NECCO wafers. Pure sugary goodness.
Simon Jester (ec90b3) — 3/26/2011 @ 8:22 pmI have heard tell I have to go on restriction though after I finish moving
But then after that i will be off restriction and I can have the tasty wafers
happyfeet (ab5779) — 3/26/2011 @ 8:44 pmThe 100 grand bar was devalued?
Oh i get it.
DohBiden (984d23) — 3/26/2011 @ 9:29 pmJiminy Crickets, who is the new contributor?! It can’t be someone imaginary otherwise I’d know it was maybe my best friend who just happens to live in my sock drawer.
This site needs focus and leadership for those of us who desperately need such. I guess therapy and a chance to quit drinking wouldn’t hurt either. Rise up and demand an answer you fobs! Charge the gates of Patterico’s stronghold! Demand…
Hold on…spilled my drink.
I still think the newest and bestest contributor is going to be Santa.
Pieter Nosworthy (e55bb6) — 3/26/2011 @ 11:29 pmI heart santa
happyfeet (ab5779) — 3/27/2011 @ 5:41 amSo you can go on and on about what I said an what I’m wrong about – even though – thats not what I said and thats not the facts – I at least try to back up what I’m just saying with facts – not opinion pieces
facts
EricPWJohnson (c7e31d) — 3/27/2011 @ 5:45 amHappyfeet
Did you know that there are soo many christians in Doha and the UAE that Santa is at the malls
Qadariwi had a cow!
An my wife got season greetings christmas cards from Qatargas, the Emiri Diwan, Rasgas, The Abu Dhabi Petroleum Company, and several other Arab firms
And Christmas is a holiday here
What some people dont know is that the Sunni think Jesus is an extremely important prophet, right under mohammed accoring to the guys at the cultural centers – when I first moved here would hear Jesus constantly during the harsh arabic sermons blasted through the loudspeakers on Fridy morningsn – which I though they were cursing christians but a colleague who speaks gulf arabic told me otherwise
go figure
EricPWJohnson (c7e31d) — 3/27/2011 @ 5:51 amMr Jacobs wrote:
First, the esteemed Mr Worthing says that I suffer from multiple personality disorder, and now I’ve been reduced to a “whatever” . . . and nearly to tears, except, of course, that I’m far to manly to cry.
Alas! The crosses I have to bear would bow the back of Atlas, but I shall persevere.
The Dana with hurted feelings (5a4fb2) — 3/27/2011 @ 5:57 amsanta is a uniter not a divider
happyfeet (ab5779) — 3/27/2011 @ 6:11 amHappyFeet
There are alot of canadians, brits, and Americans in the UAE they account for almost 12% of the population, add in the rest of the Europeans, then there are even more
Given the fact that there are 9 full sized American, Canadian and British high schools in the UAE with enrollments of 500 to over 1000, they have started two athletic (actually an informal third as well)
These school are starting to implement football (the real football where the only kicking is done by the team sissy)
76 churches are undter construion or permit in the UAE to go along with the 71 that are currently there.
Saudi has/is discussing 3 permits for catholic cathererals
Wierd to drive my kids to youth group past a giant mosque and camel ranch
EricPWJohnson (c7e31d) — 3/27/2011 @ 6:19 amback to packing for Jakarta
moving sucks, moving sucks more foriegn country to foriegn country
Try getting shipping manifests in arabic, bhasa, and english stamped an notarized by a texan embassy worker from 1 – 3 with a behive hairdo and attitude to match
joy
EricPWJohnson (c7e31d) — 3/27/2011 @ 6:22 amhave a good move I didn’t even know bhasa was a language nobody tells me anything
happyfeet (ab5779) — 3/27/2011 @ 6:48 amThat is a ridiculous argument. You want to see examples of people injured or killed by thrown rocks? Look at Israel, where they’ve had rather a lot of that. If someone is under assault with a deadly weapon, they have the right to respond with deadly force; end of story. There is nothing more to consider. I don’t give a damn how old the assailant is, or how much more lethal the victim’s own weapon is than the assailant’s. If someone’s shooting at you with a tiny .22 are you obliged to respond with a similar gun, or are you allowed to use whatever weapon you happen to have on hand? The answer is obvious.
How is that relevant? It’s hardly surprising when policemen’s bosses are willing to risk their lives rather than look bad to voters. Just look at the ridiculous ROE our forces have to deal with in Afghanistan. (Or look at Israel for ridiculous ROE, and consequent dead soldiers and policemen, or civilians sitting in prison for defending themselves.)
