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Organizing for America

Filed under: Obama — DRJ @ 6:01 pm

[Guest post by DRJ]

Obama announced the formation of “Organizing for America:”

“The new group will be the flagship of “Obama 2.0” as many people have taken to calling the transformation of the political organization created during the 2008 campaign.
It’s clear that Obama recognizes the power that his email list, which boasts more than 13 million names, represents in American politics and is working to ensure it stays within the control of a small group who are charged with protecting the Obama brand.”

I think this is Obama’s version of Nixon’s CREEP, the Committee to Re-Elect the President.

Obama also plans to use his and his family’s celebrity status to boost his ratings with the American public, an act that will further blur the line between pop culture and politics. The Politico has coined a term for it: the “Paparazzi Presidency” and even the Secret Service is helping out:

“Gary Morgan, a British journalist who runs Los Angeles-based Splash News, one of the largest paparazzi agencies in the world, says Mr Obama’s Secret Service men assisted his photographers in getting pictures of the President-Elect on the beach.

He said: “Obama is the paparazzi president. The Secret Service was very cool with us. They knew what we wanted to do. They told us if we stuck to certain areas, we would be fine. They got to know who we were and it was very pleasurable working with them.”

Mr Morgan said Mr Obama has a “canny media team” who are “going to take full advantage of using people like us as well to get the message out.”



120 Responses to “Organizing for America”

  1. It will be interesting to see how secure they manage to keep it. Given the intrusions by “foreign entities” that the McCain and Obama campaign headquarters experienced I’d bet they can’t keep it secret.

    voiceofreason2 (f237cf)

  2. “I think this is Obama’s version of Nixon’s CREEP, the Committee to Re-Elect the President. ”

    Either that or its just someone who isn’t about to lose control of a very valuable mailing list.

    imdw (c5488f)

  3. It’s clear that Obama recognizes the power that his email list, which boasts more than 13 million names,

    Oh, brother.

    Here’s a name that probably can be found on that list, right along with Bill “meaning-of-is-is” Clinton, Hillary “sniper-fire” Clinton and Joe “plagerist” Biden, not to mention Jeremiah “Goddamn America” Wright and Al “Tawana Brawley” Sharpton:

    The Sarasota/Bradenton community is shocked by the sudden disappearance of local philanthropist and socialite Arthur Nadel. He had been a supporter of the arts, and charities throughout the community.

    Investors in a Sarasota-based hedge fund could be out $350 million, and the man behind it has vanished.

    Managers of the fund are telling clients that their money is gone, and they do not know if any will be recovered.

    Investors — from individuals to the Sarasota YMCA Foundation — in the funds branded Viking, Valhalla and Scoop were stunned this week to learn they may be victims in what could become the largest investment swindle in Southwest Florida history.

    Unlike [Bernard] Madoff, who took money out of liberal charities [note: and who also gave donations to primarily liberal/Democrat politicians and groups] and ended up bilking them in investment schemes, Nadel appears to have done the opposite.

    At least some of the Charities Nadel supported were pet liberal causes. He appears to have taken investors’ money and funneled them directly into various liberal charities. He was especially supportive of the efforts of former Democrat President Jimmy Carter’s Habitat for Humanity.

    ^ The irony is amazing — of both Bernard Madoff and, now, Arthur Nadel — considering all the Democrats who’ve long accused Republicans/conservatives of being beholden to, or corrupted by, their wealth and connections to Wall Street, and incubating our current economic problems.

    Mark (411533)

  4. How far does one seriously believe the brand, Obama will take us? Yes, he’s the trifecta of marketing: new, different and young (with a Blackberry), but one wonders when substance became irrelevant and the Secret Service became a PR agency?

    Dana (137151)

  5. Dana, do you forget when Chelsea was throwing her tantrums about Secret Service always being in her way when she was First Daughter?

    Secret Service has to obey the orders of CIC and if CIC-next says “let them come to me” they have to obey. Ya know?

    John Hitchcock (fb941d)

  6. The 13 million people on that email list will be known as “the forever dunned”.

    backwoods conservative (28e0cc)

  7. Beginning Tuesday, we will find out whether we will be blinded by brilliance, inundated by BS,
    or some combination thereof.

    I’m betting on Jimmah-redux (another very bright guy – Georgia Tech, Naval Academy, Nuclear Propulsion Specialist).

    It is going to be a long four years.

    AD (c28272)

  8. All this reminds me of a guy in Germany who, not so long ago, also had a “canny media team” who were fanatic about controlling his public image and who took full advantage of certain people in order to get his message out….

    Verstehen Sie?

    MarkJ (7fa185)

  9. I didn’t think it was possible, but this post makes me dislike Obama even more.

    Karen (ce69ff)

  10. Comment by MarkJ — 1/17/2009 @ 7:58 pm

    Sieg, Heil!

    AD (c28272)

  11. Reminds me of the rise of Hitlers SA, the Brown Shirts in 1930s Germany.
    Shoot, they’re already trying to overturn term limits so that Chancellor, I mean President elect obama will rule continuously, by the “peoples” will of course. All that’s needed is a Night of the Long Knives sometime in the future and it’ll all be in place. “Sieg Heil”? more like “Hope and Change”.

    sanjuro (b74495)

  12. I remember when liberals accused Bush of running the continuous campaign (when in reality it was Clinton that couldn’t go to the bathroom without getting a poll on whether to stand or sit). Will we see them complain now where Obama is keeping his campaign organization around to remind us all how he is responsible for the sun coming up each day?

    Good gawd it will be a long four years.

    MU789 (c852bc)

  13. He said: “Obama is the paparazzi president. . . . [He is] going to take full advantage of using people like us as well to get the message out.”

