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1/22/2011

Glenn Beck Explains “You’re Going to Have to Shoot Them in the Head” — And the Explanation Sounds Familiar

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 2:53 pm



Via our dishonest friends at Media Matters comes Glenn Beck’s explanation for his statement “you’re going to have to shoot them in the head”:

If you listen to this, I think you’ll agree that I hit the nail on the head. Let’s compare Beck’s own explanation of his comments to what I told you the day the video came out. First, Beck’s explanation:

If you look at the full video, or if you read the tranbscript, which is now available at the blaze.com, you will see that the word “you” refers to the leftist politicians in Washington and the people in the media on the left, and the “them,” the “they,” refers to [their] radical leftist friends. In this clip, I am warning that they, the revolutionaries, that have been co-opted by the politicians and the media, they actually believe and have called for a violent revolution. They believe it. And I was warning last summer, if you don’t, if they feel betrayed, if they feel like you’ve been lying to them, you’ve been using them, they’ll kill you. They’ll kill you. Because they believe in something.

Now, my description from the other day:

The full transcript is here. When you read it, you will see that the word “you” refers to the leftist politicians in Washington and their pals in the media, and “they” refers to their radical leftist friends — who, Beck warns, actually believe there must be violent revolution . . . and if they don’t get what they want, they may start one.

Beck is warning the comfortable pols that the people who put them in power aren’t going to be satisfied with seeing just a little of their agenda accomplished. They want it all. Because they are revolutionaries at heart — people who have called for violence and never repudiated it. And if they aren’t satisfied, Beck tells the pols, they will come after you. Violently.

You’re going to have to shoot them in the head. But they may shoot you.

The phrasing of my explanation of Beck’s statement and Beck’s own explanation are remarkably similar, I’d say. (It’s almost as if he was reading from a post that had relied heavily on mine.)

Anyway, case closed. If you say Beck was telling his audience to shoot people in the head, you are stupid or a liar.

Or both. It could be both.

41 Responses to “Glenn Beck Explains “You’re Going to Have to Shoot Them in the Head” — And the Explanation Sounds Familiar”

  1. Stupid AND a liar describes an awful lot of that part of the Left that spends any energy at all on what Beck, Limbaugh, etc say.

    C. S. P. Schofield (e4bd33)

  2. Señor Macker is stupid AND a liar. Just like Yelverton and all his aliases. And iamadimwit and all of it’s aliases.

    JD (d4bbf1)

  3. The Blaze is Glenn Beck’s website.

    DRJ (fdd243)

  4. No, I know. But he didn’t write the post about this.

    Patterico (c218bd)

  5. this would be fun to see autotuned

    happyfeet (aa4bab)

  6. Nevertheless, I’d say you wrote Glenn Beck’s response.

    DRJ (fdd243)

  7. That’s something I never thought I’d write.

    DRJ (fdd243)

  8. Beck is serious about “The Blaze”,
    “Yesterday it was reported ed that The Blaze had hired former HuffPo CEO Betsy Morgan to run the site, today The Wire has learned they have also scooped up HuffPo’s HR manager Jackie Greaney.”

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/glenn-becks-site-the-blaze-hires-huffpos-head-of-hr-2011-1#ixzz1Bp3pZ2QJ

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  9. Well it’s only fair, Breitbart helped set up the Huff Po, something he does penance for, on a fairly common bases.

    narciso (6075d0)

  10. Your similarity to Beck is remarkable.

    Larry Reilly (ae99e7)

  11. Larry Reilly, the vacuous of your comments is no longer remarkable, its expected.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  12. Mawy is on a bender again. Expect IMP and crissy any time now.

    JD (d4bbf1)

  13. Larry:

    Mom said it’s time for a sandwich. Don’t disappoint Mom.

    Ag80 (e03e7a)

  14. narciso @13 – Palin strikes again!

    daleyrocks (e7bc4f)

  15. Case closed only in your closed mind. Glenn Beck is Howard Beale. He’s an insane man who speaks to the insane, and eggs them on. The nutcase right wing cheers him, because they want the U.S. to collapse.

