Hillary’s [Mis]Statements
[Guest post by DRJ]
First Hillary claimed she had been named for Sir Edmund Hillary, the famous mountain climber, despite the fact that she was born more than 6 years before he gained fame for climbing Mt. Everest. Then it was her exaggerated claims of importance in negotiating peace in Northern Ireland. That was followed by the debunked campaign story of the pregnant Ohio woman who died after she was denied care. And who can forget Hillary’s “mis-speak” about avoiding sniper fire in Bosnia?
Now a British paper has questioned Hillary’s statements regarding her stay at Belfast’s Europa Hotel:
“But according to the Sunday Life newspaper, during a speech she made to the Stormont parliament she said that Belfast’s landmark Europa Hotel was devastated by an explosion when she first stayed there in 1995.
The Europa, where most journalists covering the decades-long conflict stayed, was famed as Europe’s most bombed hotel, earning the moniker “the Hardboard Hotel”.
However, the last Provisional IRA bomb to damage the Europa was detonated in 1993, two years before President Clinton and his wife checked in for the night.
The last time the Europa underwent renovations because of bomb blast damage was in January 1994, 22 months before the presidential entourage booked 110 rooms at the hotel.
Mrs Clinton told assembled politicians at Stormont: “When Bill and I first came to Belfast we stayed at the Europa Hotel … even though then there were sections boarded up because of damage from bombs.”
Hillary’s spokesman clarified that she was “trying to express a sincere
‘perception’ of a Belfast in darker days” and was “simply contrasting,” not mis-speaking.
— DRJ
Ds misspeak, Rs lie.
It’s hard to believe she doesn’t have better fact checkers. Perhaps she needs a teleprompter.
PatAZ (9d1bb3) — 10/18/2009 @ 6:44 pmI’m so sick of this BS “but the greater truth still holds” types of explanations. Try that one with your superior, see how far that gets you.
Dmac (5ddc52) — 10/18/2009 @ 6:48 pmAsk her how she made all that money trading cattle bellies back in Arkansas.
ropelight (ca73a6) — 10/18/2009 @ 6:48 pm“I’ve always been a Yankees fan.”
TimesDisliker (5944e0) — 10/18/2009 @ 6:53 pmA “sincere perception” cannot let actual facts get in the way.
JD (a8f5e7) — 10/18/2009 @ 6:53 pmAnd Chelsea watched the towers come down on 9/11, and Hillary played soccer at school years before it was even offered as an option. Like Biden, she lies when the truth will suffice. A particularly nasty trait.
Gazzer (22ecdc) — 10/18/2009 @ 6:56 pmQuite appropriate — and very telling — that pathological liars like Bill and Hillary, not to mention Barack “I-didn’t-know-Jeremiah-Wright-was-so-radical” Obama,” are among the big stars of the Democrat Party.
And the left (including so much of the MSM) has the nerve to question, and nitpick away at, the integrity and veracity of people like Sarah Palin?!
Mark (411533) — 10/18/2009 @ 6:57 pmShe’s bravely drawing flak to protect The Precious™.
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (0ea407) — 10/18/2009 @ 6:58 pmHey, guys, cut Hillary some slack ! She is The One’s appointed Secretary of Mis-State, is she not ?
Alasdair (205079) — 10/18/2009 @ 7:01 pmHillary’s spokesman clarified that she was “trying to express a sincere
‘perception’ of a Belfast in darker days”
I guess one can stretch and make a claim similar to that when it came to Joe Biden saying that FDR in the gloom of the 1930s spoke to the nation via television. Or that he was president when the stock market crashed in 1929.
But there still is something defective, and certainly flaky, about all these people of liberal persuasion.
God — or Allah, or Buddha, or Mother Earth, or Supreme Being, or Deity Above — help us.
Mark (411533) — 10/18/2009 @ 7:06 pmBut there still is something defective, and certainly flaky, about all these people of liberal persuasion.
The fact that they can explain it away with such nonchalance is a feature, not a bug.
President Mop (44bf37) — 10/18/2009 @ 7:10 pmSincere perception or deceitful pretense, it’s all pretty much the same to the smartest woman in the world. Recall when she wanted to adopt a child? That was back when her husband wasn’t quite sure of the definition of “is.”
ropelight (ca73a6) — 10/18/2009 @ 7:11 pmTo lie about such insignificant things is troubling. She has had nothing substantial to gain from the lies, and if they hadn’t been found out, it would not have changed her political career or standing.
So if she feels compelled to lie about the smaller things, why on earth should she be trusted with the bigger things that really do matter because truth is apparently malleable depending on one’s need.
