“Climate of Hate” by Markos Krugman
[Guest post by Aaron Worthing; if you have tips, please send them here.]
This is a new blog designed to point out where the hate is really coming from these days. For instance, it has this passage from a New Jersey Education Association Memo:
“Dear Lord, this year you have taken away my favorite actor, Patrick Swayze, my favorite actress, Farrah Fawcett, my favorite singer, Michael Jackson, and my favorite salesman, Billy Mays… I just wanted to let you know that Chris Christie is my favorite governor.”
When this whole left-wing hatefest first started to erupt, Ann Althouse wrote the following:
Ah, now you see why the accusations backfire (if I may dare to use that word): the occasion has been created for conservatives to list every violent-sounding thing any liberals or lefties have ever said about anything.
This new blog should be considered the backfire.
[Posted and authored by Aaron Worthing.]
Thanks very much for the link, Aaron. Not being skilled in teh internetz, have been waiting for something like this to show up. Site already bookmarked and, if it pans out as hoped, I plan on passing it around *cough* liberally when coworkers et al bring up “those horrible conservatives”.
As an aside, have noticed my own family’s comments about Obama, and Palin too, completely taper off to ZERO (I don’t bring up politics unless they do, in the interests of peace, but if they bring it up they know they’ll get a respectful but fact filled reply from me) the longer Obama has been in office. Hmm, I wonder why that is?
Maybe even the most devoted Obama fans and Palin haters can’t avoid seeing the truth about both of them anymore. And it isn’t pretty for the far left.
no one you know (a8b794) — 1/15/2011 @ 12:44 pmThe Left is so civil, and you are so hate filled and violent.
JD (d4bbf1) — 1/15/2011 @ 12:53 pmAt least the WBC will not picket the funerals.
Michael Ejercito (64388b) — 1/15/2011 @ 12:54 pmnoyk
i will point out for the record i started two blogs with very little knowledge of computers. blogspot really makes it easy. most of the time i just wrote the post in word, and then cut and paste. and for that matter wordpress isn’t much harder, but apparently only “super” administrators can post video, which is why i didn’t for so long.
Trust me, none of this is technically very hard.
Aaron Worthing (73a7ea) — 1/15/2011 @ 1:07 pm“Markos Krugman”? What would that hybrid look like?
Where’s the “Weekly World News” when you need it?
Simon Jester (6ca166) — 1/15/2011 @ 1:12 pmTrust me, none of this is technically very hard.
Comment by Aaron Worthing — 1/15/2011 @ 1:07 pm
Really… Maybe one of these days if I ever manage to finish school I’ll start one of these compiler ones such as the one you link, and your newer one. I like both of yours and — not that you brought this up but — am enjoying seeing you getting your due here in a wider forum. Keep up the good work.
no one you know (a8b794) — 1/15/2011 @ 1:15 pmSimon – Try this
http://www.morphthing.com/upload
JD (d4bbf1) — 1/15/2011 @ 1:26 pm“Markos Krugman”? What would that hybrid look like?
The ugliest man/woman/other you’ve ever seen in your life – it would make Gollum (aka Helen Thomas) almost palatable by comparison.
BTW, the best part of that story is the postscript – where Christie aceded to the request for a meeting with the president of the NJ teacher’s union. The meeting lasted less than five minutes, after the teacher’s union head declined to fire that union hack after those comments were posted. Christie got up, said “thank you, but this meeting’s over,” and left the union head with her jaw hanging open. An entirely appropriate response whose reverberations are still being felt today.
Dmac (498ece) — 1/15/2011 @ 1:31 pmActually, not enough time left in the Universe to list all the hateful things liberals have said.
cedarhill (ac4076) — 1/15/2011 @ 2:02 pmYou ignorant hateful bastards ought to take a look in the f*** mirror at the hate you have spread and the violence you have encouraged with your ignorant divisive talk. Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and more…
You are nothing but a bunch of racist self pitying ignoramuses. You point to an occasional over the top instances in which people, reacting to your ignorance and hate, strike back..
Vietnameravet (35c6c1) — 1/15/2011 @ 2:17 pmVEV – Hilarious!
daleyrocks (e7bc4f) — 1/15/2011 @ 2:25 pmdaleyrocks — obviously you cant deny this.. so ridicidule is your response
Vietnameravet (35c6c1) — 1/15/2011 @ 2:27 pmVEV – Don’t get violent on me. Don’t tase me, bro.
daleyrocks (e7bc4f) — 1/15/2011 @ 2:29 pmVEV:
That really may be the single, most hilarious comment ever posted here, however unintentional.
Thanks for the laff and please keep it up.
Ag80 (e03e7a) — 1/15/2011 @ 2:30 pmComment by Vietnameravet — 1/15/2011 @ 2:17 pm
LOL
I think you’ll be interested in this.
Comment by Dmac — 1/15/2011 @ 1:31 pm
Watching Chris Christie describe that meeting to a roomful of people was one of the more satisfying recent political videos I’ve seen. Great stuff.
no one you know (a8b794) — 1/15/2011 @ 2:32 pmHmm. Thesaurus program open.
Here is an applicable one:
tartuffery
Simon Jester (6938b8) — 1/15/2011 @ 2:33 pm#17 in reference to deeply creepy VEV.
Simon Jester (6938b8) — 1/15/2011 @ 2:34 pmApparently, Vietnameravet feels the need to contribute to the climate of hate. Thanks, pal!
Icy Texan (a31b5a) — 1/15/2011 @ 2:37 pmVeV is a complete whack-a-doodle.
JD (6e25b4) — 1/15/2011 @ 2:43 pmpharisaism is also a good descriptor.
