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if Team R controlled public television it would be Nancy Pelosi featured prominently every week

happyfeet (42fd61) — 11/27/2010 @ 1:06 pm

That would be violation of the Geneva Conventions, pikachu

narciso (9d0688) — 11/27/2010 @ 1:09 pm

I’m not sure obsessed as much as terrified she might catch on with the public as did Obama in ’08. I’m not sure she’s “ready” but she damn sure terrifies both the Dems and the Republican elites for exactly the same reason: They can’t control her.

Run Sarah Run! See Sarah Run! Sarah likes scaring the crap out of the ~~powerbrokers~~ ~~powermongers~~ ~~powers that be~~ Oh hell, you know who I mean.

GM Roper (4a1023) — 11/27/2010 @ 1:11 pm

I love the Hammer. Yet if the Lib’s are obsessed, the ‘conservative elites’, yes Charles, that’s you, are ‘preoccupied’.

Precisely why he rushed in to defend her as merely first or foremost among peers.

gary gulrud (790d43) — 11/27/2010 @ 1:14 pm

She opens her book with the Mr. Smith goes to Washington, story, to signal where she’s headed.

narciso (9d0688) — 11/27/2010 @ 1:18 pm

Queen of white evangelical Jesusland America… otherwise known as Dumbfukistan.

http://www.538host.com/gopcollege.png

When asked about reelection strategy, Republican strategist Alex Castellanos says, “Every night President Obama goes to bed and prays that Sarah Palin will run for president.”

That is Obama’s best hope for reelection.

Thank you for promoting Sarah Palin.

ajb (9df40f) — 11/27/2010 @ 1:22 pm

I love the Hammer…
Comment by gary gulrud — 11/27/2010 @ 1:14 pm

Were we talking about Tom DeLay?

AD-RtR/OS! (0ac8fd) — 11/27/2010 @ 1:28 pm

Thank you for showing how clueless your trolling is, ajb. Patterico is not promoting Sarah Palin.

SPQR (26be8b) — 11/27/2010 @ 1:29 pm

“ajb”???
Is that code for “liesandtyranny”?

AD-RtR/OS! (0ac8fd) — 11/27/2010 @ 1:29 pm

http://www.politicususa.com/en/palin-hunter-fraud

If it sounds good, if she thinks the voters, book buyers, or speech payers will like it, she says it. Doesn’t matter if it’s true. She’s creating a cult of followers on an image… almost entirely a white evangelical cult, low on education and policy, big on phoney image and publicity.

I think next, maybe an hour long momma grizzly pay-per-view event to announce her candidacy?

ajb (9df40f) — 11/27/2010 @ 1:30 pm

My fellow paisan as with many, started out working for Jesse Helms, he should know better.

narciso (9d0688) — 11/27/2010 @ 1:32 pm

gary gulrud – Paulbots love Sarah Palin? I thought only Nor Laup could save America.

daleyrocks (df87cd) — 11/27/2010 @ 1:32 pm

“Were we talking about Tom DeLay?”

While I did note DeLay seems to have acquired the nickname, the dead yield up their exclusive right to such monikers.

gary gulrud (790d43) — 11/27/2010 @ 1:33 pm

12. daleyrocks – Sorry, whatever the cause I cannot divine any fragment of your meaning.

gary gulrud (790d43) — 11/27/2010 @ 1:37 pm

Appropos of Paulbots, I did have the thought, last night, that Palin could test the ‘loyalists’ thru IA and ‘pragmatists’ thru NH and then declare a third party run.

Avoid the gang rape primary guantlet, the Romney/Huckabee peepee flashings, loyalist uterine stalkers and maybe steal a few votes from Paul. Half of them will bolt to someone election eve.

Quarter of a billion dollars would make for a decent attempt.

Is that kinda what you wanted?

gary gulrud (790d43) — 11/27/2010 @ 1:47 pm

In order to divine meaning, it requires one to have more than a fragment upstairs.

Icy Texan (cbc068) — 11/27/2010 @ 2:01 pm

ajb is really sucking down the kool-aid today.

