Wanda Sykes: I Hope Rush Limbaugh’s Kidneys Fail
And Obama grins. Yuk, yuk, yuk:
Paging David Neiwert! Paging David Neiwert! Does this count as “eliminationist” rhetoric?
Of course not! Because, you see, it’s impossible for leftists to engage in such rhetoric.
Sykes also jokes that maybe Limbaugh was the 20th hijacker on 9/11 . . . but was just so strung out on Oxycontin that he missed the flight.
Yuk, yuk, yuk.
Keep grinning, Barry! He looks almost as pleased as when he was shaking the hand of Hugo Chavez . . .
Why is the Right so full of anger and hate ?
Racists
JD (adecf2) — 5/10/2009 @ 1:16 pmThis is a good example of the nonsense that I hear on campus: members of racial minorities, by definition, cannot be racist. Then they start prattling on about Marcuse.
What they need to do is talking to a 60 year old Filipino about the Japanese.
Or light skinned Mexicans about dark skinned Mexicans.
And so forth.
Racism and hate do not get an excuse because the racist and hater suffered from racism or hate.
The fact that our President laughed with cameras rolling kind of says it all.
I’m waiting for the “clown nose on” business any second now.
Eric Blair (34f123) — 5/10/2009 @ 1:24 pmActually, the President’s looks uncomfortable and his grin seems forced. Judging from her follow-up comments, Sykes seems to sense she went too far.
Tim McGarry (9fe080) — 5/10/2009 @ 1:49 pmOops, should be “the President” — don’t know why I put the apostrophe-s in there.
Tim McGarry (9fe080) — 5/10/2009 @ 1:52 pmWanda Sykes hates white people.
daleyrocks (5d22c0) — 5/10/2009 @ 1:53 pmHey, if Obama is having a laugh at Rush Limbaugh’s expense, we can have a laugh at Obama’s expense. Sophomoric but really worth a look:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_3QqO8EXd-II/Sga1Nmg-sVI/AAAAAAAApDo/Ax6DkjVVr_g/s1600-h/Ob.jpg
dhmosquito (c20706) — 5/10/2009 @ 1:54 pmThis passes for humor for the left. Remember Whoopi?
JD (adecf2) — 5/10/2009 @ 1:55 pmBoss Limbaugh has kidneys? Slightly over the top for Sykes. But then, in the Limbaugh/Barnum tradition, any publicity is good publicity. Too bad Colbert wasn’t available. His skewering of Dubya remains a masterpiece.
Sykes could have just said, “No wonder Boss Limbaugh opposes a Republican listening tour, he doesn’t hear too well anyway.” Then the hearing impared lobby could go after her as well.
DCSCA (9d1bb3) — 5/10/2009 @ 2:09 pmFunny, it didn’t look or sound that way to me.
Maybe we are all letting our politics interfere?
Eric Blair (34f123) — 5/10/2009 @ 2:11 pm#7- Right. Mocking Michael J. Fox with ‘The Parkinson’s Jig’ is much more Boss Limbaugh’s level of humor.
DCSCA (9d1bb3) — 5/10/2009 @ 2:14 pmOne can only hope that al Qaeda’s aim is true.
Neo (46a1a2) — 5/10/2009 @ 2:26 pmHuh
The Press invited Colbert to do one of the least funny hatchet jobs ever.
Think about it: then put yourself in Bush’s seat.
A man who is seething with anger unleashes hateful sarcasm masked as “humor” at you in front of a large crowd. You have to sit there and take it.
Bush took it with more grace than I would have… I’d have gone Rahm Emmanuel on him: “*bleep* you and your smarmy *bleeping* *bleep* say hello to this guy Rattner here and the IRS *motherbleeper*
Then say hello to Eric *bleeping* Holder and get ready for some federal prison time for tax evasion”
Contrast with who the press chooses for Obama.
SteveG (c99c5c) — 5/10/2009 @ 2:32 pmTotal suck up sychophants hire another suck up to make jokes about how hard Obama has to work cleaning up after his predecessors….
ASpcA is cool with wishing death on its political opponents. And lying. And being a douchenozzle. Tim was imagining things, Eric.
JD (787a1f) — 5/10/2009 @ 2:52 pm#12- The humor in Colbert’s magnificent skewering of Bush sailed right over Dubya’s befuddled head and hit its mark squarely with the audience in the room- and viewers on TV. Colbert was a classic. So was Imus back in the day face to face with the Clintons.
DCSCA (9d1bb3) — 5/10/2009 @ 2:57 pmThis was predictable. ASpCa is a drooling idiot.
JD (787a1f) — 5/10/2009 @ 3:06 pmCertainly the brazen hypocrisy is no surprise.
SPQR (26be8b) — 5/10/2009 @ 3:32 pmJD, SPQR, the best response to the use of the words “magnificent,” “humor,” and “classic” above is as follows:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk
In any event, the fellow is just trolling. On the other hand, we have already seen his “sense of humor” in previous posts, right?
Eric Blair (34f123) — 5/10/2009 @ 3:43 pmHey, JD, Ag80, Apogee, Stash, Dmac, daley….
Doesn’t this seem familiar?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EkBuKQEkio
Eric Blair (34f123) — 5/10/2009 @ 3:48 pmSykes and Obama were incredible last night. Most there couldn’t stop howling with laughter. Obama actually got a standing ovation which is a first at the WHCD.
Natalee (9aad9d) — 5/10/2009 @ 4:01 pm[…] Or over at Patterico […]
Gazzer’s Gabfest » Is there no truth in advertising any more? (b98ad6) — 5/10/2009 @ 4:11 pm“making fun of a parkinson’s patient with no political axe to grind other than advocating for further research of his particular disease (D) = comedy gold”
Candy bar – Do your research. Limbaugh actually apologized if his remarks were misinterpreted, but he was not mocking Fox. Fox had admitted in writing and on air that he manipulated the level of his parkinsons meds in advance of giving testimony about the disease. That is fact not fiction and Limbaugh was pointing it out. Limbaugh was also pointing out that the bill Fox was supporting was really a bill about human cloning, not ESCR. Fox later admitted he had not read the bill befoire making the ad. Those are two more facts asshat. Stick with the hivemind liberal conventional wisdom and you will be wrong nine times out of ten.
daleyrocks (5d22c0) — 5/10/2009 @ 4:24 pmI did my research.
Liar.
Paul (creator of "Staunch Brayer") (1e5911) — 5/10/2009 @ 4:36 pmThe $3 whore continues its mendoucheous lying. SHOCKA!
JD (e66bfa) — 5/10/2009 @ 4:38 pmOne of the key components in humor is funny.
Laughing because you hate someone says a lot about a deficit in honor and character.
Same goes for equating an expressed desire for a persons physical failure (addiction and/or death from kidney faiilure) with an expressed desire for failure of a political agenda.
Of course now Limbaugh can say that Obama wants him dead which will make Limbaugh millions and the US Treasury 39%, so there is that silver lining
SteveG (c99c5c) — 5/10/2009 @ 4:40 pmLink Fox admitting that he manipulated his meds in order to appear in worse shape than he is actually experiences on a daily basis, and then I will agree that I am a liar.
Strawman tosser.
Paul (creator of "Staunch Brayer") (1e5911) — 5/10/2009 @ 4:43 pm#29- One of the key components in humor is funny. Laughing because you hate someone says a lot about a deficit in honor and character. Same goes for equating an expressed desire for a persons physical failure (addiction and/or death from kidney faiilure) with an expressed desire for failure of a political agenda.
Yes, it does, doesn’t it. Guess that covers Boss Limbaugh’s hilarious ‘Parkinson’s Jig’ as well. Michael J. Fox and people worldwide inflicted with Parkinson’s Disease got a good laugh from that. Hypocrite.
DCSCA (9d1bb3) — 5/10/2009 @ 4:54 pmmaking fun of a parkinson’s patient with no political axe to grind
Right – no political axe to grind, but he goes on the air in a paid advocacy ad, then admits later that he didn’t even know the piece of legislation he was advocating for – how dare anyone call into question his bona fides on the subject at hand, after all the poor man has Parkinson’s! So, naturally he’s an automatic expert.
However, he also admitted that he did so because without manipulating his meds he would not have been able to move or function
…right – so once again, how dare anyone call into question his manipulation of his medicine in order to score more points, even though he denied it after Rush questioned it in the first place.
10 – cent Head proves his worth once again.
Dmac (1ddf7e) — 5/10/2009 @ 4:56 pmThe Leftists are all outraged because Rush revealed Fox’s dirty little secret:
AD - RtR/OS! (b39970) — 5/10/2009 @ 4:57 pmWhen he wants to really jerk the strings of some money-gushing body, he cuts back on his meds before the appearance so that his symptoms are more prominant.
Of course, what they ignore, is that Fox himself confirmed this.
…but then, Wanda is no different than the Libtard fem writer who wanted Justice Thomas’ wife to cook him all sorts of foods that would harden his arteries, etc.
AD - RtR/OS! (b39970) — 5/10/2009 @ 4:59 pmCandy Bar – Why don’t you prove something I said was incorrect and then we can talk. So far you are batting 0.000% as usual. I’d say the burden of proof is on you based on your initial allegations.
daleyrocks (5d22c0) — 5/10/2009 @ 5:00 pmLimbaugh actually apologized if his remarks were misinterpreted, <– explain how you can misinterpret a mocking jig mimmicking with exaggeration the symptoms of the disease and his own words accusing Fox of doing just that for further an agenda. Sick hypocrite. God already has Boss Limbaugh’s number, and it isnt for a phone.
DCSCA (9d1bb3) — 5/10/2009 @ 5:01 pmClarifying a story so that the actual truth is exposed can only be used as a strawman if the counter argument has been designed to deceive the audience, Paul.
Wrong, buddy, The “liar” statement was aimed at your claim you did research. You asked me to prove you are a liar by providing a link to a story not covered in my charge. That is the definition of strawman tossing.
Prove that exact statement with a link or you’re a dirty liar.
Where are the links supporting your statements?
Paul (creator of "Staunch Brayer") (1e5911) — 5/10/2009 @ 5:09 pmFrom Michael J. Fox’s book – Describing his 1999 Senate Testimony:
“Snippets of my testimony were featured on several of the nightly news broadcasts. One line in particular from my prepared statement got a lot of play: “In my forties, I can expect challenges most people wouldn’t face until their seventies and eighties, if ever. But with your help, if we all do everything we can to eradicate this disease, when I’m in my fifties I’ll be dancing at my children’s weddings.” I had made a deliberate choice to appear before the subcommittee without medication. It seemed to me that this occasion demanded that my testimony about the effects of the disease, and the urgency we as a community were feeling, be seen as well as heard. For people who had never observed me in this kind of shape, the transformation must have been startling.
Later that day, when I finally got a chance to see the hearing broadcast in its entirety on C-SPAN, I was struck too, but by a transformation of a completely different kind. Sure, the symptoms were severe—I looked as though an invisible bully were harassing me while I read my statement. My head jerked, skewing my reading glasses as if the back of my skull were being slapped. I was fighting to control the pages of my speech, my arms bouncing as if someone were trying to knock the paper out of my hands. But through it all, I never wavered. I saw in my eyes an even, controlled sense of purpose I had never seen in myself before. There was, ironically enough, a steadiness in me, even as I was shaking like a leaf. I couldn’t be this still until I could no longer keep still. The bully attacked from every angle, even from within my own body, but I wasn’t about to give in, or be distracted from what I had come there to do.”
Blow me butt munch.
daleyrocks (5d22c0) — 5/10/2009 @ 5:12 pmCement head is a liar. Correction: A dirty liar.
Oh, that link’s real objective. He might as well have interview with Markos Moulitsas Zúñiga.
Paul (creator of "Staunch Brayer") (1e5911) — 5/10/2009 @ 5:14 pmActually Michael J. Fox admitted in his own book that he had omitted taking medication before a Senate hearing in order to display his symptoms.
SPQR (26be8b) — 5/10/2009 @ 5:15 pmNo, mdm, the point is that there was a factual basis for believing Fox capable of the practice. Its hardly “heartless” to accuse someone of doing something they’ve admitted to doing in the past.
Not that logic has anything to do with your comments.
SPQR (26be8b) — 5/10/2009 @ 5:23 pm#46- We’re on Channel 7, spork. Get with the program. Limbaugh alleged on the October 23 edition of his radio program that Fox’s physical appearance in a recent campaign advertisement endorsing Missouri Democratic Senate candidate Claire McCaskill for supporting embryonic stem cell research, in which Fox was “moving all around and shaking,” was “purely an act.” Limbaugh then added that “this is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn’t take his medication or he’s acting, one of the two.” But while Limbaugh also stated on October 23 that “I will apologize to Michael J. Fox if I am wrong in characterizing his behavior on this commercial as an act,” Limbaugh not only did not apologize, he defended his comments on his show the next day. Pointing to Fox’s statement in his book, Lucky Man: A Memoir (Hyperion, April 2002), that he testified before Congress in 1999 “without medication,” Limbaugh declared on his October 24 show that “all I said yesterday was: ‘He’s either acting or he’s off his meds.’ I was right. He was off his meds.”
According to an October 25 New York Times article, “[a] spokesman for Mr. Fox said his tremors were caused by his medication.”
Although Limbaugh was referring to the ad Fox did for McCaskill, Fox has also filmed ads on behalf of Maryland Democratic Senate nominee Rep. Benjamin L. Cardin and Wisconsin Gov. Jim Doyle (D) and, as noted by blogger Atrios (Media Matters senior fellow Duncan Black), Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA) in the 2004 general election.
DCSCA (9d1bb3) — 5/10/2009 @ 5:24 pm“Again, you’re shifting the argument to serve your purpose and deceive the audience.”
Candy Bar – I did not shift any argument. You asked me to find evidence that he has admitted before that he alters his medication levels before testimony in your comment 28. I found it. Now admit that you are a liar as promised.
