Racism Made Him Steal, and Kill
[Guest post by Jack Dunphy]
Only the naïve among us failed to expect this. From MSNBC:
MANCHESTER, Connecticut — Omar Thornton sat calmly in a meeting with union representative and his supervisors as they showed a video of him stealing beer from the distributor where he worked.
Busted, he didn’t put up a fight, company officials said. He quietly signed a letter of resignation and was headed for the door when he pulled out a gun and started firing — “cold as ice,” as one survivor described it.
In the end, Thornton killed eight people, injured two, then turned the gun on himself in a rampage Tuesday at Hartford Distributors that union and company officials said they would not have anticipated from someone with no history of complaints or disciplinary problems.
Yet relatives say Thornton, 34, finally cracked after suffering racial harassment in a company where he said he was singled out for being black in a predominantly white work force.
Pathetic. Expected, but still pathetic.
–Jack Dunphy
Greetings:
Last time I looked, the US Department of Justice’s statistics indicated that a Caucasian had 3-4 times the chance of being murdered by a Negro as a Negro did of being murdered by a Caucasian. Apparently, this has yet to be brought to the attention of our uncowardly Attorney General, Eric Holder.
11B40 (1f3816) — 8/4/2010 @ 11:34 amWow, that’s a first. Racism made me steal beer.
ng4779 (87ef1b) — 8/4/2010 @ 11:39 amYou know, this paranoia that some blacks have that anything negative a white person does with relation to them must be racism, is one of the saddest aspects of American culture and a big reason I can’t stand people like the Sherrod couple or Rev Wright.
This constant drumbeat of ‘they are out to get you, they want to enslave you, they hate you’ poisons so many minds out there and makes it basically impossible to evolve beyond some ugly history. And it’s all for silly short term power. I remember Clinton whining about talk radio leading to violence, but that isn’t reasonable. It is reasonable to wonder just how much violence all this paranoia causes.
If you get caught stealing, you are going to get fired no matter what your race is. If you encounter one racist, that doesn’t mean you can stereotype all like them as racists. I can’t assert all black gov workers are like Sherrod, or I’d be a hateful nutcase.
Holder’s right that there is some cowardice behind the lack of open discussion of this particular phenomenon. I’m not complaining that I’m oppressed… it’s the paranoid people… those who attend Rev Wright’s services or believe Breitbart wants to enslave black people who are really oppressed.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 8/4/2010 @ 11:44 amIt was the gun that caused this, he was powerless to resist its’ will.
AD - RtR/OS! (88472e) — 8/4/2010 @ 11:47 amBill Cosby has talked about this for years. He and our black Univ. of California (sorry can’t remember his name) commissioner seem to be the only people talking about the black people needing to take responsibility for their own actions and quit blaming anybody else. It is not PC for white people to talk about this in public. When the black culture finally does stand up against this “whoa is me” attitude, they will begin to succeed.
Bald01 (3771f4) — 8/4/2010 @ 11:59 amWard Connerly!
AD - RtR/OS! (88472e) — 8/4/2010 @ 12:13 pmI think the thing that bothers me most about this is that it’s an attempt to flip the morality of the situation. By playing the race card, they are trying to make this murderer into a victim, and the people he murdered into villains.
What it really says, deep down, is that they all deserved to die.
Steven Den Beste (99cfa1) — 8/4/2010 @ 12:15 pmSDB – It is rather craven, no?
JD (c13155) — 8/4/2010 @ 12:16 pmThe Los Angeles Sentinel carries a cartoon today that shows a Tea Cup with KKK men and a burning cross in the background. Are blacks who vote 95% Democrat taking the Party even farther to the left? The current climate makes a man pause before he says or writes anything even faintly critical of blacks. I’ve opted to exercise my freedom of speech and say what’s on my mind.
mhr (efa965) — 8/4/2010 @ 12:17 pmGreetings:
Last time I looked, the US Department of Justice’s statistics indicated that a Caucasian had 3-4 times the chance of being murdered by a Negro as a Negro did of being murdered by a Caucasian. Apparently, this has yet to be brought to the attention of our uncowardly Attorney General, Eric Holder.
