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12/7/2009

Harry Reid Speaks (Updated)

Filed under: Health Care,Politics — DRJ @ 7:59 pm



[Guest post by DRJ]

Apparently Democratic Speaker of the House Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid thinks he can say whatever he wants about Republicans and there won’t be any consequences:

“Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid took his GOP-blasting rhetoric to a new level Monday, comparing Republicans who oppose health care reform to lawmakers who clung to the institution of slavery more than a century ago.”

The 2010 Nevada Senate poll already shows he’s the underdog. I doubt calling out your opponents with this kind of rhetoric will help.

— DRJ

UPDATE: Eric Blair reminds us of this current Democratic Senator‘s role in the Civil Rights Act:

“I see that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid took a swipe at Republicans this morning, comparing them to those who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 for filibustering health reform legislation. It’s worth remembering that the longest filibuster of the 1964 act was conducted by a still-sitting senator, Robert C. Byrd, who personally spoke against the legislation for 14 hours and 13 minutes on June 9 & 10, 1964.”

92 Responses to “Harry Reid Speaks (Updated)”

  1. …Speaker of the House Harry Reid..

    Say WHAT?

    Socratease (90655c)

  2. He’s not known as “The Dim-bulb of Searchlight” for nothing!

    AD - RtR/OS! (e77d9d)

  3. Socratease,

    It’s obviously been a long day for me. Thanks for catching that so quickly!

    DRJ (dee47d)

  4. Actually, I think it is more interesting who personally filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964 for about fourteen hours.

    Reid is a pithed frog.

    Eric Blair (91356a)

  5. Good point, Eric. Thanks and I’ve updated the post.

    DRJ (dee47d)

  6. Keep in mind that Byrd was an officer in the KKK. He used the “N” word on national television.

    And he is third in line for the Presidency.

    Sure, Byrd has said he is sorry for things he has said and done in the past.

    But Reid is dumb. All that will happen is that this kind of selective amnesia will cause even more people to look at Democratic leadership and say: “What the &^&% are you doing?”

    Wow.

    Eric Blair (91356a)

  7. Evil-mongers was pretty bad, but now he is going full frontal moonbat on everyone that does not agree with his dirty little socialisms.

    JD (c28a9e)

  8. Reid knows he’s toast in Nevada.

    Everything he is doing now is to appeal to the nutter base and get a good job with the Obama administration or in the private sector as a lobbyist.

    When someone of his legislative longevity sees the writing on the wall, he has to start appealing to the ones forcing him to walk the plank — to mix metaphors in a totally incoherent sense, but I’m trying for a big-time columnist’s job.

    Ambassador to the Court of St. James anyone?

    Ag80 (3d1543)

  9. That’s rich, coming from a Democrat.

    They weren’t the Party of Slavery, Secession and Segregation for nothing.

    Techie (482700)

  10. Byrd is not that man anymore. He supported Obama against Hillary despite his state going completely the other way. He voted for Sotomayor. He will vote for reform.

    I consider his journey from being a kleagle (Klan recruitor) to standing with the first African-American president to be one of the more incredible journeys in recent history, and it’s one of those things that give me hope for America. But as my pastor says, people will always try to box you in by your past.

    As for the majority leader: I do like to see a little fire in the normally placid Reid, but these comments were uncalled-for and unnecessary. He read from a prepared text too, so it’s clear that he does indeed believe he can say whatever he wants about Republicans. I feel that way sometimes, too, but there are limits. 🙂

    It is quite enough to say the Party of No is obstructionist and completely unhelpful and leave it at that.

    Myron (998393)

  11. We all believe racism is dead too.

    JD (c28a9e)

  12. Myron, I don’t want to argue with you, but it is flat out idiotic for Reid to bring up Civil Rights Act filibusters as a metaphor for a bill that is thoughtless, poorly written, filled with Chicago-style pork, and sure to cause endless problems. If nothing else, because it will remind people of the Democrats’ role in those filibusters. Including Senator Byrd.