Simon Jester (6938b8) — 1/15/2011 @ 2:43 pmWhy dont you tell us one more time about how President Obama hates white people, how there are death panels in the health care bill, how he wants us to die in squalor in government run hospitals, how Democrats want to pull the plug on grandma,() Senator Grassley) how they will put a bullet in the heads of those that disagree with them (Glenn Beck) how they hate the military and how much like Stalin and Hitler Democrats are.
Vietnameravet (35c6c1) — 1/15/2011 @ 2:44 pmTell me how my combat wounded father, a vet of WW2 secretly hated America and on and on and on.. and then tell me how sad it is that you are so unfairly demonized for hate speech..and tell me one more time how much you love vets and the military but any vet that dares speak against your crap need to be on meds..and then explain how your attacks on Senator Kerry were justified..
Hey Tex I is there something wrong with holding up a mirror to you and your kind?? You can give but you havent the balls to take what you dish out!!
Vietnameravet (35c6c1) — 1/15/2011 @ 2:46 pmVEV:
Right there, on corner of your mouth. Give that spittle a little wipe.
Thanks!
Ag80 (e03e7a) — 1/15/2011 @ 2:46 pm10 VEV if you enjoy being around some real sickos, take your dupa over to DU, Kos or Huffington Post. I am unaware of creepy right wing sites unless the luap nor people count and I’m not sure just what paulbots really are politically. In any case how about opining on the photojournalism that depicts leftist anarchy such as over at http://www.zombietime.com Was ok by you if the left threatened Bush incessantly, right? Guess also ok if gays have public sex in front of kids in a SF area park? For the life of me I really don’t understand why Jewish voters love liberal politicians. The left absolutely loves the likes of Castro, ImADamnNutJob, Monkey Boy Chavez, the perpetual victimhood of Palestinians and so on.
Calypso Louie Farrakhan (798aba) — 1/15/2011 @ 2:48 pm*sigh* I wish it were Sockpuppet Friday today.
That would be fun.
no one you know (a8b794) — 1/15/2011 @ 2:48 pmMocking your idiocy is not mocking vets. However, being an idiot, it is understandable how you do not understand that. Unintentional irony appears to be a skill of yours. Maybe you could major in that at Whack-a-doodle University.
JD (109425) — 1/15/2011 @ 2:49 pmVEV surely does bring teh funny!
Old Coot (f73cf0) — 1/15/2011 @ 2:50 pmVeV – your uncivil violence-inducing hate speech is inappropriate and The One told you to quit it.
JD (6e25b4) — 1/15/2011 @ 2:53 pm#22 Your boy Lurch sKerry should have been arrested for treason when he showed up at those Paris Peace Talks. How is he not one lying sack of shit weasel with his “testimony” that fellow soldiers acted like Genghis Khan? Oh yes indeed a real hero with his magic hat, shooting some young vietnamese dude in the ass, getting several tainted purple hearts and thus exiting early from Vietnam. So tell us what actual lies were said about the esteemed Senator from Mass.? I thank god he is just another libtard that didn’t make the Presidency, along with fellow slugs from Mass. Dukakis and Fatboy Kennedy, not to mention Tenn. favorite son, algore.
Calypso Louie Farrakhan (798aba) — 1/15/2011 @ 2:54 pmSorry to disappoint you, VietVet, but I’m not a hateful racist.
Icy Texan (a31b5a) — 1/15/2011 @ 2:54 pmI am getting scared of VEV’s violent rhetoric.
daleyrocks (e7bc4f) — 1/15/2011 @ 2:56 pmCould be the guy has a problem. If not, there is a lot of hypocrisy going on there.
And JD’s right: the President urged people to quit drinking the hateraide.
Simon Jester (6938b8) — 1/15/2011 @ 2:56 pmNote his pathetic excuse of ‘we only strike back in defense of your unwarranted attacks on us’.
Icy Texan (a31b5a) — 1/15/2011 @ 2:56 pmVEV
> Why dont you tell us one more time about how President Obama hates white people,
I don’t think he hates white people. But he sat in a racist church for something like 20 years. are we not even supposed to mention that?
I mean liberals are always trying to claim that the tea party is racist. But the fact that Obama went to a racist church for decades is irrelevant and fomenting hate so even if true we shouldn’t say it.
> how there are death panels in the health care bill,
No, they took them out. And then tried to sneak it in by regulation. And took it out again.
> how he wants us to die in squalor in government run hospitals,
It happens in every other country the has government takeover of healthcare. Not that they want it to happen, but they are blind to the fact that this is the inevitable result.
> how they will put a bullet in the heads of those that disagree with them (Glenn Beck)
Lol when did glenn beck ever say that (in seriousness)?
> how they hate the military
They nominated for president a guy who slandered every single member of the armed forces in 2004. They excluded military recruiters from college campuses. Need I go on?
> and how much like Stalin and Hitler Democrats are.
More like stalin, and Mao. And when Obama puts Chairman Mao on his Christmas tree, what are we supposed to think?
> Tell me how my combat wounded father, a vet of WW2 secretly hated America
I don’t even know who your father is.
> and then explain how your attacks on Senator Kerry were justified..
So Kerry heard President Nixon on the radio on Christmas, 1968, telling us there were no troops in cambodia just after he had gone into Cambodia?
And big picture, does any of this even compare to the spew over 8 years under president bush?
Aaron Worthing (73a7ea) — 1/15/2011 @ 3:04 pmI have a very powerful, and passionate conservative political philosophy. I really get angry at liberals and feel they are attacking my values many times. I don’t want to compromise with them. I don’t want to agree with them, I want my beliefs to prevail. I want my political party to fight them at every step. Is that wrong? However I also believe that when you resort to violent speech, threats and smears you have lost the political discussion. These tactics are the tools of a loser, one who cannot respond with a logical argument against your beliefs.