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 3/27/2011 @ 6:51 ampolicemen are expensive whiny union thug pension whores they can take on a spot of risk I think
happyfeet (ab5779) — 3/27/2011 @ 7:05 amThat’s precisely what their bosses are thinking. But it’s wrong, it’s fundamentally immoral, to put someone in that position; to tell someone that they must stand there and let themselves be subjected to a potentially deadly attack, and not defend themselves with the means they have to hand.
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 3/27/2011 @ 7:10 amThe second amendment applies even to policemen.
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 3/27/2011 @ 7:10 amtrue you’re absolutely right I’m just saying I’m not getting get too excited about it
we know who these people are now, and it makes a difference
my side your side my side your side
happyfeet (ab5779) — 3/27/2011 @ 7:15 amWow, I missed a lot in the last few days. On vacation in Sacto. Congratulations, Patterico, for your new blogger coup.
And ropelight, thank you for the mention! I’d be honored, but it’s not me.
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (13faa5) — 3/27/2011 @ 7:21 amHappyfeet, I’m no fan of policemen as a class. If I were on a jury, I would treat the uncorroborated word of a policeman the same way I’d treat the uncorroborated word of an admitted felon. And policing is not even one of the ten most dangerous jobs in America. I think it’s reasonable to put policemen in danger for the public good; it’s part of their job. But having done so, and having provided them with the means to defend themselves, it’s wrong, fundamentally and inherently wrong, to order them not to do so. Policemen are people too.
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 3/27/2011 @ 7:26 amit’s Bahasa, it’s the dialect Obama claims to understand, because of his time there,
narciso (b545d5) — 3/27/2011 @ 8:11 amHere’s an idea: since Obama seems to have so much spare time, why doesn’t Eric get him to translate his shipping documents for him?
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 3/27/2011 @ 8:15 amI just deleted about 20 comments that were basically people arguing with each other about incredibly stupid interpersonal things. I doubt anyone will miss them. I would appreciate it if you would all make an effort not to leave more comments like that, so I will not have to waste my time deleting them.
Let’s try to give Lee (did I say that out loud?) the impression that we can engage in an adult discussion.
Patterico (c218bd) — 3/27/2011 @ 8:40 amderp!
happyfeet (ab5779) — 3/27/2011 @ 8:57 amActually, to be clear, I don’t mean to cast aspersions on all the participants equally. I just thought the discussion as a whole was dragging down the thread.
Patterico (c218bd) — 3/27/2011 @ 9:48 amLet me be clear i will not cast aspersions on any of the participants but i inherited you all from the bush admin.
DohBiden (984d23) — 3/27/2011 @ 10:05 amNarcisco
Bahasa bhasa basa phasa, its spelled a bunch of ways – someone told me it means language – so the Bahasa Language translates to “language language”
Not looking forward to it, there’s rumors of hardliners staging a coup soon, just in time for our move
EricPWJohnson (c7e31d) — 3/27/2011 @ 10:08 amYa but now “put down the saffron scented cupcake” which was a classic before it wasn’t a classic is gone forever into the ether.
I think this means I can steal it.
madawaskan (fd190b) — 3/27/2011 @ 10:14 amNow begins the oppression.
daleyrocks (9b57b3) — 3/27/2011 @ 10:27 amMilhouse,
The guy shot a child, thats pretty much the end all of the story. The guy with the glock who was uninjured got to tell his story after the fact, cause the child is dead. The video came out and showed a different story than what the BP said in his statement.
But its all up to the civil courts now, it will be interesting to see what comes out, if there is more than witness x vs witness y.
I agree that unless there is compelling evidence that the cop did wrong then by all means you cant take a stand on it, but I still wonder why no one else fired when there were other agents just yards away.
EricPWJohnson (c7e31d) — 3/27/2011 @ 10:31 amMurderer, he is. Murdering BP agent. Child killer, end of story.
JD (318f81) — 3/27/2011 @ 10:41 amNo, that is not the end all of the story. There is no minimum age below which a person is immune from being killed in self defense. This meme is not just nonsense but evil nonsense, nonsense that can and has killed people, and will continue to kill people until it is eradicated from human discourse. Every time an Israeli soldier or civilian is excoriated for defending himself against “a mere child” wielding a rock or a firebomb, this meme is to blame, and so is everyone who propagates it.
And perhaps that’s a good thing; perhaps had the child not been dead the guy with the glock would have been instead.