    Dear Leader might want to rethink this strategy. The history of overexposed celebrities in America is that the public very soon becomes tired of them and starts wanting them to go away. Do the Obamas really want to become the Brangelina of Washington, DC?

    JVW (bff0a4)

  14. Personally I never thought that a black man will ever be elected as president. What do I know. But then, I never invision that the president-elect wife is a radical with some revolutionary changes. That’s dangerous when will never find out what. We have four years, we ought to know before then why so many people are crazy for him. Obviously is not for his looks on the beach. And not for his work, not yet anyhow. If he fails his report card, he will show you his race card. One out of two is not bad. Not from a man that’s coming out from Chicago.

    Joe Fattal (f0bf3f)

  15. sanjuro – Is there any information out yet on what color shirts or other uniform details this Obama army will wear?

    daleyrocks (5d22c0)

  16. I’m sure Michelle will be running the operation. Oh wait, no, she’s gonna be Mom in Chief!


    Patricia (89cb84)

  17. Bush, Obama, McCain, Biden, They are all CFR, Globalist scum who will spit on your constitution and are all for big government. WHERE IS ALL THE BAILOUT MONEY. Its not $800 Billion its at least 3 trillion according to Bloomberg. Citibank got billions and now they are splitting up cause they are broke…WHAT DID THEY DO WITH THE MONEY. I could have given everyone in America money and fixed it all with 3 trillion. Now Obaaaaama wants another BAILOUT. Wake up America you are being sold out. This is all a planned event. Problem, Reaction, Solution. They dont need a dictator. Both sides are the same.

    Derrick (f80717)

  18. “Sieg, Heil!”

    When you’re unpopular, you gotta make popularity seem bad.

    imdw (8bb588)

  19. Popularity is fleeting, imdw. Reputation is what matters.

    DRJ (345e40)

  20. To paraphrase Billy Crystal’s SNL character, Fernando: “It’s better to look good than to be good”.

    Icy Texan (b7d162)

  21. oh. Derrick I think you may have a point but I’m not hearing how I can help exactly. My feeling though is that Bloomberg is not exactly where I’d look to get the Real Truth. Something feels not right about that.

    happyfeet (4eacbc)

  22. If you had the majority of the world audience listening and ready to follow you ut would be wise to use that.

    400Degrees (b307fe)

  23. First and foremost, Brothers dont mess it up like people like Bush. I guess that joke Palin could have did better, huh?

    400Degrees (b307fe)

  24. BHo is a puppet. As the economic calamity continues to rake trillions out of private hands and banks continue to slide under, the American electorate- at least the “half” that voted for the BHo and his sham fam- need a palliative to ease their worried minds (e.g. no money for the kids college, no money to “retire”, no “largest transfer of inherited wealth in history to the boomers and by the boomers”- poof! gone baby!).

    The froth being created by the paparazzi for the BHo reminds me of the Spanish conquistadores who, when traveling by ship across the Atlantic, kept their mustaches and beards coated with perfume to mask the stench coming up from the galleys where the enslaved crews were stowed.

    BHo’s fall from grace will be swift as the rogue nations of the world ignore his “speeches” and the Clintonian re-treads in his cabinet.

    Bear1909 (5035df)

  25. #23

    You know, you certainly got a point. Idi Amin, “Papa Doc” and “Baby Doc” Duvalier, Robert Mugabee did so much for their people. Not to mention the folks in Liberia, Rawanda, The Congo, Angola, etc.

    It’s truly amazing, the wisom, rationality, and gentile guidance of “Brothers”.

    Dr. K (4dd7c3)

  26. Of COURSE Obama will keep tight control of that list. Obama’s egomania is ever so slowly creeping out from underneath the bus. He actually believes the specious swill coming from the mouths of the Dinosaur Media.

    While comparisons between the ’30s era Nazi Germany, today’s North Korea, Zimbabwe, et al are well and good, the evidence suggests things far worse.

    At least Michelle hasn’t (yet) attacked a photographer while the Secret Service held him down.

    SeniorD (50f696)

  27. First and foremost, Brothers dont mess it up like people like Bush.

    Tru dat, yo!

    Kwame Kilpatrick (99243e)

  28. There was a young family of Niger
    Who smiled as they rode on a Tiger;
    They came back from the ride
    With the family inside,
    And the smile on the face of the Tiger.

    Rich Fader (e5d789)

  29. Even though Hussein has barely any connection to Black Americans and is more foreigner than American, he is a typical Black American.

    His phony show business, flash and trash, music, dance are all straight out of cultural cliches.

    An anti-American, left wing lawyer with virtually no experience and his hate filled, anti-American witch of a wife.

    How low this nation has fallen. We will pay for this foolishness. A lawyer with Marxist tendencies in the White House. Of course, most people who voted for him are too ignorant to understand what that means.

    MockTheOne (f6cafd)

  30. We, The World and the Pass It Forward Movement is in full support of Organizing For America.

    Arlan Berglas (95ac47)

  31. DRJ

    The LATimes has a few more details

    [S]ources familiar with the planning say the new group will employ a full-time staff of hundreds of professional organizers, possibly numbering an average of between one and two workers per congressional district in certain politically important states. One source said that Obama aides have discussed an annual budget of $75 million — an unprecedented standing political army that will await orders from a president.

    The network also has the potential to cause tension within the Democratic Party because Obama is expected to mobilize the organization to target Democratic lawmakers in Republican-leaning districts who might hesitate to vote for his agenda when it comes to imposing limits on carbon gas emissions, for example, or universal healthcare.

    I’ve created the new recruitment poster here.

    Darleen (187edc)

  32. It is creepy, Darleen.

    The old CREEP never recruited an “army” of workers, to my knowledge. This is unprecedented.