Boar Breath (917997) — 1/15/2011 @ 3:06 pm“You ignorant hateful bastards ought to take a look in the f*** mirror at the hate”
I don’t have to look in the mirror, I already know that I loathe and despise liberals, socialists and the Democrat Party.
What of it?
I’ll ignore the blather about ignorance and bastardry. My parents were married and I’ve forgotten more about the history of the United States and of the Democrat Party and their foul ideologies than a kiddie schooler like VEV ever knew, or will know.
If I do say so myself.
Dave Surls (7ee0b1) — 1/15/2011 @ 3:12 pmMarkos already looks like Bat Boy… so a pudgy Bat Boy with a badly trimmed beard?
DeepElemBlues (a78b16) — 1/15/2011 @ 3:15 pmTell me how my combat wounded father, a vet of WW2 secretly hated America
I don’t even know who your father is.
Sadly, he is the genetic monstrosity result of an experiment gone horribly wrong…
ColonelHaiku (5430d1) — 1/15/2011 @ 3:22 pmhow does this do anything but underscore the dirty socialist National Soros Radio-type meme that we must watch our rhetoric?
I think it would be more better to have a blog called “climate of our sad little country sinking beneath an ocean of debt while the Chinese giggle”
happyfeet (aa4bab) — 1/15/2011 @ 3:23 pmsadly VEV
ColonelHaiku (5430d1) — 1/15/2011 @ 3:24 pmhas never recovered from
loss of magic hat
Meanwhile, here are some postings of one of the icons of the left, certainly the Hollywood left.
I wouldn’t be so disgusted by such people if they at least admitted their liberal biases do not instill in them any more humaneness or compassion than the average person. Of course, I’d be far less disgusted by them if they admitted their liberalism actually makes them less humane and compassionate than the average person. And I’d really have little difficulty with them if they admitted their liberalism actually makes them less humane and compassionate than the average conservative.
Mark (411533) — 1/15/2011 @ 3:35 pmAs for John Kerry, here’s part of the testimony he gave to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 1971…
“I would like to talk, representing all those veterans, and say that several months ago in Detroit, we had an investigation at which over 150 honorably discharged and many very highly decorated veterans testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia, not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command….”
“They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.”
Fuck John Kerry.
The same fuckers who got us into Vietnam (liberal Democrats), then turn around and start lambasting the guys that liberal Democrats forced to fight there (via the Draft), the minute they think they can secure political advantage for themselves by doing so. The dirty sons of bitches.
Step 1. Liberal Democrats get the United States involved in the Vietnam War.
Step 2. Liberal Democrats force hundreds of thousands of young men to fight that war, giving them the choice of: volunteer to fight the war, get drafted if you won’t volunteer, or go to prison.
Step 3. Liberal Democrats fly into a rage because they bungled the war and as a consequence a Republican was elected POTUS.
Step 4. Liberal Democrats do everything in their power to then cripple a Republican President who is trying to manage the war the Liberals got us into; and part of the way the lowlife Democrats do it, is by vilifying the soldiers that liberal Democrats forced to fight the war the liberal Democrats got us into.
Democrats are the scum of the earth.
They were then, they are now, and I imagine they’re going to continue to be, ’til the sun gutters out.
Dave Surls (7ee0b1) — 1/15/2011 @ 3:49 pmObama is tearing our nation apart with violence and hate it’s awful to see
Things were better under Bush
happyfeet (aa4bab) — 1/15/2011 @ 4:11 pmI cannot believe you guys are picking on a Vietnam Era Vet.
While you jokers and assorted 4Fs were sparking keggers and doing lines of marijuana and chasing sorority townies on college campi, Vietnam Era Vet was probably risking a hernia hauling sacks of “spuds” in a “mess hall” in the sweltering hell of Ft. Polk, or risking a chest cold by sitting too close to the AC while sorting requisition slips in a supply office under the peace torn skies of Offut AFB, or risking certain blisters swabbing hallways at NAS New Orleans.
You weren’t there, man, you can’t judge a Vietnam Era Vet, you don’t know what it is like to be just thousands of miles from being in the thick of it.
A Fine Bunch of Rubens (720b7a) — 1/15/2011 @ 4:11 pmno one judged Vietnam vets when Bush was president
this is awful what Obama has done
happyfeet (aa4bab) — 1/15/2011 @ 4:15 pmJane- a national MEDIA machine? Faux news really scares you liberals and so does Sarah Palin and the various talking radio heads supported by advertisers. What radio figure of the right called for Obama’s assassination? Oh, your leftwing sicko Rhandi Rhodes was just joking about offing W? Show us some proof that tea partiers called blacks N-word people? Tell us the latest violent assclown was either rightwing or influenced by the right. Tell us why the Obama/Holden Justice department is letting criminal activities of new Black panthers skate and don’t give a rat’s ass what black violators of civil rights do? Tell us why all of us who pay taxes have to support leftwing outlets such as NPR and PBS? Why the little wussie liberal clowns cannot compete at all on talk radio but have the vast majority of alphabet tv outlets in their pocket? How does it feel to be obsessed with your self-styled messiah and sexually aroused by Him? Where is the openness and accountability /clean government your idol promised? When will Bush no longer be blamed for everything past, present and future wrong in America? I thought Congress had plenty of accountability and power but left nearly always overlooks the sins, malfeasance and misfeasance of democrats. Tell us why you perceive Sen. Dowd, Sen. Obama and Congressman Barney Frank to have clean hands in the Fanny mae housing debacle? Oh yes, surely a tomato picker working in Ca. making $14k a year deserved his $750k mortgage as did all those getting mortgages while on welfare.
Calypso Louie Farrakhan (798aba) — 1/15/2011 @ 4:17 pm“A white supremacist…”
Gee, I wonder where white supremacists got their ideas from? Couldn’t be from stalwarts of the Democrat Party like John Calhoun, Jefferson Davis, Theodore Bilbo or George Wallace, could it?