Read my original comment and what Rush originally claimed. You are the one who claims he has done the research. It is clear you are trying to move the goalposts after the fact to make yourself look like less of an idiot.
The Couric interview adds nothing.
daleyrocks (5d22c0) — 5/10/2009 @ 5:25 pmYes, DCSCA, we know that you can’t follow the conversation. No need to confirm it for us.
SPQR (26be8b) — 5/10/2009 @ 5:26 pmAgain, you’re shifting the argument to serve your purpose and deceive the audience.
Shifting?
Let’s go back to daleyrock’s original statement in #23:
No matter what he says in that interview with Katie, Fox admitted in his own book he manipulatd his meds before giving testimony. From #42 in the quote4 from Fox’s book:
There’s your proof, liar.
Paul (creator of "Staunch Brayer") (1e5911) — 5/10/2009 @ 5:26 pmYes, DCSCA, we know that you can’t follow the conversation. No need to confirm it for us.
Comedy gold, SPQR!
Paul (creator of "Staunch Brayer") (1e5911) — 5/10/2009 @ 5:29 pmTestimony is not an advertisement, progtards. Get it?!11!!11!
Gotta run for a while. Have fun with the trolls.
daleyrocks (5d22c0) — 5/10/2009 @ 5:29 pmProve that exact statement with a link or you’re a dirty liar.
Comment by the million dollar man — 5/10/2009 @ 5:01 pm
I think this is on-point: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/26/eveningnews/main2128188.shtml
Do I have access to the exact statement? No!
AD - RtR/OS! (b39970) — 5/10/2009 @ 5:29 pmIt was, after all, several years ago, and it was an audio snip.
However, I don’t appreciate your tone, and think you need to reevaluate how you wish to engage in discussions.
Of course, a normal human being would call it “heartless” to ridicule a man for an addiction that has caused so much physical harm such as deafness. But I’m being redundant since we already know of DCSCA’s hypocrisy.
SPQR (26be8b) — 5/10/2009 @ 5:29 pmdaley…Thank you for the quote from Mr. Fox’s own hand.
AD - RtR/OS! (b39970) — 5/10/2009 @ 5:34 pm#42- Boss Limbaugh mimicked Fox’s appearences in the campaign commercial(s), not his earlier Senate hearing appearences. Boss Limbaugh’s actions remain indefensible and characterize his temperament toward the afflicted. Little wonder a GOP ‘listening tour’ for a new ‘vision’ is repugnant to Boss Limbaugh. He doesn’t hear too well and apparently doesn’t see to well, either.
DCSCA (9d1bb3) — 5/10/2009 @ 5:39 pmI had made a deliberate choice to appear before the subcommittee without medication
mmm…the ball is now in your court.
crickets….
AD - RtR/OS! (b39970) — 5/10/2009 @ 5:39 pm#56-Hey, spork-o, bone up on your Conservative Manifesto. Personal responsibility. Choices have consequences.
DCSCA (9d1bb3) — 5/10/2009 @ 5:42 pmDCSCA, celebrate your hypocrisy, you know you want to.
SPQR (26be8b) — 5/10/2009 @ 5:44 pm#59- And this has what to do with his appearence in the TV commercial? Nothing. Boss Limbaugh’s colors are easy to see- yellow. Dissssss-missed.
DCSCA (9d1bb3) — 5/10/2009 @ 5:45 pmSo Fox didn’t take his meds so his symptoms would get worse and then he could be a non-partisan advocate for McCaskill (democrat) Doyle (democrat) and Spectre (democrat (today– then he was a rino)).
But because he has a disease, he can’t be criticised in anyway? That’s a pretty typical lefty statement.
And all this proves that its ok for lefty “comedians” to call American citizens 911 terrorists and puke that they should die of kidney failue. See that’s why we need the fairness doctrine, because the right is soooooo hateful.
red (76d48a) — 5/10/2009 @ 5:46 pmBoss Limbaugh’s actions remain indefensible and characterize his temperament toward the afflicted.
So criticizing an admitted liar’s actions in a similar situation is indefensible?
Whatever.
Paul (creator of "Staunch Brayer") (1e5911) — 5/10/2009 @ 5:47 pmDCSCA #60, another lie on your part. Fox’s past admitted practice is itself evidence that he may repeat it. It is your colors that are easy to see. Hypocrisy and dishonesty.
SPQR (26be8b) — 5/10/2009 @ 5:47 pmThe count is nine, so far.
Eric Blair (34f123) — 5/10/2009 @ 5:50 pmPersonal responsibility. Choices have consequences.
Tell it to Fox.
Paul (creator of "Staunch Brayer") (1e5911) — 5/10/2009 @ 5:50 pmYou do have a comprehension problem, don’t you.
I wasn’t talking about the commercial, or the controversy created by Rush’s attack over this commercial (and I was kind enough to you not to point out Rush’s on-air appology in the same segment that he made the accusation), I commented that Mr.Fox had revealed that he altered his med levels to effect the perception of his illness when appearing before bodies that could, or could not, fund research for Parkinsons, and that Rush called him (Mr. Fox) on that little-white-lie.
So, since you are unable to contribute anything of worth to the discussion, why don’t you take your cyber-bully/buffoon act somewhere else?
AD - RtR/OS! (b39970) — 5/10/2009 @ 5:51 pmWell, I guess it’s hardly surprising that Michael J Fox’s political sentiments — per where he cuts his checks to — are in the limousine-liberal category. However, I guess since the actor did include one donation to a token Republican (although — surprise, surprise — it turns out to have been an “R” who has since changed his party registration to “D”), Fox therefore is only somewhat ultra-liberal, not out-and-out ultra-liberal.
Beyond merely that, I’d say it’s hard to give the benefit of the doubt to — and trust the objectivity of — anyone who’d give money to a big joker and clown like Al Franken.
Mark (411533) — 5/10/2009 @ 5:53 pmAm I the only one who has noticed that all of the comments by “million dollar man” are gone?
AD - RtR/OS! (b39970) — 5/10/2009 @ 5:57 pmWow. That suggests that someone pretty horrific got posted, maybe. Or else the fellow asked that his posts be removed.
Wouldn’t it be easier if we have more disagreements, and less trolling?
Eric Blair (34f123) — 5/10/2009 @ 6:00 pmWithout trolls, what would we do?
AD - RtR/OS! (b39970) — 5/10/2009 @ 6:04 pm59 comments and no one has asked how heartless it was, Limbaugh physically “shaking around” on a radio show.
carlitos (aa025a) — 5/10/2009 @ 6:06 pmAm I the only one who has noticed that all of the comments by “million dollar man” are gone?
No. And I find such actions annoying.
Not the deleting of comments themselves, that I agree with 100%. Especially if the comments belong to someone previously banned posting under a new handle.
What annoys me is that the online conversation is harder to follow: herky-jerky and disjointed. I suggest to the administrator or whoever it is doing the comment deleting simply replace the deleted comments with “comment deleted by administrator” or some such, so when anyone comes in late to a long thread, they don’t have to wade through 150 comments to figure out what in blazes is going on. They can simply concentrate on the comments themselves.
Now on with the thread subject: the unfunny Wanda Sykes appearence.
Paul (creator of "Staunch Brayer") (1e5911) — 5/10/2009 @ 6:11 pmOn the other hand, Paul, when you find out some things, you cannot unknow them.
There may be some unpleasant stuff going on.
Getting back to your point, I would LOVE it if both sides would forever more condemn this kind of personal insult at such gatherings. Sykes going after Sarah Palin’s daughter, for example. I keep thinking about jokes concerning Joe Biden’s daughter.
Because that would be different, and in bad taste.
Eric Blair (34f123) — 5/10/2009 @ 6:15 pmTodd Palin was the model of restraint for sitting peacefully through this bullshit.
Techie (9c008e) — 5/10/2009 @ 6:19 pmPersonally, I thought the comment from another drive-by troll that Barcky was the 1st standing ovation EVAH to be quite humorous. It is to laugh. The idea that the sycophantic fellating media would do anything short of a standing “O” is ridiculous. They have repeatedly given him standing “O’s” just for walking into a press conference. I also sincerely doubt that he was the first to get a standing “O”, but that is really beside the point.
JD (03fb69) — 5/10/2009 @ 6:22 pmThe ones about Palin’s daughter were the worst, yet given the Left’s history towards them, they were not at all surprising.
JD (03fb69) — 5/10/2009 @ 6:25 pmPlus, it would be good to remind our friends on the Left, that in response to the gentle, friendly, jibes that come from Ms. Sykes, Mr. Colbert, and others, if we were the Fascistic Brownshirt Thugs they claim us to be, a lot of them would be having their showbusiness (and other) careers terminated with extreme prejudice.
AD - RtR/OS! (b39970) — 5/10/2009 @ 6:26 pm“standing ovation”
Ladies and Gentlemen, behold the vaunted Fourth Estate, bravely afflicting the comfortable and speaking truth to power. Truly, the watchdogs of our Republic.
Techie (9c008e) — 5/10/2009 @ 6:26 pmOn the other hand, Paul, when you find out some things, you cannot unknow them.
There may be some unpleasant stuff going on.
I’m not asking for any inappropriate comments (or any comments made by banned commenters) to remain. I’m simply asking for any deleted comments to be replaced with “comment deleted” so that the thread is easier to follow.
Sykes going after Sarah Palin’s daughter, for example.
Apparently Sykes forgot Obama declared the kids off-limits.
Paul (creator of "Staunch Brayer") (1e5911) — 5/10/2009 @ 6:29 pmThe jokes weren’t really funny, but I think she just wanted to get her digs in. Pathetic. The whole evening–watching these supposedly educated, sophisticated people acting like groupies for a politician!
Patricia (2183bb) — 5/10/2009 @ 6:34 pmHe had his fingers crossed.
AD - RtR/OS! (b39970) — 5/10/2009 @ 6:35 pmAs to million dollar man:
He work here is done.
Paul:
It’s not worth our time to replace TnJ/EdfromPA/mmd’s comments with other verbiage. He’s previously banned, for good reasons, and deserves nothing more than a press of the delete button.
Patterico (95efe5) — 5/10/2009 @ 6:45 pmSykes and Obama were incredible last night. Most there couldn’t stop howling with laughter. Obama actually got a standing ovation which is a first at the WHCD.
Comment by Natalee
I suspect that if the lights had been out, he would have gotten more than that. A standing ovation from your lovers is not news.
I agree that deleted comments should be noted. Mine are routinely deleted at Washington Monthly and with no notice. That results in hateful slanders about comments of mine that are not there and that is mildly amusing but the fair thing to do is to acknowledge that you are deleting them, no matter how useless.
And I would like to point out that every time someone responds to a troll-post of DCSCA, he/she/it has an orgasm. If you reward behavior, you get more of it.
Mike K (90939b) — 5/10/2009 @ 6:47 pmso that the thread is easier to follow.
All threads at patterico.com tend to be tougher to follow because of the graphic formatting chosen for this web site’s forum. I’m referring to the way that each post is visually merged with the one above it and the one below it.
Most other forums out there in cyberspace are configured to include some type of horizontal rule (ie, thin black lines) or message box to separate one post from another.
As for Wanda Sykes, it is surprising (surprising, I say!!) that a person who is (a) female, (b) black, (c) in show business, and who also is (d) homosexual should have a political slant that leans left. Whoda thunk it!?
Mark (411533) — 5/10/2009 @ 6:50 pmAnd I would like to point out that every time someone responds to a troll-post of DCSCA, he/she/it has an orgasm. If you reward behavior, you get more of it.
Comment by Mike K — 5/10/2009 @ 6:47 pm
But Mike, watching a single-celled organism pulsate, writhe, contract, etc, in response to stimulii under the microscope was the most fascinating part of high-school biology.
AD - RtR/OS! (b39970) — 5/10/2009 @ 6:51 pmThe POTUS wishing death on an American citizen who disagrees with him. Anyone need more proof that the POTUS is nothing more than a drugged out street corner hustler. Can’t use the ‘N’ word because he’s half white/half Arab, all ahole.
Scrapiron (996c34) — 5/10/2009 @ 6:54 pmIs there something clever about calling Rush Limgbaugh ‘Boss’ ?
Seems pretty stupid.
Juan (4cdfb7) — 5/10/2009 @ 6:58 pmIf I were in the audience and heard Sykes go after anyone’s children, whether R’s or D’s, I would be very uncomfortable and certainly not laughing. It was tasteless pandering to an audience obviously lacking class. If Sasha and Malia were 18 and unwed mother(s), I would think the same thing: hands-off.
A standing ovation is more a reflection of the standards of the audience firstly, and then the ability of a performer to squarely peg that audience and bar to be met. In this case, it doesn’t speak highly of either.
Dana (4a6e8c) — 5/10/2009 @ 7:02 pmWith that, I wonder why Todd Palin felt he need to attend in place of Sarah Palin? Why would either of them even think that they or their family would be spared? These people who willingly walk into the lion’s den and then get chewed up and spit out have no room to complain. The need to be seen is no excuse for surrendering common sense and discernment.
Dana (4a6e8c) — 5/10/2009 @ 7:10 pmPatterico – Are you saying that million dollar man was the current nom de retard of truth and justice and Ed from PA?
Interesting, because I believe Edpa previously was pantsed on the whole Limbaugh/Fox argument on this very site. His game obviously hasn’t gotten better.
DCSCA remains a joke and merely parrots what he reads on the lefty talking point generating sites.
daleyrocks (5d22c0) — 5/10/2009 @ 7:14 pmWas Wanda on Sanford & Son or is she too young? Pretty soon I think we’ll see the rehabilitation of Rev. Wright the way things are progressing in Washington.
What could go more wrong?
daleyrocks (5d22c0) — 5/10/2009 @ 7:18 pmAs to million dollar man:
He work here is done.
So that’s who that was!
It’s not worth our time to replace TnJ/EdfromPA/mmd’s comments with other verbiage. He’s previously banned, for good reasons, and deserves nothing more than a press of the delete button.
