Air America To File Bankruptcy (Updated)
[Guest post by DRJ]
Air America is no more:
“It is with the greatest regret, on behalf of our Board, that we must announce that Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations as of this afternoon, and that the Company will file soon under Chapter 7 of the Bankruptcy Code to carry out an orderly winding-down of the business.”
Unlike a Chapter 11 reorganization, a Chapter 7 bankruptcy is a liquidation proceeding. The goal of a business filing Chapter 7 is to liquidate (sell) its assets and cease doing business.
Air America blames the “perfect storm” of a difficult economic environment that has adversely affected advertising revenues, competition from new media, “crushing” debt, an inability to obtain new funding, and little sign of hope for the future.
— DRJ
UPDATE: Air America’s bankruptcy, Scott Brown’s win, Nancy Pelosi’s concession on health care –William A. Jacobson at Le-gal In-sur-rec-tion asks if this day can get any better. The Instapundit goes one better — signs of a Copenhagen collapse? Plus, from Mike Myers in the comments, today’s news also includes the Supreme Court’s McCain-Feingold decision.
But don’t get cocky, GOP. These are drops in a bucket.
Geez, I watched Keith Olberman’s head explode tonight, claiming that the Supreme Court’s decision on McCain Feingold was the worst thing since the Dred Scott decision. When will MSNBC declare Chapter 7? I can hardly wait.
Mike Myers (3c9845) — 1/21/2010 @ 7:16 pmI’ve updated the post with thoughts on today’s news from several internet sources.
DRJ (84a0c3) — 1/21/2010 @ 7:28 pmand Nancy says she’s going to push forward on health care via reconciliation…..
redc1c4 (fb8750) — 1/21/2010 @ 7:43 pmWatch for a renewed push for the Fairness Doctrine because crappy Lib Talk Radio can’t generate enough listeners to survive without government intervention or funding.
daleyrocks (718861) — 1/21/2010 @ 8:01 pmAir America’s bankruptcy, Scott Brown’s win, Nancy Pelosi’s concession on health care. . .the Supreme Court’s McCain-Feingold decision. . .
. . .and John Edwards admits the National Enquirer’s reporting was correct all along.
Official Internet Data Office (c93f96) — 1/21/2010 @ 8:03 pmI’ll repeat the comment I made to the LA Times blog about this (which hasn’t yet passed through their moderation): Did Air America run out of Boys and Girls Clubs to fleece out of money?
JVW (48cbba) — 1/21/2010 @ 8:15 pmCertainly this week’s events put paid to the nonsense we heard from Democrats about the country moving left-ward.
SPQR (26be8b) — 1/21/2010 @ 8:19 pmOn the contrary, SPQR. We should let Air America serve as an example for all: if you move left-ward, you will inevitably go bankrupt 🙂
Some chump (36dbd5) — 1/21/2010 @ 8:27 pmJVW, I was thinking exactly the same thing. They ran out of charities to steal from.
Mike K (2cf494) — 1/21/2010 @ 8:40 pmDrops in a bucket, indeed. But that’s the thing. I fought in the “big one”–the reconstruction after Carter: the greatest thing was the optimism across the country, and the military in particular. It’s like momentum in a football game. It begets more momentum.
Virtual Insanity (d93c26) — 1/21/2010 @ 8:53 pmThere’s more – John Edwards, 2007 Father of the Year, finally admitted he sired Rielle Hunter’s love child.
McClatchy Watch (878005) — 1/21/2010 @ 9:08 pmTheir business plan was so, so bad. It had no chance of success.
carlitos (ca01bc) — 1/21/2010 @ 9:29 pmQuote of the day from the bigjournalism.com Air America thread:
“The Global Warming meltdown, the “Ted Kennedy seat”, the Air America meltdown, the Anthony Kennedy decision…did somebody declare “Bitch-slap a Leftist Month” and forget to tell me?”
Heh.
Gina (c68b68) — 1/21/2010 @ 9:55 pmIts goin to rain bitter liberal tears
When did they think people would ever find the Dems heavy handed tactics amonst themselves much less the American people – even remotely palatable?