Ever hear of race-based slavery, sweetheart? How about Jim Crow? That ringing in any bells?
White Supremacy is YOUR baby, darling. Quit trying to hand your nasty little offspring off to Republican-voting right wingers, like me, who don’t now, and never have had anything to do with the noxious white supremacy crap spawned by the totalitarian political party loons like you associate yourselves with.
Dave Surls (7ee0b1) — 1/15/2011 @ 4:18 pmdont lie mr rubens we all know vietnam era vet was drinking jimson weed milkshakes the depravity of it
DeepElemBlues (a78b16) — 1/15/2011 @ 4:24 pm“I cannot believe you guys are picking on a Vietnam Era Vet.”
You ain’t seen nothing yet, pal. Wait ’til I start in on Benedict Arnold.
😉
Dave Surls (7ee0b1) — 1/15/2011 @ 4:27 pmbenny put hos before bros
his tory wife led him astray the fool
DeepElemBlues (a78b16) — 1/15/2011 @ 4:31 pm“Jane” has posted that same list of drivel under the multiple aliases of William Yelverto, Prof of Hate Speech @@@ MTSU.
JD (6e25b4) — 1/15/2011 @ 4:52 pmHappyfeet – Teh One is clearly the most divisive pezzydent EVAH.
JD (b98cae) — 1/15/2011 @ 4:55 pm____________________________________________
when hate becomes a well ingrained national media machine: Limbaugh, Levin, Savage, Boortz, Beck, O’Reilly, etc
You actually left out someone who has far more importance nationally, from both a symbolic and political standpoint—the guy now in the White House. You know, the liberal who supposedly is chock full of good tidings, care and compassion.
I’m too lazy to dig up a list of the variety of vengeance seekers (or killers) of leftist bent, although the most current, ironic one would be, of course, the murderer in Arizona and the guy who not long ago tried to slash the throat of a NYC cabbie, apparently because of his Middle Eastern background. (Speaking of which, I won’t mention all the assassins — successful or not — who so many liberals love to give a million benefits of the doubt to—ie, murderers of Islamic orientation.) But from a purely symbolic standpoint, such a list would be appropriately topped off by one of the most notorious names in US history, Lee Harvey Oswald.
Mark (411533) — 1/15/2011 @ 5:06 pmObama uses hate and violence to distract from the pervasive joblessness and hopelessness his policies have caused
happyfeet (aa4bab) — 1/15/2011 @ 5:08 pm…one of the most notorious names in US history, Lee Harvey Oswald…
I cannot believe you are picking on Lee Harvey Oswald, he is a Korean War Armistice Era Veteran.
A Fine Bunch of Rubens (720b7a) — 1/15/2011 @ 5:18 pm‘Obama: “Get ready for hand-to-hand combat with your fellow Americans”’
Pretty tough talk from a guy that never goes anywhere without fifty secret service agents to protect him.
Dave Surls (7ee0b1) — 1/15/2011 @ 5:19 pmames Eric Fuller, who was shot at the Safeway last week, allegedly made a threatening comment today to another audience member, Tucson Tea Party co-founder Trent Humphries. It is unclear whether Humphries heard Fuller and the two never engaged. According to the Pima County Sheriff’s Department, Fuller used a cell phone to take a picture of Humphries and allegedly said, “You’re dead.”
Fifteen seconds after the conclusion of the town hall, law enforcement officials approached Fuller and led him to a side entrance. A moment later, Fuller could heard yelling, “What’s the matter–with you–wh*res!” Fuller was charged with disorderly conduct and threatening and intimidation and taken to a local mental health facility, according to the Sheriff’s Department.
ColonelHaiku (5430d1) — 1/15/2011 @ 5:26 pmMan shot at Giffords Rally arrested at ABCNEWS Town Hall for Threatening Teaparty Member…
…will undergo a mental-health evaluation
http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/tragedy-american-conversation-continued/story?id=12624027
ColonelHaiku (5430d1) — 1/15/2011 @ 5:27 pmObama would like nothing better than for the streets to run red with the blood of American patriots
we must pray for him
happyfeet (aa4bab) — 1/15/2011 @ 5:28 pmliberals do not
ColonelHaiku (5430d1) — 1/15/2011 @ 5:31 pmembarrass easy I say
oh the humanity!
“William Yelverto[n], Prof of Hate Speech”
Actually he has a degree in (badly played) classical guitarology (or, something like that).
And, to give credit where credit is due, he’s been known to pack halls that will hold fifteen or twenty people at one his state sponsored guitarology recitals.
He’s kinda like Andrés Segovia would have been, if Segovia had been born without any talent.
Just to keep the record straight.
Dave Surls (7ee0b1) — 1/15/2011 @ 5:31 pm“Dear Lord, this year you have taken away my favorite actor, Patrick Swayze, my favorite actress, Farrah Fawcett, my favorite singer, Michael Jackson…”
Sounds like a lefty all right. No taste. No artistic standards to speak of.
Bet the author’s favorite guitar player is William Yelverton.
Dave Surls (7ee0b1) — 1/15/2011 @ 5:55 pmJaneFonda.com? And here I thought that Hanoi Jane was recalcitrant/had regrets about her youthful traitorous activities over in Vietnam. Why should any of care what she has to say now about so-called rightwing hate speech? I still see cars with Hanoi Jane decals where the brat Calvin is micturating on her. Where does another important artiste Barbra Streisand stand on the current violent state of hateful speech? Saw nothing on her website about it at least. As an Anglophile I am disappointed that Great Britain is dissing Ear Leader by not issuing a wedding invite to the Prince’s wedding. Cannot deem it racist so much because other black world leaders will be there.
Calypso Louie Farrakhan (798aba) — 1/15/2011 @ 6:06 pm__________________________________________
– June 2009: A Holocaust denier and right-wing tax protester named James Von Brunn opens fire at the Holocaust Museum, killing a security guard.
