Fort Hood Suspect Has Ties to 9/11 Mosque (Updated x2)
[Guest post by DRJ]
The Telegraph reports Nidal Malik Hasan attended the same mosque where three of the 9/11 hijackers worshiped:
“Hasan, the sole suspect in the massacre of 13 fellow US soldiers in Texas, attended the controversial Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Great Falls, Virginia, in 2001 at the same time as two of the September 11 terrorists, The Sunday Telegraph has learnt. His mother’s funeral was held there in May that year.
The preacher at the time was Anwar al-Awlaki, an American-born Yemeni scholar who was banned from addressing a meeting in London by video link in August because he is accused of supporting attacks on British troops and backing terrorist organisations.
Hasan’s eyes “lit up” when he mentioned his deep respect for al-Awlaki’s teachings, according to a fellow Muslim officer at the Fort Hood base in Texas, the scene of Thursday’s horrific shooting spree.”
This doesn’t prove Hasan is a terrorist but, as Allahpundit says, it raises another giant red flag. Meanwhile, criminal justice experts like James Fox of Northeastern University [no link available but I saw it on Fox News earlier today] insist this has all the hallmarks of a classic workplace shooting.
If he survives, maybe Hasan can clear this up for us.
— DRJ
UPDATE — Co-workers knew Hasan had a problem but were reluctant to file a complaint:
“His fellow students complained to the faculty about Hasan’s “anti-American propaganda,” but said a fear of appearing discriminatory against a Muslim student kept officers from filing a formal written complaint.
“The system is not doing what it’s supposed to do,” said Dr. Val Finnell, who studied with Hasan from 2007-2008 in the master’s program in public health at the military’s Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences. “He at least should have been confronted about these beliefs, told to cease and desist, and to shape up or ship out.”
UPDATE 2: Who was the visitor in Islamic garb that was at Hasan’s apartment less than 48 hours before the shooting? And why aren’t American newspapers investigating and reporting this?
I’m convinced that they knew this guy was gonna blow and got him out of the Washington DC area so he could slaughter some privates and corporals instead of the “important people” when the time came.
Can you imagine the media blaming PTSD if he had shot up Congress or the White House instead?
j curtis (5126e4) — 11/7/2009 @ 5:02 pmWith or without Hasan, the picture is already getting clearer.
Following the criticism of some BBC coverage of the Fort Hood killings, credit is due to the BBC’s Gavin Lee for including in his report this morning the following interview with a young Muslim from the same mosque attended by Major Hasan (the Islamic Community of Greater Killeen) :
Duane : I’m not going to condemn him for what he did. I don’t know why he did it. I will not, absolutely not, condemn him for what he had done though. If he had done it for selfish reasons I still will not condemn him. He’s my brother in the end. I will never condemn him.
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (0ea407) — 11/7/2009 @ 5:02 pmGavin Lee : There might be a lot of people shocked to hear you say that.
Duane: Well, that’s the way it is. I don’t speak for the community here but me personally I will not condemn him.
Gavin Lee : What are your thoughts towards those that were victims in this?
Duane : They were, in the end, they were troops who were going to Afghanistan and Iraq to kill Muslims. I honestly have no pity for them. It’s just like the majority of the people that will hear this, after five or six minutes they’ll be shocked, after that they’ll forget about them and go on their day.
Bradley, I did not need to read that.
*groan*
John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 11/7/2009 @ 5:14 pmI’ve updated the post.
DRJ (dff2ca) — 11/7/2009 @ 5:21 pmJohn Hitchcock,
Sorry for your paternal instincts, and honors to your brave daughter. But I’d like to give the lie to this smirking dismissal:
“It’s just like the majority of the people that will hear this, after five or six minutes they’ll be shocked, after that they’ll forget about them and go on their day.”
For true safety, we can’t forget.
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (0ea407) — 11/7/2009 @ 5:21 pmThere are some very strange thought processes in that community.
AD - RtR/OS! (89a0a7) — 11/7/2009 @ 5:22 pmIf that’s the way the wind blows, it means a long hard slog until this strain is exterminated from the face of the Earth, or they exterminate us. There doesn’t seem to be any middle-ground between the two extremes.
First of all Duane Reasoner, is an uncommon idiot, for believing what he believes and then
bishop (996c34) — 11/7/2009 @ 5:29 pmsaying it.