    Jake Jackson (66858c)

  16. Patterico-

    Your abilities shine in many areas, but I’m afraid in this case all that has been demonstrated is that you know how to read English. While this does not separate you from your readers, I guess it does separate us from those who can’t read and misrepresented Beck’s comments.

    Last night I heard a local talk show host (on the station that just replaced Beck) and callers going ballistic over some negative comments Beck made earlier in the week about Philadelphia. Much ado about nothing, but it was interesting to hear other things Beck said that day. Not that he would ever claim to be a religious leader, but as he pointed out, leading up to and after the rally he sponsored in DC, he really has talked about individual responsibility about being a person of character and faith.

    He may be a little dramatic and syrupy at times, but no one else that I know of has done anywhere near the work he has on digging up things about Communists like Van Jones, Alinsky, ___?__ -Piven. He certainly seems far-fetched, but as he said, people like Ayers and company mean what they say.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  17. Beck was prescient not only about that thug, I’m not giving any more press, but the subject of that link, I put up earlier. He uses the resources of a Seton Motley, on Net Neutrality, Scott Baker, on the educational tripe like the ‘odes to Obama,’ Breitbart, and a host of others, the likes of Fox Piven, don’t like their schemes to be revealed in public, so they shreek, like ‘scalded cats’

    narciso (6075d0)

  18. Cloward is the name you were missing. Piven and Cloward truly are condemnable. People who love and encourage violence, want revolution and destruction, and actively plan for the destruction of our economy in order to reach their ‘progressive’ vision of social justice.

    I just read the NYT describe Piven’s views as ‘helping the poor’, in the most ridiculous euphemism I’ve read in years.

    It’s amazing how extreme the left can be, and people shrug, or tell the right not to react or even mention it. In fact, that NYT article I mentioned is angry that Beck had the gall to even talk about Piven too often.

    Anyway, I think MD’s right that Patterico’s analysis required very little. Beck’s message is not confusing, and anyone pretending they sincerely watched this, and think Beck was encouraging violence rather than opposing extremism, is a liar. This ‘civility’ discussion we’ve been having lately is flying over anyone’s head. It’s a matter of honesty rather than incredible intelligence.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  19. I believe Cloward passed away in 2001, but his method of applying Alinskyite principles, what
    Obama was teaching his students of U of C, power
    relatioships, instead of law, continues to this day

    narciso (6075d0)

  20. Sadly, Piven still promotes violent riots to this day, and these people really do live Rules for Radicals to the fullest degree.

    It’s amazing that Obama taught and embraced Rules for Radicals, and yet the democrats who shrug at that see extremism in merely telling the truth about it.

    It’s almost as though they are full of crap.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  21. Beck’s message was the same one Jimmy Hoffa learned the hard way, the same one the restaurant owner learned in “Goodfellas.”

    You get in bed with the bad guys, the mob or violent revolutionaries, and before you know it they’re calling the shots. You might have thought you could use them for your own purposes, but you quickly find out they have an agenda too, and they’ll kill you if you don’t keep your mouth shut and get with the program.

    ropelight (6805f7)

  22. Great analogy Ropelight! That’s exactly how Beck was describing the Dems relationship with the far left. I have to agree with MD in Philly too, Patterico. One does not have to be a genius, elevated reading skills or have particularly good hearing to understand what Beck was saying. It only takes cognative disfunction to mis-represent his words for your own purposes as many on the left are quite ready to do.

    Nick Shaw (71b010)

  23. Maybe you could explain how health care deform passing has any relationship to what the topic is.

    JD (d4bbf1)

  24. MD in Philly,

    Yes, Beck was clear, and they are liars.

    The fact of his clarity only makes it that much clearer what liars they are.

    If I did anything, it was a) having the common sense to know that Beck couldn’t have been saying what they claimed, and b) finding the context (which took about ten seconds, by the way).

    None of this is hard. But partisan hatred makes people think funny.