Maybe because they too were captive of the “all children are immune from self defense” meme, and/or were very aware of what would happen to them if they should defend themselves. There is a chilling effect whenever someone is dragged through an arduous and soul-destroying process for doing the right thing; the next person in the same situation hestitates when he shouldn’t, and bad things happen.
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 3/27/2011 @ 10:46 amhave you noticed whenever kids get shot everybody has to make a big-ass deal out of it?
It’s a thing.
happyfeet (ab5779) — 3/27/2011 @ 10:55 amI’ve been in a couple of rock fights and lots of citrus fights all of which I usually lost because I don’t have a great arm.
Green lemons hurt, but I took a rock that luckily glanced off the side of my head that was headed for my face but it still knocked me almost out.
I was maybe 12.
Even a young kid can easily put a velocity on a stone that could kill.
Ideally the BP should have put about three rubber bullets into his torso and put a stop to the nonsense without killing him. But throwing rocks can be deadly and a gun is deadly… so don’t throw rocks at people… especially people with guns.
SteveG (cc5dc9) — 3/27/2011 @ 11:05 amDarwin 101
Border Patrol Agents are people too.
Somebody told me that once.
daleyrocks (9b57b3) — 3/27/2011 @ 11:05 amMr. Feets – Should you have an emergency and call 911, do you want some expensive whiny union thug pension whore policemen responding or would you prefer knowing they laughed at your call and pretended it never happened?
daleyrocks (9b57b3) — 3/27/2011 @ 11:09 amSteveG
You know the kid they caught the one he was dragging towards the alleged rock throwers while firing – I wonder if they let him go?
The BP agent also had a helmet, safety googles, kevlar vest, and a glock – the other guy had a light cotton t-shirt and a cell phone
EricPWJohnson (c7e31d) — 3/27/2011 @ 11:14 amI can all too easily imagine our corrupt union thug police forces picking and choosing who they protect and serve based on political considerations.
It’s who they are.
happyfeet (ab5779) — 3/27/2011 @ 11:17 amYes because a BP agent sot a child we should support amnesty for ilegal aliens right EWPJ?
DohBiden (984d23) — 3/27/2011 @ 11:20 amillegal*
DohBiden (984d23) — 3/27/2011 @ 11:21 amDohbiden
Or should we use the anger over immigration to poison the minds of hard working bordr patrol agents in a tense job as to create something bigger than, just a bunch of crappy kids playing run tag the fence?
Dead Kid, unhurt adult.
both lives changed forever, needlessly and tragically
EricPWJohnson (c7e31d) — 3/27/2011 @ 11:23 amOfftopic trolling, still?
SPQR (26be8b) — 3/27/2011 @ 11:28 amNot to worry, SPQR. 12% is greater than 50%, after all.
Simon Jester (9f3d33) — 3/27/2011 @ 11:28 amI disagree, EPWJ. We should shoot the next person who attacks our border patrol.
They weren’t playing games. They were trying to control our borders by using deadly force. They were smart to predict that most agents would let them get away with it, but in this case, I’m happy to say the attacker was put in the ground where he belongs.
It’s very tragic, but the result was among the better ones. We will never have peace until those attacking our border actually expect to be shot as a result.
Let’s publicize this story as much as possible, and also make clear that it will be repeated every time someone uses violence against Americans at our border. Then, the violence will stop.
Dustin (c16eca) — 3/27/2011 @ 11:29 amAnyways i look forward to the new guy posting.
DohBiden (984d23) — 3/27/2011 @ 11:29 amDustin
No one was throwing rocks btw (witness accounts said the rocks were thrown by small children up on the bridge not by the older boys in the creek), they ran past the agent, he hollared at them, I’m sure they were at the height of disrespect in their reply and then he shot one – according to the dead childs mother – several times.
Winesses called 911 – Americans to report it as a murder.
We have 22000 plus border patrol agents that didnt shoot a child this year, or an adult.
Interjecting our anger into situational events gets a bp agents life ruined and another families as well.
EricPWJohnson (c7e31d) — 3/27/2011 @ 11:36 amA shame. I do so enjoy watching JD work so hard to ignore what JeffyG did.
Hell, screw getting JeffyG to apologize, get JD to admit that it even happened.