    Patricia (89cb84)

  33. It’s already been a long four years.

    Anonymous (0d6d87)

  34. I’ve created the new recruitment poster here.

    I’ve sometimes evoked the concept of “Banana Republic” when characterizing the type of moment a majority of the US electorate created for itself when it pulled the lever, or arranged the chads of its ballot, in a particular way on November 4, 2008. Yea, a slightly tongue-in-cheek and obviously very flip reaction towards the entrance of Obama to the White House.

    However, when I read things like what the “recruitment poster” is in response to — and in reference to what’s been published in a newspaper whose reporter (even though probably of the left and pro-Obama) may view the new president’s tactics with approval but also, at the same time, a feeling of wariness — I now really do have to wonder whether America isn’t going to become the world’s biggest Banana Republic.

    Mark (411533)

  35. Uh, does anybody wanna stick a microphone in Scott McLellan’s face and ask him what he thinks of the pending David Axholerod “permanent campaign” that he claims had him feeling all icky and conflicted when Karl Rove was conducting one?

    Anybody? Anybody? Bueller? Oh, I guess they’re all doing stories about those oh-so-popular Obama Beanie Babies and bobbleheads (that are, uh, ahem … made in China).

    You just watch, folks — there are going to be some people who made their bones working for Media Matters for America (or some such professional smear group) who are going to be serving as the ones directing Obama’s minions to attack whoever sticks his/her head out and dissents, like Stanley Kurtz.

    If you the don’t remember the Kurtz incident, here’s a quick reminder: On August 27, 2008, Milt Rosenberg, a mild-mannered talk show host who has been working in relative obscurity at WGN radio in Chicago for decades, suddenly became public enemy Numero Uno across the nation among Obamabots. Why? Because he bucked the MSM trend of ignoring Harvard-educated anthropologist Stanley Kurtz, who wanted to discuss what he alone was willing to reveal about Obama’s ties to terrorists William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn.

    WGN producers requested an Obama flack to either drive a few blocks to the WGN studios to participate or respond via that newfangled telephone thingy. They instead sent out an “Obama Action Alert,” accusing Kurtz of being a liar and a “right-wing hatchet man.” Rosenberg’s email was jammed, along with the switchboards at WGN, having received calls from people who just repeated what the campaign told them. It brings to mind the Wicked Witch of the West from The Wizard of Oz calling out the flying monkeys to locate Dorothy and her friends.

    I wish I had reason to be cautiously optimistic as some right-of-center folk are, but day after daythere are new reasons to fear this The Who’s Tommy cult figure that’s going to be running “the free world.”

    L.N. Smithee (a30bed)

  36. Well, algore’s only problem with digital brownshirts was that they weren’t his digital brownshirts.

    ThomasD (1659da)

  37. The interesting thing here is that he’s *not* turning the list of donors over to the Democratic party; he’s creating a new structure outside the party.

    aphrael (9e8ccd)

  38. Interesting point, aphrael. Of course, it won’t mean much if Obama becomes a “party man” and serves as captain and coach of the Democrats. I have a feeling that my confidence in the new President will be directly proportional to the degree in which he frustrates Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. Let’s now forget, however, that Obama’s political history is pretty much blindly voting the party line.

    JVW (bff0a4)

  39. You guys are so different from, well the others. I mean the millions of Americans who are excited to be alive to see this new administration. Why don’t you people share a bit of the enthusiasm and have a little faith that this new presidency will be much better than the last four years? Where do you get the strenght to be so pessimistic? How do you do it? As for the 13 million contacts, I think it’s smart to keep them. Anything wrong with that? Face it, the guy is smart.

    love2008 who will now be known as Emperor7 (0c8c2c)

  40. love

    It’s a mixed bag because The One is nothing but a cipher. I am relieved that he appears to be center-right on foreign policy, but domestic is one huge pork party for Democrat and Obama cronies. That worries me.

    Darleen (187edc)

  41. love/Emperor — I do have enthusiasm and (some) faith in the new administration. What frightens me and repels me is the Cult of Personality that has developed around Dear Leader. There are literally millions of my fellow citizens who think that a politician is going to somehow improve their lives. What they fail to realize is that Obama has risen to where he is by largely avoiding having to make tough decisions or take controversial stands. Now that the buck stops with him, he is surely going to disappoint a lot of people. I remember the great hopes that the left had for Bill Clinton, and how he stuck it to them every chance he got (actually, that is the only thing I ever appreciated about him). My fear is that all these people who are drunk on “Hope” will have a nasty post-inaguration hangover, and radicalism in this country will be on the rise rather than on the wane.

    JVW (bff0a4)

  42. “Where do you get the strenght to be so pessimistic?”

    Lovey – Who the hell are you to diagnose pessimism? I am not pessimistic. Over the long run I believe this country will remain great. Over the short run I believe we will be lucky to avoid Obama royally screwing things up.


    daleyrocks (5d22c0)

  43. Why don’t you people share a bit of the enthusiasm and have a little faith that this new presidency will be much better than the last four years?

    I don’t see much to be enthusiastic about. There’s a new guy. That’s about it. That lots of other people are giddy is not sufficient cause for me to be giddy.

    Pablo (99243e)

  44. I am relieved that he appears to be center-right on foreign policy

    Darleen, I agree with those who say cold, hard reality has set in for him in such matters.

    But on domestic…like others have also said, Obama will make Bush appear miserly.

    Paul (creator of "Staunch Brayer") (36bd45)

  45. I don’t like some of the comments here today that sound a little racial to me. I do think the guy is way over his head and is trying to do too much early on.

    He will have a lot of trouble with the Congressional Democrats, just as Carter did, because they are even farther left than he is. I see Conyers spending years trying to indict Republican staff members for torture and other imaginary crimes. That will poison the present trend to bipartisan tolerance of Obama as he tries to get something done.