Dana (863a65) — 10/18/2009 @ 7:26 pmTo lie about such insignificant things is troubling….So if she feels compelled to lie about the smaller things, why on earth should she be trusted with the bigger things that really do matter because truth is apparently malleable depending on one’s need.
Comment by Dana — 10/18/2009 @ 7:26 pm
Yep, exactly, and this has bothered me for a long time – both the Clintons are like this, and it seems almost…hate to say pathological but it’s like they lie for the fun of it – just to see if the rubes will be fooled by it again this time.
no one you know (1ebbb1) — 10/18/2009 @ 7:33 pmI remember well crossing Apache territory in Arizona back in May of this year. Thankfully, we were not attacked. The raiding parties must have been busy somewhere else.
nk (df76d4) — 10/18/2009 @ 7:41 pmI don’t think they do it to see if we’ll be fooled by it, rather it’s now a part of their nature. It’s like their conscience is no longer seared by lies and dishonesty. It’s become their natural state, so to speak.
To tweak a quote from a great movie: Their moral compass is so fucked up, it would be a shock if they can manage to find their way back to the parking lot.
Dana (863a65) — 10/18/2009 @ 7:43 pmLike the Kennedys, it is easy to tell when a Clinton is lying. Just watch. If their lips are moving, they’re lying.
Ken Hahn (4218c6) — 10/18/2009 @ 7:48 pmre#15 lol…”Crossing Apache territory”, indeed … but Hillary, you were at 30,000 feet in a jet… you haven’t been on the ground in flyover country in a long time.
Bill Lever (a16f35) — 10/18/2009 @ 8:14 pmSometimes lying is the inevitable consequence of uninhibited self aggrandizement, unless of course one’s exploits are seared, seared in the memory, like when Algore invented the Internet.
Sometimes a lie is an attempt to evade responsibility. Who could forget the time Algore went to that Buddhist temple in LA and raised a bunch of money from nuns who weren’t supposed to have any money because they’d all taken vows of poverty? Asked to explain, Algore said he didn’t know he was at a fund raiser, except his staff arranged the event to raise funds, and Al flew out to LA and raised lots of funds. I think the question was a bit inconvenient.
Seems to me that a politician telling you he doesn’t know when he’s been to a fund raiser is like a truck driver telling you he doesn’t know what gas stations are for.
ropelight (ca73a6) — 10/18/2009 @ 8:19 pmHilary subbed for Owen Wilson in Behind Enemy Lines on FX last night. Compelling, I tell ya. It was hard to believe it was based on a true story.
sybilll (47b58e) — 10/18/2009 @ 8:23 pmGeejbus, make it stop.
Ahem, someone lied?
John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 10/18/2009 @ 8:24 pmOf course, JH, there is a radical difference between lying to save the life of an innocent person than lying because you are pathological, or because you can no longer distinguish fact from fiction.
Dana (863a65) — 10/18/2009 @ 8:27 pmMaybe that’s how the nuns became poor — by giving all their money to the Goreacle. Here, I’ll help relieve you of this filthy lucre that ties you to the illusion of the world, so you can become holier!
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (0ea407) — 10/18/2009 @ 8:27 pmIf you’ll lie when it’s unimportant, you’ll lie when it’s important.
A man’s (or woman’s) character is measured simply. What will you do when nobody will know? But public dishonesty is a good alternative.
John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 10/18/2009 @ 8:33 pmTelling lies, perpetuating lies, condemning opponents’ “lies.” It’s all part of the plan.
In my youth, “Newspeak” was part of a dystopian future. And here we are.
A silly example, but an example nonetheless: Bush’s “plastic turkey.” It continues to be a “fact” after so many years, despite reality.
And now we hear about “no taxes on the middle class” and “affordable health care” because of competition from the government. Or how about “taking our eye off the ball” concerning Iraq over our commitment to Afghanistan.
And, let me go ahead and help out the usual posting suspects. Yes, President Bush said a reason for invading Iraq was WMDs. And yes, few, if any, were found. And yes, that proves Bush is exactly the same as President Obama.
Oops.
Meet the new boss, etc.
Ag80 (2a7a2a) — 10/18/2009 @ 8:34 pmDemocrat haven’t caught on that the internet will catch all of their lies. Nothing ever dies on here. Maybe it will dawn on the Fringe Media (former MSM) in the next 10 years, or they will die with the democrats. The current POTUS has been caught in more lies than all preceeding presidents combined.
Scrapiron (4e0dda) — 10/18/2009 @ 8:40 pmgotta watch out flying over apache territory, they got helicopters.
joe (eec58b) — 10/18/2009 @ 8:56 pmWhat I find most bemusing about Hilary’s lies is the MSM treating them like a silent but deadly fart she’s just let escape. She feels badly enough about our noticing;let’s not compound it by remarking about it
corwin (3a368e) — 10/18/2009 @ 9:14 pmBorinnnggg! The Hillary is a lying doofus stories keep on coming; after a while they get old; although it is a fact that they are all true.