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 3/27/2011 @ 11:38 amyou’re gonna get deleted again mister
happyfeet (ab5779) — 3/27/2011 @ 11:39 amSimon
55% of the UAE are Catholic Filipinos and Hindu indians, nepalese, and vietnamese workers
there are at best 30 to 40% arabs in the UAE of which 35% maybe muslim
Same for Doha and the numbers for Oman and Kuwait are closely held but follow similar patterns (Bahrain as well but they dont have the massive oil wealth to bring in the big numbers like everyone else)
EricPWJohnson (c7e31d) — 3/27/2011 @ 11:39 amOh, Eric. Do you have a source for that? Seriously? And do those people have any political impact, at all? Honestly, you are such a goon sometimes. Go take a pill.
Remember, folks jump on your nonsense often. It’s not just me, or JD. Lots and lots of people take you to school, and you don’t respond well. I love the bit where you tell people, when called on your nonsense, to “google” things, or that you really are just reporting what you heard. Please. Again, don’t you have better things to do? Like build a solid and honest reputation here?
But then, everyone is wrong here but you, I guess.
You are like an ill-tempered Weeble.
Simon Jester (9f3d33) — 3/27/2011 @ 11:43 amWe have 22000 plus border patrol agents that didnt shoot a child this year, or an adult.
This kind of idiocy should be painful.
I see Scottie feels like throwing another temper tantrum again. How cute.
Simon – millions of Jews in Iran too. Christian majority in UAE.
JD (318f81) — 3/27/2011 @ 11:44 amJD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr83YRkbXpw
Simon Jester (9f3d33) — 3/27/2011 @ 11:46 amI just thought the discussion as a whole was dragging down the thread.
A shame that a post essentially announcing and welcoming Lee S. on board got so derailed. Let’s hope he’s not re-thinking the new gig…
In the big picture I realize I’m just one insignificant reader but I have to say that any thread that bizarrely ends up focusing on anything to do with Jeff G – and by anyone – loses me. Completely.
Dana (9f3823) — 3/27/2011 @ 11:46 amSimon
A basic google of the UAE demographics will show that in the last clear census – 1982 emiraties were 19% of the population and that christians were 8%. given the massive 21.21 percent population swap influx due to the total westernization of the UAE, more christians than are reported are there.
Its always been a quiet concern that they are being overwhelmed by sheer numbers, all of the modern gulf states are in this situation.
EricPWJohnson (c7e31d) — 3/27/2011 @ 11:54 amIts interesting to me Simon, I was just ointing out things that were pointed out to me, if you think I was trying to be something else – I wasnt
EricPWJohnson (c7e31d) — 3/27/2011 @ 11:56 amcall to prayers in 5 go to go to bed
EricPWJohnson (c7e31d) — 3/27/2011 @ 11:56 amEricPW – How many synagogues are there in the oh so tolerant UAE?
daleyrocks (9b57b3) — 3/27/2011 @ 11:58 amThe prior contention was majority Christian. Aggressively not so.
JD (318f81) — 3/27/2011 @ 11:59 amI guess that he is just spending 50% of his time sleeping.
Simon Jester (9f3d33) — 3/27/2011 @ 11:59 amRemember folks, the Weeble wrote that Christians were in the majority.
But there is nothing new here. And Dana makes a related point.
Simon Jester (9f3d33) — 3/27/2011 @ 12:00 pm“Google it” comes to mind:
http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2007/90223.htm
But this only get the Weeble a-weeblin’!
Simon Jester (9f3d33) — 3/27/2011 @ 12:03 pmSee? It’s like ballet…
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 3/27/2011 @ 12:08 pmPathetic.
DohBiden (984d23) — 3/27/2011 @ 12:46 pmRandom oberservations (mostly unappreciated, I’m sure)
Is Milhouse John Yoo? Come on, professor, just post under your real name. After all, you and your nut-cracking ideas are popular here.
Mind you, here the professor defends not the circumstances of child murder, but child murder in general! And, then he engages in some exciting dehumanization: Not only are “they” dangerous, but even “their” children and their rocks are dangerous! Jesus, I hope this Milhouse guy doesn’t drive by my family reunion and start shooting at all the children of immigrants he sees wandering about.
Oh, and mention the word “nuts” and then notice the inanities Mr. jd has left here. Does Goldstein have you on retainer? Are you willfully ignorant of everything you do not like or understand or just willfully ignorant of everything? It’s so nice to see other people finally see you as you are.