No matter what they say, they are TERRIFIED of her — period.

Icy Texan (cbc068) — 11/27/2010 @ 2:03 pm

Baby ajb meme-spitter gets its talking points from the same places Yelverton does.

JD (6e25b4) — 11/27/2010 @ 2:04 pm

I think Charles Krauthammer is right in a sense. I know that a lot of conservatives think that liberals fear Palin, but I don’t believe it. Their egos, their sense of self worth will not allow it. They really do despise her and the problem for conservatives is that Independents don’t like her much better. So yeah, I think that liberals want to keep Palin in the public eye as a symbol for the Republican party.

I also saw Krauthammer on Fox last night and he made the point that he thought it would be a fatal error if the Tea Party movement began to include social issues in their policies. I think he is right about that too.

Terrye (7d99e4) — 11/27/2010 @ 2:08 pm

“Krauthammer .. made the point that he thought it would be a fatal error if the Tea Party movement began to include social issues in their policies.”

Agreed, however, to read DeMint, and others, in their ‘social and fiscal conservatism are inseparable’ as looking for Federal legislation of moral issues is misapprehension, regardless of the hearer’s motivation.

Use of the commerce clause, or due process clause, has been to expand federal government and purview at the expense of the states. The goal of the TEAs is to end this coercion.

gary gulrud (790d43) — 11/27/2010 @ 2:22 pm

16. I am reminded of the scene in a burning Atlanta where Tuco happens on a bath and bath salts. “If you’re gonna shoot, shoot. Don’t talk.”

gary gulrud (790d43) — 11/27/2010 @ 2:30 pm

It’s too bad that Levin won’t be back on the air until Monday. Until then, you’re on your own.

Icy Texan (cbc068) — 11/27/2010 @ 2:40 pm

Krauhammer is on more solid ground on foreign policy, on domestic he has been more fallible thinking there would be backlash with the Tea Party,
and that ‘death panels’ were a wrong call. We really haven’t seen the other competitors really challenged, recall Romney was attacked even though
he was ‘refudiating’ most of the GOP positions in 1994, he did better in 2002, but Taibbi for one was already to recycle the Bain Capital accusation,

narciso (9d0688) — 11/27/2010 @ 3:06 pm

While I did note DeLay seems to have acquired the nickname, the dead yield up their exclusive right to such monikers.

Last I looked, DeLay was just convicted, not deceased.

AD-RtR/OS! (0ac8fd) — 11/27/2010 @ 3:56 pm

+10 for number 17, icy Texan.

ColonelHaiku (9720ad) — 11/27/2010 @ 5:01 pm

I don’t know if Americans want to elect a feel-good, short on details Palin as President.

But then again we did elect Obama.

Arizona Bob (e8af2b) — 11/27/2010 @ 5:37 pm

ajb or whatever said:

Queen of white evangelical Jesusland America… otherwise known as Dumbfukistan.

http://www.538host.com/gopcollege.png

When asked about reelection strategy, Republican strategist Alex Castellanos says, “Every night President Obama goes to bed and prays that Sarah Palin will run for president.”

He may or may not.

Condemning the half of the nation you consider “dumbfuckistan” is not exactly a winning strategy.

But I have to assume your strategy for perfection is preventing the dumbfucks from voting which may all be well and good. However, who decides who the dumbfucks are?

You? The government?

Sure, dumbfucks are irritating, but some of those stupid dumbfucks can read and, apparently have access to the internet.

Maybe the solution is to limit the use of computers and internet to the non-dumbfucks.

You useless dumbfuck.

I apologize for my profanity. However, some of us in Jesusland just prefer not to be called dumbfucks and that stupid Jesus forgives us all.

Ag80 (e828a4) — 11/27/2010 @ 7:30 pm

She would keep taxes low, cut a fair amount of discretionary spending, our military properly furnished, oil derrricks pumping 24/7, push for
a market based health care plan, not grant terrorists ‘Miranda rights’ any more specifics you need

narciso (9d0688) — 11/27/2010 @ 7:36 pm

Run Sarah, Run!! Give em hell…
Palin2012..
Get your stickers here

The Emperor (e5e7f3) — 11/27/2010 @ 8:53 pm

24. Beg your pardon. Let me clarify 13 in response to 7:

Piss off.

gary gulrud (790d43) — 11/27/2010 @ 9:13 pm

30…Cogent and Learned!