    Except for people who think everything Pelosi and Reid do is grand. Then everything is coolio.

    You call Republicans “The Party of No.” Tres clever. And your Democratic party, plummeting in the polls, running truly record deficits, and trying to pass bills that either aren’t finished or aren’t read by the lockstep partisans trying to pass it…well, what should we call you?

    The party of Duh?

    Oh, and how did you feel about Byrd using the “N” word in 2001? Fine with you? Or is it okay to do just about every racist thing and then say “gee, I’m sorry” when you want to retain power?

    Come on, pal. You cannot be serious about that walking corpse.

    You are slipping.

    Eric Blair (91356a)

  13. Myron’s story of Grand Kleagle Byrd’s evolution would be funny were it not so sad. Only a Dem would have such a standard applied to them. Period. Full stop.

    JD (c28a9e)

  14. Maybe if RSM had voted for Teh One, his sins would be forgiven.

    JD (c28a9e)

  15. Byrd has never provided any thing but his unsupported word that he is no longer a member of the klan.

    Have Blue (854a6e)

  16. Maybe he should submit his Certification of Former Membership (short form). It worked for Obama’s birth certificate.

    DRJ (dee47d)

  17. ” “I see that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid took a swipe at Republicans this morning, comparing them to those who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 for filibustering health reform legislation. It’s worth remembering that the longest filibuster of the 1964 act was conducted by a still-sitting senator, Robert C. Byrd, who personally spoke against the legislation for 14 hours and 13 minutes on June 9 & 10, 1964.””

    Some people learn their lessons. What progressive cause has the filibuster served? Ever? Time to let it go.

    [Found in filter. — DRJ]

    imdw (16d56e)

  18. “Byrd has never provided any thing but his unsupported word that he is no longer a member of the klan.”

    Yeah. A member of the Klan that endorsed a black man for president.

    imdw (9af31a)

  19. “Some people learn their lessons….”

    Um. I don’t think you have read much about Senator Byrd.

    Eric Blair (91356a)

  20. thoughtless, poorly written, filled with Chicago-style pork, and sure to cause endless problems

    Eric: Obviously, Reid doesn’t feel that way about the bill, and neither do I. Is that difficult to understand?

    Myron (998393)

  21. JD: I read many comments about RSM yesterday, most of them denouncing his remarks as racist. Did you?

    Myron (998393)

  22. Everything can be judged by its usefulness for progressive politics.

    JD (ce9ac3)

  23. Yeah. A member of the Klan that endorsed a black man for president.

    imdw: Yeah, not the most usual move for a Klan member.

    Myron (998393)

  24. Then you obviously did not read very carefully. You never did retract your mis-statement/lies you said about what I believed.

    JD (ce9ac3)

  25. Myron:

    This is an honest question. If you take the entire history of Sen. Byrd’s long career in the Senate — if you parse and diagnose his record — would it not appear that he is more a man of loyalty to his self-interest, rather than a man of personal conviction?

    And I will supply the caveat that he has been extremely successful in funneling federal money to a poor state.

    But it seems odd to me that his conviction to assist the down-trodden minorities in his state only developed after a civil rights bill and a voting rights bill, both of which he opposed, were enacted.

    I can not know a man’s heart, but I can go by his actions and his words. If rationalization makes you feel better, good for you.

    Ag80 (3d1543)

  26. 22.Everything can be judged by its usefulness for progressive politics.

    I’m more pragmatic than overly emotional about ridiculous stuff, yes. Judging Byrd by renounced actions from decades ago and ignoring his aid to progressive causes today — that would be silly and unproductive from my view.

    Myron (998393)

  27. Hey, Myron: you have read the bill? Or you trust Harry Reid’s judgement?

    Which is it?

    Because if you have read the bill, LOTS of people have many, many questions for you. Strap in.

    And if you trust Harry Reid, well, God bless you.