Mike Myers (710e8b) — 10/18/2009 @ 9:21 pmI don’t get what she’s trying to accomplish at all. It might just be she thinks she can score book deals for her frightfully insightful takes on foreign affairs. Or maybe she’s just trying to score a pension. Or just kill time since her estranged herpetic husband has a weak heart but is making bank.
happyfeet (f62c43) — 10/18/2009 @ 9:33 pmI’ll tell you why Hillary exaggerates, as well as Bill and the current President as well as the rest of the whole political class, right or left:
They’re not talking to you.
Everything they do and say is to elevate their stature within their own political community — domestically and internationally — and with the media. And the media will play along until they commit a political sin so great it can’t be ignored.
It has nothing to do with any individual who can scan the Internet.
Everything is about position and power and who can get the most minions to pull the the right lever at the polls.
And, I’m sorry guys, the most minions don’t read the Internet.
Ag80 (2a7a2a) — 10/18/2009 @ 9:49 pmMaybe Hillary meant to say she was bombed and wanted to board Bill up when she stayed at the Europa Hotel (hey the Irish trip was just before l’affaire avec Lweinsky started up).
John (d4490d) — 10/19/2009 @ 3:10 amWhat is wrong w/her? Does she think nobody’s going to go back and check this????
JEA (9f9fc9) — 10/19/2009 @ 4:46 amIt happens all the time with politicians, I think it’s pointless to criticize them harshly for it. I would put it in the “comedy” category instead, especially with Hillary.
Jenna Patrick (deb94d) — 10/19/2009 @ 5:14 amI’d usually find this one excusable, except that it all adds up to a pile of howlers over the years. And coming on the heels of her inane “sniper fire” remark less than a year ago, it signifies that she feels that she must somehow elevate her experiences in order to compensate for some perceived shortcoming.
Dmac (5ddc52) — 10/19/2009 @ 6:21 amShe and Biden are particularly outstanding examples of this weird self-promotion by lying. Geraldo Rivera should have a future in politics just based on his similar propensities.
Mike K (2cf494) — 10/19/2009 @ 6:28 amWe’ve all known someone who pads their resume. Hillary does it on a grand scale. I don’t think she can help herself. And again, it’s the media allowing her and others to get away with it repeatedly that I find repulsive.
glenn (757adc) — 10/19/2009 @ 6:40 amSome folk just live in a different reality. Wish they’d just go there, and stay.
htom (412a17) — 10/19/2009 @ 6:59 amWell, there she goes again….
AD - RtR/OS! (2f0f4a) — 10/19/2009 @ 8:23 amIt’s just Hillary being Hillary!
She is special. You all just don’t get it.
The Emperor (1b037c) — 10/19/2009 @ 8:50 amJEA (#33): Yes, although I really thought she had learned her lesson after the Bosnia sniper-fire claim.
Hillary learned her licks campaigning with Bill in the early and mid-90’s, when they could make the most outrageous claims imanginable, knowing full well that it would take 2-3 days and the hard-to-access contents of a newspaper archive to refute those lies. (And by then, it was easy to dismiss as “that’s old news…”)
I’m thinking that Democrats are having a much harder time understanding and accepting the realities of the Internet, wherein anything you ever said is accessable at the push of a button, because it, well, just plays havoc with their habit of lying.
MrJimm (29d438) — 10/19/2009 @ 9:04 amWhat’s sad is, Mme. Secretary could have made the same point truthfully about how often the hotel had been boarded up in the past, including not long for her fist visit. But look how things have improved since then?
It’s so much easier to tell the truth — one never has to remember what one said earlier.
furious (71af32) — 10/19/2009 @ 9:08 amRopelight, Hillary was trading live cattle futures at 40,000lbs per contract times 15 contracts per trade. She wasn’t the one running the money and wasn’t required to put up her own money for margin requirements.
Bar Sinister (d2caac) — 10/19/2009 @ 9:22 amI produced a Hillary segment for Dick Clark’s “When Stars were Kids”, a zillion years ago. Her 1st grade teacher recalled her as very smart, her first boyfriend in HS told me she was against dropping the dress code, and her best friend said that the chorus teacher asked her to lip-synch in the school’s production of Bye-Bye Birdie.
ABC got a strongly worded note from the White House Press Office–before the show aired–asking that the lip-synching part be cut. How much of a control freak do you have to be to worry about an ancient story from high school?