Comment by 11B40 — 8/4/2010 @ 11:34 am
Well, actually, whether you are black or white, your chances of being raped or murdered by a black person, as opposed to a person of another race, are 93 out of a hundred.
And, in the words of Sherryl Sherrod, they send most of their rapes and murders to their own people. Black people are nine times out of ten more likely to be raped or murdered by another black person.
Wadda?
nk pretening he's Obama (db4a41) — 8/4/2010 @ 12:22 pmhttp://www.lasentinel.net/Opinion/
Is that what you are referring to, mhr?
JD (c13155) — 8/4/2010 @ 12:23 pmThere was plenty of racism in the mass murder but the media has the location of the racism wrong.
Mike K (0ef8c3) — 8/4/2010 @ 12:25 pmNow look there have been a lot of ridiculous excuses for bad behavior (like the ptsd by proxy theory the NYT humped after the Ft. Hood massacre), and ridiculous accusations of racism (like pretty much every such accusation at the tea party).
But the fact is this man’s anger came from somewhere. And I want to be clear. Liberals like to fetishize the anger of sociopaths as an indictment on their victims. The worst example of that was inquiry after 9-11 “why they hate us.” The truth is that criminals are most often idiots or nuts, who are driven to violence by inane things. Tim McVeigh for instance carried out the OKC bombing because he wanted to spark a revolution of white Christians to take over the government and nuke isreal. Yeah, his anger comes from somewhere: somewhere stupid.
But sometimes they are mad about something that is genuinely wrong. I mean that is where vigilantism comes from, right? Anyone who has seen “A Time to Kill” for instance might not condone what Sam Jackson’s character did in this movie. But certainly every father of a little girl understands exactly the desire to do it. if someone harmed my niece or my little cousin that way, I cannot say with confidence that I wouldn’t go and kill the bastards myself. Who here could absolutely rule it out?
So let’s break this down. Okay the black dude stole a little beer, got fired. I didn’t see where they were implying that racism made him do that. But what if it was the case that in fact people openly and notoriously stole beer there all the time, and he was the only one being fired for it? And what if he felt he was being picked out because he was black? And what if we figured out he was right?
I have seen it happen in my life time. I have seen white people and black people in my school engaging in virtually identical behavior and the black guy being punished more. People may be to quick to call racist these days (I know understatement of the year), but I have seen situations that are hard to explain without considering racism.
Of course MSNBC surely is confusing finding a reason with finding an excuse. He was wrong to do it. But as they say on the People’s Court, if someone does you wrong, don’t take the law into your own hands, you take them to court. That is bluntly what they are here for: to be a form of alternate dispute resolution, meaning as an alternative to private violence.
The other day I was explaining my view on the “troubles” in Ireland, saying it wasn’t about religion contrary to popular belief, but about ethnicity—the irish resisting the scotch irish who are descended from invaders from a few centuries back. Someone responded by saying I was justifying terrorism. Nothing of the sort. We need to learn to separate the way we act from the reason we act. Too often people think that if the cause is right, one is justified in doing anything they want to advance the cause, however evil. Liberals seem to think that about Palestine, being wrong about two things (the Palestinian cause is actually evil, and their tactics are evil, too). On the other hand, liberals classically smear the value of a cause by attacking the method of its prosecution. So the abuses of abu ghraib—which were punished, by the way—are used to try to paint the war in Iraq as evil. And mei lei is used to cover up for the fact that the south Vietnamese were so terrified of what was coming that they were clinging to our helicopters as we left. Our soldiers didn’t cover themselves in glory in Vietnam (although the stories are exaggerated), but we were far better than the alternative as subsequent history showed.