I hope the keep an eye on Reasoner…oops, that would be racist!
I don’t really blame the Army. This is endemic. We are being killed by our own political correctness, which is just another way of saying, our self-loathing. When will this madness end?
Patricia (b05e7f) — 11/7/2009 @ 5:35 pmReasoner evidently believes PC mania will continue to protect his ilk. So far, he’s been absolutely right.
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (0ea407) — 11/7/2009 @ 5:54 pmI’ve added Update 2 regarding Hasan’s recent visitor.
DRJ (dff2ca) — 11/7/2009 @ 6:00 pmHow sad is it that we have to rely on a British newspaper to bring news like this to light? No American news outlet can dig into this story even a little bit???
radar (a0db31) — 11/7/2009 @ 6:13 pmAs the Von Brunn case illustrated, the FBI can’t investigate based on speech alone, no matter how inflammatory it may be. In addition, I’m not sure what the Army could have done either. In a 2006 case, the Army unsuccessfully tried to bring charges against Ehren Watada based on his speech criticizing the Iraq War. Watada was tried on charges that his statements were conduct unbecoming an officer. He was discharged this year.
DRJ (dff2ca) — 11/7/2009 @ 6:16 pmPolitical Correctness Kills. Hasan was well known within the Military, he was being watched by the FBI his phones were being monitored by the NSA. And his name was included in the Presidential Daily Briefings for some time. Political Correctness Kills
Sanmon (319c0c) — 11/7/2009 @ 6:57 pmThe people who knew about this fundamentalist lunatic but did nothing out of PC concerns now have blood on their hands. May karma be swift.
Kevin Stafford (5d18a5) — 11/7/2009 @ 8:46 pmOkay, dude, here you go…you breathlessly wrote:
Who was the visitor in Islamic garb that was at Hasan’s apartment less than 48 hours before the shooting? And why aren’t American newspapers investigating and reporting this?
Then I quoted the article thusly:
Other residents at the Casa del Norte apartment complex were surprised to see the mild-mannered army officer accompanied by another man in Islamic dress…Alice Thompson, 53, who manages the two storey block of simple dwellings with her husband John, told The Sunday Telegraph: “It was very unusual because he had never had anyone round before. His visitor had long black hair and a moustache and a dark complexion. He stayed about five minutes and then left. We’d never seen him before.”
Its quite possible that a 50ish landlord has no freakin idea what Islamic dress looks like. Indeed, its not common for muslims to grow their hair long and is generally frowned upon in just about every Islamic culture that I know of. Even mildly long hair is considered to be somewhat rebellious.
This is exactly how rumors get started.
There. I think I can be forgiven for thinking that Paterico writes all of the entries on a blog called Patterico’s Pontifications.
magoo (453f8c) — 11/7/2009 @ 8:56 pmI’m not breathless.
DRJ (dff2ca) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:01 pmIt’s also possible Alice Thompson knows what Islamic dress looks like. Why are you so sure she doesn’t? And why blame me for “breathlessly” promoting rumors when I’m asking questions about a newspaper report?
DRJ (dff2ca) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:03 pmDRJ…exactly what I thought. If you want to be Pajamas Media light, then keep this kind of thing up–publishing whatever crazy conspiracy theory comes to you the minute you read something in the paper.
magoo (453f8c) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:05 pmThank you, magoo. I’m glad I have your blessing.
DRJ (dff2ca) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:07 pmIt’s also possible Alice Thompson knows what Islamic dress looks like. Why are you so sure she doesn’t? And why blame me for “breathlessly” promoting rumors when I’m asking questions about a newspaper report?
You were asking why no American papers had reported this, weren’t you? What is Islamic dress? Does it look significantly different from other forms of dress? That’s shoddy reporting, and you were irresponsible to regurgitate it. Also, its unlikely that someone wearing Islamic dress would have long hair. In all my life of living in muslim countries and communities and indeed, being MUSLIM, I’ve never met a muslim man with long hair! Its just not done. The idea of a man devout enough to wear “Islamic clothing” having long hair is patently absurd. If you knew anything about this subject, it would have set alarm bells off about the report.
magoo (453f8c) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:09 pmThese websites (here and here) suggest Muslim men can wear long hair as long as they care for it. So by your standards, it is irresponsible of you to suggest otherwise.
