Patterico's Pontifications

McLame will only stick with hard stuff as long as no one pays attention to him. if he gets called on it,the default is “squishy”. he can’t help himself.

after the ’08 campaign, service to the country or no, i have no time for him, and the good people of Arizona would be well served to replace him with someone who actually gave a damn about their needs and issues.

his RINO ass needs to ride off into the sunset, QUIETLY.

redc1c4 (fb8750) — 9/18/2009 @ 9:15 pm

Jimmy Carter, another profoundly degenerate liberal. Can’t wait for him to …..

HeavenSent (01a566) — 9/18/2009 @ 9:18 pm

Oh, I see this is pretty separate from Senator McCain’s campaign (or lack of one). I’m glad he said it.

Interesting how so many people on the Left applaud former President Carter’s right to free speech, but seem very concerned with free speech by those with whom they disagree politically.

Eric Blair (5290b4) — 9/18/2009 @ 9:18 pm

I’m glad he said it, too. Let’s see if it gets any traction.

nk (df76d4) — 9/18/2009 @ 9:22 pm

You know, if McCain had spoken as such in his run for the presidency, he might have won.

A lot of people today do not realize just how bad a president Carter was.

All we hear today is about his charitable work after he retired. Very commendable, I won’t take that away from him.

But, as someone who voted for him, twice, I do have to say — without a doubt — in my time, he was the worst president ever elected. And, I’m sorry, but that includes Nixon.

Ag80 (592691) — 9/18/2009 @ 9:32 pm

And 40 years from now I bet you can count on Meghan’s daddy giving Barack Obama the what for. He’s all big like that.

No. For reals. Meghan’s daddy shouldn’t have personalized Jimmy’s sentiment what he expressed. Jimmy doesn’t own that vile idea, the idea that dissent is racism.

Like Karl showed us today, it’s a meme driven by Barack Obama’s dirty socialist media and Jimmy was just the reliable albeit geriatric useful idiot what supplied the desired quote.

Meghan’s daddy misattributed the idea to a useless old puppet and let the real purveyors off the hook I think.

Full disclosure: I think Meghan’s daddy is a twat.

happyfeet (6b707a) — 9/18/2009 @ 9:36 pm

Bravo Senator, I respect you even more! While I disagree with McCain on a lot, he would have been a good president in this time of crisis.

chukmaty (28bf38) — 9/18/2009 @ 9:39 pm

I am not sure anyone could have ever guessed that, happyfeet.

JD (9019c8) — 9/18/2009 @ 9:50 pm

Mccain would have made one of the best democrat presidents in history, but he his heart is not in conservatism.

He deserves some praise for speaking out like this. It’s awful for a former president to generalize dissent into such an awful category.

Juan (bd4b30) — 9/18/2009 @ 9:55 pm

McCain would have made a crappy President. I felt that way during the race,and I feel that way today.

But he wouldn’t have been a catastrophic President like Obama is trying to be.

XBradTC (06237f) — 9/18/2009 @ 10:04 pm

John McCain wrote that beautiful letter to Barcky that one time.

JD (9019c8) — 9/18/2009 @ 10:10 pm

Carter was the worst president of the 20th Century. He’s the worst ex-president of all time.

Beldar (8b93ba) — 9/18/2009 @ 11:12 pm

“Carter was the worst president of the 20th Century.”

No way. FDR was the worst…and it ain’t even close.

Glad to see McCain tearing into Carter. Carter richly deserves getting hammered on…but, he wasn’t the worst president in the 20th century.

Dave Surls (88cf33) — 9/18/2009 @ 11:16 pm

crappyfeet whizzed: Jimmy doesn’t own that vile idea, the idea that dissent is racism.

— Who said that he does? He’s expressing it as a true belief. Where the idea originated doesn’t matter. Personal responsibility, buddy! Senator McCain didn’t misattribute anything.

Consider that the next time you feel like talking shit about McCain’s daughter, twit!

[Stupid ‘a’ key! I ~~hite~~ hate when it sticks.]

Icy Texan (259a85) — 9/18/2009 @ 11:19 pm

oh. Mr. Texan I would say I promise to consider that the next time I feel like talking shit about Meghan’s daddy’s daughter but I bet you I’ll for get so I’m not gonna promise.

Did you read Karl’s last post? It’s here. I’m not sure if you read it but Meghan’s daddy I’m pretty sure didn’t.

happyfeet (6b707a) — 9/18/2009 @ 11:34 pm

oh. for get should be one word that’s weird how that happened

happyfeet (6b707a) — 9/18/2009 @ 11:35 pm

Q: Why did Jimmy Carter vote for Obama?