So maybe all being said, we would find an injustice was done to this man and the anger from that injustice drove his actions. But that is not the same as saying he was justified in what he did. Or maybe this killer scapegoated his coworkers as racists as a way of avoiding his own sense of failure. But its not facially ridiculous to imagine a scenario where a man commits a horrific, unjustifiable crime, because he was genuinely aggrieved. And you can note that he was genuinely aggrieved without implying he was right, excused or justified to do what he did.
Of course there is one other question, which is whether this is a valuable thing for the press to look into. I would say not. It skirts with blaming the victim (because we can’t trust MSNBC to make the distinction I did), and it really doesn’t add anything we didn’t already know. Yes, things that rightfully piss people off can lead to someone doing an injustice themselves. And it certainly doesn’t help with any dialogue on race. There are plenty of people facing discrimination who don’t shoot up workplaces, how about we focus on them instead?
Aaron Worthing (A.W.) (e7d72e) — 8/4/2010 @ 12:28 pmI blame Bush. And Kyoto. And crissyhooten.
JD (c13155) — 8/4/2010 @ 12:30 pmJD
god, that is foul.
that is outright defamation. if only one could sue for group defamation.
Aaron Worthing (A.W.) (e7d72e) — 8/4/2010 @ 12:31 pmAnd this will be quickly followed by the lawsuit by the killers family.
Gerald A (a231dc) — 8/4/2010 @ 12:31 pmThere you go again Dunphy. Always trying to hold the black man down! Didn’t they say that on MSNBC just last night?
Mike Myers (3c9845) — 8/4/2010 @ 12:54 pmSo not true. One of the first lessons I learned on the job. I worked at a popular cinnamon roll shop, and a cashier that got caught stealing change from the register was fired on the spot. He stole five dollars.
A manager stole the money out of the safe, went to Louisiana and gambled it away in a night. He had to pay the money back and go to therapy. He kept his job, at least for as long as I worked there.
I’ll let you guess which was white and which was black. The guy who stole five dollars was a great guy and absolutely deserved to be fired, but so did the other guy.
Still doesn’t justify pulling a gun and killing someone.
Becky (7e9a11) — 8/4/2010 @ 1:08 pm#18
When is cronyism different than racism?
I had a Mexican kid steal from me on the job and I caught him and made him work it off…. I want a cookie!!! Maybe if he’d of been darker skinned and from Vera Cruz with some African blood, I could apply for a dispensation?
Would I do the same for a black guy?
SteveG (f6fb69) — 8/4/2010 @ 1:33 pmI’ll never know. Haven’t seen a young black guy show up on my jobs for a hard manual labor job in a long, long time…ever actually. I have seen an all black framing crew totally bust ass, but otherwise, I dunno how Shirley Sherrod did it…
Can I wonder aloud if hard manual labor smacks too much of slavery or did I just lose my dispensation?
By the way, this case would take a racist boss and a racist union representative and racist white co-worker guys stealing beer with impunity. A perfect racist storm.
I did have a friend back in the late 70’s and early 80’s who worked for the local Bud distributor and when the brewery delivered a broken pallet, they could wash off the remaining beers and keep them. Plus they got a twelve pack a week.
SteveG (f6fb69) — 8/4/2010 @ 1:41 pmMy guess is they don’t do this anymore because of the liability.
A.W. and Becky…
In both of your stories, what would have happened had the person who was fired NOT STOLEN FROM THE BUSINESS???
….just wondering…..
reff (176333) — 8/4/2010 @ 1:43 pmRacism killed my father and raped my mother ….
East Coast Chris (ded5f2) — 8/4/2010 @ 1:45 pmreff
well mine is not a story so much as a hypothesis. so i guess if you assume that they were just looking for an excuse they would find a new one.
I’m not saying he was definitely the victim of racism. and i am definitely not saying that it woudl justify or excuse any of it, if he was. i am just saying its not unreasonable to say maybe he had a legitimate right to be angry, although what he did as a result was evil. Anger, justified or not, drives alot of evil.
Aaron Worthing (A.W.) (e7d72e) — 8/4/2010 @ 2:01 pmA.W…what you did say was, and I’ll quote: “But the fact is this man’s anger came from somewhere.”
