Patterico's Pontifications

3/21/2010

“Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!”

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 9:57 pm

Comments (60)

60 Responses to ““Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!””

Hey! wasnt that the guy that said HCR was Obama’s Waterloo?
turns out he was right…..but sad for him ….Obama is Wellington, not Napoleon.
lawl.
wheeler's cat (f37346) — 3/21/2010 @ 10:40 pm
nishi – I didn’t hear any fat ladies singing.

Hey, doesn’t ObamaCare have a death panel waiting for your dad, or is he already gone?
daleyrocks (718861) — 3/21/2010 @ 10:46 pm
curiosity killed the cat….
redc1c4 (fb8750) — 3/21/2010 @ 10:48 pm
Heh.. about 1:40 in the speaker said “Both sides would do well to remember the dignity of the house” (or close to that). Notice there are quite a few laughs (at least it sounded like some laughter to me) in the background. At least some people seem to realize the whole thing has become a joke.
Miguelito (f443a7) — 3/21/2010 @ 11:00 pm
redc1c4 – wheeler’s cat/nishi is a griefer, imdw on crack, an infestation to be avoided.
daleyrocks (718861) — 3/21/2010 @ 11:11 pm
hence my post….. 😀
redc1c4 (fb8750) — 3/21/2010 @ 11:16 pm
Well, after Wellington gets done with us, St. Helena might seem like a great place to be (and I’m not talking about the Napa Valley).
AD - RtR/OS! (4c0b43) — 3/21/2010 @ 11:40 pm
Obamacare requires people to buy insurance. That’s the whole basis of the thing. That way, people will not be able to avoid insurance until they get sick or injured, and thus take advantage of the new ban on turning away people with pre-existing conditions.

So, the requirement to buy insurance is the main feature of Obamacare. And that will be the target of the constitutional challenge. It doesn’t seem like the Interstate Commerce Clause empowers Congress to make people buy stuff. And the power to tax is not the same as a general power to fine.

So, I think that a constitutional challenge might have legs. Of course, the courts would also be aware that Obamacare is unpopular, which helps too.

If Obamacare went down in Congress, then we would not have this wonderful opportunity to get an excellent Supreme Court decision on the books. So cheer up. 🙂
Andrew (480035) — 3/21/2010 @ 11:43 pm
What’s Next?

http://gahrie.blogspot.com/2010/03/whats-next.html
gahrie (9d1bb3) — 3/21/2010 @ 11:56 pm
And the primary demographic that has to pony up for this mandatory insurance is one which normally doesn’t buy insurance because they’re young, and usually in good health – and voted overwhelmingly for Obama in the ’08 election…
Change they’re going to believe in!
AD - RtR/OS! (4c0b43) — 3/21/2010 @ 11:56 pm
So, I think that a constitutional challenge might have legs. Of course, the courts would also be aware that Obamacare is unpopular, which helps too.

If Obamacare went down in Congress, then we would not have this wonderful opportunity to get an excellent Supreme Court decision on the books. So cheer up. 🙂

not to mention the fact that the First Moron recently shit on the SCOTUS….. smooth move Ex-lax.
redc1c4 (fb8750) — 3/22/2010 @ 12:19 am
Hey! wasnt that the guy that said HCR was Obama’s Waterloo? turns out he was right…..but sad for him ….Obama is Wellington, not Napoleon.
lawl.

Wheeler’s catbox: You hear how many threats, backroom deals, bribes, lies and misrepresentations it took to push this Edsel across the finish line? And that was just the sleazy deals between the party in power. Our great Orator had a hell of a time with what we all seem to know on the left and the right: Using statism and strong-arm tactics on a free republic may not have the sticking power you think. We’ll see.

It’s not often Firedog Lake and liberal newspapers are in agreement with conservatives, if for different reasons. But Obama didn’t win, he cheated. He employed fear tactics and threats on members of Congress.

But you know that, don’t you?
Vermont Neighbor (0e568c) — 3/22/2010 @ 12:59 am
@8

“Obamacare requires people to buy insurance.”

That’s what scares me. Yet, some (non english speaking) immigrant families who I know still think this new healthcare is “free healthcare” for everyone.

I heard that obamacare will decrease monthly insurance to as little as 2,000 dollars a month. I’m not sure some people can pay 2.000 dollar a YEAR for insurance in this economy. I sure as HELL can’t afford that.