    He is also a front man for a movement that Axelrod and others will try to use to turn the country left. He has never really done anything on his own. We don’t even know how he got into Harvard Law School. I’m far more concerned about the people around him and behind him than I am about him. He is still pretty much a cipher.

    I think the next six months will tell us if he has any ability or it was all just show. I think it best to keep quiet and watch how he does. It does no good to compare him to Nazis because he has nothing in common with them. He is passive, for one thing. I don’t see him doing anything aggressive because he has trouble making a decision. This is all an accident because Hillary messed up her campaign. I’m trying to think of a parallel in American history. Maybe Harding. That’s as close as I can come.

    Mike K (2cf494)

  46. Baracky is a product launch not a president, Mr. Emperor person. His marketing team targets the gayest common denominator. What did you do to the bottom? Do it to the top and you got em. Except when it’s improper, cause that right there’s a showstopper. Change it to a mixed number, reduce it all and then move on. Something like that. If you know how to tivo stuff you won’t even know he’s there most days.

    happyfeet (4eacbc)

  47. Why don’t you people share a bit of the enthusiasm and have a little faith that this new presidency will be much better than the last four years?

    Because he made irresponsible statements when he thought nobody to the right of Markos Moulitsas Zúñiga was listening; statements he threw under the bus when pointed out by his critics.

    Like “bankrupting the coal industry” and implying tax hikes during a recession come to mind.

    If his ideas are so popular, and the future so bright you gotta wear shades, why does he need a full-time staff of hundreds of professional organizers outside of the Democrat Party to ensure implementation of his agenda?

    Paul (creator of "Staunch Brayer") (36bd45)

  48. I can only hope that Obama sticks with his apparent admiration for a Republican, Abraham Lincoln, instead of one of the beloved big 3 of the Democrat Party, Franklin Roosevelt (I’m guessing the other 2 would be JFK and Wild Bill Clinton?).

    But information like the following indicates that if you put enough smoke and mirrors before the public — if a top politician exudes enough of a winning smile, enough charm — they’ll be gullible (or another word might be stupid) to fall for it.

    By Meg Sullivan

    Two UCLA economists say they have figured out why the Great Depression dragged on for almost 15 years, and they blame a suspect previously thought to be beyond reproach: President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

    After scrutinizing Roosevelt’s record for four years, Harold L. Cole and Lee E. Ohanian conclude in a new study that New Deal policies signed into law 71 years ago thwarted economic recovery for seven long years.

    “Why the Great Depression lasted so long has always been a great mystery, and because we never really knew the reason, we have always worried whether we would have another 10- to 15-year economic slump,” said Ohanian, vice chair of UCLA’s Department of Economics. “We found that a relapse isn’t likely unless lawmakers gum up a recovery with ill-conceived stimulus policies.”

    In an article in the August issue of the Journal of Political Economy, Ohanian and Cole blame specific anti-competition and pro-labor measures that Roosevelt promoted and signed into law June 16, 1933.

    “President Roosevelt believed that excessive competition was responsible for the Depression by reducing prices and wages, and by extension reducing employment and demand for goods and services,” said Cole, also a UCLA professor of economics. “So he came up with a recovery package that would be unimaginable today, allowing businesses in every industry to collude without the threat of antitrust prosecution and workers to demand salaries about 25 percent above where they ought to have been, given market forces. The economy was poised for a beautiful recovery, but that recovery was stalled by these misguided policies.”

    Cole and Ohanian calculate that [Roosevelt’s program] and its aftermath account for 60 percent of the weak recovery. Without the policies, they contend that the Depression would have ended in 1936 instead of the year when they believe the slump actually ended: 1943.

    When Barack Obama was seeking AFL-CIO support in the primaries, he promised to sign a bill that would effectively deprive workers of a private-ballot vote in unionization drives.

    Obama doesn’t talk about this issue much before general audiences, but it his No. 1 promise when he speaks to unions — pledging that the so-called Employee Free Choice Act will become law in 2009 if he wins the presidency in November. “We’re ready to play offense for organized labor. It’s time we had a president who didn’t choke saying the word ‘union.’ A president who strengthens our unions by letting them do what they do best: organize our workers,” the freshman senator told the AFL-CIO in Philadelphia on April 2.

    “I will make it the law of the land when I’m president of the United States,” he told the labor federation.

    The labor-law reform is known as the “card-check bill” because it would allow employees to form a union simply by publicly collecting a majority of cards signed by workers supporting unionization of their employer’s business. Union leaders would, of course, know how each worker voted, opening them up to pressure and intimidation.

    Mark (411533)

  49. Comment by daleyrocks — 1/18/2009 @ 10:27 am
    In what ways do you predict he is going to “screw things up”, Daley?
    He is not even President yet and you are predicting failure already…..

    love2008 who will now be known as Emperor7 (0c8c2c)

  50. Baracky will screw things up in new and surprising ways I think. He’s the first dirty socialist we ever elected. The first one what can walk anyway. It’s unprecedented.

    happyfeet (4eacbc)

  51. He is not even President yet and you are predicting failure already…..


    The search-and-destroy team was out for Bush long before he was inaugurated.

    Paul (creator of "Staunch Brayer") (36bd45)

  52. You guys are so different from, well the others. I mean the millions of Americans who are excited to be alive to see this new administration.


    Jim Treacher (796deb)

  53. In what ways do you predict he is going to “screw things up”, Daley?

    To be fair, He might not be so bad. He’s already backpedaling furiously away from the majority of what he campaigned on. It appears that he might be just another politician.