Is Lee Strahan the same kind of “democrat” Tammy Bruce is? As in, calls himself one, but has the political beliefs no one on the Left actually has? I thought all that guaranteed a nice, fat salary from Fox News. Pat must pay well….OMG, he’s doing it for free? Breitbart must pay well
timb (449046) — 3/27/2011 @ 1:04 pmtimb, yes, indeed. Stranahan has political beliefs that no one on the Left actually has.
They are called “honesty” and “integrity”.
SPQR (26be8b) — 3/27/2011 @ 1:14 pmMr Stranahan strikes me as a Democrat, not a liberal. The difference is incredible…
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 3/27/2011 @ 1:20 pmshoot*
DohBiden (984d23) — 3/27/2011 @ 1:59 pmNothing is more sure to bring the constitutional scholar/ambulance chaser stalkerish creepy thing out from under its rock than scottie and epwj venting their spleens. Couple that with the aggressively dishonest characterization of what milhouse’s words are point were, and you have standard classic timmah.
JÐ (2647ac) — 3/27/2011 @ 2:13 pmLet us just save that creepy thing the effort and denounce and condemn everyone for their RACIsAM right now.
JÐ (109425) — 3/27/2011 @ 2:22 pmI’m a stalker? Well, at least I don’t threaten people and then falsely claim I did it because they was talkin’ about my family…
So there’s that.
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 3/27/2011 @ 2:26 pmUm. Scott? I know you are angry right now, but I think JD was referring to timb.
Simon Jester (c8876d) — 3/27/2011 @ 2:31 pmApparently reading comprehension ain’t your buddy either. I was not referring to you.
JÐ (109425) — 3/27/2011 @ 2:33 pmFolks, Patterico has made a couple of polite suggestions that we get off topic, and too personal, from time to time. I’m guilty of that too. Mea maxima culpa.
But since it is Patterico’s blog….well, it was his suggestion. And Patterico has his hands full doing work that is more important than trollfests and personal disagreements and such. Again, I’m guilty of not being my best, too.
I have no solution. I just want to support the blog.
Simon Jester (c8876d) — 3/27/2011 @ 2:50 pmI will endeavor to not point out that epwj is a Superhero of Stupid, and that scottie actively holds a grudge because I was not banned for not doing something, and that timmah is creepy. I shall endeavor.
JÐ (3ad5b9) — 3/27/2011 @ 2:54 pmAnd I’ll do my best to not point out that Jumbo-sized Douchebag refuses to even admit that his buddy JeffyG – whose blog he donates to – threatened me with bodily harm and then publicly lied, claiming he did so because I had talked about his family.
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 3/27/2011 @ 4:21 pmI love how some people would like to be able to dictate how others spend their time, and money.
Patterico – do you have an issue with me? Because scottie and epwj apparently have an issue with me participating. Maybe you should ban me for reading other blogs, it might make them happy.
JÐ (306f5d) — 3/27/2011 @ 4:32 pmStiiiiiiill not even admitting those things happened.
Hell, I gave up the dream of you saying something about how it was wrong for JeffyG to do that stuff a while ago.
I mean, why would you when you won’t even admit that he did it?
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 3/27/2011 @ 4:38 pmSo assuming we’re right that Lee Stranahan will soon be a Patterico guest blogger, I think this is his bio and he sounds very interesting:
This comment thread hasn’t showcased our best qualities but I hope he’ll find us much more open-minded than the Huffington Post folks.
DRJ (fdd243) — 3/27/2011 @ 4:44 pmWhy don’t you tell everyone how you tried to get me banned in one of your little temper tantrums, scottie?
I believe he has since apologized for including you in the group of people that brought his family into it. I do not recall ever denying it happened, we simply had a different view of it, you wanted to be a martyr, and I did not view it as a credible threat, which has been shown to be quite accurate given the time that has passed, and lack of action. But I understand that you want to continue to bear the burden of being the unafraid man who was threatened, and that in doing so, you chose to use me as the proxy. You really should grow up, but you seem to relish this role.
JÐ (3ad5b9) — 3/27/2011 @ 4:50 pmOh, I admitted to THAT back when I returned. You must have missed that.
Yeah, I wanted you banned because you refused to so much as suggest to JeffyG that what he did was wrong. You have also, since that incident, continued to donate to his blog, unless I am mistaken.
But like I said, I gave up on hoping you’d act like a decent person. God knows you have given ample evidence to show you aren’t capable.
Really. Yeah, I can see how you might not think he was at all serious.
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 3/27/2011 @ 5:09 pmAnd no, I don’t believe I’ll be taking JeffyG up on his offer, since it wouldn’t be his call as to whether or not I got arrested and brought up on charges.