AD-RtR/OS! (0ac8fd) — 11/27/2010 @ 11:24 pm

Thank you, Colonel.

Icy Texan (a8367b) — 11/28/2010 @ 3:00 am

Actually, I think Colby King (?) sums up the liberal point of view in response to Krauthammer.

Liberals view Sarah Palin as the driving force behind the Republican resurgence. They are stuck in the thinking that only a great leader can cause things to happen. They don’t seem to realize that she’s surfing her own wave of Midwestern populism and the Tea Party movement is a separate wave. That they are both heading in similar directions confuses and confounds them.

They keep swatting at her, thinking that bringing her down will stop this rising tide of Republican support. But really she’s just a figurehead behind a cultural shift. And all the insults thrown at her are accelerating that shift instead of hindering it.

Meanwhile, the Republican leadership sees Palin for what she is, a populist riding her wave. But they have a two front battle with her anti-blue blood populism and the small-government touting Tea Party rising on the other side.

Xmas (f72f61) — 11/28/2010 @ 4:18 am

That’s possibly the best take on it, Xmas, Krauthammer is wary of populist movements, so he’s
not a neutral analyst in this, as I’ve pointed out.
Backroom deals are anathema to her, as she mentions
in her book,

narciso (9d0688) — 11/28/2010 @ 5:44 am

I think liberals are obsessed with Palin for the same reason they killed the nomination of Miguel Estrada. There was no way they were going to allow the first Latino Supreme Court Justice to be put there by a Republican, and there is no way they’re going to allow the first woman President to be a Republican. They think they own minority issues, and any successful minority politician who isn’t one of their own must be either a lie or a failure, and that’s the only way they’re going to talk about them.

That’s not to say I think Sarah is ready to run the country. I was disappointed by the way she dealt with her problems in Alaska, and while she’s currently gaining public exposure, she isn’t getting any more practical executive experience that would make her a believable chief executive.

Socratease (b2cf99) — 11/28/2010 @ 8:23 am

Thanks narciso,

I’d also add the Palin’s populism isn’t the usual Christian social conservative populism, which also worries the Republican leadership. That sort of populism *cough*Huckabee*cough* they know how to handle.

Xmas (f72f61) — 11/28/2010 @ 8:28 am

Those that dismiss her (supposed) future aspirations, rarely give her that much credit, for what she has been able to do; under the circumstances. And it hasn’t been for personal enrichment, as some have suggested; she still lives modestly, as we see on her show. She is still faithful to the values she grew up, unlike many who discard them, like a new set of clothes

kATIE COURIC (9d0688) — 11/28/2010 @ 9:47 am

Bush and Obama will go down as this country’s worst Presidents. Even the Bush Tax Cuts are not even tax cuts when you consider the debt and future tax used to pay for them. The core flaw of both these men is they let the country run them, instead of them running the country. If you can’t convince the nation Congress policies are lunacy, or you are a lunatic yourself, you don’t get to be President.

This fiscal house of cards will collapse faster than anyone imagined. The Freddie/Fannie fiasco is just one example of how Democrats and Republicans alike have swept the big issues under the rug while shouting distractions from the rooftops. Tea Party Theater is good entertainment, but it discredits the valid “fiscal conservatism without the ‘guns, gays, & god'” message. There are many who agree with government austerity but cannot vote Republican for other reasons. Er, God help us all.

Wesson (019671) — 11/28/2010 @ 12:21 pm

Comment by Xmas — 11/28/2010 @ 4:18 am

So what classification does Michele Bachmann fall under-Midwestern Populist or TEA party lightning rod?