    Pablo (99243e)

  54. Dear Love 2008 – Because we are realists. We are not given to an overly emotional view of life that prevents us from seeing things as they really are. We also have actually listened to Obama and determined that he is not actually saying anything – just a bunch of platitudes and feel-good phrases stuck together. We wonder why the rest of you are so incredibly gullible. Or perhaps we just don’t like Kool Aid.

    Lily (9d9b60)

  55. love2008,

    You don’t have to take our word for it. The rest of the world realizes Obama can’t live up to his hype:

    “Just two months ago, the future president seemed a cross between Superman and Merlin the magician,” Massimo Gramellini wrote in a commentary for Italy’s La Stampa newspaper. “Now he himself admits he won’t be able to keep all his promises, and who knows? Maybe someone will ask for his impeachment by the end of next week.”

    “The idealism has diminished,” said Samuel Solvit, who heads an Obama support network in France. “Everyone was dreaming a little. Now people are more realistic.”

    Muslims want to know why Obama hasn’t joined the chorus of international criticism of Israel’s Gaza offensive. Last week posters of him were set on fire in Tehran to shouts of “Death to Obama!”

    DRJ (345e40)

  56. The Man Barack is going to make history because he is the first half white man ever elected to the office of President of the USA.
    He is famous for nothing. He has a terrible record in the senate with making voting decisions and often never voted at all. He is afraid to
    take a firm stand on any issue. He specializes in no vote , absent, present as his vote. He didn’t do shit as a senator. He tries not to offend
    anyone because he is already starting to run for re election . He won’t be able to make hard decisions because he he is afraid to lose votes.
    Thats why he always so vague when he says anything. Never details, never firm statements. He only wants to make nice nice. Go to the
    senate voting history page and see his voteing record for yourself. Many senators are the same way. No wonder little ever gets done and what dos takes so long. We are all in big trouble!

    ALPINE STEVE (7c6b6c)

  57. “In what ways do you predict he is going to “screw things up”, Daley?
    He is not even President yet and you are predicting failure already…..”

    Lovey – You are up to your old tricks you lying crapweasel. I did not predict that the Messiah was going to screw thing up. I said we would be lucky if he didn’t and you have been reading this blog to know exactly the ways people think most probable. I think you should take one of his commemorative plates and shove it up your squeekhole sideways for distorting the meaning of what I wrote. I thought you promised to be honest this year.

    daleyrocks (5d22c0)

  58. DRJ – Remember that Sarkozy thinks Obama is an empty suit, the left’s socialist hero, Hugo Chavez, has turned on him, and Iranians are burning him in effigy.

    daleyrocks (5d22c0)

  59. I think he has never done anything on his own. Maybe he will be fine but how can we tell ? That’s why I compared him to Harding. Read about the 1920 election sometime. This would be a good start. Roosevelt had died and left no one of real stature as a candidate that everyone could support. In this case, Hillary was the assumed candidate and she screwed up her campaign. Obama is as accidental a president as Harding. The difference is that Coolidge was an excellent successor. We had better pray for Obama’s health. I can think of only one person who would be a worse president and he is there waiting to take over.

    Something like this happened with Bill Clinton. After Gulf War I, the Democrats assumed Bush would be unbeatable and people like Cuomo stepped aside. Clinton was not a bad president and could have been much better if he had been disciplined. Of course, he had been a governor and had a record. Obama does not. We have no idea what he is like in action because he has never been in action. He could be OK but I think he will be another Carter.

    He does seem to be reaching out to Republicans but he has still not made a big decision. When the tiny decisions he has made get into trouble, like Richardson, he quickly backs away. He did the same thing with Wright and Ayres. I can’t see the military or the intelligence people taking chances with a wuss like O behind them. Far behind them.

    MIke K (2cf494)

  60. He could be OK but I think he will be another Carter.

    Not quite, Mike K. Carter also had a record as Governor.

    Paul (creator of "Staunch Brayer") (36bd45)

  61. Comment by daleyrocks — 1/18/2009 @ 12:13 pm

    love2008 who will now be known as Emperor7 (1b037c)

  62. You’re just mad cause you lied about what daleyrocks said and he called you on it.

    happyfeet (4eacbc)

  63. Whiner.

    The search-and-destroy team was out for Bush long before he was inaugurated.

    Comment by Paul (creator of “Staunch Brayer”) — 1/18/2009 @ 11:15 am
    Did you not whine then?

    love2008 who will now be known as Emperor7 (1b037c)

  64. Comment by happyfeet — 1/18/2009 @ 1:00 pm
    Who are you? His girlfriend?

    love2008 who will now be known as Emperor7 (1b037c)

  65. Did you not whine then?


    Paul (creator of "Staunch Brayer") (36bd45)

  66. love2008,

    You don’t have to take our word for it.
    No DRJ, I will take your word for it. Do you not share a little bit of the enthusiasm? Do you not have hope for the best? I know you do. Just a little bit.

    love2008 who will now be known as Emperor7 (1b037c)

  67. feets – Lovey has been in constant orgasm mode for the Messiah since he cheated the nomination away from Hillary early last year. I would not be surprised if she illegally exceeded individual contribution limits along with so many others to help him buy the Presidency. She has been stocking up on batteries for her various toys in preparation for Tuesday since November. She’s even less trustworthy the the dirty socialist PeBHO.

    daleyrocks (5d22c0)

  68. Will his volunteers get nice spiffy tan shirts?

    SPQR (26be8b)

  69. oh. She sort of has an odd fixation on this president-elect person, and I mean quite apart from of his dirty socialist splendors. I think people like Ms. love2008 person are forgetful that part of the deal of being even a nominally free person is that the relationship of the executive to the self is supposed to be attenuated. Markedly attenuated. Or at least one should have the dignity to pretend that it is. I blame tv.

    happyfeet (4eacbc)

  70. oh. *quite apart from his dirty socialist splendors* is what that should say. Really though, marketing people work tirelessly to produce crap for you to identify with what’s a LOT more compelling than some grad school dirty socialist goofball wannabe-pezzydent Soros wench.

    happyfeet (4eacbc)

  71. Comment by daleyrocks — 1/18/2009 @ 1:23 pm
    Jerking off already? You ought to be banned. You have sh*t for brains. Moron.

    love2008 who will now be known as Emperor7 (0c8c2c)

  72. love2008,

    I’m hard-wired to be an optimist so I always hope for the best, but I’m not optimistic about Obama’s impact on America. Why? Because he seems hard-wired to view government as the answer to every problem, and government will always be an inefficient solution.