I agree with this statement, Patterico. I merely suggested that by placing “comment deleted” it would be easier for those of us not privvy to everything that goes on here, or who come in late to a discussion.
While I do find this annoying, it is your blog, and I firmly stand behind your right to run it as you please.
Paul (creator of "Staunch Brayer") (1e5911) — 5/10/2009 @ 7:27 pmWas Wanda on Sanford & Son or is she too young?
No, that was LaWanda Page.
Paul (creator of "Staunch Brayer") (1e5911) — 5/10/2009 @ 7:36 pmTMJ/EfP/$5 whore … What is the Leftist’s fascination with sock-puppetry, and why do they insist on going places where they are not wanted or welcome?
JD (03fb69) — 5/10/2009 @ 7:36 pmJD – At least a $5 whore leaves after the transaction is completed.
daleyrocks (5d22c0) — 5/10/2009 @ 8:00 pmSo people tell me, at least.
daleyrocks (5d22c0) — 5/10/2009 @ 8:01 pmIs “Jeffery Diamond” EdfromPA as well?
Scrapiron, just for the record, comments like that are not really helpful. Don’t take a lack of response as support, but rather disgust. There are enough problems with Barack Obama’s leadership that we don’t need people using ridiculous ethnic slurs.
More seriously, you take Wanda Sykes face and press it into dough to make gorilla cookies!
/fred sanford
carlitos (aa025a) — 5/10/2009 @ 8:12 pmThat was just vile. Not a hint of it in the WashPost story on the suckup fest. But the story had space for some wishful disinformation about the event:
For media types, the dinner — staged since 1920 — has become a major schmooze-fest. Outside the Beltway, this stokes public perception of journalists sucking up to the power elite they cover. But the celebrity onslaught, which has become its own yearly tradition, may temper that critique somewhat: The journalists are more likely to be swooning over the star they’ve invited than the politicians they know so well.
You’d like us to believe that, WashPost . . .
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (0ea407) — 5/10/2009 @ 8:31 pmcarlitos – How could you ask if Jeffrey Diamond is Ed from PA? Jeffrey is a real Republican and way smarter than Ed from PA.
daleyrocks (5d22c0) — 5/10/2009 @ 8:32 pmBradley – Sort of like Sally Quinn’s paean about Michelle Obama’s amazing motherly arms in today’s WaPo – gag!
daleyrocks (5d22c0) — 5/10/2009 @ 8:36 pmBest line I heard about that WaPo piece was “Chuck Norris is afraid of Michelle Obama’s arms.”
carlitos (aa025a) — 5/10/2009 @ 8:39 pmNo doubt Boss Limbaugh will dispatch Ms. Sykes back to D-list status again by the end of business Monday. It won’t change the essential truths that tip most comedy barbs toward the right though.
DCSCA (9d1bb3) — 5/10/2009 @ 8:42 pmdaleyrocks,
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (0ea407) — 5/10/2009 @ 8:52 pmEven MO’s Quinn-blessed arms aren’t strong enough to hold up the economy The Precious is tearing down.
Eric:
Great link to “Princess Bride.”
Otherwise, I’m sure the correspondents’ ball was a laff riot.
Unemployment is at 8.9 percent and likely to go higher.
Yuk it up. As if they care.
Ag80 (3a011c) — 5/10/2009 @ 9:19 pmWhen did Limbaugh wish death on Fox… all to the applause of the President?
I think Limbaugh called out Fox’ cheap stunt in a heavy handed manner. Not as heavy handed as Colbert, Sykes, Stewart etc have handled Bristol Palin…
Anyway, Fox gilded the lily as it were and he got called out on it and took a hard hit. Tough. Next time pass on bringing the Hollywood. Nobody wished him dead or savaged his family.
All of the Palin, Limbaugh jokes are so unoriginal and tedious.
I have to say that her Biden riff was funny to me… or did she wish him dead too?
On that track,
Is it too early for Obama to announce his 2012 ticket yet? I think the only people Obama wouldn’t pick over Biden would be Pelosi and Cheney.
By the way, I thought Obama’s jab at Cheney showed his thin skin. Cheney isn’t “well liked” in the polls but his positions against terror and terrorists are respected by most fair minded people as having kept this country safe.
Interesting that Pelosi questioned Cheney’s honesty just the other day…
SteveG (c99c5c) — 5/10/2009 @ 9:29 pmIf having Parkinson’s Disease and your degree of suffering make your opinion on the subject of embryonic stem cells more important then Pope John Paul II and Billy Graham trump Michael Fox completely.
Have Blue (854a6e) — 5/10/2009 @ 10:37 pmhave blue, Michael Fox is a movie star. Therefore he is very sincere and important.
The Pope and Mr Graham Cracker are just preachers.
Juan (4cdfb7) — 5/10/2009 @ 11:34 pmI have seen the TRUTH! I now declare myself to be a Demo-Lefty-LiB! I utterly reject that so-called “Gay Marriage” (not really, but work with me here people!) – marriage! for Gays?! Ha! Jesus says – “Eh,….NOOO!” But I am a DLL now – so you may only gaze upon my loveliness with doe-eyed puppy-love. I also support torture, non-warrant wire-taps and ….um, torture of wiretapped puppies and kittens in Guatanamo Bay Cuba. Ha! How ya like me NOW!….. [cheers, roars of approval] and I reject that Bush guy whose policies I have now adopted as my own! [“did you hear that?” “yeah, he hates Bush too! – Give us Hell Mayor Quimby!”]
So in leaving you I also remind you – NO DIRECT EYE CONTACT!
Californio (6657ce) — 5/10/2009 @ 11:57 pmimagine if pres bush had done that – wish that people who didn’t support him, wanted him to fsil. not only would there have breen headlines such as ‘bush wishes half the american public to die slow painful deaths.’
the blatant hypocrisy on display is unbelievable. let’s hope his policies fail. he’s destroying our country.
ktr (9277d5) — 5/11/2009 @ 12:17 amsorry just woke up. horrible typist at the best of times.
pres bush would have been skewered as being a vindictive recovering alcoholic, who spoke like a red-neck in front of supposed intellectuals thus showing his disdain for the real people in power – if he had said something like that. poor upbringing, his folks raised him with a silver spoon who didn’t care about anyone or who he hurt jumping over them, etc etc.
instead of that, we get a nincompoop who mocks people in the special olympics, folks who attend church regularly (of course that doesn’t include him as he is definitely not a church-goer), hard-working folks who have done nothing, but disagree with his policies. who’s showing a lack of class now? as if THE ONE wasn’t born with a silver spoon to a woman with no morals whatsoever. what an embarrassment. no one questions him. he must have their same interests, funny huh?
this shows how biased the supposed elite are. i hate to think of something happening to this country like ww2, were we to need elites to defend our country. wait, they’d run to france or something and blame what happened on pres bush. a$$hole$. leave then.
ktr (9277d5) — 5/11/2009 @ 12:44 am#95- Mocking Parkinson’s Disease is no cheap stunt.
DCSCA (9d1bb3) — 5/11/2009 @ 12:55 amDCSCA, as far as I’m aware, it was Fox who mocked Parkinson’s by pretending to have symptoms out of control deliberately. Rush simply exposed what essentially was a lie. The mockery was well placed and had a point. Not sure that your mockery of ‘boss limbaugh’ is meant to do more than troll for effect.
Juan (4cdfb7) — 5/11/2009 @ 1:02 am#103- You are unaware. Boss Limbaugh mocked a man who is inflicted with the disease based on what he saw in a TV commercial and displaying the reality of the disease to Congress is no deception. Fox’s own people said the symptoms seen in the commericals were while he was on medication. Boss Limbaugh is a very bad man.
DCSCA (9d1bb3) — 5/11/2009 @ 1:10 am103- re 102.
DCSCA (9d1bb3) — 5/11/2009 @ 1:10 amDCSCA, you don’t seem to be familiar with the situation. You don’t seem to be the sort who is credible, and I trust that people reading your strange views on Rush will give your version of events the credibility it deserves.
If you want more credibility, then you have to earn it, but until then, you aren’t going to convince many people that Rush was wrong to espose Fox’s blatant dishonesty.
Juan (4cdfb7) — 5/11/2009 @ 2:26 am“Boss Limbaugh”
liontooth (c6d5a7) — 5/11/2009 @ 3:44 amSad to see a Olberman sycophant on your blog, Patterico. Talk about the absolute bottom of the barrel!
This excuse for a president has absolutely no class (along with his despicable wife). Just totally classless cretins. We have dumbed the presidency down to used car salesmen quality.
Peg C. (48175e) — 5/11/2009 @ 4:46 amWho are you gonna believe Foghorn Leghorn or Limbaigh?
daleyrocks (5d22c0) — 5/11/2009 @ 5:34 amLimbaugh
daleyrocks (5d22c0) — 5/11/2009 @ 5:35 amLike most or all entertainers using comedy to score political points, Limbaugh has sometimes stepped over the line. But that doesn’t remove from his critics the requirements of basic honesty (wanting the President to fail so that the country will succeed is not the same thing as hoping the country will fail; indeed, it is almost its opposite) and some sense of proportionality (Limbaugh never implied a wish that Michael J. Fox would die).
DWPittelli (2de73b) — 5/11/2009 @ 6:32 amI’ve often found Sykes to be hilarious, primarily during her stints on the Larry David show – but when she reaches into the political arena, she’s usually out of her element. Interesting that before she began her career as an entertainer, she worked for the NSA! True story.
Dmac (1ddf7e) — 5/11/2009 @ 6:59 amIn all your blind devotion to Limbaugh, none of you helps call out Hannity? Hannity volunteered to be water-boarded for charity “for the troops.” Yet, he has wussed out. No mention of Wanda calling him out for [once again] letting our troops down.
By the way, kidney failure doesn’t result in death. It results in dialysis and a transplant from one of you sycophants. I imagine daley would be in the doctor’s office 32 seconds after Rush announced his need for a kidney.
BTW, where’s the link to that book excerpt, daley? I wouldn’t trust your source (man, turnabout IS fair play) until I see the link to NewsMax or Worldnet Daily or Rushlimbaugh.com or wherever you got it. I’m afraid I’m still gonna have to say you ain’t exactly proved your point (especially since “the excerpt” has Fox describing his Congressional testimony and Limbaugh was making fun of him for appearing on the commercial…aren’t facts fun?). So, hop to it with that link.
Meanwhile, let the people who defend Ann Coulter cast the first stone, ’cause it’s just hysterical to call Dhimmicrats terrorists and wish the NY Times building had been blown and Justice Stephens had been poisoned when cute little Annie does it. But, when a terrorist sympathizer does it….well, that’s over the line.
This post and its predictability are about the funniest thing I’ve heard since Colbert shocked them into silence with this:
Not only is that funny, but it makes fun of the press for being idiots and in bed with their sources.
timb (8f04c0) — 5/11/2009 @ 7:02 amPS Nothing on how Limbaugh doesn’t want Obama to fail; he wants his policies to fail?
That is my favorite rhetorical dance of the Limbaugh defender. I mean don’t get me wrong, the defense of his offensive behavior re: Michal J. Fox IS hysterical in its silliness, but, since that bit helped elect McCaskill and Claire became one of the first elected spokesperson of Obama, that means Limbaugh’s inherent cruelty and vile nature actually resulted in getting Obama elected, so I forgive him.
Since he’s busy dragging the Republican party down a well of future electoral defeats as far as the eye can see (please Rush, keep driving the young ‘uns and Hispanics our way), I personally think he’s either a double agent or the most selfish man in the history of the Republican Party. Either way, keep on it, Rushie, your success is my gain.
PS Daley, Mr. Limbaugh just paged in to say he needs another pillow. Chop chop
timb (8f04c0) — 5/11/2009 @ 7:04 amdaleyrocks,
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (0ea407) — 5/11/2009 @ 7:07 amMark Steyn is a worthy sub for Limbaugh; he is an even better radio host than he is a writer. However, I shall be glad to hear El Rushbo again today.
The cheap stunt I was referring to was Fox bringing the Hollywood. Gilding the lily. Whatever you want to call it.
I agree that Limbaugh called Fox out in a heavy handed way.
Once Fox started playing games with his meds to manipulate people and Congress he lost that ABSOLUTE MORAL AUTHORITY… so then he took a hit for adding phony Hollywood BS. The hit was exposing the phony and then the mockery. In my view the mockery went too far, but at least Limbaugh show up at a dinner attended by the President and wish Fox dead to applause and laughter by that President.
People refer to Imus skewering Clinton. I read the transcript. Imusopened with two paragraphs on the Clintons and the proceeded to be a total ass to everyone… particularly the press.
I think Imus wished a pox on ALL their houses and then left.
I’ll reread the Colbert transcript, but if memory serves even the media wasn’t laughing, but at least he wished no one dead.
Truth is that I do not believe Obama’s character and sense of honor is mature.
George Bush met with Cindy Sheehanonce and honored her as a Gold Star mother. Later when she devolved at times into an angry, shrieking, whiny hag she insisted Bush meet with her again. Bush declined to meet and refused to discuss it beyond saying he understood her grief, he honored her sons sacrifice and supporting her freedom of speech and referring to her as a patriot in dissent.
It takes character and a finely honed sense of honor (as well as a high level of self awareness) to be steadfast in the face of angry opposition.
Bush consistently praised his most vitriolic anti war enemies as patriots, even when they acted the opposite.
I do not think Obama’s maturity level and skillset is anywhere near able to show this type of honor and character.
SteveG (c99c5c) — 5/11/2009 @ 7:14 amWait until things get personally tough for him… I think he will fold and lash out inappropriately… unpresidentially.
Obama can dish it out, but he can’t take it.
Sykes was right on one thing… don’t think you are all that on the basketball court when the secret service won’t let anyone foul you
World leaders everywhere are gonna steal Obama’s lunch money in the next 200 days
Liberals have no honor, class or sense of humor.
