Patterico's Pontifications

6/29/2010

McCain vs. Johnson Redux, Plus Rev. Wright!

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:10 am



Charles Johnson attacks R.S. McCain for posting World Cup related Twitter messages calling Mexicans “beaners,” Brits “faggots,” and Germans “kraut swine.”

McCain tells readers here that Johnson

did not recognize the premise of the joke, i.e., to employ derogatory terms for various nationalities — French “frogs,” Irish “micks,” Italian “dagos,” etc. – whereas Johnson had in mind racial slurs, which terms I had of course avoided. At one point, I asked readers to suggest an epithet for Algerians, a situation where generic anti-Arab terms would not do.

Charles Johnson is simply too dull-witted to get the joke.

Johnson also complains that McCain’s SiteMeter name is s32porchmanque:

Well, isn’t that lovely. “Porch Monkey.” A disgusting Southern slur for black people. McCain obviously thought he was being clever.

In the post linked above, McCain’s sidekick Smitty (who apparently set up the SiteMeter) links his previous explanation of the term:

Commenter ‘Random’ inquires concerning the whole Porch Manqué schtick.

First, I’ll point you to Wikipedia, which discusses the term. . . .

By putting “porch” in front of “manqué”, we get a distinct handle. When first invited to be Vice Deputy Assistant Under-Secretary to the Spitoon Wrangler on this blog, I wanted to have a term to explain the relationship between Stacy and me. If I completely tubed a post, that was because I was an embarrassment; a failure.

The term “porch” allows all sorts of (hopefully comic) allusions to toiling away in abject squalor.

There is also the bit that the term veers quite close to a racial slur. Having served several years in the military, I’m about as un-racially biased as anyone. To the extent that every time I use it, I can play the Alinsky Rule #5 card and mock the ignorance of racism, it’s a good thing.

So there you have it.

P.S. I’ve been too busy to look up what Johnson and/or McCain have to say about the Rev. Wright’s latest:

During a five-day seminar Wright taught last week in Chicago, he was back at it, claiming that whites and Jews are controlling the flow of worldwide information and oppressing blacks in Israel and America.

“White folk done took this country,” Wright said. “You’re in their home, and they’re gonna let you know it.”

. . . .

“Not once in my conversations with him have I heard him talk about any ethnic group in derogatory terms, or treat whites with whom he interacted with anything but courtesy and respect,” Obama said.

Yet during this course — which was described as asking, “What is the response and public witness of persons of faith to ongoing developments in both countries?” — Wright made many statements about what he believes are the true aims of whites and Jews.

“You are not now, nor have you ever been, nor will you ever be a brother to white folk,” he said. “And if you do not realize that, you are in serious trouble.”

. . . .

He cited the writings of Bill Jones — author of the book “Is God a White Racist?” — as proof that white people cannot be trusted. “Bill said, ‘They just killed four of their own at Kent State. They’ll step on you like a cockroach and keep on movin’, cause you not a brother to them.’ ”

Wright referred to Italians as “Mamma Luigi” and “pizzeria.”

No word on who Rev. Wright rooted for during the World Cup. I have been unable to confirm rumors that, during the Ghana/USA game, he could be heard screaming: “God damn America!”

One post, two topics. Choose one or mix and match, as you like.

38 Responses to “McCain vs. Johnson Redux, Plus Rev. Wright!”

  1. Well, those columnists that were writing that competitions like the world cup bring out the racism and jingoism of the USA needed to be poked with a stick.

    The guys on Univision routinely make fun of other nationalities. People in the Zocalo for the Mexico/South Africa game dressed up in gorilla costumes.
    As I’ve said before, most Mexican’s could give a dang about anything PC… if you can’t take a clumsy joke, go away and cry. Most Mexican’s I knew loved the Frito Bandito ads and had to be taught that they should be offended. By the Chicano class. They are pretty thin skinned

    SteveG (9fb25f)

  2. mmm, who cares what CJ says?

    I don’t. Haven’t for a very long time.