    If it’s any consolation, I would have been concerned about McCain, too. I supported McCain because he was more likely to embrace tax cuts that will strengthen the American economy. But I doubt Obama and McCain are very far apart on domestic issues that matter to me such as immigration and government regulations like McCain-Feingold. Thus, as a conservative Republican, McCain’s loss has a silver lining for me: I’m glad he won’t be the leader of my Party.

    DRJ (345e40)

  73. Comment by DRJ — 1/18/2009 @ 1:50 pm
    That’s the difference between DRJ and …well the rest of the others.
    But you have to agree that at this point, DRJ, govenment needs to intervene and save the day. That is the practical way forward, don’t you think? Government is not the solution, most times it is the problem. But right now, a little gov’t assistance will do.

    love2008 who will now be known as Emperor7 (0c8c2c)

  74. The Magic Negro is a snake oil salesman, nothing more. The idiots who voted for him don’t know any better or they do and have radical/leftism as their worldview. In other words, they are anti-Americans. He has virtually no documented record for he avoiding making any tough decisions as a state legislator or in his brief Senate career (mostly spent running for president).

    The Magic Negro has been friends with numerous, REPEAT NUMEROUS scandalous anti-American scum-bags, whether racists, communists, radical Muslims, etc. and our illustrious media/press ran interference for him for the last two years, hardly every bringing up his associations.

    MockTheOne (f6cafd)

  75. Government created our economic woes. We are simply in a recession, nothing more but politicians, especially B. Hussein, like to create the impression that the sky is falling, therefore we must give him and the rest of DC more and more power.

    It’s a recession. We’ll climb out of it by the end of the year because the natural business cycle will kick in. It won’t be because of any government action, that’s all smoke and mirrors to garner voting and allegiance.

    rssg (f6cafd)

  76. Lovey @72 – You have a potty mouth. Do you kiss your kids with it?

    daleyrocks (5d22c0)

  77. Comment by MockTheOne — 1/18/2009 @ 2:17 pm
    Racist idiot!

    love2008 who will now be known as Emperor7 (0c8c2c)

  78. love2008,

    Government was the answer in the initial stages of this financial crisis because it was the only source with deep enough pockets to unfreeze the credit markets. But Congress waffled and then piled on the pork, so the credit markets stayed frozen and the opportunity was lost. At this point we’re just shoveling good money after bad.

    DRJ (345e40)

  79. Comment by daleyrocks — 1/18/2009 @ 2:28 pm
    You really wanna do this, dildorocks? Don’t go running to DRJ or Patterico for cover when your big ass gets kicked in here. You really wanna do this? (Hey wipe that drool off your mouth, moron!)

    love2008 who will now be known as Emperor7 (0c8c2c)

  80. We will likely not pull out of the recession this year because B Hussein Obama and the other dummycrats are reprising the catastrophic failures of FDR’s “alphabet soup” big government actions.

    Shut down the House and Senate, enforce all the laws on the books, remove all businesses from “government entity” status and the economy will boom.

    John Hitchcock (fb941d)

  81. Emptroll, quit while you’re behind.

    John Hitchcock (fb941d)

  82. love2008, complete and utter nonsense. The government does not “need” to intervene and its hardly going to “save the day”.

    Obama claims his stimulus package will create 3 million jobs. A rather ludicrous claim, but even if true, they will cost us more than a quarter of a million dollars per job.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  83. Daley and love2008,

    I guess I’m in charge today so here’s the deal: Call a truce or I’ll start a post with a special debate to keep you both occupied. By now you should know that I lack Patterico’s flair for creating fun debates, so anything I come up with will probably bore you both to death. You don’t want that, do you?

    DRJ (345e40)

  84. Comment by SPQR — 1/18/2009 @ 2:44 pm
    SPQR, government is already intervening. That boat has sailed. I know it’s a bitter pill. Sometimes it gets bitter before it gets better.

    love2008 who will now be known as Emperor7 (0c8c2c)

  85. Emptroll, quit while you’re behind.

    Comment by John Hitchcock — 1/18/2009 @ 2:42 pm
    You can jump in, John. There is room for more.

    love2008 who will now be known as Emperor7 (0c8c2c)

  86. Comment by DRJ — 1/18/2009 @ 2:51 pm
    Unilateral cease-fire has not worked for Israel. Even when they honor it, those creeps on the other side perceive it as weakness. Know what I mean?

    love2008 who will now be known as Emperor7 (0c8c2c)

  87. Okay, then you can sit out. Meanwhile, daleyrocks can decide whether to call a truce or sit out with you. I don’t expect either of you to agree, just stand down.

    DRJ (345e40)

  88. love2008 #85 – you don’t really have any grasp of the economics involved, do you? Obama’s “stimulus” is just an attempt to ladle out pork and then take credit for the natural business cycle. Its akin to the Aztecs making a human sacrifice and then taking credit for the next days’ sunrise.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  89. OFA is what you get when you merge Intl-ANSWER with ACORN.