Who cares where his anger came from, since he did not manifest it until AFTER he got fired for stealing. Had he not stole, he would not have manifested his anger then, and while it’s easy to say something else would have brought it out, what brought it out was HIS OWN DECISION TO STEAL, with the result that he got caught.
I have a temper. I’ve been arrested for that anger, and found guilty in court. I didn’t have a built in “reason” for my anger so I didn’t get to blame others. What I did learn from my anger is that I have to control it (WHICH, BY THE WAY, MY PARENTS TOLD ME, BUT I DIDN’T LISTEN) or it comes out and it is my fault. So, when it came out, it was my fault, and NO ONE ELSE could be blamed. For you to say “his anger came from somewhere” dismisses HIS OWN RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THE RIGHT THING (NOT STEAL) AND THEN DO THE RIGHT THING AGAIN (CONTROL HIS OWN ANGER).
I agree that anger is evil, and what he did was evil. But, any attempt to “defend” that evil is worse than the event itself. It allows for people to make an excuse for their behavior. That has to stop.
reff (176333) — 8/4/2010 @ 2:20 pmI have a temper too get me drunk and ask me about that one time at the cupcake store.
happyfeet (71f55e) — 8/4/2010 @ 2:33 pmBeing white is a crime now.
Being black is permanent, guilt free status.
When will Holder, Obama and Sharpton take responsibility for inciting this violence?
HeavenSent (ff0596) — 8/4/2010 @ 2:56 pmMaybe he was upset he was not invited to last summer’s Beer Summit………
HeavenSent (ff0596) — 8/4/2010 @ 2:59 pmThis incident will provide Barack Obama with a campaign slogan for 2012 when all of his policies have failed and all his legislation has backfired, when he can no longer blame George Bush.
When he can’t run on his record, and he can’t promise hope or change again, Obama will be able to stand erect, smile for the TV cameras, and with a straight face claim, The White Guys Made Me Do It.
ropelight (130548) — 8/4/2010 @ 3:01 pmObviously the dead co-workers acted stupidly.
Marie (02b253) — 8/4/2010 @ 4:08 pmmedia also
ColonelHaiku (63753b) — 8/4/2010 @ 4:09 pmlike say job loss good reason
kill the wife and kids
Bill Maxwell of the St. Petersburg (Fla.) Times wrote this recent column, “Code of silence corrodes morality, puts blacks at risk,” about three black women — Delores Keen, Renee Roundtree, and Rose Dodson — who committed the no-no of coming to the aid of two wounded and dying Tampa police officers, David Curtis and Jeffrey Kocab.
Roundtree checked the officers’ pulses, and Keen dialed 911. The three women stayed with the dying officers until others arrived. The Hillsborough County Commission honored the women for trying to help the officers.
Since their identities were made public, the woman have been criticized by fellow blacks almost everywhere they go, walking down the street, at local social clubs, and in stores.
Their sin was helping “the enemy” — the police. You can be guilty of helping the enemy in two main ways: You give the police, or another authority, information about a black person who has committed or is suspected of having committed a crime, which is “snitching.” Or, as is the case with these three women, you physically aid and comfort police in distress, which is treated the same as snitching.
By trying to help the officers, Keen, Roundtree, and Dodson showed, in the eyes of many, that they are not “authentically black.” They are traitors to their race.
Towards the end of his column, Maxwell, who is black, writes
Black criminals victimize their own people. And we help them. If we do not call the police, we deserve the mayhem and dysfunction we suffer. When we conceal the identity of a murderer, we endanger everyone. When we turn our backs on drug deals near our homes, we cheapen the rule of law and destroy social values. In addition to its self-destructiveness, the snitching ethos alienates us from others, putting us at odds with normal behavior.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/242461/race-traitors-and-codes-silence-jack-fowler
ColonelHaiku (63753b) — 8/4/2010 @ 4:13 pmObviously, the beer distributor acted stupidly by firing Omar for stealing.
daleyrocks (940075) — 8/4/2010 @ 4:29 pm#31
I saw on Drudge that the other day in Paterson, NJ that a man was shot at a neighborhood block party.