    The truth is, you believe whatever someone with a “D” after their name says. That’s it, full stop.

    C’mon. It’s easier to tell the truth.

    Eric Blair (91356a)

  28. would it not appear that he is more a man of loyalty to his self-interest, rather than a man of personal conviction

    AG80: Since we don’t know any man’s heart, it strikes me as you could say that of most men and women serving in politics. One never really knows how much is personal conviction, how much is political expedience. Did George Wallace really change? Strom Thurmond? Who knows. I choose to give them all the benefit of the doubt. B/c some racists never did change (Jesse Helms).

    Myron (998393)

  29. Hey, Myron, I love how forgiving you are of racists! Let’s see. Does “Macaca” mean anything to you? Or is that different?

    You are just a partisan hack, with no consistent world view.

    Defending freaking Byrd? Good sweet God.

    Eric Blair (91356a)

  30. Wow, Myron, you are giving us great ammunition to go looking for things you have said about the previous actions of Republicans. As I recall, you have a long memory about the past wrongs of all kinds of people with Rs after their names.

    You are a silly hypocrite. An alphabetist.

    Eric Blair (91356a)

  31. “…Since we don’t know any man’s heart, it strikes me as you could say that of most men and women serving in politics. One never really knows how much is personal conviction, how much is political expedience. Did George Wallace really change? Strom Thurmond? Who knows. I choose to give them all the benefit of the doubt. B/c some racists never did change (Jesse Helms)….”

    Keep that wonderful language in mind, friends. I don’t think he means “all” in quite the same way others might.

    Eric Blair (91356a)

  32. Myron:

    Your response is fair. You do know the Senate is pretty much an old boys’ club, with a couple of old girls thrown into the mix.

    They all like each other and go out to dinner and everything. What they say about each other in public is forgotten in the Chamber.

    And, as I said, and you said, you can’t know a man’s heart.

    But I do know what happened to Trent Lott. And it didn’t happen to Robert Byrd.

    In your heart, Myron, why?

    Ag80 (3d1543)

  33. Myron,

    Politics makes strange bedfellows. Civil rights icon James Meredith went on to criticize government welfare as more harmful than slavery and the civil rights movement as a way for Northeastern liberals to enhance their status. He even supported Jesse Helms and David Duke, although later he claimed he was “monitoring the enemy.”

    DRJ (dee47d)

  34. It’s ironic Reid would make such a statement: he’s a Mormon and I think it wasn’t until around the late 1970’s that blacks were allowed to become part of the priesthood; until that point, the high office was forbidden to them.

    Also, up until the late 70’s, blacks were not allowed to participate in any of the in-house ceremonies and teachings that could provide the faithful with greater salvation (as opposed to nominal salvation, I guess…)

    From Reid’s church president & founder Brigham Young “If the White man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain (those with dark skin), the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so.”

    I think it would behoove Harry Reid to shut his mouth and think long, deep and hard before attempting to make any equivalencies dealing with anyone clinging to slavery and/or discriminatory behavior of any sort.

    Dana (e9ba20)

  35. JD: I’m not going to retract anything, b/c you ducked my question all four times I asked it.

    Myron (998393)

  36. Eric Blair: I have never regretted forgiving anyone and never will, and will never apologize for it. Hurl all the invective you choose.

    You should try it some time. It’s good for you.

    As for the racist taunt Macaca, an insult that George Allen would be well-familiar with considering his mother’s heritage, I can’t remember if he apologized or made excuses? Do you know?

    Also, did he apologize for cutting off a deer head and putting it in a black family’s mailbox? I can’t remember.

    Myron (998393)

  37. Ag80: Yes, the senate is an old boys club. I always tell people, if you’re not sitting in the State of the Union address when it happens, you’re on one team and everybody in that chamber is on the other team. And they make sure to look out for each other, if no one else.