EricPWJohnson (83a5e3) — 1/21/2010 @ 10:00 pmFIREDOGLAKE agrees with Mr. Jacobson —says this is the worst week for Democrats since NOV 2004.
elissa (ec009c) — 1/21/2010 @ 10:04 pmDaleyrocks (#4) and I agree. Look out! Schumer, Pelosi and Boxer still want to control talk radio. It’s the “progressive” authoritarian imperative.
Benson (ed9f0d) — 1/21/2010 @ 10:15 pmBoxers dropping like a Coakley ad
EricPWJohnson (83a5e3) — 1/21/2010 @ 11:22 pmI think the best line is this:
“But don’t get cocky, GOP.”
And for Conservatives, keep an eye on the GOP too – they may make the sounds you want to hear, but do they really walk the walk?
Yesterday was a good day for America; but we have a very long way to get this country back in shape.
Corwin (ea9428) — 1/22/2010 @ 5:45 amLiberals don’t need a talk radio station. Their Air America is CBS, NBC, ABC, NY Times, etc.
Alta Bob (e8af2b) — 1/22/2010 @ 6:35 amAnd today marks an anniversary…
Sec. 3. Closure of Detention Facilities at Guantánamo. The detention facilities at Guantánamo for individuals covered by this order shall be closed as soon as practicable, and no later than 1 year from the date of this order. …
BARACK OBAMA
THE WHITE HOUSE,
GeneralMalaise (c840dd) — 1/22/2010 @ 7:14 amJanuary 22, 2009.
Re: closure of Guantanamo… I think Obama wants to be Viceroy of India, circa 1904 (“let it be done…”) – not President of the U.S. circa 2010.
Californio (528139) — 1/22/2010 @ 7:45 amand Nancy says she’s going to push forward on health care via reconciliation…..
Which was covered on a thread yesterday.
and John Edwards admits the National Enquirer’s reporting was correct all along.
Which was covered on a thread yesterday.
There’s more – John Edwards, 2007 Father of the Year, finally admitted he sired Rielle Hunter’s love child
No offense, but but this is old news, tired news, been there, done that.
Dmac (539341) — 1/22/2010 @ 8:32 amThe only way this week could get any better would be if the National Enquirer were nominated for the Pulitzer for its Edwards baby-saga reportage.
furious (b6aff2) — 1/22/2010 @ 9:35 amAnother left wing radio station bites the dust.
Jim S (dc5c60) — 1/22/2010 @ 10:17 amThis has always surprised me.
Why isn’t Air America successful? A lot of people didn’t like Bush. And a lot of people like Obama.
At least enough to support this program, right? DailyKOS is popular. Jon Stewart is too.
Why are all the most liberal networks having a hard time making ends meet? Cables, Newspapers, Magazines, and now this radio program, all can’t find enough consumers.
It’s easy for me to claim that liberals just don’t consume news as much as conservatives, but this isn’t my anecdotal experience with my friends. I faintly recall something about Air America talent or admin stealing money, but it’s not like Rush Limbaugh isn’t paid hugely well.
Why couldn’t liberals make a profit? A cheap radio station with a couple of people reading lefty news sites and talking about it? Sounds like a really good business model to me.
Somebody set me straight.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 1/22/2010 @ 10:23 am“This has always surprised me.
Why isn’t Air America successful? A lot of people didn’t like Bush. And a lot of people like Obama.”
I once tried listening to it and couldn’t stand it. There was one reason I liked air america: it showed that talk radio blowhard crap is bi-partisan. With Air America’s failure, we’re left with thinking blowhard crap is only a feature of the right wing. This is a conclusion i’m not comfortable with, but the consistent failure of liberal talk is inescapable.
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imdw (c8163e) — 1/22/2010 @ 10:36 amI really think Rush is funny. Not blowhard crap. He’s half comedian. People think that’s a clever way to demean him, but it’s just reality to me.
I agree with imdw that Air America was unpleasantly angry. Glenn Beck seems like the most calm and zen fella on the hill compared to the screaming insanity.