PCD (02f8c1) — 5/11/2009 @ 7:29 amsince that bit helped elect McCaskill and Claire became one of the first elected spokesperson of Obama, that means Limbaugh’s inherent cruelty and vile nature actually resulted in getting Obama elected, so I forgive him.
Really? Rush did that all by his lonesome? Links, Timmah – that’s what actual lawyers who are competent usually do at this point.
Dmac (1ddf7e) — 5/11/2009 @ 7:32 amSo, hop to it with that link.
I wonder if Timmah even reads his posts before hitting that “submit” button.
Dmac (1ddf7e) — 5/11/2009 @ 7:35 amYou all worship Rush. Admit it. It is true. We all know it. What Rush has to do with Sykes being a vile twat is not really clear, but we are getting used to this.
JD (769f99) — 5/11/2009 @ 7:42 amtimb, as usual your ramblings are fine examples of your dishonesty and hypocrisy.
Glenn Reynolds said it best when he noted “[T]his is shaping up to be the meanest administration since Nixon’s. Only this time, the press is sympathetic to the meanness, and eager to join in. . .”
SPQR (72771e) — 5/11/2009 @ 7:57 amI don’t know how anyone at all can quote that bit from Colbert:
And NOT think of the current Press Corps.
Why, it’s an…enchanting thought!
Eric Blair (34f123) — 5/11/2009 @ 7:59 amDid I mention a thrill running down someone’s leg? While getting that conference call from Axelrod?
It’s the Press Corpse, I guess.
Eric Blair (34f123) — 5/11/2009 @ 8:00 amGood one, EB!
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R., (9e2548) — 5/11/2009 @ 8:01 amEric, at least Obama recognizes the role of the press for his administration, as witnessed by one of the jokes he made at the event. He lead off the joke by mentioning that since all of them voted for him…
timb, as usual your ramblings
More like rantings – “full of the hate and bile you’ve always loved, but substance – free as well!”
Dmac (1ddf7e) — 5/11/2009 @ 8:03 amPresident Jester.
htom (412a17) — 5/11/2009 @ 8:04 amBradley, there are some journalists that aren’t cheerleaders. You try to make up your own mind about things. Jake Tapper isn’t bad, either.
And neither of you are mouth breathing Rethuglicans.
On the other hand, Mr. Tapper apparently did go out on a date with Monica Lewinsky once. Eeew.
Eric Blair (34f123) — 5/11/2009 @ 8:06 amDmac, are you sure the President was actually making a joke? After all, he won.
Eric Blair (34f123) — 5/11/2009 @ 8:06 amDCSCA
Corwin (84cdf4) — 5/11/2009 @ 8:09 amA couple of gentle bitch slaps to you.First,my caveat;I’ve only listened to Mr Limbaugh twice (too busy)-but he certainly seemed to make his program interesting.I don’t know if MJ Fox was paid to do a Parkinson’s commercial ( Please help) but Americans naturally cut lots of slack to people with terrrible diseases.Even before the latest baby momma disclosures,I heard people -admittedly they were Liberal Arts majors -referring to Eliz Edwards as ‘brilliant’.And very few even now are chastising her for attempting to deceive the country re’ John’s “goodness”
Now,I do know Mr Limbaugh has donated large sums of money (millions) for charitable causes.
I’d like to ask a couple of q’s.
In the Catholic tradition St Peter judges who is a good man.since you consider Mr Limbauugh a “very bad man”,where would you assign, say Sen Edw. Kennedy?
Is Bill o’ Reilly another “very bad person”
And ,’re’ charitable donations.I understand Mr Limbauugh makes a lot of money.But there have been so many stories re’ Democrats tiny donations until they have to release a record.(See Sen Kerry,VP Biden,Pres Obie).Would you tell me your per cent of income donated?
Finally,if you attended college,your major.
PS-I’ll tell you mine;6%
Why that is just racist, Corwin.
JD (769f99) — 5/11/2009 @ 8:15 amCorwin, I see your point, but you are wasting your time. For one thing, why believe a troll who has…um…made many, many outlandish claims in the past? So why ask?
And he will start in with the personal insults, too. He might even attack your spelling, and if we are lucky, he will misspell something in his snark at you about it.
I like your approach, though. Jung wrote “You are what you do, not what you say you will do.” No matter what any of us posts on the Internet.
Eric Blair (34f123) — 5/11/2009 @ 8:19 amBy the way, kidney failure doesn’t result in death. It results in dialysis and a transplant from one of you sycophants. I imagine daley would be in the doctor’s office 32 seconds after Rush announced his need for a kidney.
Tim, your descent into trolldom continues unabated. Do you know the mortality rate of dialysis patients ? Do you know the most common cause of death for dialysis patients ? Of course you don’t.
It is suicide.
Go back to law school and try to learn some maturity. When you fail, it is time to graduate and inflict yourself on a world that has enough negative news. Your appearance as a lawyer will be one more piece of it.
Mike K (90939b) — 5/11/2009 @ 8:35 amI hope Rush Limbaugh’s kidneys fail. If he hates America and wants to see America fail. But if he means well, I wish him well. 🙂
The Emperor7 (0c8c2c) — 5/11/2009 @ 8:45 amThe best info about health care comes from politically motivated fledgling lawyers with no medical experience whatsoever.
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R., (9e2548) — 5/11/2009 @ 8:47 amActually, Bradley, I took timb’s comment about kidney failure as meaning that my father in law’s death from complications of kidney failure 3 years ago just did not really happen. You know, all my imagination.
SPQR (72771e) — 5/11/2009 @ 8:50 amSPQR,
I’m sorry about your father-in-law.
Mike K. wrote a fascinating vignette in his book about the first kidney transplant. It was temporary, because there were no anti-rejection drugs in those days. The kidney was transplanted to the interior of the woman’s forearm and the ureter left to drain into a basin. Comotose and near death at the time, she began to recover consciousness and was fully alert in a day or two.
After several days, rejection began and the kidney was removed. But shortly thereafter her own kidneys began working again and she recovered completely.
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R., (9e2548) — 5/11/2009 @ 9:05 amI DID think of the press corps vis a vis Obama and Bush. They are not exactly good, Eric, and haven’t been for a long time. Note how I followed it with
timb (a83d56) — 5/11/2009 @ 9:16 amMike, I believe I referenced a transplant. Rush wouldn’t be on dialysis long from his self-caused harm.
The judgment of other poster is somewhat lacking, since they apparently believe Wanda Sykes’s desires and jokes cause kidney failure. You might want to educate them re: cause and effects of drug abuse.
Then again, the whole comment was a set-up for me to tease daley, so the fact that y’all took it as seriously as you did Ms. Sykes’s jokes only made me giggle.
Seriously, do any of you ever laugh at anything you hear on the ol’ TV? Didn’t you laugh when she took her shots at Obama? *
*Of course not, because none of you watched the whole bit; you were just led around by the outrage masters. How different from normal.
timb (a83d56) — 5/11/2009 @ 9:27 amThe press gives Barcky another standing “O”. He is the greaterest most bestest President EVAh !!!!!!!
JD (769f99) — 5/11/2009 @ 9:30 am#138
The Emperor7 (1b037c) — 5/11/2009 @ 9:53 amThe first accurate thing you’ve said in ages, JD. Keep it coming. Obama rocks! 🙂
I love how the trolls are piling on here, as though this is their chance to really ‘get us’. They actually like this stupid worship crap. How amazing.
Juan (4cdfb7) — 5/11/2009 @ 10:00 amJuan is an astute observer of jd’s remarks.
Nonetheless, none of the righties here want Sean Hannity to live up to his commitment to “help the troops.” Oh, well, can’t say I’m surprised
timb (a83d56) — 5/11/2009 @ 10:06 amThe Leftists are in rare form the last couple weeks. That is a sure sign that Barcky is not nearly as successful as they would hope. See JD’s 1st Rule of Trolls.
JD (769f99) — 5/11/2009 @ 10:11 amTroll= Anyone who disagrees with my myopic world.
The Emperor7 (1b037c) — 5/11/2009 @ 10:12 amNo, TheEmperor7, that’s false and you know it.
SPQR (72771e) — 5/11/2009 @ 10:14 amI hear that they ban the commentators who house the ‘regulars’ on this site. Is this true? Did you, patterico, want to explain why the site deleted a pivotal link in the fox v. limbaugh argument in which fox himself explains the medication issue?
jupiterlives (60bd69) — 5/11/2009 @ 10:15 amSPQR – They like to make up their own definitions of words. It is what they do.
JD (769f99) — 5/11/2009 @ 10:18 amJupiterlives – That is absolutely not true. A lie, if you will. Sock puppets of people that have been previously banned were deleted. SHOCKA
JD (769f99) — 5/11/2009 @ 10:21 amTo back up JD, it’s Patterico’s house, and Patterico’s rules.
It takes some serious work to get banned here—so why try to come back and troll?
It’s a rhetorical question.
Eric Blair (34f123) — 5/11/2009 @ 10:27 amjupiterlives, can you please post the audiotape of the Rush Limbaugh show where we hear him shaking around and get offended. I still can’t figure that out. It won’t get deleted, I promise.
carlitos (aa025a) — 5/11/2009 @ 10:28 amof course, the odds that jupiterlives is a sockpuppet of a previously banned sockpuppet?
SPQR (72771e) — 5/11/2009 @ 10:31 amUm. “None” is a pretty strong word. I’ll leave the dismissive “righties” bit alone.
I think Sean Hannity should volunteer for waterboarding, just as he himself suggested. Christopher Hitchens did it, and reported on it.
If Mr. Hannity does do it, I fully expect timb and some of the other harsh sounding brothers and sisters of the Left to contribute to charity in solidarity. Fair enough?
I read somewhere, in fact, that more Western journalists have been waterboarded for research purposes than terrorists under interrogation. I wonder if that is true. I’ll bet it is. And I know that SEALs get waterboarded as part of their training.
Again, it is seldom a good idea to complain about generalized statements by making one.
Eric Blair (34f123) — 5/11/2009 @ 10:33 amHmmm … you guys want me to drop of some Troll Motels?
i’ll buy the delux three room suite editions.;-)
BJTexs (56337a) — 5/11/2009 @ 10:34 amTroll: Anyone who persists in any effort to prove me wrong by providing annoying (but true) evidence.
Troll: Anyone who wishes that Rush Limbaugh’s kidneys fail, if he wishes ill on Americans.
Troll: Anyone who voted for Obama. Dem or Rep.
The Emperor7 (1b037c) — 5/11/2009 @ 10:40 amTheEmperor7, more falsehoods and you know it.
SPQR (72771e) — 5/11/2009 @ 10:41 am#128- Gee, Boss Limbaugh tries to buy peace of mind after mocking Fox’s affliction. Great tax write off. Boss Limbaugh is a bad man and your reply is to smear Edward Kennedy and Elizabeth Edwards, both with terminal illnesses and both of who have paid dearly for their mistakes and imperfect lives yet led constructive lives too compared to narcissist Boss Limbaugh. Another bad person may lurk in your own mirror. Look hard, “bitch slapper,” a phrase you seem at home using. For a good person doesnt need to advertise the magnitude of their generosity unless they’re trying to convince others– or themselve of they’re own shortcomings. How bad do you feel? Apparently 6%.
DCSCA (9d1bb3) — 5/11/2009 @ 10:42 amFifteen.
Eric Blair (34f123) — 5/11/2009 @ 10:44 amDCSCA, “smear” ? Are you claiming that the observation that Elizabeth Edwards lied to the american people about her husband’s character is false? I’m looking forward to you proving it.
Although, given your track record on factual statements, I know you won’t.
SPQR (72771e) — 5/11/2009 @ 10:47 amAm I a troll, SPQR?
The Emperor7 (1b037c) — 5/11/2009 @ 10:48 amEB, are you doing what I think you’re doing?
carlitos (aa025a) — 5/11/2009 @ 10:49 amEven after the MD 20/20 wears off the day after, ASPCA is still spitting out the same drivel.
How has Sen. Kennedy paid dearly for his allowing someone to drown in the car he drove off a bridge?
What mistake of Elizabeth Edwards are you referring too? Marrying a douchenozzle?
JD (6994a8) — 5/11/2009 @ 10:49 amTheEmperor7, at times you exhibit troll behaviors such as your #143 and #153 comments. Those are not contributions to the discussion and you know it.
SPQR (72771e) — 5/11/2009 @ 10:51 amWell, carlitos, I think it is important to have a tally. I mean, since Republicans are so jingoistic and just repeat slogans. Don’t you agree?
Eric Blair (34f123) — 5/11/2009 @ 10:51 amNo, lovie, not usually. Though at times you show tendencies.
JD (6994a8) — 5/11/2009 @ 10:53 amIt is, quite literally, the definition of projection for someone to immediately adopt and use David Axelrod / Mediamatters / Keith Olbermann’s phrase of choice with such faithful repetition, while at the same time accusing vast swaths of people who disagree of doing the same vis a vis Limbaugh. But, given the other mental deficiencies exhibited, I won’t be playing the game.
carlitos (aa025a) — 5/11/2009 @ 11:06 amThat is why they get so angry about the P word, carlitos.
Eric Blair (34f123) — 5/11/2009 @ 11:08 am160 Conventional wisdom might state that Fat Teddy’s “accident” cost him the Imperial Presidency and a Camelot betwixt JFK’s and the Greatest- Ear Leader. Too bad Papa Joe could not contain the story. Given the way the media is now for Obama, one wonders what if, had they all wanted to fellate Fat Teddy.
Yes, Elizabeth made a “mistake” in covering for the Breck Girl, knowing full well he was banging his PR lady while campaigning as a nominee. Does anyone doubt she would have quiet had he garnered the nomination or been Duh-1’s running mate? Ah, but the way he looks at her now makes her feel like a million bucks. And he can channel dead kids too.
aoibhneas (a55c11) — 5/11/2009 @ 11:08 amI think this blog will be less interesting without a little trollishness, don’t you think? Like DCSCA. He is so fixated on Rush Limbaugh that I find it very amusing.