    As for Lott/Byrd: Lott was excoriated for praising — in modern times — Thurmond’s run as a Dixiecrat, which had a racist foundation. I submit that if Byrd were caught publicly reminiscing over the good ol Klan days he would be similarly challenged.

    The meme that Dems never get zinged for real and imagined racism is popular on sites like this, but is it true? Were not even Bill and Hillary Clinton charged with playing the race card during the South Carolina primary just last year?

    This is what I mean when I say race is a complex issue that is bigger than the two parties. Everything is not partisan politics.

    Myron (998393)

  38. you have a long memory about the past wrongs of all kinds of people with Rs after their names

    Eric: So quit yapping and start hunting for things I said that prove some kind of inconsistency, in your view. Copy and paste, please.

    Myron (998393)

  39. “I can’t remember if he apologized or made excuses? Do you know?”

    Why, I thought sure you would…you know, give him the benefit of the doubt. Kind of like when Byrd used the word “nigger” on national television.

    Right?

    Eric Blair (91356a)

  40. I would much rather you start yapping explaining the health care bill, Myron.

    And explain why it is okay for Byrd to use racist language.

    Eric Blair (91356a)

  41. The double standard with respect to how the media is giving Max Baucus a pass for making his whore a US Attorney versus what they did to Mr. Wolfowitz makes me think Byrd would probably be safe to reminisce at great length about his glorious KKK days.

    happyfeet (2c63dd)

  42. DRJ: Yes, James Meredith’s transformation is one of history’s interesting chapters. I always thought he may have borne some psychic scars from having to go through what he did, and that’s why he started roaming with the likes of Jesse.

    But seriously, he’s just a conservative. I guess it’s no crime. 😉

    But I don’t buy the “monitoring the enemy” bit. He really did turn against the Democratic civil rights agenda.

    Myron (998393)

  43. “… I can’t remember if he apologized or made excuses? Do you know?…

    You mean like this?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/14/AR2006081400589.html

    Where was your benefit of the doubt, or did you leave that at voters’ registration station?

    Eric Blair (91356a)

  44. “Hey, Myron, I love how forgiving you are of racists! Let’s see. Does “Macaca” mean anything to you? Or is that different?”

    Senator macaca is free to run for senate in west virginia and support progressive causes.

    imdw (c06324)

  45. Eric: You made a charge about some past comments of mine, then ducked. And I guess you hoped I wouldn’t notice?

    Happy: Thanks for the comic relief. Sorely needed on this thread right now.

    Baucus is a tool, imho. Good for him. Never should have been the point-man or point anything on health care reform. Bought and sold, and clearly he’s into the concept of buying and selling. At least his girlfriend had the decency to withdraw her name.

    And if Baucus were getting a pass, would we really know about it? I heard about it on MSNBC.

    Myron (998393)

  46. Myron:

    Look, if you want to believe that Allen is a racist, OK, although I doubt it. If you want to blame it on his mother, fine. The other stuff, I don’t know.

    The world is a great tapestry of ifs, ands, or buts.

    People such as you — and me — get to debate issues via a forum that our grandparents could only imagine, but even that’s doubtful.

    I can only hope that throwing the racism canard about is still a serious business. The internet has already made Nazism a virtual joke, no pun intended.

    If you seriously believe that those who you politically disagree with are racist, maybe they’re not the problem.

    Ag80 (3d1543)

  47. Myron – Yes I remember you defending Condi Rice when leftists called her a “house nigger”. And your eloquence when you came to the side of Clarence Thomas against the vicious attacks by Democrats brought tears to my eyes.

    Have Blue (854a6e)

  48. Eric: Thanks for the link. Did you read this?

    Reached Monday evening, Allen said that the word had no derogatory meaning for him and that he was sorry. “I would never want to demean him as an individual. I do apologize if he’s offended by that. That was no way the point.”

    But this “apology” is b.s. Allen is lying. His mother grew up in a culture where the word was used as a derogatory word for dark-skinned people. So, it’s not an apology is you’re not even fully acknowledging the original wrong.