But surely they tried a few hosts that were funny and nice, right? It’s easy to have a laugh at Bush’s expense. Did Air America try the Rush Limbaugh “be nice and funny and easy to listen to” model? Perhaps the people running Air America were true believers that Rush wasn’t nice or funny, but really just anger racism and greed.
Makes me want to start a liberal radio show to fill this obvious niche.
Actually, I kinda wonder if NPR makes it impossible to compete for liberals on the radio. they are massively subsidized by the government, mainly in a round-a-bout launderish way via the local radio stations that buy their programs. It’s something I listen to all the time. Rush doesn’t really have to compete with that, but Air America does.
If this is what the problem was, that’s just plain hilarious.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 1/22/2010 @ 11:01 am“Did Air America try the Rush Limbaugh “be nice and funny and easy to listen to” model?”
Maybe they failed to be THIS nice and funny and easy listening:
http://www.adl.org/PresRele/ASUS_12/5695_12.htm
But it does make money!
imdw (b67c0f) — 1/22/2010 @ 11:08 amI rarely listen to Rush or Hannity, but occasionally listen to Beck (just love the theories). Liberal talk radio can’t make it because their message doesn’t work. You can’t continue to nanny everyone, tax everyone, create more and more programs and not have to pay the piper someday. They rarely discuss personal responsibility, self-reliance, faith. It’s all how somebody else has too much – it’s not fair.
Corwin (ea9428) — 1/22/2010 @ 11:11 amCherry picking, and of course, it’s kinda poor form to repeatedly misquote Rush. I almost think he’s behind all that now because it’s so predictable and makes him look like the center of the liberal attention universe.
The proof is in the pudding. People find Rush pleasant to listen to. Sure, he gets pissed once in a while, but usually it’s like listening to Santa Claus or your uncle.
I mean, you don’t really deny that, do you? I guess that answers the question. Air America did not understand the way to succeed in this field. They believed the Media Matters line and figured that pure rage is what got Rush so much support.
It’s probably why some people think it’s actually OK to compare Glenn Beck complaining and asking questions about his president to accusing him of raping and killing kids. These people probably are too weak to actually inflict an entire rush or Beck program on themselves, and never realized they were being conned by the left.
It’s all very funny, though, when Air America fails and it’s clear they could have been very successful if they had been *honest* about their competition.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 1/22/2010 @ 11:16 amLeft-wing Radio fails because they are not entertaining…just angry.
AD - RtR/OS! (f0e19b) — 1/22/2010 @ 11:23 amWhen I’m stuck in freeway traffic, I don’t need anything to raise my blood-pressure.
Rush makes people laugh.
The only laughs on NPR are inadvertant – a response to the inanity of their script.
“Cherry picking”
It was just the other day. But I do understand that Rush’s audience finds these to be things they like to hear and want to hear.
“The only laughs on NPR are inadvertant – a response to the inanity of their script.”
Do they have car talk in your local area?
imdw (c5488f) — 1/22/2010 @ 11:37 am“It was just the other day.”
OK, do you grant that many of these claims against Rush have been proven to be dishonest misquotes?
Just curious.
Indeed, if Rush’s massive audience is really delighted in racism, as you assert, that’s something to complain about. I don’t think this makes any sense. You are asserting it’s normal and understandable to enjoy race baiting and racism and anger.
I am pretty sure that’s coming from something in your head you should carefully reconsider about what is understandable or funny and what isn’t. You have a problem if you think your projection onto conservatives is realistic or understandable.
Believe me, if Rush really said something racist, he would lose it all instantly. The right purges its Pat Buchanan and Ron Pauls. Many of us are proud of the GOP, the party that suffered thousands of lynchings from the democrat KKK. We are proud of Martin Luther King, Abe Lincoln, and Rush Limbaugh, people who prefer every man be judged with no consideration of his race, no preference for his race, no assumptions at all.
we also don’t think raping little kids is a punchline, though. You probably think I’m your enemy but I’m not. I hope you reconsider the republican party if you really want to oppose racism, imdw, and donate some money to Sarah Palin and TEA party efforts. Together, we can make a difference for a USA that doesn’t prefer people of one race over another.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 1/22/2010 @ 11:52 amComment by imdw — 1/22/2010 @ 11:37 am
No, they have “All Things Considered“, which is a blatent lie before they even say a word.