A: He was tired of being the worst President in history.

Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 9/18/2009 @ 11:35 pm

Consider that the next time you feel like talking shit about McCain’s daughter, twit!

Bubba, Happyfeet and I and many others will speak as we wish about Meggy Mac, when we wish, for as long as our host permits such words.

Her “love” of the party her father has “served” for so long is limited to insults, invectives and slander cobbled together inside what passes for a mind under her hair extensions.

She’s no love for actual principles of anything *I* hold dear, let alone the principles that saw the party of her father prosper under President Reagan.

So to sum up a) we’ll talk about the blonde blunder as we wish, b) there’s little you can do about it and c) get bent.

Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 9/18/2009 @ 11:40 pm

Icy Texan, Meghan Mccain appears to be actively engaging the conservatives, and inviting criticism. She’s very shallow in her POV, and I am very suspect of ‘conservatives’ who look at Obama and the GOP and find more to complain about in the GOP. I don’t care about her tattoos and biker rallies. I don’t mind her freedom, but it’s not impressive… it comes across as a pathetic attempt to gain street cred.

there is a lot of money to be made by pretending to be conservative so that the MSM can use you to move the dialogue to the left. Meghan gets play by bashing a movement, and as part of that movement, I don’t appreciate it. What has she done to warrant attention?

Juan (bd4b30) — 9/19/2009 @ 12:10 am

Meghan’s daddy is a leftist RINO and Meghan is a hippobottumus.

John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 9/19/2009 @ 1:31 am

McCain doesn’t do much for me either and as a president I don’t think he would have been much better that Barack-Ula, but had he been this blunt in the campaign (and I am glad he said what he just said about Carter) the darlings of the press would have painted him an old out of touch crank, more so than they tried to do in the first place. Even if McCain had run a better cmapaign, I don’t think there was much he could have done against the “Hope & Change” express. Anyway it is water under the bridge.

BT (78b929) — 9/19/2009 @ 3:31 am

Some Americans are racist. That’s undeniable. And some of those who are racist quite logically oppose having a person of mixed ethnicity as president. Given those two facts, I don’t see how anyone can take seriously the notion that none of the criticism of Obama is motivated by ethnic identity issues.
Rightwingers certainly have no problem labeling Obama anti-white. Why do they expect people to feel sorry for them when they’re accused of being anti-black?

Unapologetic Mexican (08580c) — 9/19/2009 @ 5:09 am

If Mexico or any other 4th world country is so great why do you so many of their citizens strive to come to the USA? Yes, Mexico is a cesspool of corruption and narco-terrorism. Unaplogetic Mexican should vamoose back to Matamoros.

Wondering what Soros and some of the left might have done to help facilitate those stock market and real estate woes when McCain was doing better against the magic negro.

Jimmy Carter and Obama are cut from the same mold. Let’s hope O is also a one term POTUS, but I know plenty of simple-minded twats who think O is the greatest Prez of all time.

aoibhneas (8776b7) — 9/19/2009 @ 5:20 am

Unaplogetic Mexican should vamoose back to Matamoros.

Bicycle thefts would certainly decrease, but who would shovel the snow off my driveway?

nk (df76d4) — 9/19/2009 @ 5:29 am

I don’t see how anyone can take seriously the notion that none of the criticism of Obama is motivated by ethnic identity issues.

There is a shortage of straw somewhere.
No one said that “none of the Criticism of Obama is motivated by ethnic identity issues.” Certainly some small portion of it is, but every time a critic opens his mouth the media sycophants and administration apologists shout wolf racism. And don’t let anybody insert Obama’s face into any of the caricatures or threats done on or to Bush ….. they’ll scream wolf racism twice as loud and start to weep real tears.

quasimodo (80680f) — 9/19/2009 @ 5:35 am

one wonders what happened to the strike out tags

quasimodo (80680f) — 9/19/2009 @ 5:36 am

quasimodo, instead of using the strike box, enter your own strike command. strike and /strike within the horizontal “carrots” instead of s and /s will strikethru. In the several months I’ve been commenting here, the strike box has never worked.

John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 9/19/2009 @ 5:51 am

And, disingenuous Mexican, I refer you to the race-baiting media thread.