How can we tell the difference?

gary gulrud (790d43) — 11/28/2010 @ 12:27 pm

And another thing…
How the hell does David Gregory and Andrea Mitchell get work on Meet The Press? Gregory is married to former Fannie Mae executive vice president, general counsel and corporate secretary, Beth Wilkinson. Mitchell’s husband is Alan Greenspan, Chairman of the Fed from 1987 to 2006, and who had a major role in the housing bubble and global mortgage and banking meltdown.

How do Gregory and Mitchell get to say anything about anything, anywhere!? I haven’t seen today’s episode, but in previous weeks they’ve chatted about politics, the meltdown, etc. in their roundtable. It is absolutely ridiculous. This stuff is a big deal.

Wesson (019671) — 11/28/2010 @ 12:48 pm

Oh Great Oliagenous One:
We do not pay for Tax Cuts, we have to pay for Spending!
The problem is not the Tax Cuts which energized the economy, causing it to expand at a greater rate,
thusly increasing government revenues even accounting for the lower rate of taxation;
the problem is that the Congress (whether controlled by the Big-Govt Dems, or the Slightly-Less Big-Govt Reps)
increase spending on the order of 1.3-1.8 Dollar$ for every increase in revenue of $1!

Therefore, the argument could be made that the tax-cuts,
by increasing the revenue stream that enabled the Congress to ramp-up spending at a faster rate than would otherwise prevail,
is responsible for our current deficit problems.
Except, the Dem controlled Congress has, since taking control in 01/07,
fed the deficit monster to the tune of $5-Trillion$;
way, way, more than would have been spent under a GOP-led Congress which in its last budgeted year had a deficit of only $146-Billion (IIRC).

BTW, I don’t want a President who “runs the country”.
I want a President who is a faithful servant of the people, and true steward of the Republic of which he has been selected to represent.
Jimmy Carter demonstrated that Presidents cannot even run a tennis schedule, and shouldn’t attempt to – that’s why we have college graduates who majored in Recreation.

And, the coming collapse you warn us about, will have the same roots as the collapse we are currently dealing with:
The moronic policies imposed upon us by a Congress that felt it was more important to “feel good” about something than to do something constructive
(Think Barney and Chris re the FM2 fiasco + FrankenDodd, JEC/WJC and CRA, Obambi and the entire HealthCare Reform (m)uck-up…well, you get my drift).

AD-RtR/OS! (e2c6d2) — 11/28/2010 @ 12:50 pm

40)They don’t expect you to figure that part out, or attribute it, to the current circumstance

narciso (9d0688) — 11/28/2010 @ 1:25 pm

In so far as President Bush pushed back on Freddie/Fannie, he failed. His effort to rally the nation failed. The President’s effort to twist the arm of Congress failed. Bush was defeated by Barney Frank, we are led to believe. Results matter.

Anyway, let’s get back to talking about Sarah and Bristol Palin – The Future.

Wesson (019671) — 11/28/2010 @ 1:36 pm

“Oh, we know about the future Comrade, it’s the past that is still to be determined.”

AD-RtR/OS! (e2c6d2) — 11/28/2010 @ 1:40 pm

43) actually Donilon the National Security advisor, Johnson, who picked Ferraro and Biden, a quarter century apart, Davis, who was one of McCain’s campaign advisors, and others, were leased by Fannie and Freddie, if not bought outright.

narciso (9d0688) — 11/28/2010 @ 1:43 pm

45…Yes, but it is Sarah that presents the greater danger to the Republic –
or is it just to the “money-changers within the temple”?

AD-RtR/OS! (e2c6d2) — 11/28/2010 @ 1:46 pm

She couldn’t be bought, as the experience with William Allen showed, hence they did the best to destroy her, the Mr. Smith and to a lesser extent;
George Bailey’s confrontation with Mr. Potter, is
the template

narciso (9d0688) — 11/28/2010 @ 1:50 pm

Socratease: “there is no way they’re going to allow the first woman President to be a Republican.”

Excellent point. Remember Paglia’s shock at Palin’s feminism and star quality after nomination speech?

Come to think of her, where has Paglia gone to? Rise of Palin, collapse of Beelzebub, Camille’s gone missing. Strange.

gary gulrud (790d43) — 11/29/2010 @ 3:09 am

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