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 3/27/2011 @ 5:11 pmDRJ, thank you.
Mr. Jacobs, why not take all this up with Patterico? You did before, right? What happened then? I take that back: it is none of our business.
This is why, sir, with all due respect, you need to talk to Patterico about it. Trying to pick fights here doesn’t help anything at all, as DRJ is classily trying to suggest.
And if you decide to be rude to me, remember that I have never been rude to you. Ever. It’s not my blog, and it isn’t yours.
Don’t you think Patterico has better things to do than mediate this kind of thing? Truly? Given what he does for a living?
If you want to fight with JD, why not pick some other electronic medium to do so?
Simon Jester (c8876d) — 3/27/2011 @ 5:23 pmIt is disrespectful to the post writers and selfish for commenters to continue a personal fight on a well-respected blog like this one. To use the comment section as a venue to throw mud at each other does not enhance nor speak well of the true quality of commenters here. In fact, it completely distracts from the quality of the post and derails the thread itself.
What’s completely ironic is as these feuds continue the only winner is the one sitting back amused at how the mere mention of his name and blog controls the reactions of so many. That’s the one sitting in the catbird seat. What a shame.
Dana (9f3823) — 3/27/2011 @ 5:25 pmDana, thank you as well. Please don’t give up on this blog. Your voice (and DRJ’s, too) are important.
Simon Jester (c8876d) — 3/27/2011 @ 5:27 pmWell said, Dana.
DRJ (fdd243) — 3/27/2011 @ 5:28 pmI apologize to those that ran across this. In my defense, I did not pick this fight 😉
JD (318f81) — 3/27/2011 @ 5:32 pmMaybe the owner of this blog will remove some of this, essentially private, issue?
Simon Jester (c8876d) — 3/27/2011 @ 5:35 pmhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-stranahan/say-it-aint-so-john-why-p_b_115165.html
narciso (b545d5) — 3/27/2011 @ 5:42 pmNo need to memory hole it. What does that serve? I have rough edges 😉
JÐ (0d2ffc) — 3/27/2011 @ 5:47 pmScott – I believe Jeff even apologized as recently as last night in his non-obsessive, above the fray, Update #9 to the latest contretemps. Of course you’ll have to wade through all the usual high brow comments over there to find it, that is if he hasn’t deleted it yet.
Hi Joe!
daleyrocks (9b57b3) — 3/27/2011 @ 5:47 pmI think Scott Jacobs had every reason to be upset at someone who threatened him. Eric Johnson tells me the spoiling for a fight has resumed over there, with the host calling Scott foul and insulting names and once again talking about wanting to physically fight Scott.
Meanwhile JD tells us he “believes” Scott was offered an apology for the dishonest suggestion that Scott had brought anyone’s family into it. No link to the apology is offered. I remember no such apology. I know only of resumed threats toward Scott.
There. I have been forced into the position of either deleting all these comments, letting stand what I believe to be a false defense of someone who threatened Scott repeatedly, or correcting that false defense. I opted for the last. Which will probably be good for about 12 more posts at a blog I don’t read any more, hosted by someone who assures the world he is not obsessed with me.
Do I have a problem with your reading other blogs, JD? No. Read whatever you want. Do I have a problem with this discussion taking place here? I believe I already said I did. My suggestion would be that if you want to blame Scott for how he reacted to a physical threat to him, repeated recently, you take that discussion to e-mail. Same goes for any attempt to minimize the threats made to him. I don’t care to see that effort at minimizing taking place on my bandwidth.
Patterico (c218bd) — 3/27/2011 @ 5:49 pmSimon, I already spent a bunch of time removing comments on this thread earlier. And asking that people stop all the personal sniping.
Patterico (c218bd) — 3/27/2011 @ 5:52 pmHi, Lee! Still want to post here?
If this kind of thing breaks out on your first post I will be even more disappointed than I already am.
Patterico (c218bd) — 3/27/2011 @ 5:54 pmFine, but I do not believe I am minimizing anything.
Jeff G. posted on 3/26 @ 9:45 pm
JD (318f81) — 3/27/2011 @ 5:58 pmI apologize to Scott Jacobs for conflating his nasty behavior toward me with the nasty behavior of others (nk, to be exact, from Frey’s site) who decided to take little shots at my family.
My final comment: when Dana says something, and DRJ seconds it, that is usually a pretty good indication that their point is a good one.