Believe you me, if the immigrant community (Latino and Asian) has to buy insurance from now on, they ain’t gonna visit the doctor once or twice a year. Oh, ho ho ho, no.
lee (cae7a3) — 3/22/2010 @ 1:17 am
Yet take the mando part out, and we’re really gonna be broke. Broker than now even.
cassandra (ac2632) — 3/22/2010 @ 5:29 am
One thing is for sure, the tax on tanning salons won’t hit us all the same way.
imdw (88ff05) — 3/22/2010 @ 5:40 am
I’m already seeing the fallacies in the gloating comments of supporters. Catastrophic Care was repealed after Medicare beneficiaries attacked Dan Rostenkowski and chased him down the street. Congress critters who voted for this will need police protection until they are retired in November.

This bill does nothing to “bend the cost curve” unless you count bending it up. It is exactly the wrong approach.

There are rumors that the US bond rating will fall now. There are now several private corporations that are paying lower interest rates than US Treasuries. One of them is Warren Buffet’s Berkshire-Hathaway.

There is a trickle of speculation that Soros has funded this to short the dollar. His fortune was made by an attack on the British pound.

The first effect will be the “pre-existing condition” ban on insurance companies turning down applicants. I expect that, once the young and relatively irresponsible learn this, we will see them dropping existing insurance policies. Thus the insurance companies will have a double hit, people who are healthy dropping their policies and the sick signing up.

In the long run, I think the insurance companies are on board, though. There are two kinds of health insurance carriers. The non-profits, like Blue Cross and Blue Shield, sell individual policies and are the target of a lot of the anger. People rant about profits when they are mostly talking about non-profit companies.

The other kind is the for-profit. They have about 54% of the business but they are in another business altogether. They mostly (I think almost exclusively) insure employees of corporations. Those are the “Cadillac plans” negotiated by unions and protected in the bill. In those cases, the employer is actually paying the bills, not the insurance company. The insurance company is administering the plan but the employer pays the bills. Those companies have nothing to lose with Obamacare and they supported it.

Ironically, some of those union plans, like the Culinary Workers plan, are funded by the union from dues. Years ago, I met the union official who administered their plan and he was very knowledgeable. I wonder how those unions like this bill?

The non-profits are the ones getting screwed and they will want to get into Obamacare administration, too. Nobody wants to be in the insurance business in this climate but they will want to curry favor with the politicians because they will want a piece of the administration action.

Short term, I have seen a lot of interest in this legislation by younger doctors in rural areas. They will leave because there is a lot of Medicaid. Since there is a shortage, they will have little or no problem finding jobs in affluent communities. There is already a high percentage of foreign medical grads in rural areas. Even they will start looking around.

The guy who is running against Stupak is a general surgeon with 37 years of practice in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. He will be a very valuable addition to Congress. Stupak is toast.
Mike K (2cf494) — 3/22/2010 @ 5:45 am
To me there are only two issues about this bill which deserved attention

1) Decreasing medical expenses on a per capita basis and (Bend Cost Curve)
2) Seeking a method by which an individual saves/pays enough over a lifetime to cover what eventually is a major expense in older age (Lifetime Coverage)

This bill serves neither.

On the cost side, the “free” Medicaid will flood the system is patients who avoided care for cost reasons but now will consume vast amount of care. Cost = Volume (UP) * Price (K) …… more volume equals much more cost.

The reduction in Medicare Pricing which is used to justify will a) never happen or b) cause a catastrophic decrease in medical services for the most vulnerable in our society. The elderly actually need care as opposed to the Medicaid LEECHES who just had their votes acquired by the Democratic Party.

This “race to the rock bottom pricing” by making everything in the Public Side Medicaid will cause an implosion in Medical Services and technology sector. The only reason people train themselves or company’s invest in technology is because their are profits in the industry. Medicaid for 100MM plus people is the end of profitability for many and many will simply drop out and venture capital will retreat.

For years, the profits generated by our population was the engine for companies to justify R&D. For year, the profits the MDs made was an engine to do research and clinical trials. The ENTIRE WORLD benefited. This is now significantly impaired.

Less profits — less investment in people and technology.

On the health care finance side (coverage), this bill certainly does the job of providing it but at what cost to society built on the individual? The bigger the government, the smaller the person as Mark Levine says.

It is further perpetuating the slacker and entitlement mentality which has absolutely corrupted the US since the 1960s. It never happens overnight but the slippery slope is a very very very real argument. Social justice as free health care? Huh?