He’s one of the killers of the past few years who I would have been willing to immediately brand as a garden-variety rightwinger, meaning someone whose philosophy in crucial ways mimicked stereotypical conservatism. But even in his case a closer examination reveals idiosyncrasies that align closer to a peculiar leftist bent.
His anti-religious, anti-Christian mindset in particular would be embraced by a variety of pro-atheist liberals. And his mix of perverted anti-Jew sentiment, Mensa connection and background in the creative fields is reminiscent of way too many folks in the land of university campuses and Hollywood.
Mark (411533) — 1/15/2011 @ 6:40 pmMark – there was very little in that rant from Professor Yelverton, skin flautist from MTSU, that had any bearing on reality. His violent hate-filled angry rhetoric is unacceptable in civil society, and Barcky has denounced him.
JD (d4bbf1) — 1/15/2011 @ 6:43 pmWow, VeV seems rather unhinged. I figured him for a corporal klinger, dress wearing, section eightball type. But now, I have to go with a paint huffer or glue sniffer.
vote for pedro (e7577d) — 1/15/2011 @ 6:44 pmVeV, we know you’re disappointed about the November election, but geez. I’d tell you to let it go, but it seems you’ve taken “letting it go” to a whole new level.
Does your amp go to eleven? Take your meds—all of them!
I like the Climate of Hate blog, put it out there and let the natives have at it.
But judging by VEV and Jane’s responses, the hate called out won’t be acknowledged but instead the pre-programmed rationalizations will kick-in. What is it with the left that makes them so utterly unable to be honest and resist the temptation to justify their bad behavior by saying, So what? You’re way worse…?
Dana (8ba2fb) — 1/15/2011 @ 7:08 pmHey,look!
Larry Reilly (ae99e7) — 1/15/2011 @ 7:09 pmThere’s another piece of straw.
Grab it.
Quick!
Has anyone ever seen VeV and EPWJ in a room at the same time?
AD-RtR/OS! (322946) — 1/15/2011 @ 7:21 pmMawy Reilly and VeV have never been seen in the same room either.
JD (d4bbf1) — 1/15/2011 @ 7:31 pmGood question, AD. Actually, I haven’t seen VEV in here in quite awhile. He must have gotten away from his handlers.
PatAZ (537b43) — 1/15/2011 @ 7:32 pmJane, that’s quite a list you have there. But where is the proof that these were conservatives, Tea Partiers, and/or Republicans? And where did you copy and paste this from? Sounds like a lefty blog to me.
PatAZ (537b43) — 1/15/2011 @ 7:35 pmPatAZ – There are actually a large number of lefties on that list.
daleyrocks (e7bc4f) — 1/15/2011 @ 7:39 pmPat – Jane is William Yelverton. He is on another “I’m so pretty, oh so pretty” cross dressing benders again. I suspect if you looked hard enough, you could find that list at any Soros cesspool.
JD (d4bbf1) — 1/15/2011 @ 7:40 pmJD, are you serious re Jane being Yelverton?
Dana (8ba2fb) — 1/15/2011 @ 7:50 pmSerious as a heart attack. He routinely hides behind women’s names and proxies and anonymizeres. That list of Reich wing violence is one of his standards.
JD (d4bbf1) — 1/15/2011 @ 7:53 pmSay what you want, but Larry always entertains. I wonder what his political views are, though, he never mentions them.
Ag80 (e03e7a) — 1/15/2011 @ 7:53 pmAg80 – likely somewhere to the left of Castro.
JD (d4bbf1) — 1/15/2011 @ 7:54 pmHe routinely hides behind women’s names and proxies and anonymizeres.
Internet version of hiding behind their skirts, eh?
Dana (8ba2fb) — 1/15/2011 @ 7:56 pmHe just wears his own, Dana. NTTAWWT
JD (d4bbf1) — 1/15/2011 @ 7:58 pmHow old is Yelverton, anyway? All his regular female names are 1950’s- ’60s popular boomer names.
C’mon man, let’s have an Ashley, Heather, Taylor or Meagan to get some gen Xers’ perspectives into the mix.
elissa (6ea906) — 1/15/2011 @ 7:59 pmAg80 – likely somewhere to the left of Castro.
I cannot believe you are picking on Castro, he is a Bay of Pigs Era Veteran.
A Fine Bunch of Rubens (720b7a) — 1/15/2011 @ 7:59 pmRubens- why do you hate veterans, and dishonor their memories?
JD (d4bbf1) — 1/15/2011 @ 8:01 pmTrust in Mawry. When it comes to ‘grasping at straws’, he knows his biz.
Icy Texan (a31b5a) — 1/15/2011 @ 8:29 pmCuba is a paradise on Earth. Ask anyone who doesn’t live there.
Ag80 (e03e7a) — 1/15/2011 @ 8:34 pmJD, real ones, I don’t.
Clowns like Vietnam Era Vet I will mock as the poseurs they are. Using the tag “Vietnam Era” is almost as odious as the stolen valor types because they seek to equate “Vietnam Era” with actually having been in country.
Unfortunately there are people who fall for it, equally unfortunate, there are people who try the modern equivalent – I saw a guy bragging about his war service pointing to his GWOT Service Medal. BFD, everybody gets one, what he didn’t have was a GWOT Expeditionary Medal, an Iraq Campaign Medal, or an Afghanistan Campaign Medal, or any combination thereof.
Also, as this can apply to me, just because one is a vet, is no cause for automatic adulation. Vets, like any population, have a Gaussian distribution with the Pattons at 2+SD to the right of the mean, and the Lee Harvey Oswalds 2+SD to the left.