Is that clear enough? I do not want to deal with this by repeatedly removing comments. I want to deal with it ensuring that people stop leaving comments that I want to delete.
Patterico (c218bd) — 3/27/2011 @ 6:01 pmWell, he got half of it. The apology for the libel has occurred.
Aaaaaaand then he threatens me again.
But he’s totally not serious, guys! So it’s OK!!
And don’t forget, comments of MINE that were far more obviously non-serious (including “you’re dead to me” – didn’t know that was even a threat…) are totally serious and show a history of violence on my part.
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 3/27/2011 @ 6:04 pmInclude the whole f**king thing, b*tch.
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 3/27/2011 @ 6:08 pmI don’t think JD should have to pass a loyalty test to comment here, nor do I think he should be criticized if he disagrees with the way others view JeffG. But if I’m wrong about that, please say so now so we can all decide where our loyalties lie.
DRJ (fdd243) — 3/27/2011 @ 6:12 pmTruth matters, right, not if the Koch brothers are
the subject of the Sorosphere’s full attack, and this explains the insane attacks on Walker;
http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/paranoid-style-liberal-politics_555525.html?page=1
We are losing the very meaning of what things are, In retrospect, McCain shouldn’t have said certain words, but compared to Kos, Yglesias, Marshall, whose mendacity knows no bounds. I put Jon Stewart, in the same category.
narciso (b545d5) — 3/27/2011 @ 6:14 pmIt sounds to me as if Miss Manners or Dear Abby need some consultations about how to receive apologies, return apologies for interim bad behavior, general amnesty and the like, from several people, but nobody tells me anything.
daleyrocks (9b57b3) — 3/27/2011 @ 6:18 pmWell, don’t think that I’m retaining any respect for either of you.
SPQR (26be8b) — 3/27/2011 @ 6:20 pmThis is looking disturbingly like early April of last year.
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 3/27/2011 @ 6:22 pmJD does not have to pass a loyalty test to comment here.
DRJ is not wrong about that.
If he has a different view of Jeff G. than most of the rest of us here, more power to him. I am not telling him what to say or think. He is his own man.
I do think I am entitled to ask that people not discuss Jeff G. here. I have better things to do with my time.
That request has not been honored so far. Scott Jacobs has now given the full context of the partial quote that JD insisted on posting. Can that now be the end of it?
Patterico (c218bd) — 3/27/2011 @ 6:22 pmI move to the previous question.
JVW (615582) — 3/27/2011 @ 6:24 pmWhatcha mean, JVW?
I’m happy for any change of subject here.
Patterico (c218bd) — 3/27/2011 @ 6:27 pmI agree. Let’s talk about Lee Stranahan.
DRJ (fdd243) — 3/27/2011 @ 6:28 pmJust throwing out some Robert’s Rules of Order to try get back to debating the follies of the Obama Administration.
So. . . how ’bout the artwork of Gaddafi’s son Saif? I think it would look pretty sweet painted on the side of my van, if I had one.
JVW (615582) — 3/27/2011 @ 6:32 pmAh yes. Lee Stranahan.
Trying to figure out what his posting schedule will be; what his first post will be about; when it will post; etc.
Hoping he can start tomorrow and maybe post at least twice a week — much more if he is willing and able. Will e-mail him again tonight to check.
This, combined with my finishing a recent trial, and a renewed interest in Project Gunrunner/Fast and Furious has me interested in blogging again. Hopefully, at least for a while, Dustin’s very funny crack upthread will seem less apropos in coming weeks.
Patterico (c218bd) — 3/27/2011 @ 6:33 pmHere’s another example, it would seem self evident to us, but that it happened in that corner:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-stranahan/anchorage-tv-station-pali_b_123029.html
narciso (b545d5) — 3/27/2011 @ 6:34 pmAs a home-school parent in a previous life, I certainly appreciated Lee Stranahan’s post on reading and unschooling, entitled I Can Read That Sign, No Thanks To a Teacher.
Dana (9f3823) — 3/27/2011 @ 6:34 pmThese will all be excellent links for the introductory post I want to write. Thanks, all.
Patterico (c218bd) — 3/27/2011 @ 6:36 pmDana, that was a very interesting link. Thank you for posting it. The problem with all education (I think) is the “one size fits all” philosophy. LS cares more about his children and pays more attention to them as individuals than any teacher. If only all parents felt that way….