Now every single person knows that no matter how irresponsible they are in their “productive years” at least they get free health care to go along with housing subsidies and food subsidies. A larger and larger underclass will develop as the deceased Sen Moynihan from NY would attest.

What have we become as a nation but a bunch of obese, lazy individuals seeking a handout or some lottery ticket paid by others??? There is no doubt a handful of truly inspired citizens will continue to struggle for progress but when the other 90% of the population has no fear of failure and believes that their is “no real upside” to work … well you get what my parents fled in Europe and later in Cuba.

Our Congress, the POTUS and liberals have indulged themselves in how rich we are and how we can “take care or all the problems” by simply shifting responsibility to the most productive.

We are failing as a nation for this reason. We are draining the spiritual and monetary “bank accounts” in an orgasmic feel good which will leave us with nothing later. We are returning to that which our EUROPEAN ancestors fled — top down government which stiffles the populace.

I realise many liberals think this is the “right thing to do” and for that reason I believe most of them infantile. They really don’t think systematically, they don’t give a crap about consequences. It feels good and who care b/c tomorrow may not be!!!

Their are however a select few like POTUS are downright unethical, immoral and should be treated like coackaroaches. For they seek not the pleasure of the moment as my infantile liberal friend. What this core group seeks is slow, systematic enslavement of a “drugged” populace to the government. Like a White Southern telling the slave “you won’t survive out there so you better stay here.” While in some cases true, the reason for the advice is sheer greed for power …. and since they can’t do it in the free capitalist system so they use of Government to do so b/c that “so much more fairer and just.”

It is going to get a whole lots uglier.

I just hope COCKTAIL REPUBLICANS with all their garbage about being civil realize none of this was accomplished civilly by the Marxist crowd. So next time a more passionate conservative goes out there and does or says something — they understand what team they play for.

So that way, when Republicans are BACK IN POWER they to undo this mess by any means necessary. Because in the pursuit of achieving important things the ends do justify the means. They always did.
HeavenSent (a9126d) — 3/22/2010 @ 6:51 am
I am reminded watching this process of when they voted down the EU in france, and EU officials said that this didn’t change anything. You can vote no and it doesn’t stop them from doing what they did.

We voted not in virginia, and massachuesetts. apparenly they have not gotten the message yet, but we can defeat these idiots, and i think we will. most of this doesn’t go into effect for four years, which means we will be able to vote on 2/3 of the Senate, the presidency and the house of representatives. we can defeat those who voted for it, and replace them with people who will repeal it.

There have always been dark days in the fight for freedom. We have won battles with much longer odds against us in the past, and we can do it again.
A.W. (e7d72e) — 3/22/2010 @ 7:25 am
AW, interesting, this health care reform effort did lose in the 80s and 90s. In a sense, it’s been losing ever since the FDR spending depression.

They only have to win these things once, and then it’s hard (unprecedented) that they go away. If they lose 100 or 1000 times, it doesn’t matter so long as they win once. Bush’s legislative mistakes in 2007 and 2008 (joke), and the resulting problems, provided a temporary high watermark for the left, and they narrowly squeaked this past. But it only takes that 1 time. We’ll see much of the same thing on Amnesty, as the lost dem voters are replaced.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 3/22/2010 @ 7:32 am
It is not Obama’s Waterloo. It is Obama’s Borodino. He has now taken the capitol, and now sits in the Kremlin awaiting the surrender of the people.

Sometime in October he will realize that he has to get out before he gets frozen in by the winter that is coming. And on November 2nd the remnants of his army will be trapped trying to cross the Berezina River. . .
Mark L (1eb0e1) — 3/22/2010 @ 7:51 am
Here are 20 specifics the Libs are lying about:

1. You are young and don’t want health insurance? You are starting up a small business and need to minimize expenses, and one way to do that is to forego health insurance? Tough. You have to pay $750 annually for the “privilege.” (Section 1501)

2. You are young and healthy and want to pay for insurance that reflects that status? Tough. You’ll have to pay for premiums that cover not only you, but also the guy who smokes three packs a day, drink a gallon of whiskey and eats chicken fat off the floor. That’s because insurance companies will no longer be able to underwrite on the basis of a person’s health status. (Section 2701).

3. You would like to pay less in premiums by buying insurance with lifetime or annual limits on coverage? Tough. Health insurers will no longer be able to offer such policies, even if that is what customers prefer. (Section 2711).