    I have heard many people comment that the rent in the social fabric of contemporary America closely resembles what was occurring in the run-up to the Civil War.

    An organization such as OFA, and BHO’s comment in the campaign about a civilian structure that rivals the military, do not calm my anxieties.

    AD (1593f9)

  90. “The old CREEP never recruited an “army” of workers, to my knowledge. This is unprecedented.”

    The old CREEP engaged in breaking and entering and bugging/wiretaps. Sticking to legal first amendment activities might be unprecedented.

    imdw (2946bf)

  91. Jesus Obama will not likely last long in office…..impeachment rumblings will start by spring, when enough Americans wake up to the fact that the BHO zombies put an unacomplished leftist in the White House.

    I’ll keep my money and guns, you can keep your hope and change. 🙂

    BarryDunhamSoetoroObama (f6cafd)

  92. from Lawrence Auster’s View from the Right:

    Without turning on the TV and getting sick from the spectacle of liberal America’s ultimate orgasm, I can find out what’s going on by reading the Web. Thus Powerline reports:

    Ironically, earlier today I had drafted for later posting this question: What, other than being tall and thin and coming (nominally) from Illinois, does Obama have in common with Abraham Lincoln?

    And now, without having asked the question, I’ve learned the answer. Obama’s not falling to pieces after losing the New Hampshire primary (even though he had just astonished the world with his victory in the Iowa caucuses and was still the favorite for the nomination) was the moral equivalent of President Lincoln’s continuing to fight to restore the Union, despite devastating defeats for the Union side, hundreds of thousands of dead, and intense opposition to the war among some elements in the North.

    Brokaw, whom I have long regarded as the most hateful of all the figures in the news media, has just carried hype to a whole new level. What drives such a gross, shameless falsification? It is this. For Brokaw, the central fact about America, and thus the biggest thing in the world, is white America’s guilt over its treatment of blacks, and the advance of blacks to make up for it. The election of a half-black, half-white person as president is thus the greatest event in history. And therefore any setback, no matter how minor or predictable, that Obama faced on the path to his election is equal to the greatest setbacks in history, and Obama’s “achievement” in overcoming that setback is equal to the greatest, most difficult, and most painful achievements in history–particularly the successful prosecution of the terrible war that ended black slavery.

    Yes. It’s not the legislation passed during the First Hundred Days of Obama’s presidency that will be his most notable achievement, but the 75 days of hype preceding his presidency. After that, it will be all downhill.

    BeT (f6cafd)

  93. DRJ – Sorry, I was off the boeard and did not see your comment. I’m more than happy to stand down like the Israelis in Gaza, IYKWIMAITTYD.

    daleyrocks (5d22c0)

  94. The old CREEP engaged in breaking and entering and bugging/wiretaps

    Give OFA time … the Obamabots have already shown themselves capable of spamming, phone jamming and physical assault of people who disagree with The One.

    And illegally accessing government databases to go after dissenters.

    Darleen (187edc)

  95. You guys are so different from, well the others. I mean the millions of Americans who are excited to be alive to see this new administration.

    Yeah, we are different from the lightweights who heard nice speeches about hope and change, and happily lulled themselves into believing that the kind of change Obama had in mind just happened to match their own ideas of what kind of change was needed. Different in that we were, like, awake.

    Why don’t you people share a bit of the enthusiasm and have a little faith that this new presidency will be much better than the last four years?

    Because so far, BHO hasn’t given us any reason whatsoever to believe that the new presidency will be as good, let alone “much better.” Other people’s irrational exuberance does not inspire confidence, either, at least not in those of us who think for ourselves rather than running with the crowd.

    Where do you get the strenght to be so pessimistic?

    From having actually examined the guy’s record, and actually paid attention to what he said he would do. Maybe four years from now it will become clear that he ran on one set of horrible ideas but actually governed under a completely different set of good ones. There is absolutely no reason why anyone should expect that now.

    Xrlq (62cad4)

  96. As for the millions who are thrilled by the election of some guy they know almost nothing about, and hadn’t even heard of four years ago, let’s just say that half the population is dumber than average.

    Xrlq (62cad4)

  97. Nigerian phishing scammers need to get that email list.

    nk (9097f8)

  98. Darleen:

    The old CREEP engaged in breaking and entering and bugging/wiretaps

    Give OFA time … the Obamabots have already shown themselves capable of spamming, phone jamming and physical assault of people who disagree with The One.

    And illegally accessing government databases to go after dissenters.

    Not to mention disabling credit card controls that prevent illegal political campaign donations.

    DRJ (345e40)

  99. disabling credit card controls that prevent illegal political campaign donations.

    Why is it he can move forward, black or not, having done this. It was illegal. Illegal donors. False names. Illegal money. Illegal – – and they don’t even care.

    He is so lacking of ethics, it makes a crook look reasonable by comparison. That as we know is character not skin color.

    Vermont Neighbor (ab0837)

  100. DRJ, why can’t I see my comments on this or any thread? Am I in trouble? 🙂

    love2008 who will now be known as Emperor7 (1b037c)

  101. I guess not.

    love2008 who will now be known as Emperor7 (1b037c)

  102. Instead of “eightmaps” there will be “dissentermaps” at Google and Obama’s army of volunteers can come to visit you and “persuade” you to agree with the Messiah.

    Sounds fabulous.

    drjohn (862e69)

  103. “Papparazi presidency” sounds so much nicer than Cult of Personality, which is really what this is. drjohn #103 is probably right. It’s only a matter of time before some of the true believers put together a map of all registered Republicans to be “persuaded”.

    dave (cfc3ff)

  104. They’re welcome to come by and try to “persuade” me with their usual methods –
    they should just remember the words of Col Trautman about what supplies they will need.