John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 9/19/2009 @ 5:53 am

I agree that FDR accomplished much more in the way of badness in his unprecedented four terms than any other President could accomplish in two, let alone Carter in one. That said, Carter has done a lot of damage as an ex-President, as well, making him easily the worst ex-President in history. So on balance, I’d say he’s tied with FDR in overall badness, while coming nowhere close to him in greatness. Disadvantage: Carter.

Xrlq (62cad4) — 9/19/2009 @ 6:19 am

I’m glad he said it, would have been better if he had thrown in a little on segregationist Carter endorsing Lester Maddox for Lt. Gov back in the day.

Would that Carter fire back with something like “Better to have been elected president and then sucked at it, than never to have been elected president at all. Not very productive, but great fun to watch the two old bastards bitchslap each other.

Matador (ad4464) — 9/19/2009 @ 6:30 am

The unapologetic one never misses a chance to call people racists.

JD (e68c1a) — 9/19/2009 @ 6:37 am

Some Americans are racist. That’s undeniable

Some Americans have sh-t for brains when they attempt to hijack threads. That’s undeniable.

Dmac (a93b13) — 9/19/2009 @ 6:59 am

BTW, what the hell does that moniker mean, anyway? Your pose as a Mexican who’s “unapologetic,” for what? Did someone call you a bad name once? Are those evil Rethuglicans being mean to you, or are you accusing anyone who disagrees with you “Wacist?” Sounds like a bad case of projection here.

Dmac (a93b13) — 9/19/2009 @ 7:02 am

Unaplogetic Mexican should vamoose back to Matamoros…..Bicycle thefts would certainly decrease

With a temporarily high spike during the migratory period.

HeavenSent (01a566) — 9/19/2009 @ 7:34 am

Unapologetic.

Joto, vete tomar por el culo en Tijuana….. deja los marciones de Los Angeles en paz.

HeavenSent (01a566) — 9/19/2009 @ 7:36 am

Completely aside from the merits (or lack thereof) of Carter, he’s got the better of the reply here, with, basically, “whatever, dude. Even if I’m an attention whore just like you, I’m not a failure at attention whoring.”

McMaverick is just having an old-man-shakes-fist-at-clouds moment.

[note: fished from spam filter. –Stashiu]

fishbane (d33733) — 9/19/2009 @ 8:14 am

Unapologetic Mexican is just another one of our lefty sock puppets, and isn’t a Mexican.

Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (6714e7) — 9/19/2009 @ 8:26 am

“Some Americans are racist.”

No doubt.

“Whether born from experience or inherent physiological or cultural differences, a possibility I abhor less or discount less than my colleague Judge Cedarbaum, our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging. Justice O’Connor has often been cited as saying that a wise old man and wise old woman will reach the same conclusion in deciding cases. I am not so sure Justice O’Connor is the author of that line since Professor Resnik attributes that line to Supreme Court Justice Coyle. I am also not so sure that I agree with the statement. First, as Professor Martha Minnow has noted, there can never be a universal definition of wise. Second, I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”–A “wise” Latina, and a darling of the liberals

Didn’t hear Mr. Peanut or any other lib Dem objecting much to this kind of overt racist crap. As a matter of fact, not only do libby wibbies not find this objectionable, this person was nominated to the SCOTUS by our very own post-racial El Presidente.

In the case of Joe Wilson, the lib Dems conjure up racism where it doesn’t exist (or at least can’t be seen), yet they totally ignore the most blatant racism when it’s expressed by one of their own.

But, I think we all know that lefties are the biggest liars and hypocrites who ever came down the pike, so this shouldn’t be a surprise.

Dave Surls (88cf33) — 9/19/2009 @ 8:28 am

“So on balance, I’d say he’s tied with FDR in overall badness, while coming nowhere close to him in greatness.”

The only great thing about the President-for-Life is is that he didn’t live to be 95.

Of course, when one is President-for-Life it is impossible to be a bad ex-president, so I have to give Roosevelt this much: he wasn’t a bad ex-president.

Dave Surls (88cf33) — 9/19/2009 @ 8:37 am

The worst president of the twentieth century was Salvador Allende.

Official Internet Data Office (551c17) — 9/19/2009 @ 9:24 am

I think the contest was limited to US Presidents, OIDO.

SPQR (26be8b) — 9/19/2009 @ 9:28 am

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Given those two facts, I don’t see how anyone can take seriously the notion that none of the criticism of Obama is motivated by ethnic identity issues. Comment by Unapologetic Mexican

Yea, and some people take seriously the notion that 9-11 was a secret plot instigated by George Bush or the oil industry, and that UFOs and their non-terrestial occupants visit them on a nightly basis. IOW, there’s a wide range of notions out there, and so big whoop.