4. Think you’d like a policy that is cheaper because it doesn’t cover preventive care or requires cost-sharing for such care? Tough. Health insurers will no longer be able to offer policies that do not cover preventive services or offer them with cost-sharing, even if that’s what the customer wants. (Section 2712).

5. You are an employer and you would like to offer coverage that doesn’t allow your employers’ slacker children to stay on the policy until age 26? Tough. (Section 2714).

6. You must buy a policy that covers ambulatory patient services, emergency services, hospitalization, maternity and newborn care, mental health and substance use disorder services, including behavioral health treatment; prescription drugs; rehabilitative and habilitative services and devices; laboratory services; preventive and wellness services; chronic disease management; and pediatric services, including oral and vision care.

You’re a single guy without children? Tough, your policy must cover pediatric services. You’re a woman who can’t have children? Tough, your policy must cover maternity services. You’re a teetotaler? Tough, your policy must cover substance abuse treatment. (Add your own violation of personal freedom here.) (Section 1302).

7. Do you want a plan with lots of cost-sharing and low premiums? Well, the best you can do is a “Bronze plan,” which has benefits that provide benefits that are actuarially equivalent to 60% of the full actuarial value of the benefits provided under the plan. Anything lower than that, tough. (Section 1302 (d) (1) (A))

8. You are an employer in the small-group insurance market and you’d like to offer policies with deductibles higher than $2,000 for individuals and $4,000 for families? Tough. (Section 1302 (c) (2) (A).

9. If you are a large employer (defined as at least 101 employees) and you do not want to provide health insurance to your employee, then you will pay a $750 fine per employee (It could be $2,000 to $3,000 under the reconciliation changes). Think you know how to better spend that money? Tough. (Section 1513).

10. You are an employer who offers health flexible spending arrangements and your employees want to deduct more than $2,500 from their salaries for it? Sorry, can’t do that. (Section 9005 (i)).

11. If you are a physician and you don’t want the government looking over your shoulder? Tough. The Secretary of Health and Human Services is authorized to use your claims data to issue you reports that measure the resources you use, provide information on the quality of care you provide, and compare the resources you use to those used by other physicians. Of course, this will all be just for informational purposes. It’s not like the government will ever use it to intervene in your practice and patients’ care. Of course not. (Section 3003 (i))

12. If you are a physician and you want to own your own hospital, you must be an owner and have a “Medicare provider agreement” by Feb. 1, 2010. (Dec. 31, 2010 in the reconciliation changes.) If you didn’t have those by then, you are out of luck. (Section 6001 (i) (1) (A))

13. If you are a physician owner and you want to expand your hospital? Well, you can’t (Section 6001 (i) (1) (B). Unless, it is located in a country where, over the last five years, population growth has been 150% of what it has been in the state (Section 6601 (i) (3) ( E)). And then you cannot increase your capacity by more than 200% (Section 6001 (i) (3) (C)).

14. You are a health insurer and you want to raise premiums to meet costs? Well, if that increase is deemed “unreasonable” by the Secretary of Health and Human Services it will be subject to review and can be denied. (Section 1003)

15. The government will extract a fee of $2.3 billion annually from the pharmaceutical industry. If you are a pharmaceutical company what you will pay depends on the ratio of the number of brand-name drugs you sell to the total number of brand-name drugs sold in the U.S. So, if you sell 10% of the brand-name drugs in the U.S., what you pay will be 10% multiplied by $2.3 billion, or $230,000,000. (Under reconciliation, it starts at $2.55 billion, jumps to $3 billion in 2012, then to $3.5 billion in 2017 and $4.2 billion in 2018, before settling at $2.8 billion in 2019 (Section 1404)). Think you, as a pharmaceutical executive, know how to better use that money, say for research and development? Tough. (Section 9008 (b)).

16. The government will extract a fee of $2 billion annually from medical device makers. If you are a medical device maker what you will pay depends on your share of medical device sales in the U.S. So, if you sell 10% of the medical devices in the U.S., what you pay will be 10% multiplied by $2 billion, or $200,000,000. Think you, as a medical device maker, know how to better use that money, say for R&D? Tough. (Section 9009 (b)).

The reconciliation package turns that into a 2.9% excise tax for medical device makers. Think you, as a medical device maker, know how to better use that money, say for research and development? Tough. (Section 1405).