    Patterico (c218bd)

  25. It’s simpler, Patterico. To borrow from Orwell:

    “Two legs baaaaad. Four legs goooood.”

    The funny part is how partisans want nuance applied to their own favored people, but are real sticklers for accuracy on “the other side.”

    Simon Jester (bdc73f)

  26. health care deform – Comment by JD

    I like that phrase and will steal it from you, but if I ever make money with it, I’ll give you 95%. 😉

    The United States has had a “relatively quiet” existence since the civil war compared to much of the world. IMO, it is virtually unthinkable for most people to believe the US could fall into a state of widespresd civil unrest and violence, but I imagine almost every society has had similar beliefs until cataclysmic change was upon them.

    “The War at Home” is available on Netflix for those who have it. The documentary one, not the movie or the TV series, is what you want. It really opened my eyes to the reality of true anarchists in the US. To know that people of this mindset have grown in influence and numbers over the last 40 years is frightening; that you can have people like Piven not only advocate for violence through “sabatouge” of domestic policy but make academic careers out of it is insane. It must be like listening to Hitler in the 30’s and everybody shrugging their shoulders and saying, “That’s so out there he can’t possible mean it”, sort of like the FBI informant stating Ayers told his co-revolutionists that “20 million” or more would likely die in the revolution of the US. Yet they ignore the direct statements of the left and make up stuff about the right. It sounds crazy, but I know of no a priori reason that the US should be spared the fate of other nations.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  27. Beck understands, I think, what so many on the right do not. This is a fight to the death with the radical left. The Alinsky strategy is working while too many of you (us) talk to each other about how ridiculous this stuff is. Remember that the Tucson flame war has significantly raised Sarah Palin’s negatives in spite of the fact that she, and harsh rhetoric, had nothing to do with this. Another assassination attempt on a major political figure is unknown to the US public.

    We are very close to losing this battle unless the GOP House really doubles down on their promised reforms. The country cannot afford for us to lose this battle. The Alinsky strategy is working.

    Mike K (8f3f19)

  28. We had a similar discussion at lunch, after attending Life Sunday services. My daughter (who volunteers at a crisis pregnancy clinic) visited a concentration camp in Trieste (Austria) last winter. The very next week she and her friends went to a shopping mall in Vienna, where they noticed an abortion clinic. She said that her friends were “ho hum, let’s go get coffee.” But the contrast made her want to throw up.

    At the concentration camp there were homes on a hillside nearby, from which the camp could be seen. They asked, didn’t the people who lived there see what was going on? Apparently it is just as possible for us to not see what is happening right in our midst.

    Gesundheit (aab7c6)

  29. Mike K., thank you for bringing that to our attention. It seems impossible that a story like that would be nonexistent on the national media, and without coordinated purposeful censorship (journolist, anyone).

    That really is terrifying, that they can bury a story like this with much clearer and rational political overtones and turn Tucson into a field day of false allegation about the right. Without the internet and talk radio we would have lost already.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  30. ___________________________________________

    Another assassination attempt on a major political figure is unknown to the US public. — Mike K

    How unusual that the assassin was of the…left! Moreover, that his target was a…Democrat!

    The ironies just keep on coming in, but even today — post-Lee Harvey Oswald, post-Loughner — they still never cease to amaze (and disgust) me.

    americanthinker.com:

    In September 2010 Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon [a registered Democrat] was scheduled to speak at Penn Valley Community College in Kansas City.

    At some point, wearing black clothes and a bullet-proof vest, 22 year-old Casey Brezik bolted out of a classroom, knife in hand, and slashed the throat of a dean. As he would later admit, he confused the dean with Nixon.

    The story never left Kansas City. It is not hard to understand why. Knives lack the political sex appeal of guns, and even Keith Olbermann would have had a hard time turning Brezik into a Tea Partier.

    Indeed, Brezik seems to have inhaled just about every noxious vapor in the left-wing miasma: environmental extremism, radical Islam, anti-capitalism, anti-Zionism and Christophobia, among others. In his “About Me” box on Facebook, Brezik listed as his favorite quotation one from progressive poster boy, Che Guevara. The quote begins “Our every action is a battle cry against imperialism” and gets more belligerent from there.