When a “lefty” like Jimmy Carter immediately suspects racism is a major motivating factor behind criticism of Obama, instead of issues related to Obama’s ultra-liberalism, that says a lot more about Carter than the people he’s criticizing. Carter reveals way too much consciousness or awareness of the current president’s race (ie, the guy’s superficial characteristics) instead of far deeper matters and traits associated with him.

I’ve long mused that if a high percentage of black America suddenly acquired the ideology of Clarence Thomas or Thomas Sowell, many liberals like Carter would quickly find their sympathy and sensitivities towards black America plunging. After all, since studies have indicated greater numbers of liberals actually are less generous than conservatives in the area of generosity (of donating money, time and even blood), I bet a similar contradiction applies to what in reality would be the hollowness of many liberals’ supposed embrace of civil rights and racial diversity.

BTW, Unapologetic Mexican, and speaking of people who love to embrace something in a mindless, nonsensical way, a high percentage of the electorate of Mexico has been giving hugs and kisses to its version of the Democrat Party and “lefty” politicians for generations.

The last time I checked, Mexico was a, uh, truly wonderful, truly beautiful, truly prosperous, truly well educated, truly tranquil, truly stable, truly safe, truly-corruption-free, truly enviable nation. Uh-huh, yep.

Mark (411533) — 9/19/2009 @ 9:42 am

David Brookth is quite frank that minorities without an Ivy League education can merrily foad.

happyfeet (6b707a) — 9/19/2009 @ 9:44 am

To: happyfeet, Scott Jacobs, Juan, et al.

Who the f*** EVER said that you can’t say what you want to say about anyone?! It certainly wasn’t me, a conservative-libertarian free speech zealot. My point to happyfeet was that his entire post was about guilt by association, rather than personal responsibility for one’s words and actions.

Meghan McCain’s actions upset you; therefore, you are less likely to trust/believe/agree-with what her father says? Did you feel this way back when a couple of Reagan’s kids were so openly & publicly opposed to his policies, and sometimes were real jerks about it?

Jimmy Carter should not be personally criticized for what he said because he was put up to it by his leftist masters in the DNC? Do any of you really feel that he does not believe in what he said?

Was he asked to speak out, to lend some credibility to the meme? Probably. But he could have said “No”.

Asserting that you know what is in Jimmy Carter’s heart is just as untenable a position as is Jimmy Carter asserting that he knows what is in the hearts of the more radical-appearing protestors.

Is there a strategy behind these statements? Of course. But when the worst president of the 20th Century says that he truly believes in what he is saying, I, for one, think he is telling the truth. He really is this lame, stupid & hateful.

Icy Texan (259a85) — 9/19/2009 @ 9:50 am

Some Americans are racist.

Having been to at least half the states in my long life, I agree with that. Some American racists are white, some are black, some Asian, some Latino, some Native American, and never found a “race” that didn’t have a racist among them. Name one majority in any nation in the world that doesn’t have racial turmoil between them and their domestic minority races. In like fashion to the President saying “we won,” it’s almost always a case of numbers, save for some African nations perhaps. And I’m certain some astute and knowledgeable people could rattle off some pertinent exceptions. But caucasions in the US didn’t get the top slot by being any better or worse racially, rather just by being the more numerous race. Same as with every most every other nation. Based on race alone, not politics or resource control. Dominant tribes within a race, for instance.

Relatively greater freedom of speech just makes the racist diatribes more pervasive and louder in western nations. Which perhaps has some correlation to the phenomena of the more integrated cultures witnessing the greatest volume of racial accusations in direct relation to the extent of personal and public freedoms of expression. Squeaky wheels in repressive nations are unsurprisingly…repressed.

political agnostic (88ec76) — 9/19/2009 @ 9:54 am

SPQR, where are the contest rules? Do you make up rules as we go along? Who designated you as the referee?

I also see the link under your handle is to debunkers.org, and whether or not you’re a principal of that site, I can only assume that your obnoxious and vapid little comment (and link) was a passive-aggressive swipe at people who aren’t yet convinced that Obama was born in Hawaii.

Official Internet Data Office (551c17) — 9/19/2009 @ 9:59 am

He’s also the worst ex-president. Name another ex-president who has engaged in such treasonous actions overseas.

packsoldier (a9af04) — 9/19/2009 @ 10:07 am

I don’t think you read my little comment with particular care, but maybe it’s just a sucky unclear little comment. That happens sometimes. QA is not what it once was.