17. The government will extract a fee of $6.7 billion annually from insurance companies. If you are an insurer, what you will pay depends on your share of net premiums plus 200% of your administrative costs. So, if your net premiums and administrative costs are equal to 10% of the total, you will pay 10% of $6.7 billion, or $670,000,000. In the reconciliation bill, the fee will start at $8 billion in 2014, $11.3 billion in 2015, $1.9 billion in 2017, and $14.3 billion in 2018 (Section 1406).Think you, as an insurance executive, know how to better spend that money? Tough.(Section 9010 (b) (1) (A and B).)

18. If an insurance company board or its stockholders think the CEO is worth more than $500,000 in deferred compensation? Tough.(Section 9014).

19. You will have to pay an additional 0.5% payroll tax on any dollar you make over $250,000 if you file a joint return and $200,000 if you file an individual return. What? You think you know how to spend the money you earned better than the government? Tough. (Section 9015).

That amount will rise to a 3.8% tax if reconciliation passes. It will also apply to investment income, estates, and trusts. You think you know how to spend the money you earned better than the government? Like you need to ask. (Section 1402).

20. If you go for cosmetic surgery, you will pay an additional 5% tax on the cost of the procedure. Think you know how to spend that money you earned better than the government? Tough. (Section 9017).

http://blogs.investors.com/capitalhill/index.php/home/35-politicsinvesting/1563-20-ways-obamacare-will-take-away-our-freedoms
PCD (1d8b6d) — 3/22/2010 @ 7:56 am
I wonder, Mike K, if Anthem didn’t raise their rates at this time on purpose to give a little push to passage of this bill. They will do well with all those new insureds.
Patricia (e1047e) — 3/22/2010 @ 8:07 am
There are so many horrible parts in this monstrosity to hate that one hardly knows where to start. Clearly, different Americans will have different negative visceral reactions to specific parts as soon as they are able to finally read the bill–depending on where they live, or how they live, or their age or their financial situation. That is a big reason why Obama’s had a tough sell over the last year and will continue to do so, no matter how many campaign appearances and fawning TV interviews he annoys us with.

But there is one universally huge loser in that bill that absolutely everybody will hate and which we MUST harp on day and night, at every venue and every opportunity. That is the hiring of 16,000 IRS agents to harass Americans into compliance. Honestly, have you ever met a Democrat or a Republican or a Libertarian who likes the IRS or trusts the IRS and wants them rooting around? Me neither. The Democrats simply will not be able to sugarcoat this.

I can already see hand painted signs at “repeal the bill rallies” throughout the summer sarcastically saying, Thank you President Obama for hiring more IRS agents!, or the like. That concept will probably work pretty well on Republican House and Senate TV ads throughout the country, too.
elissa (91236c) — 3/22/2010 @ 8:32 am
OK folks, time to roll up your sleeves and open your wallets. We have a lot of work to do between now and November so that we can prevent similar monstrosities from appearing as done deals. There is no such thing as a moderate Democrat.
FatBaldnSassy (9520fd) — 3/22/2010 @ 8:55 am
Bernstein points out more Democratic hypocrisy on the Bush admin drug coverage versus today’s talking points. Ie., dog bites man.
SPQR (26be8b) — 3/22/2010 @ 9:47 am
From Bloomberg news:

The bond market is saying that it’s safer to lend to Warren Buffett than Barack Obama.

Two-year notes sold by the billionaire’s Berkshire Hathaway Inc. in February yield 3.5 basis points less than Treasuries of similar maturity, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Procter & Gamble Co., Johnson & Johnson and Lowe’s Cos. debt also traded at lower yields in recent weeks, a situation former Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. chief fixed-income strategist Jack Malvey calls an “exceedingly rare” event in the history of the bond market.
SPQR (26be8b) — 3/22/2010 @ 11:21 am
[…] Patterico’s Pontifications: “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” and Will Illegals Have to Buy That Mandatory Health Insurance? Will They Be Fined If When They […]
Highlights of Health Care Debacle Debate: Brilliant Oratory from Paul Ryan & John Boehner (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 3/22/2010 @ 4:27 pm
[…] done yesterday. Ed Driscoll, Pajamas Media: Happy Dependence Day! Patterico’s Pontifications: “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” and Will Illegals Have to Buy That Mandatory Health Insurance? Will They Be Fined If When They […]
Pro-Life Judas: Bart Stupak’s Betrayal for a Few Pieces of Silver to Vote “Yes” on Abortion and ObamaCare… What Price Trust & Honor, Bart? (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 3/22/2010 @ 4:31 pm
[…] done yesterday. Ed Driscoll, Pajamas Media: Happy Dependence Day! Patterico’s Pontifications: “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” and Will Illegals Have to Buy That Mandatory Health Insurance? Will They Be Fined If When They […]
Pro-Life Judas: Bart Stupak’s Betrayal for a Few Pieces of Silver to Vote “Yes” on Abortion and ObamaCare… What Price Trust & Honor, Bart? (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 3/22/2010 @ 4:31 pm
[…] done yesterday. Ed Driscoll, Pajamas Media: Happy Dependence Day! Patterico’s Pontifications: “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” and Will Illegals Have to Buy That Mandatory Health Insurance? Will They Be Fined If When They […]
Ben Stein’s Take on ObamaCare, Democrats, & US Constitution: “Corned Beef Hash of Vague Promises” « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 3/23/2010 @ 8:21 am
i just thought id share.
Boehner and DeMint being ~~Rickrolled~~ Abbarolled on facebook.
hahahaha