DRJ (dff2ca) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:14 pmmagoo, your certainty that described long hair negates the observation of the islamic dress is hilarious. On the basis of your own claimed expertise on hair length, you call DRJ irresponsible?
The absurdity is all yours.
SPQR (26be8b) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:15 pmIn addition, magoo, the landlady has presumably seen Hasan in Muslim garb — he was shown wearing it the morning of the shooting. Why wouldn’t she know what it looks like?
DRJ (dff2ca) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:17 pmBy the way, magoo, I don’t think it’s irresponsible of you to bring up these points. On the contrary, I think it’s helpful to debate these issues, as opposed to self-editing that *assumes* we know answers we don’t.
DRJ (dff2ca) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:19 pmAnother example of how to win friends and influence people.
JD (769f99) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:20 pmSPQR…magoo, your certainty that described long hair negates the observation of the islamic dress is hilarious.
Its not half as funny as your illiteracy. I said no such thing:
“Also, its unlikely that someone wearing Islamic dress would have long hair.”
That’s what I said, and yes its unlikely. Muslims generally do not have long hair, much less devout ones. You’re just being a troll, you have no idea what you’re talking about, along with the other fool who chimed in.
magoo (453f8c) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:21 pmoops
John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:23 pmmagoo, so based on a mere “unlikelihood”, you condemn DRJ.
You’ve only undermined your own credibility with that defense of your comment.
SPQR (26be8b) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:23 pmDRJ, ahem…
From the day of the shootings:
He usually wore regular clothes and sometimes a uniform, but this time is dressed in a white Arab dishdash and skull cap. A creature of habit, he buys his regular breakfast of hash brown potatoes and coffee from his local Seven-11 convenience store, still wearing his Muslim robes rather his usual attire of uniform or hospital scrubs.
More to the point, where is the attribution for the comment about muslim clothes? No one is quoted saying it…the woman could have said anything. That’s the first thing. The second thing, as I noted is that its very rare, if not practically unheard of for a muslim to wear long hair.
magoo (453f8c) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:33 pmSPQR..
You’re really not very bright.
magoo (453f8c) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:35 pm“Helen Keller” partisan, that pissant.
John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:35 pmAnd now it starts calling people trolls. Rich. Aggressively mendoucheous and generally unpleasant are no way to go through life, magoops.
JD (769f99) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:36 pmmagoo, I’m bright enough to end my italic tags.
SPQR (26be8b) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:37 pmBy the way, magoo, I don’t think it’s irresponsible of you to bring up these points. On the contrary, I think it’s helpful to debate these issues, as opposed to self-editing that *assumes* we know answers we don’t.
Hurray for you. Of course its not irresponsible of me to challenge your assertion. Challenging someone’s statement is never irresponsible. Making unsubstantiated claims about a situation that could have repercussions for Muslim Americans IS irresponsible.
magoo (453f8c) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:40 pmSPQR
magoo, I’m bright enough to end my italic tags.
If that brings you comfort, I’d hate to be the one to take it away from you. Yes, your italic tag-ending is certainly competent. Yes, you’re the bright one in the tag-ending department.
magoo (453f8c) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:41 pmSo far, “Unsubstantiated” describes your comments, magoo.
Not DRJ’s. Who has actually linked to substantiation.
Unlike yourself, whose main support is the profligate use of unrequited italics.
SPQR (26be8b) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:43 pmholes… shovels…
John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:43 pmmagoo,
From the Austin American Stateman:
And from the same article:
We don’t know all the story and my primary interest is in learning more. Unlike you, however, I don’t think the answers are all that clear.
DRJ (dff2ca) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:44 pmAll comments must be cleared for responsibility and accuracy through magoo and Þhe gleeeeeeens. Anything else will not be tolerated.
JD (769f99) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:45 pmHitchcock,
This douchebag back for? Are you going to hide behind your daughter again?
magoo (453f8c) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:45 pmAny of these IP’s trace to a cabana in Brazil?
SPQR (26be8b) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:46 pmThe second thing, as I noted is that its very rare, if not practically unheard of for a muslim to wear long hair.