Jimmy Carter is an irrelevant demented codger what missed his death panel appointment years ago.

Irrelevant.

His drooling insipid utterances only have meaning inasmuch as Barack Obama’s media sees fit to build a narrative around them, and, coincidences of coincidences, Jimmy Carter managed to echo and distill perfectly the NPR/CNN/Newsweek narrative du jour that dissent is racist racist racist.

Do you really thing poor demented Jimmy has his finger on the pulse of the media zeitgeist so so well that he said what they were thinking before they were thinking it? Hell no. The little jew-hating worm mindlessly regurgitated what the little reporter monkey had asked him to say before the little reporter monkey turned on his camera.

Meghan’s daddy takes his typical cowardly easy shot at an irrelevant nobody while letting his media pals off the hook. To be clear: Jimmy Carter is not responsible for the dissent is racism meme. Jimmy Carter is not responsible for his own bowel movements. Who’s responsible for the dissent is racism meme? Barack Obama’s dirty socialist media is responsible for the dissent is racism meme.

Mr. Karl made that very very clear I thought.

happyfeet (6b707a) — 9/19/2009 @ 10:07 am

David Brooks did not attend an Ivy-league college himself. He graduated from the University of Chicago. Other snobby non-Ivy poseurs on the Right include Kathleen Parker (Florida State) and Peggy Noonan (Fairleigh Dickinson).

Official Internet Data Office (551c17) — 9/19/2009 @ 10:09 am

OIDO, I don’t do passive-aggressive. If you are a Birther, I will happily ridicule you to your face.

SPQR (26be8b) — 9/19/2009 @ 10:10 am

oh…

Do you really *think* poor demented Jimmy has his finger on the pulse of the media zeitgeist… is what that should say … which, to be clear, that’s rhetorical. I know you acknowledge in your Icy Texan comment that the evil mindless codger was most likely just saying what they told him to say so he could have his pudding pop.

happyfeet (6b707a) — 9/19/2009 @ 10:12 am

“They all laughed at Christopher Columbus, when he said the world was round. . .”
–Ira Gershwin

But, SPQR, your link above to a “debunking” site was obviously and most definitely an out-of context, smart-ass, passive-aggressive little swipe, no matter how confrontational you think you sound now.

Official Internet Data Office (551c17) — 9/19/2009 @ 10:21 am

Comment by Official Internet Data Office — 9/19/2009 @ 9:24 am
DING…DING…DING!
We’ve got a winner!

But seriously, it is a close toss-up between FDR and the Peanut-Farmer;
one was thoroughly disgusting by commission, the other by omission.
By intent, FDR wins, and America lost.

AD - RtR/OS! (410846) — 9/19/2009 @ 10:31 am

Icy, I wasn’t attacking you; just presenting my own view. No sweat.

It’s not that big a deal. Carter is definitely the worst ex president as packsoldier says. Is he the worst president president? I think so. FDR dealt with much more difficult problems, and he did so poorly, but it’s harder to hate him for it. Nixon is the reason Social Security is a disaster… FDR set the age higher (relative to lifespan) than it is today.

I disagree with Happyfeet. Carter has always been good at pretending he’s affable and nice and not responsible for the horrible things he says and does. In reality, he meant to do what he did to America. He is an evil and cunning man who pretends to be your sweet neighbor. My take on it, anyway.

Juan (bd4b30) — 9/19/2009 @ 10:34 am

I disagree that Roosevelt was a bad president. He made a lot of mistakes in economics but there was almost no economic theory that explained the Depression. Keynes wrote his book mid-way through Roosevelt’s second term. It took another 20 years to learn that Keynes, while his theory might be valid, had not anticipated what politicians would do with it. I completely agree that Roosevelt’s policies made the Depression longer and deeper. The problem is that there was no one who had any better ideas at the time.

Hoover, who is usually misrepresented by the left, was just as much a progressive as Roosevelt. Many of the things Roosevelt did, like the WPA and rural electrification, were similar policies to the Whigs of Lincoln’s early years in politics. The real bankrupting of the country came later, about 1976.

In foreign policy, he was probably the best president we’ve had since Washington.

Cater was bad in all facets of the presidency; economics, foreign policy and the “bully pulpit” aspects. He was a complete loser. The similarity between him and Obama is in the fact that both have had huge majorities in Congress and they had no counterweight to their bad ideas. Democrats since the 60s are a party of delusions and hysteria. At one time, there were serious Democrats like Scoop Jackson and Moynihan. Now, we have Joe Lieberman and that’s about it. Maybe a few others who see the folly of their party but do nothing.