The party was to promote non-violence.
Evidently the two men got in an argument and one got shot.. I got your non- violent BS right here!
So if the PD rolls up and they happen to be white… is the whole thing their fault and if they get shot like the Tampa officers did, is that just liberation theology rewired?
SteveG (f6fb69) — 8/4/2010 @ 4:38 pmhad aunt and uncle longtime Angelenos that live in Watts and own sporting goods store there. Seeing dead bodies on ground and in dumpster was common sight. They treat peeps with respect and fairness and had one of few business not burned to ground during riots of 1965.
But that did it for them. They had been building a retirement home in Crestline and they couldn’t escape there fast enough. Many, many more good people than bad in the black community, but squeaky wheel get the grease.
ColonelHaiku (1baff7) — 8/4/2010 @ 4:59 pmI went to an integrated public high school back in the late 60’s. When black kids were caught and punished for doing wrong (usually assault, robbery, etc) they would usually cry “racism!” (and a large percentage of the other black kids would agree.) I eventually learned that most complaints of racism were false and were due to evil motivations.
pst314 (dbf8fd) — 8/4/2010 @ 5:30 pm“I’m not saying he was definitely the victim of racism…”
Aaron Worthing: Here is a far more likely explanation: He was a bad employee who was treated fairly, but his mind had been poisoned by a lifetime of indoctrination in race paranoia and resentment.
pst314 (dbf8fd) — 8/4/2010 @ 5:32 pmI had an EEOC complaint filed against my company after I fired a black employee for stealing. At the hearing, which I did not attend but sent the head of HR, when the EEOC Officer asked where the complainant was, we said she was being arrested outside the hearing room by the Chicago PD for theft, which we had arranged. The EEOC Officer said that was all she needed to hear on the case and closed it.
True story.
daleyrocks (940075) — 8/4/2010 @ 5:38 pmShe was not thieving. She only “borrowed it by accident” and in any case it was really done by “someotherguy”.
nk (db4a41) — 8/4/2010 @ 5:43 pmIn this case it isn’t “someotherguy”… it’s, all the white people were doing it too!
OK, lets fire everyone including you
SteveG (f6fb69) — 8/4/2010 @ 5:55 pmI guess this guy thought proper payback for the harassment was to steal beer.
Seems like litigation lotto, with the US taxpayer footing the bill, would have been a better bet.
And he could not have been ignorant of his rights, given workplace signage required to tell people of all the services government will provide.
Oh, right, maybe the racism of his schooling prevented him from learning to read and think much past breathing and eating.
Harry Schell (6c3f1c) — 8/4/2010 @ 6:05 pmIt’s a shame there wasn’t a CCW permit holder around…
Blacque Jacques Shellacque (baf610) — 8/4/2010 @ 6:42 pmMy guess? He was a paranoid schizophrenic.
Techie (43d092) — 8/4/2010 @ 6:43 pmColonel think he was
ColonelHaiku (1baff7) — 8/4/2010 @ 7:10 pmKleptomaniacKiller
nodoubtaboutit
Liberals and Blacks always bring up racism when the narrative doesn’t fit the realities of the situation. Wrong is wrong…
Whenever I hear the term racist being used, I believe the other side.
Anyway, given the overuse of the term racism, the name calling effect will diminish in effectiveness.
jcloh (27638e) — 8/4/2010 @ 7:36 pmThe racism drove him to drink. He had to steal to live with himself. Heck, with racism underlying, he’s entitled to shoot two more people, at least.
Arizona Bob (e8af2b) — 8/4/2010 @ 8:12 pmHow many white employers are going to be thinking about this row of dead bodys when they make hiring decisions.They have a responsibility to provide a safe work place.A black muslim might pose twice the risk.
dunce (c5cd86) — 8/4/2010 @ 8:44 pmWhat? he was Black? But the New York Times did not put his photo on the front page – it showed a minisiter and some people praying – his photo was way inside the paper, a tiny photo. Maybe if he was white the paper would’ve put him on the front page – what racists they are!