The Emperor7 (1b037c) — 5/11/2009 @ 11:24 amYou prolly burn ants with a magnifying glass too, lovie.
JD (6994a8) — 5/11/2009 @ 11:26 am#168
The Emperor7 (1b037c) — 5/11/2009 @ 11:33 amHow do you mean?
none of the righties here want Sean Hannity to live up to his commitment
For the last time – many people here don’t listen to Rush OR Hannity, and some (including myself) think Hannity an obnoxious loudmouth bore most of the time. Stop painting with such a ludicrous broad brush, or we’ll start calling you Ten Cent Head.
Dmac (1ddf7e) — 5/11/2009 @ 11:40 amBut Dmac, it is so much easier to be a troll when you see your “opponents” as bumper stickers.
Eric Blair (34f123) — 5/11/2009 @ 11:49 am#170- Anything you say, Dittohead.
DCSCA (9d1bb3) — 5/11/2009 @ 11:50 amI wonder if anyone has ever pointed out to lovie (and our all-cap friend) that “it is better to remain silent and apprear the fool, than to opine and remove all doubt”?
AD - RtR/OS! (b782d3) — 5/11/2009 @ 11:54 am#156- No, ‘Urgartti,’ the letters of transit are just for two.
DCSCA (9d1bb3) — 5/11/2009 @ 11:55 amI love the way you continue to insist that your original spelling mistake—you have shown repeatedly that you have problems in this area—was intentional and oh so witty.
You are half-right about being a wit.
Why not join Million Dollar Man on a sabbatical? You are tedious, mean spirited, and not funny at all.
But then, you are just a bumper sticker.
Eric Blair (34f123) — 5/11/2009 @ 12:03 pm#175- You are half-right about being a wit. <- Said a wholly-right twit, in 140 characters or less.
DCSCA (9d1bb3) — 5/11/2009 @ 12:23 pm“Eric”, I must have missed your “yeah, tim, that’s too bad hannity’s a liar and a loudmouth bore” when you were supposedly correcting me for not abusing the national media.
I mean, a short “oh, I missed that, tim, they are pansies who curry favor with liars so they can buy houses on Martha’s Vineyard, the Hamptons and Boca Raton and then write about great Buffalo was when they were inspirational social climbers. By the way, you shouldn’t….[segue into Hannity critique]” would have been nice. Then, again, fairness at all would be nice.
See, you decry the “tactics” of the skeptics in your midst, yet your relentless and unremitting criticism is never meted out with the dispassionate discussion of issues you so lloooonnnnngggg for “us” to have.
For instance, my comments cannot go unremarked for their “lack of civility” and “anger,” whereas some commenters post nothing but vitriol and somehow manage to escape the ravages of your pen.
In fact, the first time I see criticism of dmac for unending hostility, dj for calling Ms. Sykes a “twat,” or debunker man’s venom spitting at every opportunity and CONSTANTLY accusations to anyone he disagrees with of “lying” will be a moment of such wonder and awe for me it might rival the 11:00 pm (EDT) moment on Election Night. I won’t hold my breath, but I expect someone so well-prepared to preach might listen to his own sermon once.
timb (a83d56) — 5/11/2009 @ 12:24 pmWait. Was that supposed to be clever?
I would normally say “keep practicing,” but I would rather you just stayed away from insults, bumper sticker repetitiveness, and snark…or just plain stayed away.
Eric Blair (34f123) — 5/11/2009 @ 12:26 pmJust wanted to know how far the the supposed academic rigor and dispassion you were willing to throw around. Got it, you’re a partisan hack who only lectures dissenting voices on manners.*
*Really, it’s what I already witnessed, but it was interesting to get it out there and watch you descend from your alleged pinnacle. I fancy one more push and you’d be typing curses and telling me where to stick it and there would be no difference between you and the haters.
nice doing business with you.
timb (a83d56) — 5/11/2009 @ 12:35 pmUm. First, timb, the post above at #178 is for the bumperstickerist. Still, the Hannity thing is getting tiresome, just as the “Boss Limbaugh” repetitive nonsense looks like output from an old BASIC program like PARRY. You really need to quit posting that everyone likes or dislikes a person or idea, based on a few things that people write here. You are more complicated than that. So are other people. You know all that, I’m certain.
Secondly, the point I have repeatedly made to you is that if you don’t descend to personal insults, you will stop receiving them eventually. The “everybody does it to me, so it is okay that I do it, and besides, why don’t you get made at them” defense is beneath you, and I mean that without rancor. I don’t fight with you, and you have been pretty angry with me.
So take a breath.
Just as you and DCSCA post things to get other people to yell back at you electronically (or so it sure looks), some of the other posters are doing the same to you.
You have made it clear that you believe that your point of view is superior. So prove it, with reason and civility—and by your example. You are trying to do that with your Constitutional argument, though you couldn’t help the “can’t read” thing, which is not going to elevate learning or understanding.
Yeah, yeah, I am trying to tell people what to do. Sigh. I am just suggesting. I don’t like all the rancor. I like trolls less.
A troll posts just to argue, and isn’t interested in what other people think or believe. It’s a juvenile game, or a way of feeling strong and powerful in a safe manner.
Several posters think you are a troll. I hope you are not.
You can do whatever you like, of course. But you have, from time to time, written to me without insult. Trolls can’t bring them themselves to do that.
Again, it is up to you. And as I have written to you before, I wish you well.
Eric Blair (34f123) — 5/11/2009 @ 12:37 pmCrap, Eric, that (178) wasn’t meant for me!
Damn, here I was acting like I expected you to say something like that, when you were addressing DCSCA. I feel more chagrin (and a little humbled, but just a little) than usual.
If you’re going to be dismissive of 177, could just re-read 179 after you hit “submit”? If you’re going to discuss 177, then I take back 179.
timb (a83d56) — 5/11/2009 @ 12:41 pmI don’t want to fight with anyone, timb, to be honest.
Thank you for your post. That means a great deal to me.
Eric Blair (34f123) — 5/11/2009 @ 12:44 pmtimb comes here and unintentionally puts the boot to it’s own argument. Even The One agrees with the crack about everyone voting for him. Good job, Timmuh.
As to DCSCA, once one lies and admits it in the public policy arena one normally exits public policy. The fact that Fox is still used after lying to Congress says all you need to know about the press who can refer to Fox going forward ONLY if they fail to inform the public about his attempt to manipulate the Congress. And that’s one of the reasons this type of lying requires an exist – the press has to cover for you. The other reason? If you’ll lie and manipulate once for public policy reasons, don’t we have to assume you’ll do so again? Why should DCSCA believe your denials (not that Fox has to make denials given the press rolling over and allowing him to ‘retire’ his lie), Mr. Fox? Besides the fact that DCSCA is a liar himsel………..suddenly it becomes clear.
EBJ (2fd7f7) — 5/11/2009 @ 1:17 pmWhy are you so hate and anger filled, Eric and EBJ ?
JD (06f82d) — 5/11/2009 @ 1:21 pmI won’t hold my breath
Neither will we regarding a source, heck – any source to base your rants upon.
Dmac (1ddf7e) — 5/11/2009 @ 1:35 pm“Keep grinning, Barry!”
And keep up the, um, good, I guess I’ll have to go with good work Patterico. A few more nails, and the lid on conservatism as a viable world view will be firmly nailed shut.
TB (7387cc) — 5/11/2009 @ 3:33 pmTB, good job of commenting without substance.
SPQR (72771e) — 5/11/2009 @ 3:34 pmSPQR, good job of ruining the country.
TB (7387cc) — 5/11/2009 @ 3:53 pmtimb, you say that none of the righties here want Sean to live up to his ‘help the troops’ initiative, whatever that is.
I assure you that I am both right wing and want Sean to live up to whatever promises he has made to help the troops.
You’re a liar to claim that anyone here doesn’t want that.
DCSCA is still going nuts over Limbaugh. I haven’t heard him for a few weeks, but Limbaugh appears to be ruling over DCSCA’s life. How pathetic. I cannot imagine how that is healthy.
Juan (4cdfb7) — 5/11/2009 @ 3:59 pmTB, yep I did it all by myself just to show my loyalty to Darth Cheney.
SPQR (72771e) — 5/11/2009 @ 4:00 pmtimb – I understand why you felt a need to shift the goalposts to Hannity.
It’s OK, really.
daleyrocks (5d22c0) — 5/11/2009 @ 4:02 pmI would LOVE to compare the $$$ donated by, and raised by Hannity and Rush vs. Olberdouchenozzle and MadCow. Throw in TB on their side as well.
JD (06f82d) — 5/11/2009 @ 4:13 pmJuan – Foghorn Leghorn keeps persisting with his claims that Rush was mocking Fox, but Limbaugh denies it. Who would you believe? The mockery doesn’t come through on the audio, how the vast majority of people consume Limbaugh, so what is the evidence?
I suppose Foghorn Leghhorn would claim the studio cam of the relevant broadcast. Do we have an in depth comparison of this broadcast to Limbaugh’s demeanor on other days to make an unbiased determination whether it was different during his segment on Michael J. Fox? I’m pretty damn sure the progtards commenting here have no clue what he looks like in the studio on a daily basis to make such judgements, so how do they arrive at their conclusions? My guess is that they rely on some “neutral” arbiter such as Media Matters or TPM or Daily Kos. Yup, Foghorn’s video analysis of this was as good as his video analysis of the Chicago Tea Party on April 15 when he claimed to see a guy with an infant on his shoulder yelling fascist at a CNN reporter. In fact he’s got it on tape at home, but for some reason cannot get it to Patterico to upload it to the blog. He accidentally erased it or something. Double Heh!
daleyrocks (5d22c0) — 5/11/2009 @ 4:13 pmtimb – Hannity agrees to get waterboarded and Olbermann agrees to only have guests on his show who agree with him?
What was your point?
daleyrocks (5d22c0) — 5/11/2009 @ 4:15 pmHitchens at the dinner and commenting on Wanda Sykes,
“The president should be squirming in his seat. Not smiling,” he said. “The black dyke got it wrong. No one told her the rules.”
Dana (4a6e8c) — 5/11/2009 @ 5:56 pm“The black dyke got it wrong. No one told her the rules.”
Hitchens’ homophobia is SO funny!
TB (7387cc) — 5/11/2009 @ 6:00 pmHow, exactly, is that homophobic?
JD (06f82d) — 5/11/2009 @ 6:09 pmProlly racist too …
JD (06f82d) — 5/11/2009 @ 6:22 pmDoes TB stand for tuberculosis?
Dmac (1ddf7e) — 5/11/2009 @ 7:00 pmBrendan Nyhan has the proper words for Sykes and her leftist apologists:
The hypocrisy here is staggering (especially in the Media Matters case). Imagine that a conservative comedian had accused Keith Olbermann of treason at the WHCA dinner back in 2004 and said he should be waterboarded. Would liberals have minimized the comments as “jokes” and catalogued all the offensive things Olbermann has said on his show? I don’t think so.
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (0ea407) — 5/11/2009 @ 7:10 pmBrother Bradley – If Brendan is banging on them, it is worse than they thought.
JD (06f82d) — 5/11/2009 @ 7:18 pmIn the most absurd fantasies had against Bush, they didn’t dream of Rush laughing that Dan Rather should be tortured and killed while bush nodded and laughed and then told the press that they all support him.
Even their twisted version of Bush wasn’t that ridiculous. But Obama is.
And that’s why we see so much anger directed at rush limbaugh in this thread… attacking him is the only move that doesn’t bring up Obama’s shitty behavior.
Juan (4cdfb7) — 5/11/2009 @ 11:19 pmObama’s shitty behavior.
Comment by Juan — 5/11/2009 @ 11:19 pm
The Emperor7 (0c8c2c) — 5/12/2009 @ 1:51 amWhat “shitty” behavior are you referring to?
I find it curious that Wanda Sykes who made most of her act (out of the WHCD) about her drug and alcohol abuse, would have the nerve to attack someone else for their alleged drug abuse. Aren’t libs supposed to be compassionate and non judgmental especially when they have engaged in the conduct in question? Wasn’t the WHCD gig supposed to be about lampooning THOSE IN POWER, last time I checked neither Rush nor Cheney, nor anyone else that the democraps or Sykes viciously lampooned were in power, and the jokes of the people in power that were lampooned with a wet noodle if they were democraps. No afflicting the comfortable if they’re democraps, no speaking truth to power, if they’re democraps. Further, as a gay rights speaker, it is shameful that Sykes did not ‘get in Obama’s face’ on gay marriage or firing the gay Arabic translator, since she pledged to get in everyone’s face who were against gay marriage. Imagine the courage it would have been for Wanda to face Obama and tell him off, (like she would have told off Carrie Prejean on her similar position against gay marriage). But Sykes was a COWARD. She blew her opportunity, because gay rights is secondary to sucking up to Obama. She wants a Lincoln Bedroom gig and being invited to lib cocktail parties, ant that only happens if you trash conservatives and praise liberal democraps.
eaglewingz08 (d65d27) — 5/12/2009 @ 4:23 ameaglewingz08 – That’s why Hitchens’s line was on target. Obama is so thin-skinned though, people chickened out from the traditional model of roasting the current President.
daleyrocks (5d22c0) — 5/12/2009 @ 5:19 amYou have to ask, JD?