AD - RtR/OS! (f0e19b) — 1/22/2010 @ 11:55 am“Indeed, if Rush’s massive audience is really delighted in racism, as you assert, that’s something to complain about. I don’t think this makes any sense. You are asserting it’s normal and understandable to enjoy race baiting and racism and anger.”
Could it be that Rush’s audience enjoys quotes such as the one the ADL highlighted?
“No, they have “All Things Considered“, which is a blatent lie before they even say a word.”
Yeah I’ve heard the complaints: “all things censored.” Do they have “marketplace”? And seriously it is too bad you cant get car talk. Call your NPR station and ask for it.
imdw (05d41e) — 1/22/2010 @ 12:18 pmCould it be that Rush’s audience generally enjoys racism? Absolutely not, proven time and time again, when they ostracize kooks on the right.
I didn’t read the quote because it’s tiresome to constantly pay attention to this kind of Rush attack. With all this attention on him, you guys never find anything because there’s nothing to find.
I asked you a direct question. Would you answer it? “OK, do you grant that many of these claims against Rush have been proven to be dishonest misquotes?
Just curious.”
If you don’t grant that, then obviously there’s a reason. If you do, then distinguish the bad from the good quotes so I don’t have to. You’re the one making the serious charges here.
do you understand what I’m saying? This man has been repeatedly exonerated for this specific charge by your general group of malcontents. It’s a damn ugly charge that has actually caused him some damage in his goal of being part of the NFL (I don’t cry any tears for that lucky bastard). You coming here to conclude the case closed isn’t fair or reasonable. It’s actually totally insane.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 1/22/2010 @ 12:40 pmAll of the inane left – of – Mao NPR programs to list, yet imadoofus names one that actually isn’t. Pure genius.
Dmac (539341) — 1/22/2010 @ 12:55 pm“I didn’t read the quote”
Oh.
“If you don’t grant that, then obviously there’s a reason.”
Which claims? Others by ADL? I haven’t seen them. This one doesn’t appear to be a misquote. But then, you wouldn’t know.
imdw (017d51) — 1/22/2010 @ 12:59 pmimdw, I try to answer questions you ask, but you never answer direct questions. Why don’t you do that?
Answer my question.
I explained why I can’t read every single Rush quote (and it’s not germane to Air America anyway). Show me that you know the other rush misquotes were lies, and distinguish them from this before I bother myself with it. That you don’t understand why you need to do that is insane.
Another question you asked me was if you are Isaac Hall. Obviously I answered that I don’t know or care, but you never answered your own question. I noticed that Isaac showed up this morning about the time you usually do, used your style of diction, and that you share his sense of humor (which is extremely unusual). Isaac said he googled his name and found the thread, which my googling his name at that point proved was untruthful (and you were unable to spell his name correctly in that thread, even though you spelled it right in others, so until he came into it, it wouldn’t show up in google under his name).
anyway, even knowing all that, the odds are sharply against you being this person, even though you bizarrely defended yourself against this charge that wasn’t made. But then, the odds were against Greenwald’s sockpuppet behavior too.
Are you this person who fantasized about raping children and killing them… something you also did? Actually, you don’t have to answer your own question. Isaac values his anonymity, and I respect that, even though the court laughed at his begging for anonymity in a lawsuit. That dude is obviously living a shitty life and obsesses with screwing around with conservatives by asking unanswerable questions while refusing to analyze criticisms fairly.
you do the same thing, repeatedly. Like in this thread, you see people asking earnest questions about why liberals have a hard time succeeding in this field, only to demand everyone prove Rush isn’t racist again. The mental process that would justify that has to be a lot like hate… a lot like the very hate you pretend Rush exhibits. I look at Isaac and realize he’s not got a lot going on for him, and it gets really hard to be angry at his perverted and partisan brownshirting.
I an totally sincere when I hope you don’t share that lifestyle, but either way, I think a better way forward is to be more direct. Not just in your private affairs, problems and hopes, but in your discussion.