    Aaron Worthing (e7d72e)

  3. It’s not easy to read CJ anymore, seeing how his huge hairball-spaghetti-code website crashes IE8 regularly. A monument to creeping featuritis, LGF is among the slowest loading websites on the internet.

    gp (72be5d)

  4. So the first thing that came to either Smitty’s or RSM’s mind when coming up with a user name was a clever way to mimic a racial slur. Huh.

    And then RSM uses slurs commonly accepted as racial, but notes their nation-based connotations as a way to toy with people who react to anything racial. He had nothing better to do than reveal his actual racism(you know, don’t want those damned black bank tellers in muh famuhlee) and provide a context to backtrack from it.

    I’m surprised he isn’t a politician.

    MadisonConservative (e980e0)

  5. ‘“Not once in my conversations with him have I heard him talk about any ethnic group in derogatory terms, or treat whites with whom he interacted with anything but courtesy and respect,” Obama said.’

    Oh, spare me. Robert Byrd joined the KKK because he didn’t care for black people. You joined Wright’s “church” because you don’t care for white people. You heard him talk smack about ethnic groups (and vilify America) about a zillion times, and you know it, and so does everyone else.

    At least be honest about it.

    Or, if you’re going to lie 24/7, try and come up with a few lies that are halfway plausible.

    Bad enough we have an America-hating racist for president. Having an American-hating racist who can’t even lie right is adding insult to injury.

    Dave Surls (e969a9)

  6. If that gets your panties in a bunch, you should check out this one blogger who calls himself Ace of Spades venomously cutting down the Scandinavians all the time.

    jcurtis (138cbe)

  7. I sort of half follow all the R. S. McCain kerfluffles, and I think he’s a potty mouth. Maybe not a racist, maybe is. That’s his business. But I don’t read him–his “jokes” are just so juvenile and crude. Ick.

    Patricia (160852)

  8. CJ has gone round the bend …

    Wouldn’t it be nice if when president Obowma introduces you as a judicial progressive, you would admit during the hearings?

    Honesty is the best policy.

    bill-tb (541ea9)

  9. bill,

    the entire strategy of modern liberalism is to try to fool a large part of the population into thinking you are what you are not. Really, the lack of respect for democracy itself in the modern democratic party is pretty stunning.

    Aaron Worthing (e7d72e)

  10. jcurtis,

    Ace does not use this kind of humor. I think the Scandi humor is a great example of how to make fun of racism without crossing the line, and Ace is so much more readable for his ability to be edgy yet decent.

    I’m not going to get my panties in a bunch over RSM or PW or LGF because some people set out specifically to bunch up other’s panties (yet another difference between Ace and the people who think they are just like Ace but aren’t).

    I’m still happy to have people of other races in my family, and I think the people whose panties are in a bunch are those who have a problem with my family and probably deserve worse than scorn.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  11. [Wright] cited the writings of Bill Jones — author of the book “Is God a White Racist?” — as proof that white people cannot be trusted. “Bill said, ‘They just killed four of their own at Kent State. They’ll step on you like a cockroach and keep on movin’, cause you not a brother to them.’ ”

    Nothing like citing a 40-year-old event as proof of contemporary mores and attitudes.

    Someone someday will be able to tell us whether Wright has become more cranky and insufferable as he has aged, or whether he was always this much of a horse’s ass.

    JVW (8aff2c)

  12. I doubt that the madisonconservative is from Madison or a conservative.

    JD (959071)

  13. Wasn’t there something in Clerks Dos about parquemanque?

    JD (959071)

  14. What kind of racism is acceptable?

    JEA (53fe4f)

  15. What kind of racism is acceptable?
    Comment by JEA — 6/29/2010 @ 12:47 pm

    NASCAR

    Stashiu3 (44da70)

  16. Is Italian a race? Irish? Algerian?

    Amen, stashiu. It is okay to be offensive towards the people the left hate.