    Also, have you found where he apologized for the deer head in the black family’s mailbox, a youthful “prank”?

    Myron (998393)

  49. Wow. You can tell when a person is lying—even when you…how did you put it…could not know their hearts?

    I’m much more interested in your studied defense of racial epithets than deer heads. Seems to me that adding a “D” to the “n” word makes it much, much more palatable to you. Adding an “R” to a word most people in this country have never heard of makes it insufferable.

    Anyway, Myron, you didn’t cover yourself in honor here:

    https://patterico.com/2009/04/21/la-times-george-bush-came-to-the-white-house-on-the-strength-of-a-supreme-court-ruling/#comment-487199

    I like the “thigh high” boots maturity about Palin. Says a bit more about you than your argumentation, however.

    I also like how the conservatives and Republicans were imploding. Been reading the polls much?

    In addition, you spent time earlier in the thread just insisting (while calling people “youngster” when they disagreed with you) that GW Bush would too have lost if the endless recounts been allowed to continue.

    To bad that awful right wing organ, the New York Times, disagreed. You are flat out wrong. But you are invested in the other business, so there you are.

    But that isn’t the point. The point is you are just a partisan. You accuse other people of “ducking” but what you are is a waste of time.

    You haven’t written us that long, long post explaining that healthcare bill that you understand so well.

    You will Byrd a pass on racist language and yet get in high anger about Allen.

    You haven’t dealt with Byrd’s long, long history of egregious behavior, and why it is okay when he says “sorry” and not okay when Republicans say it.

    You are just an alphabetist. And the part I will enjoy most is watching you tie yourself up in knots explaining why everything this administration does is just dandy.

    Eric Blair (91356a)

  50. Ag80: Putting words in my mouth. Not your normal style.

    I didn’t say Allen was a racist. I said he made a racist taunt. I didn’t even bring him up. I have no idea if he’s a racist and don’t really care. Unlike some people here, I’m not reading the heart of a man I don’t know and telling everyone what kind of a man he is.

    But I do think he played the race card, singling out the dark-skinned Webb volunteer in an all-white crowd in southern Virginia, using a slur he would have at least heard of around the house. I’m not saying that his mom went around using it, but she would have been aware of it.

    I believe he thought he could get away with it, b/c it’s obscure here in America. But he forgot about The Google.

    Myron (998393)

  51. Hmmm…

    “I’m not reading the heart of a man I don’t know and telling everyone what kind of a man he is.”

    As opposed to:

    “…But this “apology” is b.s. Allen is lying. His mother grew up in a culture where the word was used as a derogatory word for dark-skinned people…”

    I won’t even get started how much you seem to know about the heart of Don Rumsfeld.

    Sheesh.

    Eric Blair (91356a)

  52. Have fun with troll, folks. JD is right.

    Eric Blair (91356a)

  53. Eric Blair: I acknowledge that Palin has not been seen in thigh-high boots. Knee-hight, but not thigh-high. You win that point.

    Myron (998393)

  54. I meant “knee-high”

    Myron (998393)

  55. JD is right.

    Eric: JD is right about very little and ducks direct questions. I don’t respect him, frankly.

    I hope he’s not your idol, or you’re in trouble.

    Myron (998393)

  56. 47.Myron – Yes I remember you defending Condi Rice when leftists called her a “house nigger”. And your eloquence when you came to the side of Clarence Thomas against the vicious attacks by Democrats brought tears to my eyes

    Have Blue: Did you even know me via a blog back then, or my views? I just started blogging on P’rico last year, I think. So how do you know my positions on this issues? Methinks you’re battling against an image of me all in your head.

    Myron (998393)

  57. First, the standard Democrat answer to this is that many, if not most, Democrats who opposed ‘civil rights’ legislation switched parties — Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms. The Nixon ‘Southern Strategy”.