How is the color of her skin or her sexual orientation at all related to the subject of the post? It has nothing to do with the post, so why would the statement include ‘black dyke’? I wouldn’t have made a comment about Jerry Falwell with something like “that straight, white guy sure is backwards!”. It doesn’t make sense. The answer, then, becomes that including that the information provided is seen as diminutive. At least, in some circles this is true. So, when somebody posts a comment such as this on a site and none of the other participants recognize this as a racist comment, it therefore confirms the notion that this information is indeed pertinent to the argument (in their eyes). Thus, those who read that comment and did not immediately call into question the relevance of such a statement regarding her skin color or sexual orientation indeed found it to be part of the argument against that individual. So, basically any individual who does not see the racism in that statement therefore confirms that calling someone black is a valid argument against that person. Seems to me that that is the very definition of racism.
tomthumb (4d8e2c) — 5/12/2009 @ 11:03 amWhile I disagree that calling someone a ‘dyke’ is ‘homophobic’, it most certainly is bigoted and should be deleted by our esteemed host, for the same reasons I have already given regarding her race. There is no reason for the advocacy of such hate speech in a forum such as this.
So making a crude comment about someone’s sexuality is hate speech. What, then, is hoping someone would die?
Steverino (69d941) — 5/12/2009 @ 11:12 amSteve,
You sound like a child reasoning with his mother that the other child hit him first. Didn’t your mother ever teach you that two wrongs don’t make a right? I would urge you to extract yourself from the mud pit, clean yourself off, and never set foot in it again. If you’re a Christian man you won’t have any trouble finding passages that confirm this lifestyle in the Bible.
tomthumb (4d8e2c) — 5/12/2009 @ 11:16 amGood point, Steverino. Hitchens put things into context. A person who wishes death upon another just because of politics has lost any moral standing to complain about a slur.
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R., (fab096) — 5/12/2009 @ 11:17 amI am intrigued that you can find any reason to explain away racism and bigotry, Brad. It is most certainly disappointing.
tomthumb (4d8e2c) — 5/12/2009 @ 11:20 amYou haven’t answered my question. And I’m not the guy who used the slur. Go take it up with him. For the record, I don’t use words like that.
I just want to know if wishing death on someone is better or worse than using a crude term about someone’s sexuality.
What mud pit? Again, I’m not the one who made the comment. I just think it’s curious that you climbed up onto your high horse about the word “dyke”, but don’t seem so scandalized that someone wished death on a person simply because of his political views.
Steverino (69d941) — 5/12/2009 @ 11:25 amtomthumb,
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R., (fab096) — 5/12/2009 @ 11:26 amYou have just proved my point. You get all exercised about a sexual slur, but where is your outrage about the far greater slur of wishing someone dead? Isn’t that far more hateful?
Sykes, who is a black and gay, wishes Rush Limbaugh to die. Hitchens describes her accurately, if crudely, and that is hate speech. You get what you give sometimes. I know that two wrongs dont make a right, but I think that tomthumb’s outrage is misplaced.
carlitos (aa025a) — 5/12/2009 @ 11:28 amtomthumb,
You wonder why JD had to ask, then you say, “While I disagree that calling someone a ‘dyke’ is ‘homophobic’”? You act like he was silly to even ask, then you agree with him. All this in reference to a quote someone referenced and that wasn’t made here, but it somehow condemns the site because everyone didn’t immediately renounce that comment to your satisfaction and proves that we’re all bigots. Good luck with that argument.
Watch the video and see how hateful she was towards someone who wasn’t even there. I would have gotten heated too (except that I wouldn’t be caught dead at that type of function).
Stashiu3 (460dc1) — 5/12/2009 @ 11:28 amYour question to me suggests that the Ms. Sykes’ joke warranted the response that was given.
For the record, I found that calling someone a ‘black dyke’ is racist. I also believe that wishing death on someone was completely out of bounds. I am just curious why someone like JD would require an explanation as to why that statement was racist. It is quite obvious why the statement was racist, and the fact that that was not seen by JD calls into question his own viewpoints on race.
tomthumb (4d8e2c) — 5/12/2009 @ 11:29 amIf I had been there, I’d have walked out.
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R., (fab096) — 5/12/2009 @ 11:29 amStash:
I disagree that the statement is homophobic. Calling someone a dyke does not necessarily suggest that a person is ‘afraid’ of homosexuals. The comment, however, is steeped in racism and bigotry. In JD’s comment he poked fun at the possibility that someone would consider that comment racist. It should be completely, 100% obvious that the sstatement was racist.
tomthumb (4d8e2c) — 5/12/2009 @ 11:31 amtomthumb,
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R., (fab096) — 5/12/2009 @ 11:33 amYou did it again. You “also” believe wishing death on someone is out of bounds, while spending most of your time on a far lesser offense. Hitchens said what he did to make people think about what is truly offensive.
dyke does not equal homophobic
black dyke equals racist
I’m trying to follow you. Is “black president” racist too? “black liberal?”
carlitos (aa025a) — 5/12/2009 @ 11:34 amI did not state anything of the sort. I am just questioning why you’re in high dudgeon about one and not the other.
I’ll repeat the question. Which is worse: to make a crude comment on someone’s sexuality or to wish death on a person because of his political views? If they are of equal moral footing, please explain why.
Completely out of bounds…but not hate speech.
If wishing death on someone is worse, why isn’t what Wanda Sykes did called “hate speech”?
Steverino (69d941) — 5/12/2009 @ 11:39 amI have never seen so many racist, bigotted, white supremacist, xenophobic, jingoistic gun-clingers in my life. I hope your kidneys all pack up you narcissists!
The Emperor7 (0c8c2c) — 5/12/2009 @ 12:00 pmIf wishing death on someone is worse, why isn’t what Wanda Sykes did called “hate speech”?
Comment by Steverino — 5/12/2009 @ 11:39 am
Does kidney failure always result in death?
The Emperor7 (0c8c2c) — 5/12/2009 @ 12:09 pmHey carlitos, you wrote:
The more interesting question is from what ISP provider this “new” person has originated. If you know what I mean, and I think you do.
Sock, meet puppet. Look at the language and punctuation used.
Oh, I could be wrong, of course.
Eric Blair (262ccd) — 5/12/2009 @ 12:14 pmEric,
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R., (fab096) — 5/12/2009 @ 12:21 pmGiven how completely Patterico exposed the sock puppetry of Hiltzik and Greenwald, I’d bet the half-life of any such puppet will be very short.
Oh Geez. “If you’re a Christian man,” The Bible passages, the faux outrage over something silly, knowing that we refer to patterico as “our esteemed host” even though it’s “his” first comment here ever…
carlitos (aa025a) — 5/12/2009 @ 12:27 pmNo; for that matter, neither does getting shot. But to a casual listener, wishing that someone gets shot is equivalent to wishing that person woud die.
If you insist on such pedantry, is wishing a life-threatening medical condition on someone because of his political views worse than making a crude comment about someone’s sexuality?
Steverino (69d941) — 5/12/2009 @ 12:34 pmComment by Steverino — 5/12/2009 @ 12:34 pm
Just step over it, or around it, Steverino. Trust me.
nk (755c01) — 5/12/2009 @ 12:49 pmNk, I’m wearing old shoes, and in a pretty foul mood, so I don’t care what I step in today 🙂
Steverino (69d941) — 5/12/2009 @ 1:37 pmThe questions just went over the little guy’s head it seemed, tom thumb I mean.
Oops, does that make me sizist?
Did Wanda begin her routine on Saturday by introducing herself as black and gay the way she usually does? Anybody know?
Hitchens was prolly just trying to make sure people knew which dyke he was talking about. Washington is crawling with white dykes, yellow dykes, brown dykes, bull dykes, you name it.
daleyrocks (5d22c0) — 5/12/2009 @ 3:32 pmReally, technically just what is Ear Leader’s race? Is Duh-1 considered an octaroon or ? The dude is 1/2 White due to his drug addled flowerchild mama and his daddy was 2/3 Arab and 1/3 Black. Doesn’t that make the Messiah predominately white? I look at his character which is rather lacking and he really has such empathy for his own relatives. Doesn’t that cousin in Kenya struggle on $1 a month? And dear illegal auntie in Boston lives in public hosuing while the cheap ass mofo made millions last year?
aoibhneas (e90d08) — 5/12/2009 @ 3:34 pmOne of Wanda’s classics concerns a huge turd in the back of car in the junkyard. But no classy dame is she. And just how big an arse does the marvelous Michelle possess? So why aren’t O’s college transcripts available? Why does he stand in the way of equal rights for gays who wish to marry? Why ask why? The media adores him, the black Abe Lincoln.
And, don’t forget the dikes that hold the Potomic away from the Monuments and The Mall – they actually contribute something!
AD - RtR/OS! (3eaf60) — 5/12/2009 @ 3:35 pmwishing that someone gets shot is equivalent to wishing that person woud die.
If you insist on such pedantry, is wishing a life-threatening medical condition on someone because of his political views worse than making a crude comment about someone’s sexuality?
Comment by Steverino — 5/12/2009 @ 12:34 pm
Wishing someone gets shot is not the same as wishing him death. You ought to know that seeing how smart you are. Renal failure is not a death sentence. There are many survivors of kidney transplant. And to answer your question, I would say wishing someone some sickness is not sign of good behavior. Neither is making derogatory comments about one’s sexuality. They are both wrong.
The Emperor7 (1b037c) — 5/12/2009 @ 4:15 pmObtuseness is a social disease, not curable/treatable with anti-biotics.
AD - RtR/OS! (3eaf60) — 5/12/2009 @ 4:22 pmComment by aoibhneas — 5/12/2009 @ 3:34 pm
The Emperor7 (1b037c) — 5/12/2009 @ 4:29 pmThe more he speaks, the less he speaks.
Tomthumb is a racist. And a homophobe.
JD (b9ca6b) — 5/12/2009 @ 4:34 pmResponding to lovey increases your carbon footprint and destroys brain cells. If those cells are hers, carry on. Moral equivalence arguments only work for progressives, mostly because everything is equivalent in their world except conservative principles. Those are just wrong.
If someone were to hope that [insert random lovey-friendly celebrity/politician of your choice here… I don’t want anyone shot or killed] would get shot, I’m sure lovey would assume that in that particular case it was a call for their assassination. Because of the nuance. Ignore her.
Stashiu3 (460dc1) — 5/12/2009 @ 4:35 pm“tomthumb” no existe, JD.
carlitos (aa025a) — 5/12/2009 @ 4:43 pmI mean, they are breath-taking in their idiocy, hypocrisy, and general mendoucheousness. Is it racist to say that Barcky is the 1st black President, or the 1st half-white President? The use of dyke may have been a bit crude, but that is so far from making it homophobic. So far that it renders the term homophobic practically meaningless. Should Hitch have called her yellow? Blue? Polka Dot? Again, your moronic use of the racism card effectively renders the word meaningless. Thank you for providing such a clear example of the mushy-headed thinking, scratch that, feeling that too many engage in.
Racists
JD (b9ca6b) — 5/12/2009 @ 4:44 pmRespectfully, I think that is a copout JD. In the specific case in which you were referring to President Obama as the first black president, you are using the term black as an adjective in a positive sense. If you include the descriptor in tandem with a clear slur, are we not to assume the adjective is also meant as a slur? Of course it was meant that way, otherwise he would have just called her a dyke (which is bigoted).
That you guys want to explain away racism because it was used in response to another statement that should never have been uttered is pure ignorance. If your sister was being raped and your father was being shot at the same time, would you not be angry at both actions?
tomthumb (6d3080) — 5/12/2009 @ 5:12 pmI think Lovey has had a bunch of those phorid flies chompin’ on her brain for too long.
daleyrocks (5d22c0) — 5/12/2009 @ 5:39 pmComment by Stashiu3 — 5/12/2009 @ 4:35 pm
Don’t start what you can’t finish. Just an advice.
The Emperor7 (0c8c2c) — 5/12/2009 @ 6:13 pmBut you didn’t answer my question. I know they’re both wrong. The question was: which is worse?
I mean, we know that stealing and rape are both wrong…are you going to tell me that rape isn’t worse than theft?
Now, try it again: is it worse to wish a life-threatening medical condition on someone because of his political views than it is to make a crude remark about someone’s sexuality?
Oh, and for clarification, if you were to ask 100 people whether they thought wishing someone would be shot is equivalent to wishing they’d be killed…I’d be willing to bet close to 75% would say yes.
Steverino (1b3695) — 5/12/2009 @ 6:15 pmIt’s just a spammer, guys. It has no other purpose coming here than to derail the threads. One time it’s a woman. Another time it asks for more pictures of Miss California. Many times, it rails against homosexuality. Today it decries comments about sexual orientation.
nk (755c01) — 5/12/2009 @ 6:19 pmIf someone were to hope that [insert random lovey-friendly celebrity/politician of your choice here… I don’t want anyone shot or killed] would get shot, I’m sure lovey would assume that in that particular case it was a call for their assassination. Because of the nuance. Ignore her.
Comment by Stashiu3 — 5/12/2009 @ 4:35 pm
The Emperor7 (0c8c2c) — 5/12/2009 @ 6:30 pmThere are many ways to get shot. People survive gunshot wounds. Are you people always this obtuse? And what makes you think you can predict my reation in your conjured up hypothesis? Shoot the sucker first and wait for my reaction. And as a footnote, I hope Rush Limbaugh’s kidney fails. But I wish him long life. See?
Just step over it, Steverino, Stashiu and Daley.
nk (755c01) — 5/12/2009 @ 6:35 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU10TZs1ow0
Eric Blair (262ccd) — 5/12/2009 @ 6:40 pmComment by Steverino — 5/12/2009 @ 6:15 pm
That would make it 75% of people who don’t think things through befor answering. Getting shot is not equals to getting killed. The English is very simple. Have you heard the phrase ” ..he shot and killed his wife…”? Or “…the cops shot and killed the armed gunman..”? Why “shot and kill”? Because shooting does not always mean killing. Yes shooting does result in death. But not always.
The Emperor7 (0c8c2c) — 5/12/2009 @ 6:46 pmAnd to your next question, it is obvious to you which is worse. Why do you need me to point it out for you? Of course wishing someone a life-threatening illness is worse than making fun of one’s sexual orientation. Even an idiot would know that.
TheEmperor7, you are neither as amusing nor as witty as you appear to consider yourself.