Simon Jester (9f3d33) — 3/27/2011 @ 6:41 pmAs Iowahawk, pointed out, in one of his dense fact based posts, the results have been less than optimum in Wisconsin,
narciso (b545d5) — 3/27/2011 @ 6:47 pmSimon, the beauty of home-schooling is of course that you can actually live out in real time the idea that one size does not fit all. In a traditional classroom setting, every minute is accounted for and the clock of success if always ticking. The beauty of home schooling is certainly in great part, the gift of unhurried time – time that waits for curiosity and interest and spark to light up a child with an observant parent catching and taking hold of that opportunity.
Dana (9f3823) — 3/27/2011 @ 6:48 pmI envy those parents. I still do what I can.
Simon Jester (9f3d33) — 3/27/2011 @ 6:56 pmI’m still of the opinion that the only thing that can save our civilization is the genocide of all holders of a Education doctorate.
SPQR (26be8b) — 3/27/2011 @ 6:59 pmI enjoyed that link from Dana, too.
I have just one question: Does Van use E-trade too, or something else? The E-trade kid has been the source of many laughs, but Van looks like he’s got Warren Buffet potential.
MD in Philly (f0e1bd) — 3/27/2011 @ 7:09 pmAbout synagogues, tolerance of arabs. I see now in the comments after I went to sleep that the real reason for the sniping is that many of you think this churches and christians thing is somehow my personal approval of the arab life.
No… its…. not….
JD
Before you play the victim again here, again I might add, I only bring up JeffG when you act like him towards me, if you disagree with me fine, 99% of the time, all I’m trying to do is have a beer and pretzels discussion of things that happen or the topic of the thread
Its you who have stated that you dont want “others” polluting this blog – as if you are the arbitrator of all things?
(Of course any proof of your counter arguments would BE NICE and just remember its a discussion)
You notice when you comment about the topic I say nothing, however when you comment about me (I dont know which is more frequent) usually I let it go, but not lately and I should, but you seem to be on some mission like Jeff towards Pat – to “ruin” me.
So, its you who distort things I’ve said, and you do it constantly all these the personal attacks, then play the victim when I mention that you financially support someone who is trying to serious hurt Pat here.
So cry yourself the victim all you want – surprizing for the self confessed – “I have sharp edges” guy. I’m going to stop however, and I won’t mention anything negative towards you.
EricPWJohnson (c7e31d) — 3/27/2011 @ 7:35 pmThis is me catering to our host’s wishes.
JD (318f81) — 3/27/2011 @ 7:42 pmHowever guys I am fascinated at the changes going on here though. 25 years ago when I was at Amoco, dealing with these countries, the arrogance and hostility was at the least, tiny disguised, and when I was told me and the kids were having to actually go live here (first for 18 month now blessedly ending after 6 long freakin years) there are significant changes – sea changes –
Some you guys see right there on the news, some you see on the street.
When I landed at 2:10 am in the morning my first seconds in Doha I was previously instructed to call my dad and tell him we arrived safe – with Alice Coopers Poison just reverberating off the walls of the airport screaming out of the loud speakers – I realized this wasnt your CNN version of Arabia
EricPWJohnson (c33492) — 3/27/2011 @ 7:54 pmJD
Thanks, this is me reciprocating 🙂
EricPWJohnson (c33492) — 3/27/2011 @ 7:56 pmTwenty five years, the bottom fell out of the oil m market, hence the S&L collapse in real estate dependent Texas, of course they were more subdued
narciso (b545d5) — 3/27/2011 @ 8:04 pmthen.
Some things don’t change. The only point EricPW gets in the one on top of his head.
daleyrocks (9b57b3) — 3/27/2011 @ 8:35 pmI’m not, but thanks for the compliment, however unintended.
Milhouse (a3a937) — 3/27/2011 @ 8:49 pmWhat this thread needs is a change in perspective . . .
Is Lee Strahan the same kind of “democrat” Tammy Bruce is? As in, calls himself one, but has the political beliefs no one on the Left actually has?
Comment by timb — 3/27/2011 @ 1:04 pm
— There ya go! A fresh batch of timmah bs to clense the debating palate. Mmmmm, smell the fresh!
Icy Texan (5a9fe7) — 3/27/2011 @ 8:51 pm“cleanse” Ugh!
Icy Texan (5a9fe7) — 3/27/2011 @ 8:53 pmLet’s hope biden doesn’t stuff the guest contributor in the closet. 😉
DohBiden (984d23) — 3/27/2011 @ 9:36 pm