So answer my direct question about Rush and prior misquotes. If you want to talk about Air America, let’s talk about what a successful private liberal radio station would look like, and why this one wasn’t that.
I’m not your enemy. The right isn’t delighted with antisemitism on rush’s program, real or imagined. Ron Paul and Pat Buchanan are losers that the right dislikes more than they dislike most democrats.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 1/22/2010 @ 1:26 pm“imdw, I try to answer questions you ask, but you never answer direct questions.”
The problem is you’re asking me about “these claims,” but you won’t tell me what “these claims” are. That’s not a direct question.
Here. I’ll give a direct example. I don’t think this one quote that I linked to, that you have not read, is a misquote. Tell me another “misquote” and I’ll tell you what I think about it.
imdw (017d51) — 1/22/2010 @ 1:51 pmYeah, I didn’t think you’d answer my questions. It wasn’t a tough question, but you would probably see it as some kind of defeat if you directly faced the discussion. It isn’t. Are you aware that Rush “racism” quotes are frequently found to be misquotes, lies, distortions or even outright fabrications? (granted, we know you are aware, but you should admit it). Do you understand why this would keep anyone from taking a claim from you on this point seriously… why it’s not proven even if we don’t address it? That you need some proof?
No problem, imdw. I really feel terrible for Isaac and wish I hadn’t bothered to check him out. He’s had such a terrible experience. I can see his unhealthy and unhappy and unattractive mess sitting around trying to find someone to blame, and so he starts a bunch of websites, spending lots of time and talent, to attack Glenn Beck. That made him feel a little better for a while.
I used to read Democraticunderground. Not for schadenfreude, but to see contrary opinions. It wasn’t long before I realized that most of the people deeply enraged were really sympathetic creatures who were self destructive.
You, more than the other liberals on here, try to play this psuedo clever nonsense game. You ask some bizarre question that holds an attack. This latest one being that Rush’s audience finds Jew hatred delightful, and Rush finds it profitable. As soon as it’s addressed, or someone asks you a tough question, you drop it and slip to another one.
This isn’t meant to discuss. You want to oppose, even on ridiculous grounds, even to the point of laughing about a fantasy child being raped by Beck. Whether you’re a student or a fast food employee or an adult unemployed at all, you have some basic fundamental problem that has led you to totally misunderstand Rush Limbaugh, and probably Air America.
This basic misunderstanding is that you think conservatives are evil, selfish, hateful. That they have made the world too unfair for you to have the life you want. Hopefully it’s not as horrible in your case as it is with Isaac. Looking at him on facebook or elsewhere makes me sick to my stomach. Yeah, what he did to Beck was grotesque and cruel, but this person is obviously suffering. You’re suffering too.
Hating Rush, like Air America did, is going to get you exactly where it got Air America.
Why don’t you take a second and realize that my questions have a point: that we’re all on the same team ultimately?
And that doesn’t just go for you. That goes for all the extremely angry and bitter people still blaming conservatives for everything in their life they don’t like. We aren’t even in power anymore, and it’s outrageous to y’all that we won a free speech case.
I’m wasting so much time attempting to engage you because I suspect someone needs to let you know that you won’t get more than a short term relief by hating.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 1/22/2010 @ 2:05 pm“Are you aware that Rush “racism” quotes are frequently found to be misquotes, lies, distortions or even outright fabrications? (granted, we know you are aware, but you should admit it)”
Tell me one, and I’ll be aware of it. I’ll even *gasp* read what is at your link.
imdw (795ee1) — 1/22/2010 @ 2:40 pmLet’s pin this down first. You are not aware of any examples of Rush being accused of racism or quoted incorrectly, even though you follow conservative blogs. If I were to show you an example, that would be the very first one you are aware of.
Yes?
Dustin (b54cdc) — 1/22/2010 @ 3:18 pmIn other words, you didn’t answer my simple question, even though your answer appears to stunningly be “no” you are not aware of Rush quotes being fabricated or screwed around with.