    On his wall postings, Brezik ranted, “How are we the radical(s) (left) to confront the NEW RIGHT, if we avoid confrontation all together?”

    ^ Thanks, Mike K, for alerting us of another person who can be added to the list of ruthless fanatics aligned with the left.

    Mark (411533)

  31. Bawze is good at missing the point, entirely.

    JD (d4bbf1)

  32. Bawze, the point of Beck’s warning is that left wing radicals will try to kill democrats who they think are betraying or falling short of communism.

    Did you miss that point? The link does make a mistake… Jay Nixon is a democrat who a left wing radical tried to murder.

    If Jay Nixon, or Giffords, or even Pelosi and Obama, got everything on their state agenda, left wing radicals will not be satisfied. They think the democrat agenda is either a trick to lull us into socialism, or something worse. Legitimizing left wing radicals like Van Jones, Bill Ayers, or Rev Wright, is not acceptable. And those who compare this to Beck or Palin’s rhetoric are trash.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  33. Bawze, the governor’s web site does not list his party and I have been told he ran as an independent in 2008, an odd time to do it. My original version was based on what I had read. You seem very impressed that he was a Democrat. Does that change the story ?

    Here is very good essay on the vitriol which is flooding the country from the left.

    Mike K (8f3f19)

  34. I actually think their Alinskys tactics are failing, and failing badly. The more they and their allies in the MFM attempt to demonize anyone who dares speak of their heroes in anything less than adulatory tones, the more irrelevant they become. The gatekeepers of yesterday are now mostly held in contempt by the US citizenry, and they well realize the oncoming train of disaster that befalls any business that stops providing useful services to their customers. The recent election proved the MFM’s increasing irrelevance, and they and the Dems know it.

    Dmac (498ece)

  35. That’s also why they don’t point out how the far left is getting its way

    Bawze, I think the interesting thing about the far left is that they are positioned such that they can never get their way.

    Nothing would ever be enough. They would always want more, always have some injustice or inequality or reform, or government regulation to work on. There is no state of affairs where they say “OK, we’re good right here. We are getting our way now.”

    They just get madder and madder, no matter what direction we’re headed in.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  36. It’s like they actually follow what that far leftist said, “injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.”

    Comment by TheBawze

    No, it’s not just like that, IMO. It’s like they will permanently pretend everything is in a state of crisis, warranting revolution and violence. Piven is a great example, wanting to make America horrible, in pursuit of this vague ‘help the poor’, as if collapsing America would improve their lives, rather than level our existence to uniform misery. They are crazy, and will happily create injustice in the name of their goals.

    I’m not talking about mainstream democrats, btw. This should be obvious.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  37. “injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.”

    Perhaps I should rephrase this.

    “if we perceive any injustice, we are willing to threaten justice everywhere over it.”

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  38. __________________________________________

    The knife-wielding student in Missouri would automatically have gotten less close, tough scrutiny from the media, regardless of the victim’s political background. That’s because victims in crime stories generally elicit less sympathy from the left (including all those in the MSM) than what suspects/perpetrators receive. Making matters even easier for the would-be assassin was that he is both non-white and leftwing.

    However, if he were a rightist, with his intended target being exactly identical to the one in the actual story (ie, a Democrat politician), the media possibly would have been more interested in exploiting the case. IOW, the type of mindset that triggers grotesque spectacles like the Paul Wellstone funeral.

    Mark (411533)

  39. I do see how if you rewrite what a leftist said it comes out different.

    Comment by TheBawze

    This has to be the most pathetic attempt to defend violent leftists I’ve ever seen. just pretend the problem away with sarcasm? That’s not an argument. Beck’s still right, imdw.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  40. The far left’s way is to be in control. “They” will be happy when the only fighting that’s left is the in-fighting for who get’s Comrade Stalin’s or Chairman Mao’s role.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)


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