owww, owww my sides hurt.
Do you know why we think you’re stupid?
You are stupid.
wheeler's cat (f37346) — 3/23/2010 @ 10:25 am
I just thought I would share: historically, nishi, you are fully and completely a whack job. I mean, look at your prior posts.

So your opinion on what constitutes “stupid” is more fueled by alcohol, drugs, or aberrant neurotransmitter levels than, well, incisive reasoning.

Go back to rehab, please.
Eric Blair (c8876d) — 3/23/2010 @ 10:50 am
“Do you know why we think you’re stupid?”

If I wanted to know why leftoids do what they do, I’d consult an entomologist.
Dave Surls (a55225) — 3/23/2010 @ 11:22 am
[…] Stupak a Sucker Ed Driscoll, Pajamas Media: Happy Dependence Day! Patterico’s Pontifications: “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” and Will Illegals Have to Buy That Mandatory Health Insurance? Will They Be Fined If When They […]
Backlash Thunder Rising: America Won’t Tolerate Democrat Politicians Who Betrayed Their Constituents by Voting for ObamaCare (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 3/23/2010 @ 1:11 pm
[…] Stupak a Sucker Ed Driscoll, Pajamas Media: Happy Dependence Day! Patterico’s Pontifications: “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” and Will Illegals Have to Buy That Mandatory Health Insurance? Will They Be Fined If When They […]
ObamaCare Now Law, POTUS Happily Signs Away Americans’ Freedoms (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 3/23/2010 @ 1:44 pm
[…] Patterico’s Pontifications: Signed, Sealed, and Flubbed and Obama Signs Health Care Bill and “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” and Will Illegals Have to Buy That Mandatory Health Insurance? Will They Be Fined If When They […]
Limbaugh & the New 85-15 Mandate: How ObamaCare Deliberately Kills the Health Insurance Industry… Insurance Agents, Polish up Those Résumés « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 3/24/2010 @ 7:56 am
[…] Patterico’s Pontifications: Signed, Sealed, and Flubbed and Obama Signs Health Care Bill and “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” and Will Illegals Have to Buy That Mandatory Health Insurance? Will They Be Fined If When They […]
Oops… ObamaCare Has Major Gaps Protecting Children, Dems Scrambling to Revise « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 3/24/2010 @ 8:20 am
[…] Patterico’s Pontifications: Signed, Sealed, and Flubbed and Obama Signs Health Care Bill and “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” Legal Insurrection: The Morning After the Morning After Gateway Pundit: NY Times Praises Marxist […]
Not Surprising… 3 Reasons ObamaCare Won’t Cut Deficit By One Thin Dime (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 3/24/2010 @ 8:40 am
[…] Admits He Allowed Obama to Fund Abortions With Taxpayer Money Patterico’s Pontifications: “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” and Will Illegals Have to Buy That Mandatory Health Insurance? Will They Be Fined If When They […]
Sucker Stupak: ObamaCare Sellout So Taxpayers Will Pay for Abortions & the Tiny Airports That Benefit from Stupak’s Lies (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 3/24/2010 @ 2:13 pm
[…] Admits He Allowed Obama to Fund Abortions With Taxpayer Money Patterico’s Pontifications: “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” and Will Illegals Have to Buy That Mandatory Health Insurance? Will They Be Fined If When They […]
Magnificent: “Big Black Lie” Author Kevin Jackson Smacks Down MSNBC’s David Shuster about Media’s Bogus Claims of Tea Party Racism & Violence (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 3/25/2010 @ 9:07 am
[…] Patterico’s Pontifications: Signed, Sealed, and Flubbed and Obama Signs Health Care Bill and “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” Legal Insurrection: The Morning After the Morning After Gateway Pundit: Stunner. Politico Changes […]
Sex & Drugs: As Written, Taxpayer-funded Viagra for Child Predators & Rapists Provided for in ObamaCare — Will Democrats Try to Allow It? « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 3/25/2010 @ 10:06 am
[…] Passes Reconciliation Bill and Signed, Sealed, and Flubbed and Obama Signs Health Care Bill and “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” The Hill: Healthcare bill headed back to the House after marathon Senate push Liberal Whoppers: […]