We are still dealing with the consequences of Carter’s errors. I hope we can survive Obama’s but I fear disaster lies down this road. The country is careening toward bankruptcy and I see very few politicians who are willing to think about it. Certainly not Democrats and few Republicans.

If you really want to get depressed with me, read National Suicide. Among other things, he points out that Clinton never got within 500 billion of a surplus. The figures are all in government documents that no one ever reads. Like this one that no one reads. This shows that welfare spending was over $700 billion before the Obama administration. Both parties participate in the sham and it began about the time of Carter.

Since the poor are numbered about 37 million, each could be given a cash payment of about $20,000 each year. That, of course, would put thousands of bureaucrats out of work. Bureaucrats who voted for Obama, I might add. The stimulus and the health bills would be the final straw. What do we do to prepare ? I’m thinking about it. It’s not a pretty picture.

Mike K (2cf494) — 9/19/2009 @ 10:42 am

OIDO, you are an idiot and a clown. I’ve been linking my debunkers site for years.

SPQR (26be8b) — 9/19/2009 @ 10:51 am

OIDO – Methinks you are giving yourself waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much credit. SPQR has had that for years.

JD (9019c8) — 9/19/2009 @ 10:54 am

Why can’t we all just get along?

Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (44530a) — 9/19/2009 @ 11:00 am

OIDOtard, if that is your real name, everyone in this thread except you knew we were talking about U.S. Presidents. Even if we were talking about Presidents of any country, on what planet is Allende the worst? He was bad enough, sure, but worse than Saddam Hussein?

Xrlq (62cad4) — 9/19/2009 @ 11:03 am

Xrlq, don’t be so passive-aggressive.

SPQR (26be8b) — 9/19/2009 @ 11:05 am

Unapolgetic about what?

No reason to apologize for origin, but if you are saying that you can never be wrong and never apologize…

Anyway.
Mexican’s are unapologetic racists towards blacks.
Mexicans refer to people of African descent as “negro” and their word for slavedriver is “negrero”. All offensive to African Americans.
I’d also submit that the most virulently racist anti black subset in the US consists of Mexicans.
Blacks have been driven out of areas of LA via force by Mexicans.
Race wars in the joint break down as Mexican vs. Black.
Blacks attending Hispanic dominated high schools are physically attacked by Mexicans because of their race.
Where’s the outcry?
Maybe you should go apologize…

SteveG (97b6b9) — 9/19/2009 @ 11:06 am

SteveG, now you’re going way too deep for “Unapologetic Mexican,” who is not Mexican at all, but the standard lefty troll — I have my suspicions on who it is.

If only the lefty trolls knew how phony they sound and how easily they are detected . . .

Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (44530a) — 9/19/2009 @ 11:11 am

SteveG – Excellent. That comment really got my juices flowing. I’m never happy as one of the evil-mongering, wilderness-dwelling, tiny, disappearing, movement conservative base unless I’m reading about crushing brown minorities under the jackbooted policies of our wealthy and priveledged white corporatist elite.

Keep up the good work!

daleyrocks (718861) — 9/19/2009 @ 11:16 am

It does no good with these assholes to argue whether we are racists or not. “Up yours, (pepperbelly), (watermelon), (picklebiter), etc.” is the only response they deserve.

nk (df76d4) — 9/19/2009 @ 11:18 am

nk – Sometimes it is fun to annoy the pig as they say.

Unapologetic Mexican seems to want an argument, not a serious discussion.

daleyrocks (718861) — 9/19/2009 @ 11:28 am

Unapologetic Mexican seems to want an argument, not a serious discussion.

Comment by daleyrocks — 9/19/2009 @ 11:28 am

Nah, what he wants is some refried beans with chili sause. And six Coronas. And a ’57 Chevy BelAire.

nk (df76d4) — 9/19/2009 @ 11:34 am

And I guess you, SPQR, are the proverbial internet tough guy. This kind of ad hominem attack by you is uncalled for.

No, of course I knew that we were generally speaking about US presidents. But I think it’s pathological of you, SPQR, to get your ass in an uproar when I made a comment that was a little outside the box. Why does it bother you so much? And, as I said, where are the rules posted? If we’re speaking only about US presidents because SPQR says so, why are you yammering now about Saddam Hussein? If you don’t have a sense of humor, buy one.