Comment by magoo — 11/7/2009 @ 9:33 pm
Where did that bullshit come from? There is no prescription in Islam against long hair. There may be a necessity is some Arab countries to shave the head as a protection against lice.
nk (df76d4) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:48 pmWrong again, SPQR. I was challenging his source and his repetition of it as fact, given that so much of the information about this event has already proven false. DJR said:
Who was the visitor in Islamic garb that was at Hasan’s apartment less than 48 hours before the shooting?
Stupidly repeating an assertion that is not even documented in the article he’s quoting from.
magoo (453f8c) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:48 pmNo, sugar britches, I’m here to take you to the back room and show you how much a man I am. You got the twenty bucks?
John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:49 pmSPQR…its a never-ending source of amusement to me how tenaciously you losers cling to the sockpuppet mythology.
magoo (453f8c) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:50 pm“He” is a she, el mas grande douchenozzle del dia, and do you have anything that suggests the person that claimed to have seen that did not see that?
JD (769f99) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:51 pmNot documented in the article? You are claiming that the second paragraph in the article does not read:
“Other residents at the Casa del Norte apartment complex were surprised to see the mild-mannered army officer accompanied by another man in Islamic dress. ”
And you are calling me not bright? What kind of incoherent nonsense are you drooling?
What a clown.
SPQR (26be8b) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:51 pmPlease, you’re no man, Hitchcock, you already proved that by starf*****g your own daughter.
magoo (453f8c) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:52 pmmagoo, now its a myth that Gleen employed sockpuppets?
Oh, great. You’ve just confirmed that you are the not-so-bright one.
SPQR (26be8b) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:52 pmMythology?! Are you claiming the Gleeeeens did not do what it has been thoroughly documented that they did?
JD (769f99) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:53 pmSPQR. Documentation in journalism means attribution. The quote is attributed to no one. It is essentially an anonymous source “other residents”. We’re led to believe, by the article that the apartment manager claims this, but again, there’s no proof she said it. Anywhere.
magoo (453f8c) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:55 pmThis one is particularly vile.
JD (769f99) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:55 pmmagoo:
From the linked article in my Update 2:
That sounds to me like a reasonable basis for questions about an Islamic-garbed visitor.
But you’re right about the danger of assumptions, magoo. FWIW I’m a she, not a he.
DRJ (dff2ca) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:55 pmmagoo,
Sanmon (319c0c) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:56 pmLet me throw you a bone. Hasan was a lone Jihadist terrorist whose fundamentalist muslim beliefs green lighted him to murder 13 soldiers.
magoo comes to the very blog that conclusively established the Greenwald sockpuppetry and writes that it is a myth?
Magoo, you just made your cartoon namesake look insightful.
SPQR (26be8b) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:56 pmMy, my, Mr. magoo certainly seems to be worked up about the hair length of Muslim men.
It’s a big world and it takes all kinds.
Ag80 (3d1543) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:57 pmmagoo is now inventing a standard of proof never actually used in journalism.
I think the utter dishonesty of this troll is manifest now.
Once again, DRJ, you are treating respectfully someone who is attacking you with dishonest argument, falsehood and invention.
SPQR (26be8b) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:58 pmWho was the visitor in Islamic garb that was at Hasan’s apartment less than 48 hours before the shooting?
Yeah, given that a majority of the reporting in the first day of this event proved to be completely specious, its a really responsible to take a non-attributed quote and run with it. Nay, to demand that the American media find this mysterious long-haired Islamically garbed stranger. Maybe he was one of the two other shooters…oh wait, what happened to them again? Last I heard they’d gotten away and were at large, but I haven’t checked Patterico’s blog for a while for an update.
FYI, its always a sure sign you’re on the winning side of an argument when people are ferociously attacking you for not closing your tags and mistaking their gender. Hold on to those little victories, kids, it’ll get you through the long lonely night.
magoo (453f8c) — 11/7/2009 @ 10:08 pmMr. Magoo:
I don’t want to be harshing your mellow, but it kinda seems like someone is looking for a way to get through the long lonely night and I’m guessing it isn’t DRJ, SPQR, Hitchcock JD or me, for that matter.
I know someone who gives advice. I can drop her a line if you like.
Ag80 (3d1543) — 11/7/2009 @ 10:15 pmActually, magoo, its a sure sign that you are the winning side of an argument when your opponents are reduced to claiming that you are not bright. Quite hilarious given you came to the very blog that conclusively proved what you claim is a myth.