I know lots of guys who served honorably during the “Vietnam Era” but never went to Vietnam. To a man, they all say something to the effect of, “I was in the Army in Germany”, or “I was a medic at Letterman” (both actual guys), and never try to make a smokescreen of false equivalence via being a “Vietnam Era” Vet.
Thus my comments as at 81 are aimed at VEV and his ilk.
A Fine Bunch of Rubens (720b7a) — 1/15/2011 @ 8:55 pmI was joking. Sometimes I forget to close the /sarc tags.
JD (d4bbf1) — 1/15/2011 @ 9:11 pmJD – no worries, though some are obvious, and some like Yelverton’s whose fame precedes them from other places, I guess I don’t know all the personalities well enough – that and my having other reasons alluded to.
A Fine Bunch of Rubens (720b7a) — 1/15/2011 @ 9:29 pm__________________________________________
OMG. (I almost want to also insert “LOL”.) You couldn’t make this up.
This is wackier than a plot from the mind of a Hollywood screenwriter—although in that case, the guy arrested below would have been a conservative and he would have been recently shot by a Bible-toting Republican.
The irony is so thick you couldn’t cut it with a knife—pardon the metaphor.
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Mark (411533) — 1/15/2011 @ 9:31 pmWhen in doubt, sarcasm is a safe assumption.
JD (d4bbf1) — 1/15/2011 @ 9:32 pm“that and my having other reasons alluded to” to be short with some.
I blame the Laphroaig though I never claimed I could type worth a damn…
A Fine Bunch of Rubens (720b7a) — 1/15/2011 @ 9:35 pmNo matter how many times you post that, William Yelverton, Professor of Hateful Hate Speech @ MTSU, it will not make it true. But you are a good little beeeyotch.
JD (d4bbf1) — 1/15/2011 @ 9:44 pmIn what universe is it normal for a small midget person thingie to try to pass itself off as a woman?
JD (d4bbf1) — 1/15/2011 @ 9:47 pmDid I mention that Yelverton was once voted one of the top 100 lute players in Murfreesboro, Tennessee?
Show the boy some respect. He’s earned it.
Dave Surls (7ee0b1) — 1/15/2011 @ 9:49 pmJane,
Cool story, bro.
Bridge (ac48cc) — 1/15/2011 @ 9:51 pmI was active duty Army from 1986-1989. I was in the IRR until 1994 (basically, had to tell the Army where I lived in case they wanted to call me back up).
I didn’t get called, and was not in uniform, but I was technically in the U.S. Army Reserve until 1994. Can I call myself a “Gulf War Era Veteran”?
malclave (7b4c12) — 1/15/2011 @ 10:03 pmJane:
When you tell that story, do you get all the chicks?
Ag80 (e03e7a) — 1/15/2011 @ 10:11 pmJane,
Good girl. You’ve learned to cut and paste. Now, you need to (1) show that your statements are correct and (2) show how they supoprt your thesis.
malclave (7b4c12) — 1/15/2011 @ 10:14 pmYelverton, when do you finish your sex reassignment therapy. Have they chopped off your dick yet?
daleyrocks (e7bc4f) — 1/15/2011 @ 10:28 pmYelverton, in your Jane mode when you are on a “No Topless” and you take off your shirt, are you subject to arrest? Enquiring minds want to know.
daleyrocks (e7bc4f) — 1/15/2011 @ 10:31 pmNo Topless beach.
daleyrocks (e7bc4f) — 1/15/2011 @ 10:32 pmMalclave,
Yes you can !
Teh Narrative says also that all Gulf War Vets are FUBAR and broken, psychically scarred and pitiable people because of the devastation wrought upon them by vaccinations, chemicals, and depleted uranium foisted on them by a heartless government, so as a Gulf War Era Vet you can get in on the gravy train – you didn’t have to be there, it is like second or third hand smoke – the emanations and penumbrae from the actual on the ground vets is enough to make you ill and/or not responsible for your actions ! The left will love you !
It is also important to get a set of chocolate chips you can wear on the 4th of July and Veteran’s Day, but you have to wear it with non-subdued rank, badges, and your choice of medals or ribbons. Headgear is boonie hat or black beret even though it was not an issue item at the time.
You could also claim to be a Somalia Era Vet, but nobody has come up with a Narrative so there is no advantage other than getting the stare and mumbling about The ‘Dish, though I am not at all sure what that would be good for except clearing out adjacent seats at a bar or lunch counter.
Also, you can’t hang out at the VFW except as a guest.
A Fine Bunch of Rubens (720b7a) — 1/15/2011 @ 10:39 pmWhy is it that many on the left assign affiliation of Republican, right wing or consevative to people who are white supremists? Don’t they know that one of the founding reasons for the Republican party was to abolish slavery? Don’t they know that until recently there was an unrepentant Kleagle of the KKK who was a Democrat Senator, Robert Byrd? While no longer a member of the KKK, never the less, unrepentant. Don’t they know the only racist speech I’ve heard in recent years come from democrats who seem to think minorities are to stupid to do anything on their own and need the “government” (make that democrats) to help them?
The only people I’ve ever heard at work say someone needs to die were liberals wanting conservatives to be killed. Just look at what was said about the late Tony Snow when he was diagnosed with cancer and then after he died.
Tanny O'Haley (12193c) — 1/15/2011 @ 11:58 pmconsevative = conservative
Tanny O'Haley (12193c) — 1/16/2011 @ 12:02 amMark
i saw that about fuller. i blogged about his comments the other day.
i think we might reasonably give him a little slack. he did get shot. But certainly he hasn’t bolstered his credibility with this incident.
Aaron Worthing (73a7ea) — 1/16/2011 @ 12:33 amI can not help but wonder…
What is Jeff’s stance on violent rhetoric?
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 1/16/2011 @ 1:43 am“Don’t they know that until recently there was an unrepentant Kleagle of the KKK who was a Democrat Senator, Robert Byrd?”