    JD (959071)

  17. Wright ought to send in one of those DNA analysis kits. Most American ‘blacks’ are 40% European. Not far off from where I’m at, not that it matters how much ‘unnatural’ race mixing has occurred in my family.

    Wright is a very wealthy Chicago politician, who happens to politic in a church instead of an office building. He drives a porsche and lives within view of a gorgeous golf course. He pretends to speak for the ‘brothers’ who are kicked down by the evil whites. Of course, he has nothing in common with the afflicted beyond ‘race’, and knows personally that blacks can live a wonderful life in America.

    He’s simply accepted that this scam will keep him in the latest fancy cars and the nicest clothes. Jesus had a fit when he found lenders in the Temple, but what would he do if people were actually using his name to sell racial hatred?

    I will never see this, but I can imagine Wright and Byrd sharing a room together when they are finally paid for their labors.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  18. What kind of racism is acceptable?

    Comment by JEA — 6/29/2010 @ 12:47 pm

    It’s perfectly acceptable to accuse a black woman of being a filthy prostitute, an Uncle Tom, a race-traitor, an oreo. It’s also perfectly acceptable to proclaim that you have to look under women’s skirts to make sure they’re women.

    You just have to be a liberal and your victim has to be a conservative. Then it’s perfectly acceptable behavior.

    John Hitchcock (9e8ad9)

  19. I’ve lived in the “deep South” for my entire life. 54 years at last count. Lived thru the 60’s, Jim Crow, segregation, Jimmy Carter and race riots. I have heard too many racial slurs. NOT ONCE have I heard the term “porch monkey” uttered by a Southerner. I have read it in the MSM, but I remain unsure as to why it refers to blacks. Why either “porch” or “monkey” means black escapes me. “Grease monkey” is not racial. “Little monkey”, like “little scamp” is not racial, despite what the race whores claim. In the late seventies/early eighties I began hearing the term “yard apes”, meaning children: race not specified. However, I doubt this phrase is of Southern origin, given the great Yankee influx about that time. (Damn Yankee, if you prefer.)

    I am weary of the fools who declare “black ice”, “black hole”, “dark mood”, and “dark continent” racist. “Cotton” is not racist, “Dixie” is a snappy tune, and the Confederate Battle flag was not the flag of the plantations or the slave states (altho the Stars and Stripes was). I’ve better things to do than to notice you.

    I do not claim to know all racist epithets currently in use, but I do assert that the term “porch monkey” is not a Southern term, and I challenge the coward Johnson to prove otherwise.

    Chuck Roast (c1a1a3)

  20. CR…I think the Confederate National Flag was more correctly referred to as the “Stars & Bars”, to distinguish it from the “Stars & Stripes”.

    AD - RtR/OS! (f22b48)

  21. “Why either “porch” or “monkey” means black escapes me”

    It refers to welfare recipients, lazy jobless types, etc. Of course, the monkey aspect also refers to how a black person is less than a full white person.

    Why do racists refer to blacks as lazy? Probably partly a holdover from when they were used as equipment, and probably also a reaction to the great success of the democrat’s cynical welfare vote buying.

    You know, it really doesn’t matter that much. The N word is Latin for black and outside context is harmless. But we aren’t outside context. Words have meanings. Porch monkey means stereotypical lazy black person. It just does. You can’t rewrite that any more than you can rewrite what the number 2 means. Someone could insert some deniability over their use of any racial slur, but we’re grown adults and it’s obvious that’s a load of crap.

    People who think racial slurs are funny don’t bother me any more than a destructive rodent or an infection, but they are pathetic.

    I don’t know if ‘Porch Monkey’ is southern or not. I don’t think the south is more racist than the north, and I don’t think it really matters that much where the term came from. Johnson just threw that in there to get under people’s skin because that’s about all he’s good for at this point. At least RSM is a decent human being who has a life outside aggravating people like me. I laugh at South Park even though they basically use the exact same ‘shock racism’ I think this porch monkey crap was. I’m not here to be anyone’s judge, but I think there’s room for a distinction because of South Park’s use being actively made into a point.