It’s like a conservative saying he’s never heard of anyone making dubious claims about Obama’s birth certificate when a lib refuses to deal with a new charge because he’s tired of repeatedly debunking them.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 1/22/2010 @ 3:27 pm“You are not aware of any examples of Rush being accused of racism or quoted incorrectly, even though you follow conservative blogs. If I were to show you an example, that would be the very first one you are aware of.”
I don’t remember specific ones. But I do remember it happening. I could google some. But much easier would be for you to tell me one you have in mind. That way your question is direct rather general, and I don’t have to address it with a generalization.
“It’s like a conservative saying he’s never heard of anyone making dubious claims about Obama’s birth certificate when a lib refuses to deal with a new charge because he’s tired of repeatedly debunking them.”
But I didn’t say I had never heard of them. I just asked which ones you were talking about. Can you tell me one and then I’ll tell you whether i think it is a misquote? I just did that for one.
imdw (f7b257) — 1/22/2010 @ 3:38 pmI heard Rush speaking, and he was talking about bigots and their stereotypes, and how Obama was chummy with bigots who harbored those attitudes toward Jews. If you read the complete remarks, this is clear.
Norman Podhoretz, whose new book Limbaugh was discussing, said this:
In my new book, “Why Are Jews Liberals?”, I argue that it no longer makes any sense for so many of my fellow Jews to go on aligning themselves with the forces of the Left. I also try to show that our interests and our ideals, both as Americans and as Jews, have come in recent decades to be better served by the forces of the Right. In the course of describing and agreeing with the book the other day, Rush Limbaugh cited a few of the numerous reasons for the widespread puzzlement over the persistence of liberalism within the American Jewish community. And while discussing those reasons, he pointed to the undeniable fact that for “a lot of people”–prejudiced people, as he called them twice–the words “banker” and “Wall Street” are code words for “Jewish.” Was it possible, he wondered, that Obama’s attacks on bankers and Wall Street were triggering a certain amount of buyer’s remorse within the American Jewish community, which gave him 78% of its vote? Finally, taking off from my observation that many Jewish liberals like to call themselves independents, he wondered whether a fair number of the self-described independents who deserted Obama and voted for Scott Brown might actually have been Jewish liberals. If so, he concluded, Brown’s “victory could be even more indicative of an even bigger change in the political temper of the country than has so far been recognized.”
For this, Rush Limbaugh has been subjected to a vile attack by Abraham Foxman, the national director of the Anti-Defamation League. Of course, Mr. Foxman has a long history of seeing an anti-Semite under every conservative bed while blinding himself to the blatant fact that anti-Semitism has largely been banished from the Right in the past forty years, and that it has found a hospitable new home on the Left, especially where Israel is concerned. This makes Foxman a perfect embodiment of the phenomenon I analyze in “Why Are Jews Liberals?” Now Foxman has the chutzpah to denounce Rush Limbaugh as an anti-Semite and to demand an apology from him to boot. Well, if an apology is owed here, it is the national director of the Anti-Defamation League who should apologize for the defamatory accusation of anti-Semitism that he himself has hurled against so loyal a friend of Israel as Rush Limbaugh.
Not that facts matter to imdw, of course.
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (9eb641) — 1/22/2010 @ 3:55 pmWhile I joke about imdw actually being that pervert Isaac jones hall or whatever his name was, he acts like a parody of a liberal, asking questions that contain flaws that are so easy to identify it’s like he planned them to self discredit his views.
He never answers any direct questions, which is almost as though he doesn’t want to bother making the liberal’s argument because his heart isn’t in it. Or he’s simply insecure about his awareness of current events (which his hilarious view of Rush suggests).
I don’t know if he’s really liberal and just comically bad at what he does, or a conservative who wants to parody what an idiot would say.
It’s like going to huffpo and repeatedly asking why Obama swore his oath on a Koran given to him by Osama. Or why LBJ was seen on the grassy knoll. It’s so unlikely to persuade and not embarrass IMDW that it’s either very poor self awareness or deliberate.
Either way, I repeat my notion of feeling sympathy for Isaac and those who are actually like him. I have to admit I find imdw to be pretty amusing in his own way (and this isn’t snark… it is pretty funny if you think about it).