Shut Up, America, & Just Deal with It… Horrible ObamaCare Reconciliation Bill Passes 56-46, Plus Michigan Rep. Dingle’s “Control the People” Sound Bite (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 3/25/2010 @ 2:45 pm
[…] Passes Reconciliation Bill and Signed, Sealed, and Flubbed and Obama Signs Health Care Bill and “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” Greg Gutfeld, Big Hollywood: Daily Gut: Anger is a Right The Hill: Healthcare bill headed back to […]
Shut Up, America, & Just Deal with It… Horrible ObamaCare Reconciliation Bill Passes 56-46, Plus Michigan Rep. Dingle’s “Control the People” Sound Bite (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 3/26/2010 @ 6:27 pm
[…] Sign Patterico’s Pontifications: In Vino Veritas and Senate Passes Reconciliation Bill and “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” The Daily Caller: Clinton pollster says Dems on edge of bloodbath and When will the Democrats stand […]
SHOCKER: Obama Creates His Own Personal Army, Hidden Within ObamaCare Bill — No Wonder He Didn’t Want Congress or America to Read Bill Before Rushing Vote (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 3/31/2010 @ 6:02 pm
[…] Killing the American Economy and In Vino Veritas and Senate Passes Reconciliation Bill and “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” The Daily Caller: Clinton pollster says Dems on edge of bloodbath and When will the Democrats stand […]
Waxman the Tyrant Attacks CEOs Who Dare Say ObamaCare Will Cause Company Bankrupcty… Michelle Malkin & Sean Hannity Say It’s Time for a ‘Spartacus Revolution” (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 4/1/2010 @ 12:58 pm
[…] Killing the American Economy and In Vino Veritas and Senate Passes Reconciliation Bill and “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” The Plum Line: Gallup: Majority Says Dem Health Reform Tactics Were “Abuse Of Power” The Daily […]
Gutsy Videographer Takes on the Big Dems on Terrible ObamaCare: Jason Mattera vs. Sen. Al Franken vs. Rep. Steny Hoyer (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 4/1/2010 @ 2:35 pm
[…] Killing the American Economy and In Vino Veritas and Senate Passes Reconciliation Bill and “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” The Plum Line: Gallup: Majority Says Dem Health Reform Tactics Were “Abuse Of Power” The Daily […]
Gutsy Videographer Takes on the Big Dems on Terrible ObamaCare: Jason Mattera vs. Sen. Al Franken vs. Rep. Steny Hoyer (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 4/1/2010 @ 2:35 pm
[…] Killing the American Economy and In Vino Veritas and Senate Passes Reconciliation Bill and “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” The Plum Line: Gallup: Majority Says Dem Health Reform Tactics Were “Abuse Of Power” The Daily […]
Gutsy Videographer Takes on the Big Dems on Terrible ObamaCare: Jason Mattera vs. Sen. Al Franken vs. Rep. Steny Hoyer (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 4/1/2010 @ 2:35 pm
[…] Killing the American Economy and In Vino Veritas and Senate Passes Reconciliation Bill and “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” The Plum Line: Gallup: Majority Says Dem Health Reform Tactics Were “Abuse Of Power” The Daily […]
Gutsy Videographer Takes on the Big Dems on Terrible ObamaCare: Jason Mattera vs. Sen. Al Franken vs. Rep. Steny Hoyer (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 4/1/2010 @ 2:35 pm
[…] Killing the American Economy and In Vino Veritas and Senate Passes Reconciliation Bill and “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” The Plum Line: Gallup: Majority Says Dem Health Reform Tactics Were “Abuse Of Power” The Daily […]
“Kept All His Promises… Low-Emission Unicorns… Celestial Choirs Will Be Singing…” Democrats’ Rainbows and Unicorns — Gotcha, April Fools! (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 4/1/2010 @ 3:56 pm
[…] target=”_blank”>Killing the American Economy and “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” GayPatriot: Americans’ Negative View of Obama’s New Kind of (Chicago) Politics Thomas Del […]
Congress Suddenly, Literally Faced with Crappy ObamaCare: Unintentional Language in Bill May Force Congress Members to Give Up Their Own Platinum Packages & Be Part of the American Public « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 4/13/2010 @ 5:30 pm