C’mon now. He repented, and apologized, as did many segregationist Democrats, after Jim Crow crashed and burned.
Play hard, but play fair.
Dave Surls (9a57f2) — 1/16/2011 @ 2:24 amand
I call bulls**t. No one else gets forgiven for NOT being racist. Why the hell should admitted racists EVER get a pass?
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 1/16/2011 @ 7:29 amI have relatives living near Murfreesboro, TN. Scary to think Billy Boy might be their neighbor.
I was actually hoping he would feel the need to prove his assertions, but I suppose that would be too much trouble. He just wants to yell “fire” and run.
PatAZ (537b43) — 1/16/2011 @ 8:12 am“Why the hell should admitted racists EVER get a pass?”
I didn’t say Byrd or anyone else should get a pass. I just said that it isn’t true that he didn’t repent.
He did repent and apologize, and so did a lot of other people who had once preached Jim Crow, George Wallace, for example…
‘Wallace announced that he was a born-again Christian in the late 1970s, and apologized to black civil rights leaders for his earlier segregationist views. He said that while he had once sought power and glory, he realized he needed to seek love and forgiveness.[note 3] In 1979, as blacks began voting in large numbers in Alabama, Wallace said of his stand in the schoolhouse door: “I was wrong. Those days are over and they ought to be over.”‘–wiki
I’m big on telling the truth, even if the truth doesn’t support my usual Democrats are the root of all evil meme.
It’s another one of my little character flaws.
Dave Surls (9a57f2) — 1/16/2011 @ 8:42 amIMO, a necessary character flaw lest we become like those we oppose.
Dana (8ba2fb) — 1/16/2011 @ 9:51 amDana, I think that is the Greek-style tragedy we have to be careful about: to become like those we oppose.
But that doesn’t mean not to respond, I realize.
Simon Jester (bbcfcf) — 1/16/2011 @ 10:09 am“I didn’t say Byrd or anyone else should get a pass. I just said that it isn’t true that he didn’t repent.”
Dave Surls – Did Byrd repebnt before or after he started talking about “white niggers” on national television? Just askin’.
daleyrocks (e7bc4f) — 1/16/2011 @ 10:45 amDave
i never heard of his repentance. do you have something to cite to show he did?
Aaron Worthing (73a7ea) — 1/16/2011 @ 11:04 amTo be fair, Aaron (and I am no fan of Cornelius, which was Byrd’s birth name):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd
Read the section on “Race” in which he does apologize for things.
Look at the NAACP’s rating, for example.
Simon Jester (d50d30) — 1/16/2011 @ 11:08 amwell, let me look.
but the naacp’s rating means NOTHING to me. they have proven to be complete political hacks.
Aaron Worthing (73a7ea) — 1/16/2011 @ 11:09 amsimon jester, you are not joking (sorry couldn’t resist),
he definitely seemed to have a change of heart, i guess.
But i believe that despite the NAACP’s endorsement, not because of it.
Aaron Worthing (73a7ea) — 1/16/2011 @ 11:13 amWell, what I meant was this:
“For the 2003-2004 session, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People(NAACP)[55] rated Byrd 100 percent compliant with the NAACP’s position on the 33 Senate bills they evaluated. 16 other senators received that rating.”
But agree with the “politics” comment you made.
http://www.slate.com/id/2075662
You can say he didn’t mean it (and I’m not sure which is a worse: a racist or a person who pretends to be racist to advance political ends), but he did make efforts to apologize/repent.
And I am, again, thoroughly disgusted by the man and his hackery, as well as a racist past.
Simon Jester (d50d30) — 1/16/2011 @ 11:13 amCross-posting, Aaron; apologies. I still think Byrd was an awful political hack.
Simon Jester (d50d30) — 1/16/2011 @ 11:14 amAs far as I can tell, he never turned back. He was talking about “white niggers” late in his life. He was powerful, and a great example of how we have special rules for the powerful.
I would love a bill that simply made all federal funded structures named after Byrd renamed for Medal of Honor winners, and an additional stipulation that no federally funded anything can be named after any congressperson who was ‘serving’ in congress in the past 25 years.
That man was a national embarrassment, much like the organization that uses the name of the great, but lost, NAACP.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 1/16/2011 @ 11:32 amIt doesn’t matter if you like Byrd or hate him, he did repent, he did quit the KKK (or at least he said he did), he did apologize for his racist statements and acts, and he did quit trying to use the government to screw black people over. As a matter of fact, like a lot of Jim Crow Democrats, in the latter part of his career he tried to use the power of government to cut black people special breaks to make up for the past evils perpetrated by members of his political party. That’s why the NAACP loved him so much in his later years.
And, that’s the truth.
Dave Surls (9a57f2) — 1/16/2011 @ 11:40 amDave, you are certainly right about Byrd’s actions…but I doubt he changed much on the inside. Politics trumps all.
I don’t have the reference handy, Dustin, but Byrd sure named a lot of things after himself—using taxpayers’ money to build them.
I like your idea: name things for heroes, not politicians.
Simon Jester (d50d30) — 1/16/2011 @ 11:43 amThe one outstanding article on this subject was written by Radley Balko.
“Violence, Government Violence, and Anti-Government Rhetoric“
Michael Ejercito (64388b) — 1/16/2011 @ 11:51 am“…but I doubt he changed much on the inside.”
As to that, who can say?
IMO, the Democrats moved away from racism against blacks, and more importantly away from using the power of government to oppress black folks mainly because they thought they could secure political advantage by doing so, but then again, people may have noticed that I don’t have much regard for Democrats, especially so-called liberal Democrats, so it’s certainly possible that my opinions and perceptions are colored by that dislike.