It takes dozens of posts over the course of several hours to get him to even admit he won’t answer a question. It’s kinda cute.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 1/22/2010 @ 4:06 pm” And while discussing those reasons, he pointed to the undeniable fact that for “a lot of people”–prejudiced people, as he called them twice–the words “banker” and “Wall Street” are code words for “Jewish.””
This is true. Also add in ACLU, etc….But then that means that only prejudiced people think that an attack on bankers is an attack on jews. Which makes this part odd:
“Was it possible, he wondered, that Obama’s attacks on bankers and Wall Street were triggering a certain amount of buyer’s remorse within the American Jewish community, which gave him 78% of its vote?”
However, hearing gentile conservatives talk about jews being liberal is one of my favorites. So if anyone wants to indulge, please go right on ahead.
Dustin, this aint that hard. You asked a general question so my general answer is that I don’t know. Now give me one time you think he was misquoted and I’ll tell you what I think.
imdw (de7003) — 1/22/2010 @ 4:19 pmBut then that means that only prejudiced people think that an attack on bankers is an attack on jews.
No, it means that when a president pals around with anti-Semites, it’s reasonable for Jews to wonder if an attack on bankers is code for attacking Jews.
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (9eb641) — 1/22/2010 @ 4:30 pmIamadickwad is truly remarkable.
JD (167add) — 1/22/2010 @ 4:34 pmDustin, this aint that hard. You asked a general question so my general answer is that I don’t know. Now give me one time you think he was misquoted and I’ll tell you what I think.
Comment by imdw
Um, seriously, you’re totally right. It would be really easy for me to point out some Rush quotes that anyone would have to admit are unfair to Rush.
I’m surprised no one did that, and I’m glad they didn’t. If they did, you would ignore it and ask about something else. You’ve been proven dead wrong so many, many times, and usually about stuff that isn’t very hard to prove.
Anyway, I will prove that Rush has been misqouted. All you have to do is tell me if you are aware of him ever being misquoted or not. it’s a yes or no question, I’ve asked it several times, and “can you show me an example” is not an answer. “No, I have never seen that Rush was misquoted” or “yes, I have seen some Rush misquotes” are the two answers that would satisfy my question.
Of course, if you’re aware that Rush has been misquoted in the past, you have to admit that there’s no reason to take your accusations seriously without really good evidence and an explanation for why this is better evidence than the past distortions. If you are not aware that Rush has been misquoted, then you are amazingly ignorant of major news events that you bring up. So ignorant that there’s no reason to take your accusations seriously.
Like you say, what you ask of me isn’t difficult. But anyone reading this or several other threads sees that people answer almost every question you ask, hard or easy, while you never answer direct and simple questions. Show some good faith. Put me to the test. I’ll back up my claim that rush has been misquoted whether you are aware of it or not, and all I ask is that you tell me which it is.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 1/22/2010 @ 4:39 pmDustin, like the line from “The Terminator”: “…that’s what it does. That’s all it does!”
Call him The Trollinator?
Eric Blair (c8876d) — 1/22/2010 @ 4:42 pmIamadickwas is the personification of mendoucheous.
JD (167add) — 1/22/2010 @ 4:43 pmEric Blair,
All people have a role to play in society. Some, like our host, help put criminals in prison so they can’t hurt other people. Others educate the young so they can make their own contribution. Still others are medical professionals who heal the sick. And some are soldiers who defend free society against those who would destroy it.
It just happens that DCSCA’s and imdw’s role in society is to criticize people and institutions that, unlike them, actually benefit civilization.
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (9eb641) — 1/22/2010 @ 4:59 pm“All you have to do is tell me if you are aware of him ever being misquoted or not.”
Sure. I just googled “rush misquoted” and it appears that he has been. Apparently it is a misquote to say he wants obama to fail or something.
“Of course, if you’re aware that Rush has been misquoted in the past, you have to admit that there’s no reason to take your accusations seriously without really good evidence and an explanation for why this is better evidence than the past distortions”
My accusations? I linked to the ADL. That’s it.
imdw (c7d076) — 1/23/2010 @ 6:10 amYou linked to something that aggressively misquoted him, imdw, as was pointed out to you above.