    Second, Mr. Republican himself, Barry Goldwater, opposed the ‘civil rights’ legislation — for the very good reason that it was a vast expansion of federal power into the hiring decisions of businesses, and decisions of private people who might want to rent out a room or two in their house, and the right of free association which necessarily means I can include and exclude who I want.

    I understand the political game, but those Democrat Senators who opposed ‘civil rights’ were actually standing up for the constitution.

    a concerned conservative (11d38a)

  58. Well Myron feel free to look up the Democrats who made those vile attacks and come out swinging. I am sure you will have much insight on the subject.

    Have Blue (854a6e)

  59. “Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid took his GOP-blasting rhetoric to a new level Monday, comparing Republicans who oppose health care reform to lawmakers who clung to the institution of slavery more than a century ago.”

    B.S.

    The Dems want the same they’ve always wanted: control over people’s lives. In the old days they wanted to force folks into the cotton fields, now they want to force people into government controlled health care programs.

    The Republicans are still standing against that…well some of them anyway.

    Dave Surls (0785bb)

  60. Usually Myron is just partisan, not dishonest. You asked a juvenile question of me, Myron, which was not ducked, it was ignored, because your premise that I believe racism is dead in no way reflected my views, views that had been stated, repeatedly, in no uncertain terms. When I did answer your question, you fled the thread. I truly thought you were better than that.

    JD (b7daf6)

  61. Anyone recall when KKK Byrd wrote that he would rather see Old Glory trampled in the mud than share a foxhole and fight along side an “afro-American citizen?”

    Fascists, masquerading as Democrats, will look you straight in the eye and lie like a dog. They’re good at it because they have no shame, none at all, to them it’s all just a means to their power seeking ends. They’ll dissemble initially, but resort to outright lies soon enough, then it’s denial and insults if they can’t shout down opposing voices. Next, comes SEIU thugs to “push back” and later to “restore order” and only incidentally, when the cameras aren’t around, to club grandma into silence.

    Fascist/Democrats want control and they’ll kill to get it, pounding senior citizens is only a dress rehearsal for the real thing, coming to a neighborhood like yours, and well before you know what they have in store for you.

    Fascist/Democrats will take power anyway they can, at the ballot box if possible, at the point of a gun if necessary. The whole world depends on them, don’t you see? Their ends justify any means. Recall Anita Dunn’s adoration of Chairman Mao’s dictum that “political power comes from the barrel of a gun.”

    Don’t underestimate the most evil of forces abroad in the land, they’re organized, ruthless, well funded, and they don’t give a damn about your rights, the Constitution, or much of anything except establishing overarching government control with themselves in the driver’s seat, and right here in the land of the free.

    ropelight (50e7c8)

  62. Myron is a gutless coward – this has been well established since he began trolling here. You’re just getting down in the mud with him if you attempt to honestly debate his strawmen and obfuscations – and when you call him on them, he runs away, usually returning about a week later in the wan hope that his earlier asshattery will be forgotten.

    Dmac (a964d5)

  63. How has noone here pointed out the obvious: Even if every single “slavery supporting” Republican voted to filibuster … it wouldn’t matter. There’s 60 Democratic votes in the Senate. The filibuster is alive and well against this bill because DEMOCRATS agreed to it.

    Reid can’t get this bill passed not because of Republican obstruction, but because of Democratic obstruction.

    SaveFarris (bb671c)

  64. I don’t respect him, frankly.

    That’s rich.

    Do you think there is anybody in the whole damn world who gives a shit?

    [note: released from moderation filter. –Stashiu]

    EW1(SG) (edc268)

  65. Anyone recall when KKK Byrd wrote that he would rather see Old Glory trampled in the mud than share a foxhole and fight along side an “afro-American citizen?”

    But Democratic politicos can change – just ask Myron, who thinks that anyone from the GOP naturally is incapable of change. Eric had the troll pegged early on with the “alphabetist” designation.