KateC (4d7c94) — 10/19/2009 @ 9:35 amLet’s not forget all those FBI files Hillary was collecting in the White House basement. Hundreds of FBI files. You know, the files her staff was innocently requesting from the FBI so Bill and Hill could “vet potential appointees.” Boy, those Clintons sure were considering lots of Republicans for high level positions, if you can believe a word they say.
One guy Hillary said she was giving special consideration was GOP Senate Majority Leader, Trent Lott. Occasionally, I wonder what position she had in mind for him, humm… Anyway, it worked out really well for Hill and Bill. It was Lott, you see, who sabotaged the impeachment procedure in the Senate, and to this day he’s never been able come up with a satisfactory explanation for why he let the Perpetrator-in-Chief off the hook when it was clear as a bell Clinton was guilty of perjury, obstruction and tampering.
I guess it just goes to show that some guys are above the law, and some guys will do anything to keep their dirty secrets from public exposure. It also proves that a guy with a roving eye sure can use a bright little women at home baking cookies, blackmailing Senators, and suppressing bimbo eruptions.
PS: BarS, thanks for #43. It wasn’t her money at risk, yet she got to keep the profits. Wow, how does that work? Can I get a deal like that without running for office? That Hillary is one smart cookie, she may even be smarter than the antique media gives her credit for.
ropelight (1ccd07) — 10/19/2009 @ 9:37 amRoplight – You can get an investment deal like that with big money types if your spouse is an ethically challenged gorernor of a state who can do back door favors for big money types.
Have Blue (854a6e) — 10/19/2009 @ 10:05 amWhile lame excuse-making and half-assed rationalizations do exist among the right, there is much, much more of that emanating from the left. After all, a lot of liberals fall for the notion that supposed (repeat: supposed) good intentions and lovely compassion excuse sloppiness, flakiness and lies. And that supposed (repeat: supposed) good intentions and lovely compassion offset a lack of integrity. Hence, most trial laywers are of the left, and screwball politicians like Bill/Hillary, Biden and Obama are of the left too.
Mark (411533) — 10/19/2009 @ 10:43 amThe problem with Hilary, most Liberals and some Conservatives is that they have left the self-dramatization that we are all subject to take control. It begins when we first realize that there was a perfect reply that we did not make. We self-dramatize ourselves making that reply and it feels so good! However, that is it for most people(fisherman’s exception here). Some people want their “dream” to be true and, over time, come to believe that their “dream” is true. They start by lying to themselves but, by the time they speak to others, the lie has become, in their minds, the truth.
Longwalker (996c34) — 10/19/2009 @ 11:06 amWell, i think all of this is unfair. let’s give her the nobel peace prize because let’s face it, she deserves it more than obama does.
A.W. (b1db52) — 10/19/2009 @ 11:13 amWell, i think all of this is unfair. let’s give her the nobel peace prize because let’s face it, she deserves it more than obama does.
Comment by A.W. — 10/19/2009 @ 11:13 am
The really pathetic thing is – she does.
no one you know (7a9144) — 10/19/2009 @ 11:18 am#46, you mean favors like operating an obscure airport which just happens to have a military length runway so illegal arms can be supplied to Central and South American revolutionaries? That sort of favor? Why, that would tend to indicate Bill Clinton was enabling the Iran/Contra program, big time. We all know that just couldn’t be true, Clinton is an honorable man. All those involved in Iran/Contra were honorable men.
Now, for the other side of the coin. Who would ever guess those same secret supply planes would return to Arkansas loaded to the gills with cocaine, which was then distributed in frozen chickens trucked all over the US. Ya know, it occurs to me those crooked chicken pluckers just might be the sort of guys to pick up the tab for Hillary’s commodities gambling. Now, wouldn’t that be a hoot?
ropelight (1ccd07) — 10/19/2009 @ 11:19 amI was thinking of the same thing. (Bill) Clinton just felt that he had to embellish things to reach his audience.
Bills’ fantasy tale about Harlem comes to mind. Zero flights operated from LaGuardia to London.
Or how he remembered those churches burning when he grew up, only that it didn’t happen. Or how Al Gore remembered being sung to sleep by the “union label” jingle that wasn’t written or recorded back then… I know, Old News.
carlitos (831ee5) — 10/19/2009 @ 12:18 pmNOYK
I figure we are in for a long 3+ years where we will be faced constantly with moments that you either have to laugh at, or cry. i am going with laughing.
“Ha, ha, look at Mr. Smooth Internationalist. Gives Gordon Brown noncompliant DVD’s. Ha ha.” Sigh.
A.W. (b1db52) — 10/19/2009 @ 1:56 pmYou can see her speech here. Doesn’t she think anyone would notice?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK_zwDtmDlA
Oofy (54a86a) — 10/20/2009 @ 3:39 pm