Democrats: Paul Ryan is the Enemy and We Are Going to Work on Our Messaging
[Guest post by Aaron Worthing; if you have tips, please send them here.]
Wow, talk about clueless here. Paul Ryan has been a rising star because he has regularly torn apart the bullshit involved in Obama’s proposals. So the Democratic hate machine is getting all fired up:
Senate Democrats are pouncing on Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-Wis.) role in delivering the Republican response to the State of the Union address to make the case that Republicans are intent on destroying Social Security and Medicare.
Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), the master political strategist for Senate Democrats, wants to turn Ryan into a bogeyman that voters think about whenever they hear about a Republican proposal to cut federal spending.
Schumer’s strategy reflects an effort to revitalize a party messaging operation that many Democrats say fell apart after Obama won the White House. Senate Democrats face a daunting political map in 2012 and are looking to launch early, coordinated attacks on Speaker John Boehner’s (R-Ohio) new majority.
Schumer’s strategy is to highlight the link between GOP efforts to cut as much as $50 billion from the federal budget and a “roadmap” to create private accounts for Social Security and Medicare that Ryan created.
One way or the other, these entitlements are going to end. The question is whether the U.S. will destroy its credit in the process. And demonizing every person who points out these ugly truths is not governing.
And no amount of messaging is going to fix that.
[Posted and authored by Aaron Worthing.]
Back to Chomski, eh? Or, more likely I guess, they never left.
Dennis (d65642) — 1/25/2011 @ 6:50 amWouldn’t that as Rush says,’ Wakoff, rhymes with’
narciso (6075d0) — 1/25/2011 @ 6:57 amEvil Schmucky is going to be a problem if we let him… maybe the GOP ought to right fire with fire and call him on his unpopular, far-Left schemes
A real piece of work, this one- how bout he takes on Ryan mano-a-mano and let Americans decide who’s telling them the truth?
Ryan would rip him apart
Reaganite Republican (c90bca) — 1/25/2011 @ 7:02 amI believe that the Democrats are seriously misreading the public’s attitude with this strategy. Most informed voters are now convinced that our current fiscal situation is not sustainable and that reform is necessary if we are to avoid a total economic meltdown. Something has to be done to rein in entitlement spending if that meltdown is to be avoided, and to follow a battle plan that attempts to keep such reforms off the table, the Democrats will (hopefully) be seen as defending the status quo, a status quo that is not defensible! It may have worked 10 years ago, but it is a doomed strategy today!
RAZ (4e0dda) — 1/25/2011 @ 7:03 amWhat?! Dems are going to demagogue Social Security and Medicare?! No. Way.
JD (936b23) — 1/25/2011 @ 7:06 amSen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), the master political strategist for Senate Democrats
The only thing Schumer’s the master of is running his mouth at the most inopportune times – watch him run his party into the ditch on this one. Obama was smart enough not to even try to debate Ryan on economic issues, but Schumer thinks he’s always the smartest one in the room. School’s in session now, Chuckie.
Dmac (498ece) — 1/25/2011 @ 7:50 amBTW, my wife has worked at American for over two decades, and even though most of her co – workers are loyal Dems (as is she), they hate Chuckie for his ridiculous outburst at one of their own, for having the temerity to tell his honor to please shut his freaking phone off (after two previous requests were ignored) so that their plane could taxi to the end of the runway and get going. Schumer’s reponse? “Great, you just cancelled the health reform bill. Bitch.”
Dmac (498ece) — 1/25/2011 @ 7:54 amI think you missed the real story here.
Don’t you think this kind of language is tasteless, when schizophrenics might interpret it as a call for violence?
carlitos (a3d259) — 1/25/2011 @ 8:05 amDemocrats have lost the battle of ideas, they’ve lost the trust of the voters, and all they have left is thugs, propaganda, and character assassination.
ropelight (20aa73) — 1/25/2011 @ 8:28 amAnother example of liberal hypocracy on the politics of personal destruction. I first heard the term in the clinton administration. The difference is ryan is telling the truth and clintons “i did not have sex with that woman” was like so many of his claims a lie.
dunce (b89258) — 1/25/2011 @ 8:53 amBy all means call attention to Paul Ryan, and compare and contrast him with Chuck Schumer. Ryan has several “crazy” ideas which are simple, past due and will happen soon whether Chuck Schumer likes it or not; raising the retirement age and means testing of SSI. And if Schumer feels(operative verb for liberals ) otherwise he needs to explain where the money is coming from to pay for the continuing boondoggle.
Bugg (9e308e) — 1/25/2011 @ 9:27 amDemocrats have lost the battle of ideas, they’ve lost the trust of the voters, and all they have left is thugs, propaganda, and character assassination.
Yes but Obama will be reelected. And while the GOP may make enough gains to recapture the Senate, it will fall well short of what it potentially could be, as it did in 2010. The reason is that this attack strategy (and the usual inept Republican response or non-response) will bear fruit.
Gerald A (138c50) — 1/25/2011 @ 10:38 amcarlitos
lol goes to show you how commonplace it is. but i heard right after john king apologized for it.
Aaron Worthing (e7d72e) — 1/25/2011 @ 10:40 amSo, the Dems are basically saying that they need to aggressively remind citizens of the US that they, the Democrats, are the party of government giveaways, reckless spending, out of control old entitlements, absurd new entitlements (Obamacare), budgets that make no sense, budgets that some times don’t even exist, and financial planning that drives the nation off a cliff.
Good message, Chuck. Go get ’em.