SPQR (26be8b) — 5/12/2009 @ 6:47 pmComment by nk — 5/12/2009 @ 6:35 pm
The Emperor7 (0c8c2c) — 5/12/2009 @ 6:52 pmWhy don’t you go chew on some grass or something? You need to be healthy this night. 😉
“Mmmmeee-e-e-e-e-e-eh!!!” That’s my goat. Now run along. Humans are talking.
Comment by SPQR — 5/12/2009 @ 6:47 pm
The Emperor7 (0c8c2c) — 5/12/2009 @ 6:58 pmTell me, is shooting the same as killing? Is renal failure equals to death? Honest answers please.
TheEmperor7, what would you do with an honest answer? Ignore it as you have all the previous discussion? Ignore my previous comments in the thread as you have already?
Grow up.
SPQR (26be8b) — 5/12/2009 @ 7:05 pmMany years ago I was a crack shot. Do certain people here really think that me shooting their sorry asses (rhetorically speaking) at close range with my 357 would not likely be life threatening. Break in an perhaps I’ll opt for the 12 gauge pump. And i don’t need no stinkin’ firearms, for that matter. My Louisville slugger would suffice. As far as that goes a 22 in the back of the head would do it too.
Cannot imagine anyone on right side of spectrum getting a pass if they called for renal failure for Baracky. I might wish some like Olberdouche, Chrissie Matthews and harridan Garofolo shingles and bleeding hemorrhoids. For the trolls here, they might see what micturating against an electrified fence might do to their mr happys…fried crispy critters.
aoibhneas (a40a46) — 5/12/2009 @ 7:12 pmI can’t believe you just did that, SPQR. Dodging a legitimate question. I had great respect for you. Still do. Now will you please answer my question.
The Emperor7 (0c8c2c) — 5/12/2009 @ 7:25 pmHmm … its change of persona may mean that it’s a different dogturd2008/Japanese condom. That some other co-spammer took over it’s identity.
nk (755c01) — 5/12/2009 @ 7:26 pmComment by aoibhneas — 5/12/2009 @ 7:12 pm
No one is stopping you from wishing renal failure on the President. So long as you don’t wish him death. So go on. Wish away!
The Emperor (0c8c2c) — 5/12/2009 @ 7:33 pmI have told you guys to keep that barn door shut! I don’t like goatshit messing up the house.
The Emperor (0c8c2c) — 5/12/2009 @ 7:37 pmI already answered those: no, they are not the same.
I’m glad to see you know that, idiot. The point to the exercise was not to prove anything to me. It was to show that there are varying degrees of terrible things to say, and wishing a horrible illness on someone is a LOT worse than using a slur. But for some reason, tomthumb (who has fled from this thread), was all up in arms about the slur, and virtually ignored the far worse filth coming from Wanda Sykes’s mouth.
Steverino (1b3695) — 5/12/2009 @ 7:38 pmComment by nk — 5/12/2009 @ 7:26 pm
It’s a pod-person!
AD - RtR/OS! (3eaf60) — 5/12/2009 @ 7:58 pmNote how the nickname changes, after posting something else as someone else somewhere else…
“tomthumb” = Emperor7 = Emperor = Leonardo da Finchi
The sockpuppeting is not helpful, lovey.
carlitos (aa025a) — 5/12/2009 @ 8:01 pmComment by Steverino — 5/12/2009 @ 7:38 pm
So stop saying Wanda Sykes wishes Rush, death. As bad as what she said was, they are not the same.
The Emperor (0c8c2c) — 5/12/2009 @ 8:01 pm(I am going to pretend I did not see “that”, Steverino. I am gonna let you get off with a warning.)
I hope you find Heaven soon, Lovey.
daleyrocks (5d22c0) — 5/12/2009 @ 8:19 pmC’mon, Emperor, Love2008, whatever. This is a silly argument. Saying that “shooting someone is not the same as wishing them dead” is beneath your dignity. You are just arguing for the sake of argument.
Ditto the “wishing kidney failure” business. There are some people here (including me) who have relatives who have lost kidney function…and it isn’t a minor or easily fixed issue. The comment you made about dialysis was thoughtless and unkind, as anyone who has undergone dialysis knows very well. So should you, ma’am.
You don’t like some people here, and you like to argue with them. Okay, we get that.
So please change the subject. Sykes was being a jerk. And it is true that any comedian saying anything remotely similar about Barack Obama—or even Keith Olbermann—would be lambasted as being sociopathic.
Could you move on? Think about what you are defending, rather than focusing on arguments. How about we all agree that wishing sickness or death upon a political opponent, regardless of the D or R, is just plain crude and nasty behavior.
Eric Blair (262ccd) — 5/12/2009 @ 8:28 pm(please Rush, keep driving the young ‘uns and Hispanics our way),
Nothing more idiotic than believing that the urban liberalism of a high majority of Latinos throughout North America is somehow related to, say, Rush Limbaugh or Republicans, or rightwingers in the US. Simply put, most of the populace of societies in Central and South America have favored empty-headed liberalism for decades and decades. And the last time I checked, those nations weren’t caught up in the same unique socio-political phenomenon of a Limbaugh, or a Fox News, or an Ann Coulter, or a Glenn Beck.
Beyond that, I think all the “progressives” in this country who adore the voting records that dominate urban America’s Latino community should be required or obligated to relocate to Mexico or Venezuela, where they’ll find their ideology — and the glorious manifestation of its idiocy (eg, Mexico’s Supreme Court: “life in prison without parole is unconstitutional!!!” “Hugo Chavez is my hero!!!”) — on full display.
Mark (411533) — 5/12/2009 @ 8:42 pmThe Emperor is not a “she”. He will not be insulted.
The Emperor (0c8c2c) — 5/12/2009 @ 8:55 pmlovey apparently thinks that her warnings carry something more than her own continued humiliation. Pathetic.
carlitos, one of the other threads had a comment from DaFinchi claiming to hate DemocRATS. If that was lovey, it’s a pretty outrageous violation of the site rules. I did notice the name-change dropping the 7 from her other name (that I will not call her… she’ll always be lovey).
Stashiu3 (460dc1) — 5/12/2009 @ 8:58 pmComment by Eric Blair — 5/12/2009 @ 8:28 pm
The Emperor (0c8c2c) — 5/12/2009 @ 9:00 pmI honestly don’t understand what you are talking about. This matter has been resolved with Steverino. That last comment of yours was a waste of your time.
Okay, if that’s lovey, she is now trying to get banned or is completely drunk. A toss-up I think.
Stashiu3 (460dc1) — 5/12/2009 @ 9:01 pmPWI, Stash.
Eric Blair (262ccd) — 5/12/2009 @ 9:04 pmAnd yes, I have dropped the “7” on my handle. Let the appropriate authorities be informed. Thank you.
The Emperor (0c8c2c) — 5/12/2009 @ 9:05 pmIf she’s been sockpuppeting, especially as a Moby, there should be consequences. Just sayin’
Stashiu3 (460dc1) — 5/12/2009 @ 9:10 pm265.The Emperor is not a “she”. He will not be insulted.
Comment by The Emperor — 5/12/2009 @ 8:55 pm
Stashiu3 – Maybe Lovey is like Pat from SNL.
daleyrocks (5d22c0) — 5/12/2009 @ 9:18 pmShe’s a dishonest loon with delusions of competence and I’d really like someone to check if she was really sockpuppeting.
I haven’t watched SNL since the very beginning of the second cast… I’m not sure who Pat is. Someone insane maybe?
Stashiu3 (460dc1) — 5/12/2009 @ 9:28 pmThe more she saw how folks in the Right—including her husband — were treated in academia, the more her own views shifted.
I think particular things like the following, more than anything else, has truly turned me off of “progressives.” A reality made far worse because most on the left undoubtedly are deluded enough to believe their philosophy gives them a special leg up in the category of humaneness, kindness, caring and generosity.
Mark (411533) — 5/12/2009 @ 9:31 pmAll about Pat.
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (0ea407) — 5/12/2009 @ 9:48 pmAll about Empy/Lovey
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (0ea407) — 5/12/2009 @ 9:53 pmBro Brad,
I don’t know whether to thank you or swear vengeance. Good to know I made the right choice in dropping SNL I guess, so thanks for that at least. 😉
Stashiu3 (460dc1) — 5/12/2009 @ 9:58 pmOkay, vengeance it is!
(note to self: do NOT click any more Bro Brad links without corroboration that it’s SFS… “safe for Stashiu”.)
(Addendum: Have JD click the link first, he’ll click anything!)
Stashiu3 (460dc1) — 5/12/2009 @ 10:05 pm“(Addendum: Have JD click the link first, he’ll click anything!)”
Stadhiu3 – I tried to get him to go for the popcorn scene from Diner, but he never reported back on that.
daleyrocks (5d22c0) — 5/12/2009 @ 10:12 pmI’m sure he clicked it, may have tried it, and is not likely to report the results. Better Half is scary-good with edged weapons.
Stashiu3 (460dc1) — 5/12/2009 @ 10:22 pm#275 Stashiu3:
If it ain’t SFS, it ain’t safe for the EW1 neither.
EW1(SG) (5766f7) — 5/12/2009 @ 10:25 pmA real-life Pat
It is SFS.
What gender?
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (0ea407) — 5/12/2009 @ 10:32 pmDefinitely *not* SFS!
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (0ea407) — 5/12/2009 @ 10:42 pmBradley 10:42pm, looks like you found love208/TheEmperor’s youtube channel with that one.
SPQR (26be8b) — 5/12/2009 @ 10:47 pmSPQR,
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (0ea407) — 5/12/2009 @ 11:04 pmWell, this might also fit the, er . . . bill
Imagine the uproar if Rush said he hoped Wanda came down with sickle cell anemia.
Stan Switek (9716a0) — 5/12/2009 @ 11:09 pmHere you go, Mark. I think these words from a writer [who I can’t name] dovetails nicely with your comment above. Munger here is Charlie Munger, vice chairman of Berkshire Hathaway, at another one of his corporation’s annual meeting:
Munger also said he would blanket the country with solar panels, even if it weren’t cost effective, because “I’m not making this up“…”we could really use the stimulus.”
Later on, he said if he were “in charge,” he’d take away “everything from banks that wasn’t boring.”
So much for Munger’s self-described wisdom and his lattice work of mental models. I finally figured out why billionaires generally side with typical welfare state, tax-and-spend liberals. Convinced that they’re better and smarter than you, they want the power to run your life and make the choices they feel you are unable to make for yourself. Liberals and billionaires want to remake human nature in their own image and likeness.
fly on the wall (87b0f5) — 5/12/2009 @ 11:34 pmLiberals and billionaires want to remake human nature in their own image and likeness.
Certainly the ultimate limousine liberals along the lines of George Soros or, perhaps to a less extreme degree, Charlie Munger’s partner, Warren Buffett (since I don’t believe Buffett’s ideology is as dogmatic and ultra-left as Soros’s is), either want to remake human nature or — because they love going against the fundamentals of what makes humans tick (ie, they have a desire to re-invent the wheel) — they can be oddly naive and ignorant about human nature.
And knowing that Munger (because he’s a part of Berkshire Hathaway) is affiliated with Buffett — and since Munger’s quote about solar panels (assuming it’s not tongue-in-cheek) one ups Al Gore in the irresponsible-loon category — I thought Munger’s politics might be similarly nonsensical. However, he is listed as being a Republican, or at least to the right of Buffett, which sounds about correct in light of this:
Mark (411533) — 5/13/2009 @ 12:34 amSorry I was not here to be your link tester last night, Stashiu. Keen observation in re. my click on anything mentality. Now that I am aware of same, I am going to go to great lengths to alter said practice. My eyes have bled too many times from links that I should have never clicked on, thanks in large part, to MayBee.
JD (80dce8) — 5/13/2009 @ 6:09 amIt is doubling down on the stoopid. Previously, its standard was that it was racist to include the descriptor black because it had no relevancy. Well, by your own standards, Barcky’s skin color has nothing to do with the Presidency, therefore anyone that uses the descriptor of him as the first black President is being racist. The rest of your “black is racist dyke is homophobic” rant again proves my point that people like you so overuse, abuse, and bastardize those terms so as to make them meaningless. Thank you, racist.
JD (b5a4c1) — 5/13/2009 @ 7:18 am“DaFinchi” also has a penchant for pedantry on several topics. Emperor is a type of penguin, which is a bird. As is a finch. I’m not sayin’, I’m just sayin’.
carlitos (aa025a) — 5/13/2009 @ 7:21 amThe lady, herself, chose the playing field and the rules, tomthumb. She spoke nastily and invited nastiness in return. And her being black is relevant in the context of her being a carpet-scraper. In the black community, I understand, a homosexual is the ultimate pariah. A super-freak.
nk (755c01) — 5/13/2009 @ 7:22 amI would implore you to stop by an area of town in which a high percentage of African-Americans congregate and use the phrase. See what happens.
I do not recommend that you “stop by an area of town in which a high percentage of African-Americans congregate”, at all, tomthumb, and if you do, definitely do not say, “Hi, I’m gay”.
nk (755c01) — 5/13/2009 @ 7:33 amFor the last time, you blithering moron, I am NOT explaining away racism. However, I am pointing out that wishing death (or a life-threatening illness) on a person is WORSE than a racist remark.
You never answered my question: is making a crude comment about someone’s sexuality worse than wishing a life-threatening illness on that person? Are the two acts morally equivalent? If so, why?
Also, calling someone black isn’t racist.
This is an absurd line of reasoning. If you called someone a white dyke, would that be racist? After all, you’re using a persons race in tandem with a clear slur.
Steverino (69d941) — 5/13/2009 @ 7:36 amI don’t understand
Tommy apparently understands very little, at least as far as these postings portray – Tommy, please look up the urban phrase of “on the down – low” and get back to us. Then you’ll finally understand how idiotic you sound.