As for your little debunking website, SPQR, I wasn’t aware that it exists, nor that you have linked it many times before, as JD says. Not that anyone should be aware of it, since just because you’re a principal in the site doesn’t mean it has any inherent intellectual value. It certainly doesn’t seem to have any design value, at least. I admit that I’ve never thought it could be worthwhile to clink on your link, even though I did this time.

Official Internet Data Office (551c17) — 9/19/2009 @ 11:35 am

BTW, my father was a very smart man, and he bought ’67 Chevy Biscaine brand new off the assembly line that he kept for 23 years, but he always regretted that he had not bought a ’57 Chevy BelAire for a song, too.

nk (df76d4) — 9/19/2009 @ 11:38 am

SteveG, you are absolutely correct. I can remember many years ago when I was working for Sears in East LA and Nat Cole came out with his Spanish language album, “Nat King Cole Espanol.” I remember everybody being amused that some Hollywood producer thought Mexicans would buy an album by a black singer.

That was when I was a kid and I remember when the president and CEO of Sears toured our store. He stopped in the men’s clothing section by a horrible garish tie (It had dyed feathers on it) and asked who in the world would order such an ugly tie. Somebody had to tell him, it was our best seller. There is an entire education about people to be had working in a retail store for a while.

Mike K (2cf494) — 9/19/2009 @ 11:39 am

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Official Internet Data Office (551c17) — 9/19/2009 @ 11:40 am

The only ass in an uproar, OIDO, is you. Trying to sneer at my site to cover the fact that you pulled the idea that I had linked to it in some sort of bizarre slam on you is pretty pathetic. Face it, you showed yourself to be clueless.

SPQR (26be8b) — 9/19/2009 @ 11:45 am

Mike K – I’ve got a fat velvet Elvis and a skinny velvet Elvis.

Don’t you judge me!

daleyrocks (718861) — 9/19/2009 @ 11:47 am

Harry Belafonte and Danny Glover seem to get along fine with Castro and Hugo Chavez, but that’s probably because they both treat them as useful American idiots.

daleyrocks (718861) — 9/19/2009 @ 11:51 am

For reals I don’t understand the big deal if someone thinks the Barack Obama has documentation issues. He’s a very sketchy dirty socialist goof-ass. It’s harmless grassy knoll-ism at worst, and it doesn’t support an anti-American propaganda effort like 9/11 trooferism does, so it’s really not very analogous to that I don’t think. I blame mostly those Hot Air pansies for getting all the little right-wing comment monkeys in a twist about it. They really need a hobby, those Hot Air ones.

happyfeet (71f55e) — 9/19/2009 @ 11:56 am

My father in law had a ton of amazing cars. If he had kept his 70 Chevelle or his Roadrunner or the 40s Ford roadster he restored with his dad… man.

Now he’s got a 442 Cutlass from the late 80s, and it’s just not the same.

Juan (bd4b30) — 9/19/2009 @ 11:57 am

Let it slide, OIDO and SPQR.

So I am in Mexico City and I ask a friend, “Do you know Pedro Garcia?” He says, “Do I know Pedro Garcia? Let me tell you ….”:

I am riding my caballo, just minding my own business, when Pedro Garcia rides up on his horse, and says “Senor Taco, I hear you have been escrewing my beautiful daughter Maria”. I say, “No, Don Pedro, I only hold her hand sometime”.

Garcia says, “I don’t believe you. Get off your caballo”. So that pistola is pointing at me and I get off my caballo.

Then he says, “Kneel”. And although it is not Holy Church, that is one grande pistola. So I kneel.

And right there is where a caballo has dropped some horse-apples. And Don Pedro says, “Eat”. And that is still una grande pistola. So I pick up one and eat it. And then Garcia says, “Eat another”. And the pistola is not getting any smaller so I eat another.

But just then, a horsefly stings Garcia’s caballo, and it rears, and his pistola flies out of his hand.

So I pull out my own pistola. And I say “Don Pedro, get off your caballo.” Then I say, “Kneel”. Then I say “Eat”. And I make him eat, one, two, three horse-apples.

And you ask me if I know Pedro Garcia? Why, just the other day I have lunch with him.

nk (df76d4) — 9/19/2009 @ 11:58 am

feets – At least the Hot Air ones are not as vapid as big butt Meghan.

daleyrocks (718861) — 9/19/2009 @ 11:59 am

happyfeet, I agree. I don’t really see what’s so outrageous about someone asking for Obama’s documentation. A really close look at the evidence available shows that there’s really no chance at all Obama’s actually ineligible, but that’s the entire issue and it’s not really that ridiculous to think ACORN’s trainer lawyer thug Obama would lie about something like this.