JD (25aa49) — 1/23/2010 @ 6:18 amSpeaking of trolls, that was a lot of heavy lifting there, imdw. I love how you insist that you are not wrong about an issue, and when you proved to be wrong, you shrug and say it wasn’t important—even though you are the one who made the absolute statement.
Really, really lazy on your part. But what else is new?
Here is your usual:
1. Make extreme statements
2. Try to trick other people to scurry around the internet to “prove you wrong,” while you squat on your haunches and gibber.
3. Change the subject and claim it was no big deal.
4. Rinse and repeat.
Oh, and I would add that you continue to be reflexively partisan, taking the Left side whenever possible (or using the so-sophisticated “both sides do it” equivalence strategy).
This is all “Speak Troof to Powder” to you, and you fool no one. Over and over again, your dishonesty and partisanship have been made clear.
You have been doing this for years, here on this blog.
So give it a rest, or pick another sock puppet name for a while.
You are tiresome.
Eric Blair (20b3a8) — 1/23/2010 @ 6:24 amAir America? Never heard of it. 😀
Vivian Louise (643333) — 1/23/2010 @ 6:27 amCapitalism, supply and demand…. it is a wonderful thing to watch.
voiceofreason2 (46b4cd) — 1/23/2010 @ 6:30 am“You linked to something that aggressively misquoted him, imdw, as was pointed out to you above.”
What’s the misquote? Did they forget to add the part where Rush said people who make the same leap he does are prejudiced? Or did they just point out that he should quit promoting these stereotypes about Jews and money?
I disagree with ADL. I don’t think Rush should shut up about Jews and telling us a lot the “money people” on “wall street” are Jewish, and their liberalism. As I said before, I find conservative gentiles speaking about the liberalism of jews as “one of my favorites.”
“Oh, and I would add that you continue to be reflexively partisan, taking the Left side whenever possible (or using the so-sophisticated “both sides do it” equivalence strategy).”
What’s the “left side” on whether a radio audience finds the words of Rush limbaugh about jews and bankers to be pleasant, nice and funny?
imdw (de7003) — 1/23/2010 @ 6:42 amYou know, imdw, I know you would just prove my points, again. Thanks. You are either dim, drunk, or sloppy.
Eric Blair (20b3a8) — 1/23/2010 @ 6:44 amBut that never happens with the right-wingers on this site! They are always correct. Keep up the good fight, imdw.
Intelliology (00d844) — 1/23/2010 @ 6:51 amFoxman and the ADL have been furiously criticized by other Jewish organizations and spokesmen for that attack on Rush. For example. It’s interesting that our resident troll should choose that example.
Mike K (2cf494) — 1/23/2010 @ 6:56 am“Foxman and the ADL have been furiously criticized by other Jewish organizations and spokesmen for that attack on Rush”
Does it matter that the criticism comes from other Jewish organizations?
But your link only has Norman Podhoretz and commentary magazine. Do you mean that he is a Jewish spokesman or that Commentary is a Jewish organization?
imdw (f7b257) — 1/23/2010 @ 7:24 amYou know, imdw, when you not only prove my point, but then your friend “Intelliology” does the same…and there is also an article on this blog about Leftie astroturfing…well, it is to laugh.
Eric Blair (20b3a8) — 1/23/2010 @ 7:31 amIgnoranusiology sure showed you, Eric. 😉
JD (855966) — 1/23/2010 @ 7:32 amWell, he showed something, JD.
Eric Blair (20b3a8) — 1/23/2010 @ 7:33 amAnd the funniest part, JD, is how the Left keeps insisting that they are so much smarter than the Right.
Eric Blair (20b3a8) — 1/23/2010 @ 7:36 amYes it must be a soros funded jewish money conspiracy to take down limbaugh.
imdw (c5488f) — 1/23/2010 @ 7:37 amAnd there goes the cap key thing.
As I say, tiresome.
Eric Blair (20b3a8) — 1/23/2010 @ 7:45 am