    AD (c9522d)

  105. An amusing aside, evidently Canada refused to admit Bill Ayers. Now isn’t that interesting?

    SPQR (26be8b)

  106. SPQR,

    It is interesting. I especially liked Ayers’ explanation:

    “It seems very arbitrary,” he said. “The border agent said I had a conviction for a felony from 1969. I have several arrests for misdemeanors, but not for felonies.”

    Great defense!

    DRJ (345e40)

  107. SPQR – That was a pretty funny story. Ayers – What did I do?

    daleyrocks (5d22c0)

  108. I wish I knew him better. He could have gotten me into Canada.

    John Hitchcock (fb941d)

  109. The comments on this website remind me of comments on websites devoted to bashing Bush in assinine ways. It is a good example of perception is everything-except the truth.

    Nancy (c9edee)

  110. Comment by Nancy — 1/19/2009 @ 7:31 pm

    Ah, an annoited one has spoken to us, the great unwashed mass. I feel elevated already.

    AD (c9522d)

  111. white America’s guilt over its treatment of blacks, and the advance of blacks to make up for it.

    Speaking of which, and in light of the person whose birthday is honored today, do most people realize that no other single American has been given a similar celebration? Of course, there’s Christopher Columbus Day, but that’s comparatively low key and almost retrograde in how it’s not observed as widely by many people or workplaces, or treated with much or really any genuflection.

    As for the original observances of George Washington’s and Abraham Lincoln’s birthdays, those two days have been squished together over the past several years and tossed into the pile of the rather generic (and somewhat faceless) “President’s Day.”

    Mark (411533)

  112. ^ Actually, I misspoke. Columbus obviously was not an American. So actually no other person but one who’s associated with US history is given a day of his (or her) own.

    Mark (411533)

  113. I want to point something out that I feel many feel …..

    I have no guilt over my treatment of blacks or for that matter my family’s treatment.

    So frankly, all those in that camp GFY.

    With respect to BHO Hope and Change — I HOPE blacks stop make excuses cuz that would sure be CHANGE.

    Da'Shiznit (df1dcc)

  114. Also Memo to Blacks and Guilty Whites

    BHO is African and White American.

    He has not one drop of African American in him.

    Put that in your pipe and think about it for awhile.

    Anyway. I am sick of the patty cake sillines in the media.

    Da'Shiznit (df1dcc)

  115. Thank God we have a chance to work for change in this country after the many destructions of the last eight years. I am simply a person who cares about her country, and I’m thrilled to be on President Obama’s email list. I will back him when I agree with his goals. Look more closely, think for yourself, and maybe you’ll realize we’ll be making our country a better place for you and your family, too.

    Sharon (f8f64b)

  116. Sorry, Sharon, I have no use for socialism in health care. It has failed everywhere it has been tried. I have no use for “soak the rich” mentality. It has destroyed jobs every time implemented. I have no use for the false science of “catastrophic global warming” as all the true science shows “global warming” to be a non-starter. I have no use for a gargantuan monolithic central government as such is a government that enslaves its population.

    The Democrat Party forced banks to deal in bad mortgages for years, calling “racism” every attempt to correct this issue. The Democrat Party set up Fannie and Freddie and insulated those monstrosities from proper oversight. Fannie and Freddie fed huge sums of money to Dem coffers, with Obama number 3 on the list of recipients. Then the housing market collapsed, precipitating the banking collapse. And the Democrats blamed greedy bankers (when the Democrats set up the conditions for it to happen.)

    Then, in a possibly unrelated incident, oil jumped from $30 a barrel to around $150 a barrel, causing gasoline prices to triple. I say possibly unrelated because there was no proper oversight in the banking/mutual market futures trading so the government cannot determine who was doing what in that market. I personally find it fishy this price spike happened when McCain got a lead in the polls and fell back off after Obama got elected.

    Add to all that, the racist remarks of Obama’s 20-year pastor, the terrorist friend, the racist priest friend, all the ACORN garbage (which is easily attached to Obama’s shirt-strings) and you have someone of very poor repute fashioning a socialist monolithic state.

    No thanks, I’ll pass.

    John Hitchcock (fb941d)

  117. Sorry to tell you but the Republican platform has failed us miserably and people are tired of politics as usual. But when your party any your candidate looses one becomes rather juvenile and begin to find fault with what is happening now. Hey let’s wait it out for at least a year and then start bitching. The mess we are in is due so much to our past administration their choice to use fear,terror, and deregualtion as a weapon. We’re paying the price so put the blame on whom it belongs and move forward as a nation.

    Jeff (bf596a)

  118. The far right’s references to Hitler whenever our new President’s name comes up shows just how out of touch they are with the American public (and American values, like fair play). All Obama did was run the most widely funded and volunteer-driven campaign in history. And he addressed issues voters actually cared about (like the economy) while the other side ran the most dispiriting anti-ideas campaign in history (should I just mention that fraud, Joe the Plumber). Enjoy the next 8 years, guys.

    musial (08f91e)

  119. The far right’s references to Hitler whenever our new President’s name comes up shows just how out of touch they are with the American public (and American values, like fair play).

    Shall I point out, item by item, the similarities between the Nazi Party’s platform, and that of the Democratic Party?

    And it’s hilarious that NOW the left has problems with likening someone with Hitler. Sure didn’t bother you dopes much over the last several years.

    And he addressed issues voters actually cared about (like the economy)

    Yes, and lying about it, mocking his opponent for saying something he would later say in his inaugural address, and otherwise obfuscating fact with a veil of hopeychangitude.

    (should I just mention that fraud, Joe the Plumber)

    Please. I fucking DARE you to list the ways in which the man is/was a fraud.

    I absolutely dare you…

    Scott Jacobs (a1c284)

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