Dmac (1ddf7e) — 5/13/2009 @ 7:47 amOkay, in terms of silliness, you’ve dived off the cliffs at Acapulco.
Aside from that, however, you STILL haven’t answered my question. Which is worse: a racist slur or wishing a life-threatening illness on someone?
Steverino (69d941) — 5/13/2009 @ 7:48 amIf the intention of the statement was to discredit Sykes’ person,
Yeah, how dare anyone attempt to discredit someone who wished death on a private citizen.
Dmac (1ddf7e) — 5/13/2009 @ 7:48 amMany of us here have managed to do exactly that. You keep forgetting that. You also seem to be ducking my question, and that’s very telling.
You see, if wishing death on someone simply because of his political views is worse than an off-handed racist remark, then it’s perfectly reasonable for someone to be less offended by the latter than the former. Hence, less of a reaction to the racist slur than to the death wish. You do understand that, don’t you?
Steverino (69d941) — 5/13/2009 @ 7:56 amCouldn’t that be done without injecting race or sexual orientation?
Comment by tomthumb — 5/13/2009 @ 7:50 am
Translation: Could you not grant civility without getting it in return? Could you please drop your pants and bend over while I take out my tube of Vaseline?
nk (755c01) — 5/13/2009 @ 7:57 amKeep ducking, mental midget. Mr. Limbaugh is no more likely to get a kidney disease because Wanda Sykes wished it upon him that Wanda Sykes is likely to remain black because Christopher Hitchens commented on it. But you called Hitchens’s comment “hate speech” and you do not use the same level of opprobrium for Sykes.
That’s two straw men in the same sentence. First, I never said you were defending Sykes’s comment. Second, I have never said anyone who disagrees with her has a blank check to say whatever they wish.
I have never said Hitchens’s comment was at all acceptable. What I did say was that wishing death on someone is worse than a racist slur. You refuse to wrap your mind around that concept, and it just shows your lack of morals.
Steverino (69d941) — 5/13/2009 @ 8:01 amGive me a straight answer to my question — not another question — and I’ll answer yours.
Steverino (69d941) — 5/13/2009 @ 8:02 amPlease do not misinterpret my comments as a defense for what Wanda Sykes said, but her comments did not provide a blank check for those who disagree with her to say whatever they wish.
Of course they did. As long as they do not threaten violence. The black dyke said what she wanted to say and … f___ her (well, we’ll pay somebody to f___ her, preferrably) … we’ll say what we want to say.
nk (755c01) — 5/13/2009 @ 8:03 amFirst, my wife died of kidney failure, so I tend to think of kidney failure as a fatal condition. In other parts of this thread, I have called it a life-threatening condition.
Second, to say that wishing severe harm with the potential of death is not worse than calling someone black is rank stupidity.
No, it really should be said. You’ve shown your lack of moral standing. You’ve completely illuminated your gross idiocy. And you’ve given yourself permission to deliberately underreact to hate speech.
What you are telling us is that it’s worse to say “Obama is a black communist” than it is to say “I hope Obama dies of lung cancer”.
If you can’t see the unprecedented imbecility of that sentiment, then there is no hope for you.
Steverino (69d941) — 5/13/2009 @ 8:10 amIndeed. I couldn’t agree more.
How is the sock situation?
Eric Blair (262ccd) — 5/13/2009 @ 8:10 amSteverino, I am sorry for your loss. I’m sorrier that you have had to waste any of your time with this silly hair-splitting.
My sister-in-law is on long term dialysis after “renal failure”. I suspect that a certain commenter who claimed that it essentially was not difficult nor life threatening has no experience with it. And I sincerely hope she/he never does.
Eric Blair (262ccd) — 5/13/2009 @ 8:13 amPretty soon, I suspect you-know-who will start saying “Boss Limbaugh” again.
Eric Blair (262ccd) — 5/13/2009 @ 8:14 amOkay, you son of a bitch, you’ve crossed the line.
Give me your address. I’ll come over to you and shove my wife’s death certificate down your throat.
Steverino (69d941) — 5/13/2009 @ 8:19 amOh. My. God.
Steverino, just ignore that person. The post above says it all.
It’s just trolling.
Eric Blair (262ccd) — 5/13/2009 @ 8:19 amTomthumb, I think you are a sock puppet of someone who has been banned. You might, or might not be.
But. Drop. The. Subject. Go away for a while.
If your wife actually is ill from kidney disease, you would know far, far, FAR better than to write what you did in #314. Thoughtless, heartless, trollish.
Eric Blair (262ccd) — 5/13/2009 @ 8:21 amOkay, I have never called for anyone to be banned, but I am appealing to any moderator on this board to ban tomthumb.
He had better hope I don’t find out who he is in real life.
Steverino (69d941) — 5/13/2009 @ 8:23 amComment by tomthumb — 5/13/2009 @ 8:09 am
Blow me. You’re on ignore (stepping around dogshit, in other words) from now on.
nk (755c01) — 5/13/2009 @ 8:23 amSteverino, I think it is fine to write to Patterico about it. That was over the line. It’s as bad as Levi Juhl’s hateful nonsense.
Patterico has a job and has to deal with lots of stuff; it’s too bad he has to deal with this kind of stuff, too.
Eric Blair (262ccd) — 5/13/2009 @ 8:24 amI can’t be sure, but I’m fairly sure that we have seen this character before under one of several other names.
Eric Blair (262ccd) — 5/13/2009 @ 8:25 amYou fucking cretin, I don’t want you banned because you disagree with me. I don’t want you banned because you’re the stupidest piece of shit that ever walked the land. I want you banned because you said something utterly despicable.
Eric, I think you’re right: we have seen needledick in another incarnation.
Steverino (69d941) — 5/13/2009 @ 8:29 amTrolls whine about being banned for opinion when they know they are being banned because of behavior.
Its part of the dishonesty of a troll.
SPQR (72771e) — 5/13/2009 @ 8:30 amYou would do better to apologize now for being a thoroughly bad person—or leave.
You really crossed the line on that one, and to dignify your hateful behavior as “dissenting opinions” says it all regarding why you post, and the kind of person you appear to be.
I don’t care who you really are. I don’t think most people would be proud of your actions. Including your wife, if she really is suffering from kidney disease.
Eric Blair (262ccd) — 5/13/2009 @ 8:31 amEric, leave his wife out of it. If I’m going to get pissed at him for deprecating my wife’s death, then I’ll also ask that everyone leave his wife out of the discussion.
Steverino (69d941) — 5/13/2009 @ 8:38 amIt has no wife. It’s a spammer which makes up whatever s___ it wants.
nk (755c01) — 5/13/2009 @ 8:45 amIt’s hard to ban because it uses proxies and several IPs.
nk (755c01) — 5/13/2009 @ 8:48 amWe’re idiots for engaging it in the first place.
nk (755c01) — 5/13/2009 @ 8:49 amFinches, Penguins, Thumbs, whatever that was yesterday … it’s all the same.
carlitos (aa025a) — 5/13/2009 @ 9:04 amComment by tomthumb — 5/13/2009 @ 8:53 am
Was going to ask for an explanation for the “smiley face” but instead I second the request to ban this commenter, specifically for comment # 314 coupled with comment 330. Patterico? DRJ?
no one you know (65b7aa) — 5/13/2009 @ 9:53 amNOYK, this is just a nasty person who thinks it is cool and edgy to say nasty things. All the while being quite sensitive about things he or she thinks is important.
Sounds like a college student to me, avoiding studying for finals. Another Keyboard Kommando.
I think that #330 says it all, and I agree with your opinion.
Steverino, the only reason I brought up the “wife” of this bit of toilet film is simple (and I discussed the wife respectfully, when you and I both know this character isn’t married to anyone with kidney disease): if in fact this person did have a wife with kidney disease, he would never write the things he did. And if he did, his wife would bounce some household implement off his skull, to condition him toward more adult behavior.
Kidney disease is no laughing matter. Nor is shooting someone.
And so on.
Eric Blair (c8876d) — 5/13/2009 @ 10:17 amEric, I understand your point. I agree with you, for the most part. I just don’t want the pile of discarded foreskins to haven any reason to bitch that he’s not getting treated fairly.
For the record, I don’t doubt that someone could live for 40 years with kidney disease, but that is not nearly the same thing as kidney failure.
Having said that, I won’t post again until I get word from Patterico/Karl/DRJ that the open running syphilis sore is gone.
Steverino (69d941) — 5/13/2009 @ 10:21 amAgain, Steverino, I’m sorry for your loss. My sister in law has ovarian cancer, and the chemo killed her kidneys. So she is getting dialysis on top of rough chemo, and of course cannot get a replacement kidney.
As for the troll: just a thoughtless child, regardless of the chronological age. I think he/she/it was just trying to follow the “racism is everywhere” meme, and it took him/her/it to some nasty places.
Eric Blair (c8876d) — 5/13/2009 @ 10:39 amI disagree. No one is getting banned today. You crossed the line by bringing your wife into this conversation. Families should be kept out of arguments. Not being used to score points. If anything, tomthumb has been the gentleman on this thread. Answering questions calmly while you guys kept calling him names. I wouldn’t be that patient. He will not be banned.
The Emperor (0c8c2c) — 5/13/2009 @ 10:43 amHowever, tomthumb, do apologize to Steverino for the comment. I know you are a gentleman.
So sayeth the sockpuppet.
Dmac (1ddf7e) — 5/13/2009 @ 10:48 amThis is starting to be real creepy.
AD - RtR/OS! (e8f920) — 5/13/2009 @ 10:49 amYou crossed the line by bringing your wife into this conversation
Is this commenter speaking for itself, or the “Tom Thumb” character? Hard to tell – then we have this:
No one is getting banned today
Really? Why so defensive all of a sudden? And more importantly, why even care?
He will not be banned.
Translation: “I/it/TomThumb/whatever will not be banned.”
I think we just found out conclusively who “Tom Thumb” really is – and why we just heard an assinine defense for not banning it. Let’s ask for a clarification of the ISP address and settle the matter immediately.
Dmac (1ddf7e) — 5/13/2009 @ 10:55 amHmmm…
So I guess that “tomthumb” doing so was okay, somehow?
Eric Blair (c8876d) — 5/13/2009 @ 11:52 amSheesh, I’ve not been so creeped out since I saw Anthony Hopkins in “Magic”.
SPQR (72771e) — 5/13/2009 @ 11:55 amI am no sockpuppet. You all know that. I can proudly say that cos it’s true. But feel free to confirm with our host. People who disagree with you are not necessarily sockpuppets. They just disagree.
The Emperor (0c8c2c) — 5/13/2009 @ 12:02 pmI can post comments from here, Starbucks, my Blackberry, via a proxy server, Panera bread, the library, the office … Just sayin’
carlitos (aa025a) — 5/13/2009 @ 12:11 pmTrue, carlitos,
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (e4892a) — 5/13/2009 @ 12:20 pmAn experienced IP sleuth like Patterico won’t be fooled by multiple locations. He can determine which addresses are associated with a troll and its aliases.
So you must know something about sockpuppetry, then. Seeing your vast knowledge of it, one wonders if it is not by experience. Just thinkin’
The Emperor (0c8c2c) — 5/13/2009 @ 12:25 pmI see that tomthumb decided to not only not apologize for its vile slur against me, but decided to double down on the stoopid again, and make even worse attacks against steverino. Now, you all know that I disagree with most of you on banning, but in this case, it appears warranted.
JD (a7fa4a) — 5/13/2009 @ 12:32 pmSo you must know something about sockpuppetry, then. Seeing your vast knowledge of it, one wonders if it is not by experience. Just thinkin’
Comment by The Emperor — 5/13/2009 @ 12:25 pm
Obviously one can get quite a bit of experience in dealing with sockpuppetry, in two ways, The Emperor. By being a sockpuppet a lot, or by dealing with many sockpuppets. I’d think the latter would give one a wider range of experience.
no one you know (65b7aa) — 5/13/2009 @ 12:35 pmLet’s cool off. Tomthumb can spend some time in moderation mulling over his positions on racism and illness. Everyone else can spend their time discussing today’s thoughtful posts by Karl or, if you prefer, how to join tomthumb in moderation.
DRJ (b0f193) — 5/13/2009 @ 12:49 pmI just deleted every comment from tomthumb aka Ed from PA, and banned the IP (66.213.29.2).
Patterico (cc3b34) — 5/13/2009 @ 11:38 pmAh, jeez. Again?!
What other names did this character use, and why on Earth does he spend so much effort on this kind of thing?
Yeah, it’s a rhetorical question.
Eric Blair (262ccd) — 5/14/2009 @ 12:06 amAt least jharpy is dioshonest ebough to keep using the same name. This one appears to want to break a record for sock puppets.
JD (e66bfa) — 5/14/2009 @ 12:23 amIf the topic was supposed to be why Obama should not support and laugh at disgusting comments, then I guess it’s appropriate that we have a chance to show we are not going to laugh at that kind of thing like Obama does.
It’s amazing how, in such a short amount of time, the White House is back to the 90s era of unseriousness. For 8 years people didn’t respect Bush, but took the presidency seriously. Bush didn’t insult Olbermann and Stewart, and he didn’t laugh at death wishes. Instead, he laughed off insults at bush, shoes thrown at bush, ugly questions, etc. Obama cuts off the debate as soon as he’s asked a tough question, but laughs it up when his opponents are demonized.
Bush and Obama are polar opposite men, even if their domestic policies are so similar (albeit Obama’s is bigger in scope).
Juan (4cdfb7) — 5/14/2009 @ 1:19 amOh My God. So tomthumbs was Ed from PA all the while. That’s crazy. Well the boss has used his big stick. Something I know he rarely does. Should have listened to me and apologized when he had the chance.
The Emperor (0c8c2c) — 5/14/2009 @ 1:49 amAre we all happy now?
And the kewpie doll goes to Juan. Bulls-eye!
Random Numbers (20b9e8) — 5/14/2009 @ 2:22 am