    I don’t think it’s reasonable to compare “porch monkey” to “black hole”, though.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  22. Dustin – The was smitty spells manque, makes it a play on words. Manque being a term for failure or someone who has not achieved their goals. Our educated betters should know these things.

    daleyrocks (1d0d98)

  23. You don’t see the word used very often these days, but it was in movies in the 1940s and 1950s.

    daleyrocks (1d0d98)

  24. Just a few pearls to swine. Heh.

    daleyrocks (1d0d98)

  25. AD – RtR/OS! – Sir: The Confederate Battle Flag is not nor ever was referred to as “The Stars and Bars”. “The Stars and Bars” was the first official national flag of the Confederacy, a circle of stars on a field of blue with three stripes, two red and one white. This is not the “Battle Flag”, although many continue to confuse the names and purposes of the two. Therefore, I can state with certainty that the Battle Flag was not the flag of plantations or state capitals.

    I used these terms accurately and precisely. I will assume that your ignorance is due to Government Schools, and that you are not necessarily a moron. Please educate yourself before attempting to correct me in the future.

    Chuck Roast (c5ad5b)

  26. daleyrocks, the last thing I want to do is play NAACP style ‘that’s racist’ cop.

    I mainly was reacting to the idea that this is Ace’s style of humor too, or that Porch Monkey might not be offensive because it doesn’t logically have anything to do with blacks if you just look at the words.

    And I’m a bit of a hypocrite here, as I say I laugh at South Park, etc.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  27. Dustin – I’m just messing around. Ace’s is offensive unless you understand what he is doing and a lot of people may not appreciate the locker room atmosphere.

    daleyrocks (1d0d98)

  28. Wasn’t there a riff about this exact thing in Clerks 2 with wanda Sykes?

    JD (ffe6ea)

  29. Comment by Chuck Roast — 6/29/2010 @ 4:44 pm

    We are arguing the same point.
    Note that I never referenced the Confederate Battle Flag, I mentioned the Confederate National Flag.
    And, you can climb down off of that high-horse before it gets shot out from under you.

    AD - RtR/OS! (f22b48)

  30. According to this, a porch monkey has vodka and grapefruit schnapps

    http://www.drinksmixer.com/drink434.html

    SteveG (9fb25f)

  31. Rev. Hatey is the gift who keeps giving. Obama’s spiritual mentor and moral compass.

    daleyrocks (1d0d98)

  32. AD – RtR/OS! – Your first rather tiresome comment suggests that I don’t know the difference between the “Stars and Stripes” (the flag of slavery for decades) and the “Stars and Bars” (in use for months, at best). I meant it as I wrote it, and I stand by it.

    If this suggestion was not your intent, maybe you could look into writing classes at your local adult education center.

    Chuck Roast (d4d321)

  33. chuck, AD was clear in what he wrote precisely. Your hostility and insulting tone just make you look insecure about your standing.

    Who the hell cares about the so called battle flag anyway? It’s completely irrelevant and the mark of failure.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  34. Based on casual, generalized stereotypes, a bigoted leftwinger, such as Jeremiah Wright, is analogous to a rightwinger without common sense.

    Mark (411533)

  35. DRJ – Directorblue has a post up in the Greenroom linking Rev. Hatey, Obama and a cast of other lefties together through the Shorebank scandal in Chicago that the Dems refuse to investigate.

    daleyrocks (1d0d98)

  36. Chuck Roast overcooked
    hate spew in all directions
    need Southern Comfort?

    Colonel Haiku's Cold Texas Stand-In (b865a5)

  37. I see lots of criticism of Wright, and justly so. What I don’t see is any criticism of McCain.

    It’s the same story on the lib side: justify/defend/explain what your guy says and condemn what the other guy says, but never come out and condemn your guy.

    JEA (dff100)

  38. JEA, you need to get a new computer monitor because your current one seems to be skipping the criticisms of Mccain in this thread.

    Dustin (b54cdc)


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