Californio (757c2c) — 8/4/2010 @ 8:46 pmReff
> I didn’t have a built in “reason” for my anger so I didn’t get to blame others.
Thus missing where I said that this was neither a justification or excuse.
Also anger is not evil. Anger is human. Acts are evil, not just feelings.
Saying the man had a just reason to be angry, is not the same as saying he was right to do what he did, or it excused it. I was crystal clear on my point.
Pst
> Aaron Worthing: Here is a far more likely explanation:
Well, to be blunt we will probably never know.
Jcloh
> Whenever I hear the term racist being used, I believe the other side.
> Anyway, given the overuse of the term racism, the name calling effect will diminish in effectiveness.
Well, that is all lamentable and unfortunate. I have been falsely called a racist, since after all I am a proud Tea Partier.
But racism absolutely does exist.
Sometimes when someone cries wolf there really is one. But I can’t blame you for feeling like its always a lie. That is the fault of the race baiters and thus once against the so-called leaders of the black community behave in a way that harms the little guys.
I don’t know what the truth is. But let’s not assume his claims to discrimination were wrong. And on the other than, let’s not let that be a defense or an excuse.
Like I said, if we want to tell the story about a person facing discrimination, there are plenty who do, who don’t murder people over it. so why not focus on them?
Aaron Worthing (A.W.) (f97997) — 8/4/2010 @ 10:04 pmI don’t mean to diminish or justify the perpetrator’s vile act, but observe that the accusations of racism seem to be aimed only at Democrats.
The article mentions a union and two people named Hollander: OpenSecrets.org shows that every Hollander in CT connected with Hartford Distributors gives only to Democrats (and the Nat’l Beer Wholesaler’s Assn).
Jim (991879) — 8/4/2010 @ 10:10 pmAW:
Well, given that he’s patently guilty of theft, many murders, and suicide, I’m not staking much on his credibility.
Kevin R.C. O'Brien (c97563) — 8/4/2010 @ 11:14 pmDeep down? Deep down?! It’s pretty front and center.
“I am writing this essay sitting beside an anonymous white male that I long to murder.” ‘Bell Hooks’ Killing Rage – Ending Racism . Holt 1996 page 8.
“God spoke to Colin Ferguson and said, ‘Catch the train, Colin, catch the train.” Khalid Abdul Muhammed.
“Can you kill
Can you piss on a blond head
Can you cut it off
Can you kill
A nigger can die
We ain’t got to prove we can die
We got to prove we can kill”
Nikki Giovanni, Cho Seung-Hui’s professor at VAtech.
(“I knew when it happened that that’s probably who it was,” Giovanni said, referring to her former pupil. “I would have been shocked if it wasn’t.” CNN)
“Racist White Woman
Ursus Maritimus (505fac) — 8/5/2010 @ 1:59 amI could kick
Your face, puncture
Both eyes.
You deserve this kind
Of violence.
No more vicious
Tongues, obscene
Lies.
Just a knife
Slitting your tight
Little heart.”
Haunani-Kay Trask
Well that didn’t look anything like the ‘live preview’ promised. Where did the formatting go?
Ursus Maritimus (505fac) — 8/5/2010 @ 2:00 amI once (well, more than once) worked with someone who was incompetent. Screwed up major projects regularly, occasionally came into work drunk, but otherwise was a “nice guy”.
He got fired over a mainly trumped-up charge of sexual harassment. He was out of line, but NO warning was given. He was fired with the sexula harassment suit as pretext.
Oh yeah, he was white.
Turns out if you want to get rid of someone, it’s relatively easy to do based on non-job skill/performance metrics.