Frederick (4f7681) — 1/25/2011 @ 10:54 amLet see if Obama gets re-elected Gerald A. First the economy must show significant improvement by the fall of 2012–say by September. That means
martin j smith (4a4718) — 1/25/2011 @ 10:55 amunemployment levels must go down by a lot. Then the price of fuel and food and inflation in general. Going back to the cost of fuel-lets look at the cost at the pump and general energy policy . See how voters feel in fuel prices rise at the pump to $5.00per gallon. Then there is Obama Care and what happens with that . Most voters oppose it and back repeal. We have long way to go before election day but these and other issues will be BIG factors determining who wins.Unless the people ( voters ) believe they are being heard( recall those voters who in 11/20010 sent many Dems packing both in Congress in Washington and in Local State elections) Obama is the MAN and he will be held to account. Of course the Repubs need to have a good candidate. Never the less if things are no better by election day 2012 Obama will lose.
the only party to ever cut social security benefits are is the democratic party. when are seniors going to wake up.
tommy mc donnell (397858) — 1/25/2011 @ 11:06 amThe demonization tactic of Democrats, especially their far left fringe, has worked pretty well in Sarah Palin’s case. Ryan may be able to keep his cool and keep showing charts of the unsustainability of SS and Medicare. Schumer is not a good spokesman so that will weaken his message but they will get the nuts out attacking him with lies and that may affect some of their supporters whose intellectual attainment stops at soap opera plots. It will be interesting to watch.
Mike K (8f3f19) — 1/25/2011 @ 11:07 am#12, Gerald A, yes, I hear you. The GOP is incapable of fighting back effectively. The margin of victory for Democrats in 2012 will be the “stupid white vote.”
If deaf, dumb, and gullible Pollyanna whites vote Affirmative Action again, then Obama will get another 4 years to sabotage the American experiment.
ropelight (20aa73) — 1/25/2011 @ 11:23 amI seriously doubt the Donk demonization of Paul Ryan will work because Ryan looks and talks like a combination of:
1. A former Eagle Scout.
2. That nice young resident who made your grandma comfortable at the hospital after she broke her hip.
and
3. The guy your daughter SHOULD have married.
Memo for Donks: Trying to demonize Paul Ryan? Good luck with allllllllll that. (*Seinfeld eye roll*)
MarkJ (42fe5b) — 1/25/2011 @ 12:11 pmI thought Boehner was the boogeyman. The Dems have no ideas, no way to win in the arena of ideas so all they can do is personally attack and smear the GOP.
Fiddler (b711bb) — 1/25/2011 @ 1:46 pmSchumer is not a good spokesman so that will weaken his message but they will get the nuts out attacking him with lies and that may affect some of their supporters whose intellectual attainment stops at soap opera plots.
Of course you already know this, but the beauty of being a Democrat like Chuck Schumer is that you do not have to involve yourself in the demonization process. All you have to do to float the initial idea, and thereafter all your media minions from newspaper opinion pages to MSNBC hosts will run with it. The NYT editorial page is no doubt already typesetting the headline to their forthcoming editorial: “Mr. Ryan’s Mistaken Roadmap.”
JVW (4463d3) — 1/25/2011 @ 2:15 pmMarkJ is right. I don’t really care about the image issue so much, because Paul’s ideas are actually quite serious and constructive, but the truth is that he’s someone people can trust, and his image is going to be difficult to overcome.
There’s an interesting problem in that our federal financial crisis is beyond the scope of any problem any Governor has ever dealt with. None of them seem credibly able to deal with it, and only a handful of people in DC, legislators, have much experience trying.
And yet the President must have executive experience. IMO. I like Paul Ryan where he is right now, but it’s a shame our 2012 nominee will be less equipped than Ryan for job 1.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 1/25/2011 @ 2:34 pmIf Schumer’s strategy “works”, maybe Ryan will become a household name- and the Republican nominee- and the next president-
And yet the President must have executive experience. IMO. I like Paul Ryan where he is right now,
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 1/25/2011 @ 5:55 pmWell Dustin, the rest of the nation didn’t insist on someone with executive experience, and you’d like Ryan better in the WH than the current occupant. Besides, the main thing an executive needs is the ability to give leadership, right? If someone can lead the American people to see through the smoke and mirrors they can lead the American people anywhere. That said, yes, Ryan can probably do a lot of good no matter where he is. (I would almost stop my opposition to human cloning if we could get a few more- [not really]).
Isn’t “pouncing” a form of cat violence? I denounce the Democrats who do it!!!
Vivian Louise (88da02) — 1/26/2011 @ 4:37 amI blame the ponzi scheme’s impending destruction on the democrat’s blood lusting death cult of abortion.
SiliconDoc (7ba52b) — 1/26/2011 @ 6:14 amWe hear 50 million is the new total of legally murdered babies since 1973 RvW became the demos main plank.
So, we’d have the Americans who will do the jobs the dead and murdered Americans won’t do and won’t pay into the system doing, if the democrat party didn’t go on it’s demographics obliterating socialist death knell reconstruction.
2011-1973= more than a million per year/ ~38 year olds down to less than 1 year old. So let’s take 18-30 year olds for strong backs to do the work Americans won’t do, a million per year would be in that age range now.
That’s 12 MILLION.
They tell us we have 12 million illegal alien workers.
I’d LOVE to see a republican take that up on a national platform and hammer it home, again, and again, and again….
I don’t understand how it isn’t “the truth” a lot more than anything else I hear from the national talking pieholes.
Democrats should start early telling the truth about congressman Paul Ryan. He once spat on the sidewalk in Milwaukee, also when he was 15 he glanced at a picture in Playboy at an endowed
Jorge Parra (46016e) — 1/26/2011 @ 10:53 amnaked lady. Oh,he mentioned the name “Hitler”
when asked who wrote “Mein Kampf”? I’am sure they
would be able to find “Flaws” with Jesus himself,what a bunch of loosers.