I do know this much though, I don’t have a crystal ball that lets me look into men’s hearts and minds, so that I can know what they really think and feel…and that being the case, if I’m going to try and judge motives, I’m just guessing.
I don’t have to guess about what Byrd did though, because that’s something that’s actually known.
Dave Surls (9a57f2) — 1/16/2011 @ 12:00 pmDavid Surls,
Thank you for correcting me. I appreciate the correction. I had read quite some time ago that Senator Byrd was unrepentant. However that doesn’t answer the rest of my comment. Here is my comment corrected for the Robert Byrd error. The correction is in italics.
Why do liberals think that white supremacists are conservatives?
Tanny O'Haley (12193c) — 1/16/2011 @ 12:23 pmMichael Ejercito – A lot of Balko’s typical dishonesty in that article:
“But it’s worth remembering that the government initiates violence against its own citizens every day in this country, citizens who pose no threat or harm to anyone else.”
Yes Radley, the government deliberately seeks to harm innocent and unarmed citizens and drug abuse is a victimless crime.
Radley continues to be a Putz
daleyrocks (e7bc4f) — 1/16/2011 @ 12:41 pmThe party of Lincoln today resembles more the party Dixiecrat party of Strom Thurmond. It is meaningless and even disingenuous in today’s political world to talk about where politics were in the civil war or the early 20th c.
The roles have changed and yes, like or not, white supremacist groups are in fact considered right wing extremists. Doesn’t matter what Lincoln did or Byrd said, or anything else. You have to see how the GP has changed. The 2008 RNC convention had the lowest number of minority delegates in 40 yrs. These are the facts of today, doesn’t matter how you try to spin the argument. The GOP truly has become the white christian party.
Earl T (c982ed) — 1/16/2011 @ 12:49 pmRacist.
daleyrocks (e7bc4f) — 1/16/2011 @ 1:03 pmYou really are pathetic, William the racist midget hilljack Yelverton. Though it is less disturbing that you are not gender bending again today. Get help.
JD (822109) — 1/16/2011 @ 1:14 pmEarl T or are you Yelverton?
Come on! The NPR? How about numbers a little more current from 2010 as far as the racial makeup of candidates in the Republican party and the Democrat party? How about Number of Black Republicans May Emerge As Part of the New Congress or The Rise of Black Republicans? And that’s using a simple Google search. However, why does it matter how many blacks are represented in a particular party? I thought that we were a “color blind” society. The best person for the job and all that…
Why do you hate Christians?
Tanny O'Haley (12193c) — 1/16/2011 @ 1:17 pmConsidered by whom?
Why is that significant? What difference does it make how many delegates had what percentage of melanin in their skins? Who cares, besides racists like you?
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 1/16/2011 @ 1:34 pm#124
I agreed with the general thrust of what you were saying, it was just that one small point was in error, and in all fairness to the late senator, I thought it was only right to point out that that wasn’t really the case.
And, thank you for accepting the correction with such good grace.
That’s classy.
Dave Surls (95e286) — 1/16/2011 @ 1:35 pm#126
Some people, OTOH, aren’t just making an honest mistake…they’re simply lying through their teeth, as is the case in this particular post.
And, that ain’t classy.
Dave Surls (95e286) — 1/16/2011 @ 1:40 pmThe only true rascists are the ones who keep count for their feeble, ignorant talking points.
If the GOP is the party of white extremism, then the Dems are the party of patronizing demogogues who pat the heads of the disenfranchised for their votes while advocating a government that by it’s nature condemns them to second-class status.
Ag80 (e03e7a) — 1/16/2011 @ 1:56 pmAnd do VEV, Reilly, and the troll of the hour show us the falsity of the post? No, each and every one, and all show us exactly the kind of hatred that is the topic.
SPQR (26be8b) — 1/16/2011 @ 4:49 pmYou point to an occasional over the top instances in which people, reacting to your ignorance and hate, strike back..
Occasional?
All right then, what was the “ignorance and hate” that your saintly liberals were reacting to in these cases:
The NJ NEA memo quoted in this post
When Congressman Kanjorski said Rick Scott should be put up against a wall and shot
Sandra Bernhard in 2008 when she said Sarah Palin would be “gang-raped by my big black brothers” if she enters Manhattan
Montel Williams in September 2009 said of Michelle Bachmann:
slit your wrist.
Go ahead… or, do us all a better thing.
Move that knife up about two feet.
Start right at the collarbone.
We can start with those extremely rare examples of liberals just “striking back” against some awful provocation. I want to know specifically what those were in each case. Then we can move on to another set of an “occasional over the top instances”.
Gerald A (9ef895) — 1/16/2011 @ 6:55 pmGerald, they are beyond facts.
i mean if George W. Bush started off his political career at the house of tim mcveigh, what would they say?
But its perfectly okay for Obama to have started off his career at the house of ayers.
no reality.
Aaron Worthing (73a7ea) — 1/16/2011 @ 7:02 pmWilliam Yelverton, Professor of Dishonesty @ MTSU buggers kittens.
JD (d4bbf1) — 1/16/2011 @ 7:12 pm@137
Yeah, but he’s fair about it, he lets them do him first.
malclave (7b4c12) — 1/16/2011 @ 7:33 pmThis is playing with fire. Some of these folks involved in these accounts will resolve this issue on their own (with a contract).
Neo (03e5c2) — 1/17/2011 @ 6:30 amI wish Piven wouldn’t talk about all the sex in the “Tea Party”. Back in the 60′s, most of the hippies were Lefties because it made it so easy to get sex.
Neo (03e5c2) — 1/17/2011 @ 7:00 amNow, the sex crazed Lefties will flock to the “Tea Party” just for the easy sex.
Yeah, but he’s fair about it, he lets them do him first.
I understand he’s even generous enough to offer a reach around as well.
Dmac (498ece) — 1/17/2011 @ 7:31 am