Muslims Convicted in UK Terror Plot
[Guest post by DRJ]
A London jury has found 3 British Muslims guilty in a retrial involving a terror plot designed to kill 10,000 innocent civilians:
“The al-Qaeda cell plotted to cause mass murder by detonating home-made liquid explosives on board at least seven passenger flights bound for the US and Canada. The plot had the potential to be three times as deadly as the 9/11 attacks of 2001.”
Apparently this plot is what led to the ban on liquids on aircraft, a ban that is still in place. The plot also involved simultaneous flights reminiscent of 9/11:
“When the men were arrested, one of the plotters, Abdulla Ahmed Ali, had a computer memory stick in his pocket which highlighted seven flights from London to six cities in the US and Canada, each carrying between 241 and 286 passengers and crew.
The flights all departed within 2 hours and 35 minutes of each other, to Chicago, Montreal, Toronto, San Francisco, Washington and New York and police believed there would have been no chance of stopping the attacks once all the aircraft were in the air.”
The British believe the plot was within days of being implemented. This case also illustrates how dangerous terrorism can be in the West because many of those involved were home-grown:
“Six of the eight men, most of whom were British-born and university educated and three of whom were converts, had recorded fiery videos that blamed the West for the slaughter of Muslims and promised floods of martyr operations in return.
Security sources have called the investigation the most significant since the Second World War.
Ali, from Walthamstow, east London, was described in court as the leader who was able to identify in other Muslims a kindred spirit or vulnerability while Sarwar, from High Wycombe, Bucks, was the bomb-maker and Hussain the quartermaster, helped to prepare the bombs.
The others were described as foot soldiers ready to respond when the time was right.”
It’s fortunate that Britain disrupted this attack if all it takes is a few men to recruit and lead several disaffected men.
— DRJ
OK, you gave us the good news.
The bad news is these socialist idiots will let them all go tomorrow because they miss their mommy.
PatriotRider (37b91c) — 9/7/2009 @ 5:35 pmHow utterly racist of you! You could just as easily have said, “A London jury has found 3 British subjects guilty,” but noooo! you had to emphasize that they were Muslims!
You are just so denounced!
The sarcastic Dana (474dfc) — 9/7/2009 @ 5:40 pm#2 The sarcastic Dana: How utterly Imperialist of you! You could have just as easily suggested that DRJ should have said, “A London jury has found 3 men guilty,” but noooo! You had to emphasize that they are subjects of the Crown!
Stand by for a categorical denouncement from JD in 5, 4, 3, 2, …
(What? He’s what? Mugged by marmosets? All jumped off a short bus and surrounded him?)
/Never mind.
EW1(SG) (edc268) — 9/7/2009 @ 5:48 pmOh, and I denounce myself for my sexism in not noting that Dana could have said “people (of the Religion of Pieces).”
EW1(SG) (edc268) — 9/7/2009 @ 5:50 pmThere must be some mistake as Islam is the religion of peace.
Mike K (2cf494) — 9/7/2009 @ 5:52 pmI blame GW Bush. He made them do all this, of course.
When I read about this, and I get angry and worried, I read this to feel better:
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/38673
Eric Blair (0b61b2) — 9/7/2009 @ 5:55 pmWhy “disinfected” men? Did they smell?
Gazzer (1bc622) — 9/7/2009 @ 6:21 pmTang orange-flavored instant breakfast drink was involved if I remember right. You know who loves Tang? Astronauts. And I think Vietnamese people too, or at least some of them. They mix it with Sprite and spices or whatever. Very tasty.
happyfeet (71f55e) — 9/7/2009 @ 6:28 pmOrange colored tongues scare me. Muslims using their tongues to recite the Koran scare everyone.
highpockets (4e1536) — 9/7/2009 @ 6:48 pmGood one, Gazzer. Plus, I admit I did a quick check to make sure I spelled it right.
DRJ (3f5471) — 9/7/2009 @ 6:51 pmAfter the invasion of the retarded marmosets, I almost missed the racism, sexist, and theism so flagrantly displayed here. Denounced, b*tches.
JD (329841) — 9/7/2009 @ 7:09 pmJD:
I denounce you on behalf of retarded marmosets. They have feeling, too. Especially when they lick their toes.
Anti-anamist!
Ag80 (01be36) — 9/7/2009 @ 8:41 pmI’m trying to figure out how you get from 2100 (above the upper end for possible passenger count) to 10k.
This plot however does make me wonder about more realistic attacks against the security queues themselves. Would that just not be spectacular enough for these nutbags? The nature of the beast means there is always going to be some choke-point before a secure area.
Soronel Haetir (2b4c2b) — 9/7/2009 @ 10:15 pmSoronel Haetir,
Based solely on reading articles about this, I think there was evidence suggesting an intent to crash the planes over populated areas so they would also kill people on the ground.
DRJ (3f5471) — 9/7/2009 @ 10:33 pmSH, from this paragraph:
Pons Asinorum (59e897) — 9/7/2009 @ 10:35 pmSorry DRJ, I stepped on your comment.
Pons Asinorum (59e897) — 9/7/2009 @ 10:36 pmI’m still not sure I buy it. Look at the plane that suffered tail seperation soon after 9/11. It disintigrated in the skies above NYC, yet little ground damage resulted.
To credit as many deaths on the ground as in the air just doesn’t seem realistic when compared to prior incidents. Mostly it sounds like number inflation, trying to put the worst possible spin on it.
Soronel Haetir (2b4c2b) — 9/8/2009 @ 5:08 amMr Haetir: So, if the
The situational morality Dana (3e4784) — 9/8/2009 @ 7:57 amMuslim terroristsmisunderstood victims of imperialism were planning to kill only 2,100, that is somehow better than them planning to kill 10,000?No, it would simply be more honest of the authorities.
Soronel Haetir (2b4c2b) — 9/8/2009 @ 9:09 amI guess this makes these guy offical al Qaeda Overseas Contingency Operators
Neo (7830e6) — 9/8/2009 @ 10:51 amIs these men’s main crime terrorism, or Islam?
As for how few people you need for this, look up the IRA sometime. Apparently even at the height of the “Troubles,” the actual number of committed IRA men wasn’t more than a few hundred.
technomad (eefe5a) — 9/8/2009 @ 4:26 pm“Is these men’s main crime terrorism, or Islam?…”
Comment by technomad — 9/8/2009 @ 4:26 pm
Their version of Islam is a crime, because it cannot be observed without committing terrorism.
AD - RtR/OS! (13c1a1) — 9/8/2009 @ 4:47 pm“Is these men’s main crime terrorism, or Islam?”
I think it was conspiracy to murder. Islam is not a crime. They’ve got sharia courts in parts of Londonistan now.
daleyrocks (718861) — 9/8/2009 @ 5:04 pmIslam is the religion of peace, infidels. The streets shall flow with the blood of the non-believers.
JD (e4e95a) — 9/8/2009 @ 5:14 pmHow do our Muslim colleagues think about this? Is there a Muslim on this board? Can they throw more perspective on the relationship between Islam and violence and bloodshed? How do true Muslims feel when they read stuff like this? Pride? Anger? Rage? Embarrassment? Regret?
The Emperor who is trying to be more understanding (1b037c) — 9/8/2009 @ 5:16 pmSoronel, security queues are a significant vulnerability that’s been poorly addressed to date.
SPQR (26be8b) — 9/8/2009 @ 5:22 pm