But then, misrepresentation is your only remaining tool.
SPQR (26be8b) — 11/7/2009 @ 10:16 pmmagoo, why are you concerned that this man was a radical muslim, last I checked that was legal in the US. He broke laws when he brought guns and ammo onto the base and when he pulled the trigger and murdered 13 people. For that he should be sentenced to death.
Sanmon (319c0c) — 11/7/2009 @ 10:18 pmExactly what standard for attribution is this vile one searching for?
JD (1ec03c) — 11/7/2009 @ 10:27 pmwhy are you concerned that this man was a radical muslim
LOL, I’m not. I’d like you to quote the comment that states that concern. You’re as illiterate as SPQR…
Okay, DRJ, having quadrupled your comment quotient, I’ll be leaving. You remember what we talked about, now.
magoo (453f8c) — 11/7/2009 @ 10:27 pmIt must be last call at the bar in Sao Paolo.
SPQR (26be8b) — 11/7/2009 @ 10:33 pmMagoops sure is full of himself. I’d give 20 to 1 odds my daughter is a better man than he is.
Now, think about that one. 😛
John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 11/7/2009 @ 10:37 pmMr. magoo:
Good night, sir!
You’ve certainly done something here that gives you a great deal of satisfaction. Good for you. I’m sure DRJ will remember what “we” talked about for another 15 minutes or so.
But I do have a question. Did you really “laugh out loud” at Sanmon’s comment? Because there’s no other attribution. Would it be a problem to ask your mom to verify your “laughing-out-loud” moment?
Otherwise, we can’t be sure you actually did “laugh out loud.”
Ag80 (3d1543) — 11/7/2009 @ 10:40 pmJR, evidently, magoo, while calling me illiterate, can’t read to the third paragraph of the Telegraph story.
SPQR (26be8b) — 11/7/2009 @ 10:46 pmHis fellow Muslims – like the other people he interacted with, even medical professionals trained to spot such warning signs – probably didn’t think he was capable of such a heinous act. It’s human nature, regardless of the circumstances. This terrible event is certainly an indictment of the military’s mental health system, and the process soldiers go through to become part of the army. Hasan was never looked on as a threat? 13 people are dad because of that.
JEA (e719af) — 11/8/2009 @ 5:05 amSome de-muddying of the waters:
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/014711.html
I’ve spent a significant portion of my career as a contractor working with various U.S. governmental agencies, departments, and bureaus, and especially DoD and the service branches. Over the last 25 years, I’ve noted the Long March of political correctness through the national security apparatus, and the Fort Hood massacre is a direct result of this transformation.
If this chap had been a Caucasian officer who’d made even a single derogatory statement about ethnic minorities, women, homosexuals, or Muslims, he would’ve been broken, his career over, and possibly even dishonorably discharged. In today’s Army, the slightest hint of judgmentalism or “insensitivity” is treated as a moral outrage and is a career-ender.
Maj. Hasan, however, is a member of two protected classes; he’s of Middle Eastern extraction, and he’s a Muslim. This puts him beyond reproach in today’s military. It turns out he was being investigated by the FBI, and surely Army CID were involved, as well, since he’s a serving Army officer, and yet nothing was done about his treasonous statements which alone should have resulted in his removal from duty and cashiering.
In the modern U.S. military, it is career death to criticize females, minorities, or Muslims on any grounds, as this will be taken as prima facie evidence of “racism” or “bias.” And so our military and supporting organizations are riddled with incompetents, malcontents, and, as we’ve now seen, traitors.
I very clearly remember my shock one day in the Pentagon ten or twelve years ago, when I saw a burn-bag of classified material being carried down a corridor by a female civilian of obvious Middle Eastern origin, wearing the black-and-white checkered hijab favored by many Palestinians. I was able to see her badge on its lanyard round her neck; she wasn’t even a contractor, but was a full-fledged GS-whatever DoD civil service employee. I just shook my head at the idiocy of the bureaucracy, knowing that someday we would pay a price for bringing such people into the very heart of our nation’s defenses. (My imagination back then didn’t run to the extent of a uniformed commissioned officer shooting his fellow soldiers; I figured we’d end up with a civilian employee suicide bomber, possibly a female like the one I’d just observed. I guess I was just behind the times, heh.)