    Dmac (a964d5)

  66. On the Senate floor yesterday, Senator Barbara Mikulski (D-MD) railed against gender discrimination by insurance companies, citing an example of a women who was refused coverage unless she agreed to sterilization…

    Mikulski continued that “eight states consider domestic violence a pre-existing condition,” before describing the case of a woman who had a medically mandated C-section, and was then denied insurance unless she got sterilized. “Coerced sterilization in the United States of America! I thought that’s what they did in Nazi Germany, or in the old Communist China,” she said.
    tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/12/mikulski-invokes-nazi-germany-to-describe-some-insurance-company-practices.php?ref=fpc

    Byrd apologized for his actions long ago.
    Maybe you will too someday

    bored again (d80b5a)

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  68. “Coerced sterilization in the United States of America!”

    An insurance company can’t FORCE you to accept sterilization, but a government sure can. And, they will to, if they think it’s desirable.

    Dave Surls (360e41)

  69. Why do I suspect that this forced sterilization story is not even remotely related to what actually happened? When did insurance companies get the power to forced sterilization?

    JD (4249e2)

  70. “a woman who had a medically mandated C-section, and was then denied insurance unless she got sterilized. ”

    That’s the quote

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/77259.html

    And in eight states and DC getting slapped around by your husband is a “preexisting condition”
    huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/14/when-getting-beaten-by-yo_n_286029.html

    And you’re all so big on family values.

    bored again (dc53fd)

  71. “There’s 60 Democratic votes in the Senate.”

    58. Bernie Sanders and Joe Lieberman are not democrats.

    imdw (89f53a)

  72. well, to be honest, there are 100 democratic votes in the senate, since they are in office as the result of a senate or governor’s election.

    Joe Lieberman is not a democrat, but he’s famously a democrat in spirit.

    Sanders’s lifetime legislative score from the AFL-CIO is 100%. As of 2006, he has a grade of “C-” from the National Rifle Association (NRA). Former Democratic National Committee chair Howard Dean has stated that “Bernie Sanders votes with the Democrats 98 percent of the time.” New York Sen. Chuck Schumer, chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, endorsed Sanders in his Senate campaign.

    Lieberman may not be a democrat… certainly he isn’t a sure vote. but Sander is a democrat, through and through, and his independent label is a shtick. There simply is no issue that Sanders does not support the democrats with. his vote belongs to Harry Reid under all circumstances.

    Dustin (44f8cb)

  73. Bored is arguing with the voices in its otherwise empty head again. Link spamming is kind of whorish/pimpy.

    JD (fd2bc3)

  74. Saying some nutbag Prog Loon like Sanders is not a Democrat is truly hilarious – tell us, when has Bernie ever gone against the wishes of the Dem party?

    Byrd apologized for his actions long ago
    .

    Yet you think it was sincere, yes? When did he renounce his membership in the KKK, pray tell?

    Dmac (a964d5)

  75. “a woman who had a medically mandated C-section, and was then denied insurance unless she got sterilized. ”

    Call from the cluephone: Time to get a new insurance company.

    Dave Surls (9d1d4a)

  76. “Joe Lieberman is not a democrat, but he’s famously a democrat in spirit.”

    His famousness of late seems to be from not being with the democrats in spirit.

    imdw (c2941b)

  77. “There simply is no issue that Sanders does not support the democrats with. his vote belongs to Harry Reid under all circumstances.”

    He’s made noise on bernanke and on the public option.

    imdw (c2941b)

  78. Sanders is all thunder, and no lightning.

    AD - RtR/OS! (e93189)

  79. “Yet you think it was sincere, yes? When did he renounce his membership in the KKK, pray tell?”

    “Pray tell?” Are you that dim?
    He’s done it more that once.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/18/AR2005061801105_pf.html

    And then there’s his defense of Anita Hill; a public statement clearer, simpler and more honest than I’ve heard from another politician in the past 20 years.

    Do yourself a favor and stop lying.

    bored again (d80b5a)

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