It’s compared to truther hysteria… the murder of thousands of Americans by the US government. Hiding a piece of paper because there’s something embarrassing on it is not as bad as asserting a mass conspiracy to murder thousands of Americans.

I think people just sense there’s something weird about how Obama’s life story, from Ayers to Columbia to whatever else, is shrouded in mystery. They people have a right to ask for all the documentation available. though some do go way too far insisting Obama’s a Kenyan or whatever, it’s not like LGF is truthful that the
right wing is dominated by that.

Juan (bd4b30) — 9/19/2009 @ 12:02 pm

Well said, Mr. Juan. That’s exactly my feeling.

Also, this is true, Mr. daleyrocks, what you say. This is very, very true. But for real I think teh Hot Air ones are very smart they just… they gin stuff up. And it’s to no purpose. And everyone pretends it’s to some purpose. But it’s not.

For example, I know in my heart that Kathleen Parker has never written anything interesting. This is truth. She is a simpleton and a ditz. The Hot Air people, they simply can’t make Kathleen Parker of interest no matter how intent they are upon asserting that Kathleen Parker says things of interest. And yet sure as the sun will rise…

happyfeet (71f55e) — 9/19/2009 @ 12:06 pm

OIDO, go drink another Zima, mmkay?

John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 9/19/2009 @ 12:07 pm

As for your web site, SPQR, maybe someone will click past the home page one of these days and see how truly important it is.

However, it is duly noted that it was not you but XRLQ who made the statement about Saddam Hussein.

In addition, if I recall correctly, one of the first times the birth-certificate discussion was held on this site, you did your best to sneer at me. So your entire approach was not unexpected nor unanticipated.

Official Internet Data Office (551c17) — 9/19/2009 @ 12:14 pm

“In foreign policy, he was probably the best president we’ve had since Washington.”

Yeah, Rosevelt was great if you like presidents that bungle you into wars that are:

1. None of our business.

2. Get hundreds of thousands of Americans killed.

On that score, FDR was the greatest president of all time.

Dave Surls (6e5875) — 9/19/2009 @ 12:44 pm

ok there’s nothing remotely anti-Semitic about that idea

happyfeet (71f55e) — 9/19/2009 @ 12:47 pm

Comment by nk — 9/19/2009 @ 11:38 am

What he should have bought new in the 50’s was a 1958 Impala (also the first year for the Biscayne), or a ’57 Nomad.

AD - RtR/OS! (410846) — 9/19/2009 @ 12:52 pm

“every time a critic opens his mouth the media sycophants and administration apologists shout wolf racism.”
That’s just not the case. Obama’s spokesman addressed the issue explicitly and said the president doesn’t agree with Carter on that. But don’t let the facts get in the way of your victimhood.

Unapologetic Mexican (08580c) — 9/19/2009 @ 2:23 pm

UM – The daily White House calls to the media and bloggers to provide talking points are what ginned up the racism meme, while Il Douche can remain above the fray unless he steps on his dick again in something like Gatesgate.

daleyrocks (718861) — 9/19/2009 @ 3:47 pm

Dave, the last time I read about it, the Japanese attacked us and Hitler declared war. You, of course, may know different.

Mike K (2cf494) — 9/19/2009 @ 4:10 pm

“That’s just not the case. Obama’s spokesman addressed the issue explicitly and said the president doesn’t agree with Carter on that. But don’t let the facts get in the way of your victimhood.
Comment by Unapologetic Mexican — 9/19/2009 @ 2:23 pm”

Yes, and your response begs the following questions, if unintentionally:

Why then do you think, if the President himself denies it being an issue of racism, do the media and pundits and noted leftists insist that it *is* about racism?

Why would they want to keep their President in a position of victimization?

Why don’t they believe the President’s assessment?

What motive could they have to demean him this way and keep him coddled like a small child, unable to defend his positions, which in turn prevents him from standing or falling on his own merits like any other man or woman in elected office? Isn’t this a form of discrimination?

Dana (863a65) — 9/19/2009 @ 4:45 pm

“Dave, the last time I read about it, the Japanese attacked us and Hitler declared war. You, of course, may know different.”

This is true.

It’s kind of like a hornet’s nest. If you go around banging on it with a stick…they’re going to sting you.

FDR kept hitting them with a stick…and they stung us hard.

Dave Surls (29f0ea) — 9/20/2009 @ 12:27 am

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