Dr. K (0e9868) — 8/5/2010 @ 5:04 amA black guy uses two guns to chase down and shoot nine white people and the white people were the racists. This is the story being told by Thornton’s girlfriend and family. You think they’d be a little more ashamed of the killer they loved instead of insulting the dead.
Birdbath (8501d4) — 8/5/2010 @ 5:12 amI think there needs to be a serious conversation about race in the blue states.
headhunt23 (c35715) — 8/5/2010 @ 6:29 amWell then I guess killing your co-workers in cold blood is OK. Maybe that New Black Panther guy had an equally irrelevant and heretofore unmentioned excuse.
Duke (bfe493) — 8/5/2010 @ 7:31 amComment by headhunt23 — 8/5/2010 @ 6:29 am
Reminds you that some of the worst integration conflicts following Brown, and the CRA-64, were in Boston MA.
AD - RtR/OS! (f9156e) — 8/5/2010 @ 8:51 amAD – The people in Boston are a bunch of racists and I mean that in the nicest possible way.
daleyrocks (940075) — 8/5/2010 @ 2:50 pmWhat percentage are Irish?
Arizona Bob (f57a20) — 8/5/2010 @ 3:45 pmOf course what is seriously lacking (and what pmsnbc made no attempt to verify) is any documentation or proof that this cold-blood killer, I mean victim of racism, had ever filed a complaint about this alleged harassment or ever even told anybody about it. Maybe the families of some of the white folks should file a slander/defamation suit against the sister of the killer.
Marty Farty (cb1d38) — 8/5/2010 @ 5:23 pmWhy should a black man join the union, if the motherf******* union rep is just gonna stand there and agree with the white people that the tape shows you stole beer and that means you gotta go?
I have a white friend who plays basketball, that likes to say: I don’t hate black people… I just don’t like YOU
Racial grievances is such a lucrative business, that I doubt the other black employees haven’t gotten into it if there was actual overt and systemic racism going on.
You could depose the white guys… well, if they weren’t dead. Hopefully we can get a photo of a swastika draped casket passing one armed saluting hitler youth and put the whole thing to rest.
By the way… where’s Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton?
SteveG (f6fb69) — 8/5/2010 @ 6:51 pmWhich one wants to back a mass murderer first…?
This is a hard call for a race monger… 9 dead… not like it’s a slam dunk like a fake rape usually is…. or used to be.
BirdBath, there is an increasing trend in certain “communities” that when some one gets killed in the midst of a criminal spree, the family blame others. With great chutzpah.
SPQR (26be8b) — 8/5/2010 @ 6:57 pm“What percentage are Irish?”
Arizona Bob – Good chunk are Irish.
daleyrocks (940075) — 8/5/2010 @ 7:21 pmJust trying to make light of the charge that Bostonians are racists. Why are all the racits in Blue States?
Arizona Bob (e8af2b) — 8/6/2010 @ 7:25 amThe 911 call he made was pretty chilling.
JD (845aec) — 8/6/2010 @ 7:26 amSame fact pattern, but the shooter is white. You have 30 minutes, 300 words. Pencils up and…. begin.
Kevin Stafford (abdb87) — 8/7/2010 @ 3:09 pmI’ve been under the weather of late, and not seen much TV other than that I’ve forced myself to watch.
Am I the only person who has NOT seen a photograph of Omar Thornton on television? Or does it seem for the first time pictures of a spree/serial killer weren’t displayed ad nauseum? For instance, who doesn’t have the face of that krazy Korean dude from the Virginia Tech massacre ingrained in their minds?
L.N. Smithee (d6449e) — 8/8/2010 @ 12:13 amL.N. – Hope you’re feeling better. I have not gone looking for a picture of Omar. Are you perhaps suggesting he is somewhat less than photogenic?
daleyrocks (940075) — 8/8/2010 @ 6:05 amThat would be racist, L.N.
JD (d9926c) — 8/8/2010 @ 7:44 amHis blackness is an inconvenient fact for the media to avoid.
AD - RtR/OS! (89e55e) — 8/8/2010 @ 7:53 am