(…)
icr (304f90) — 11/8/2009 @ 7:08 amTalk about jumping to conclusions, Bob Schieffer at the end of his CBS show Face the Nation blamed the shooting on a “government foul up” in not taking the mental health of its soldiers seriously.
He also said that someone had been posting things on the web in the shooter’s name but it was not clear if it was the shooter.
I would not like to see Schieffer sitting as a juror on a criminal case.
Alta Bob (e8af2b) — 11/8/2009 @ 9:22 amDRJ wrote, in her original post above: “This doesn’t prove Hasan is a terrorist ….”
It hasn’t been proved that Hasan had operational contacts with al Qaeda or other terrorist organizations. However, whether he, individually, was a terrorist is not reasonably subject to dispute. When you shoot at dozens of innocent people — people whose common characteristics are that they’re unarmed but on an American military base — and you scream “Allah Akbar” as you slaughter them, you are undoubtedly intending to inflict terror on all of the victims (a broader set than just those who are actually shot).
At this point, we do know that Hasan was a radical Islamic terrorist. We just don’t know how well networked he was, if any.
Beldar (25c556) — 11/8/2009 @ 9:30 amAnd that same government is supposed to take care of health care?
Michael Ejercito (6a1582) — 11/8/2009 @ 9:34 amHasan is certainly a traitorous murderer.* But is it correct to call him a terrorist? He attacked a military installation. How does that qualify as terrorism? I’ve always thought that terrorism applied to attacks on civilians.
*pending conviction.
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (0ea407) — 11/8/2009 @ 9:36 amA State-of-War exists between the People of the United States
AD - RtR/OS! (d951df) — 11/8/2009 @ 11:00 am(conducted in their name by the DoD, and other Governmental Orginizations)
and IslamoFascism (a worldwide terrorist orginization operating under the aegis of AQ).
An attack anywhere by an Islamist against the U.S. conducted in the normal (terrorist) manner of that IslamoFascist Movement (AQ), is an act of terrorism, regardless of the status of the victims of that attack –
particularly if those victims were not accorded the ability to defend themselves because they were in a “protected” environment.
It was no less a terrorist act than the attack on the Pentagon on 9/11!
Bradley – He did attack people in a military fort. However, they weren’t combatants in the field of war. Take your pick, treason or terrorism. I’d characterize his act as both, really. He did mean to terrorize in the generic sense, certainly. He meant soidiers and their families going about routine business off the field of engagement to fear at all times that muslims may “rise up”, and kill anyone at any moment until you submit to Allah and join the ummah.
His dead victims include at least one civilian, and If I’m not mistaken the list of wounded includes pregnant women.
SarahW (692fc6) — 11/8/2009 @ 11:45 amHe’s a terrorist. Also treasonous.
Hey Bro, given the Ft. Hood rules that no one carries a weapon on base, I’d say it was terrorism.
Why are the lefties having so much trouble linking this attack to jihad?
Alta Bob (e8af2b) — 11/8/2009 @ 12:56 pmThe mosque isn’t the only place he has ties to:
Thinking Anew—Security Priorities for the Next Administration
A coherent strategy to address 21st century threats to the United States, one that treats national and homeland security as a seamless whole, has yet to emerge… To help fuel this process, in April 2008 The George Washington University Homeland Security Policy Institute (HSPI) established the Presidential Transition Task Force, comprised of national and homeland security experts, policymakers and practitioners… The goal was to determine the top strategic priorities to advance the nation’s security in the coming decade…
Event Participants:
…Amanda Halpern
U.S. House of Representatives
Beth Hampton
Homeland Security Institute
Nidal Hasan
Uniformed Services University School of Medicine
Donald Hawkins
U.S. Department of Homeland Security
Eric Heighberger
Homeland Security Council…
Well, he was an expert on threats.
Mike K (addb13) — 11/8/2009 @ 1:03 pmBeldar,
I agree the reports strongly suggest Hasan is a terrorist, but I’m not willing to say his motive was terrorism until there is confirmation he yelled ‘Allah Akbar’ before shooting or that he made the inflammatory statements and/or internet postings attributed to him. But the odds are these reports are true, and I don’t disagree with those who already find them credible.
DRJ (dff2ca) — 11/8/2009 @ 2:00 pm