[…] target=”_blank”>Killing the American Economy and “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” GayPatriot: Americans’ Negative View of Obama’s New Kind of (Chicago) Politics Thomas Del […]
Congress Suddenly, Literally Faced with Crappy ObamaCare: Unintentional Language in Bill May Force Congress Members to Give Up Their Own Platinum Packages & Be Part of the American Public « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 4/13/2010 @ 5:30 pm
[…] target=”_blank”>Killing the American Economy and “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” GayPatriot: Americans’ Negative View of Obama’s New Kind of (Chicago) Politics Thomas Del […]
Congress Suddenly, Literally Faced with Crappy ObamaCare: Unintentional Language in Bill May Force Congress Members to Give Up Their Own Platinum Packages & Be Part of the American Public « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 4/13/2010 @ 5:30 pm
[…] target=”_blank”>Killing the American Economy and “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” GayPatriot: Americans’ Negative View of Obama’s New Kind of (Chicago) Politics Thomas Del […]
Congress Suddenly, Literally Faced with Crappy ObamaCare: Unintentional Language in Bill May Force Congress Members to Give Up Their Own Platinum Packages & Be Part of the American Public « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 4/13/2010 @ 5:30 pm
[…] Pontifications: What’s in the Bill, Senator? and Killing the American Economy and “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” GayPatriot: Americans’ Negative View of Obama’s New Kind of (Chicago) Politics Thomas Del […]
Congress Suddenly, Literally Faced with Crappy ObamaCare: “Unintentional” Language in Bill May Force Congress Members to Give Up Their Own Platinum Packages & Be Part of the American Public « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 4/13/2010 @ 5:40 pm
[…] Pontifications: What’s in the Bill, Senator? and Killing the American Economy and “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” GayPatriot: Americans’ Negative View of Obama’s New Kind of (Chicago) Politics Thomas Del […]
Congress Suddenly, Literally Faced with Crappy ObamaCare: “Unintentional” Language in Bill May Force Congress Members to Give Up Their Own Platinum Packages & Be Part of the American Public « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 4/13/2010 @ 5:40 pm
[…] Pontifications: What’s in the Bill, Senator? and Killing the American Economy and “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” Mcnorman’s Weblog: Baffled by Health Plan? So Is Congress Sister Toldjah: Did Congressional […]
What Now? Obama Media & Team Obama Failed to Report Automatic Paycheck Deduction Hidden in ObamaCare Health Bill (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 4/18/2010 @ 3:26 pm
[…] Pontifications: What’s in the Bill, Senator? and Killing the American Economy and “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” Mcnorman’s Weblog: Baffled by Health Plan? So Is Congress Sister Toldjah: Did Congressional […]
What Now? Obama Media & Team Obama Failed to Report Automatic Paycheck Deduction Hidden in ObamaCare Health Bill (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 4/18/2010 @ 3:26 pm
[…] Pontifications: What’s in the Bill, Senator? and Killing the American Economy and “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” Mcnorman’s Weblog: Baffled by Health Plan? So Is Congress Sister Toldjah: Did Congressional […]
What Now? Obama Media & Team Obama Failed to Report Automatic Paycheck Deduction Hidden in ObamaCare Health Bill (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 4/18/2010 @ 3:26 pm
[…] Pontifications: What’s in the Bill, Senator? and Killing the American Economy and “Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!” Mcnorman’s Weblog: Baffled by Health Plan? So Is Congress Uppity Woman: Finding out what’s […]
Another Frightening, Cautionary Tale from UK on Government-run Health Care « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 4/19/2010 @ 9:13 am

3/21/2010

“Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!”

60 Responses to ““Have You Read the Bill? . . . Hell No You Haven’t!””

Favorite Sites

Links

Patterico Sells Out