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The Real Charles Manson

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 2:27 pm

In the wake of Bill Ayers’s op-ed in the New York Times today, titled The Real Bill Ayers, I have obtained Charles Manson’s submission to Times editors, titled “The Real Charlie Manson.” Some excerpts:

Over the years, I have been cast in the role of “1960s-era mass murderer.” Now that the election is over, I want to say as plainly as I can that the character invented to serve this drama wasn’t me, not even close.

Here are the facts:

I never killed or injured anyone. I did join the civil rights movement in the mid-1960s, and became a big fan of the Beatles. I was a songwriter and admittedly a bit of a drifter. In the late 1960s, I founded the Manson family.

The Manson Family crossed lines of legality, of propriety and perhaps even of common sense. Our effectiveness can be — and still is being — debated. We did carry out symbolic acts of extreme vandalism directed at monuments to war and racism, Roman Polanski’s front door, Leno LaBianca’s refrigerator, and Sharon Tate’s and Leno LaBianca’s abdomens. The attacks on property, never on people — unless you consider the pigs we slaughtered to be people, ha ha — were meant to respect human life, by repeatedly taking it.

I have been cast as “unrepentant” just because I have repeatedly told the parole board that I wanted to live among snakes and spiders in the desert and be a “force of darkness” tormenting the world. I’m certainly at least as “repentant” as Bill Ayers, who was quoted as saying that he didn’t regret what he did, and felt he didn’t do enough.

Regrets? I’ve had a few. These include mistakes of excess and failures of imagination, posturing and posing, inflated and heated rhetoric, blind sectarianism, failing to off that loudmouth bitch Susan Atkins while I had the chance, and a lot else. No one can reach my age with their eyes even partly open and not have hundreds of regrets. This swastika scar in my forehead is lopsided. Why didn’t I carve it with more care? Etc.

There is a long and sad history of guilt by association in our political culture, and at crucial times we’ve been unable to rise above it.

The Manson Family and I sat around on a ranch together; we lived in the same diverse and yet close-knit community; we sometimes passed in the bookstore; we held wild sex parties. You might even say we were “Family friends.” But while we may have given each other gonorrhea, we didn’t pal around.

Hey, I didn’t say it was iowahawk. If you want iowahawk, read iowahawk.

Ace reminds us that the New York Times wouldn’t publish an op-ed by John McCain on Iraq because, they said, it offered no new information and merely attacked McCain’s opponent. Yet Ayers is allowed to minimize his role in an organization that most assuredly did kill people, portray himself as repentant when he has said he is not, and generally twist the facts in a million other ways.

Ace’s post is valuable in many other ways, not the least of which is his reference to “a piece of crap blog calling itself ‘The Moderate Voice.'” Read it all.

30 Responses to “The Real Charles Manson”

  1. And we’re surprised by the NY Slimes how? I just rest happy in the fact that the NY Slimes is rapidly going out of business, along with most of the rest of the “mainstream media.” Bill Ayers is a worthless little piece of Sh*t and the NY Slimes isn’t worthy of being bird-poop liner.

    J. Raymond Wright (0440ef)

  2. Forget it Pat, it’s the Times!

    Interesting in that Chinatown was Polanski’s last US movie, and it so aptly applies.

    Another Drew (98abde)

  3. The man exudes charisma and I’m sure France would be more than happy to give him sainthood. Interesting site:

    Perhaps someone could comment on his artwork or who actually benefited from keeping him alive. Anyway he is in his seventies. How much has California spent on this scumwad?

    I note Susan Atkins has had $1.15 mil in state paid medical care since March 18TH??? And guarding her hospital room $308,000. If she’s paralyzed on one side what does the state fear? So she has only a few months to live at age 60? Boo hoo.

    madmax333 (0c6cfc)

  4. They (the Manson Family) should all die in a cold, dank cell!
    A Pox on all of them.

    Another Drew (98abde)

  5. But, but AD, manson girl atkins-whitehouse is no danger to anyone and some think deserves compassionate release. She’s married to a lawyer. One wonders what the story is behind that?
    In any case if you Rightwingers care to show some compassionate conservatism, you can write to the California Parole Board in care of her husband:
    James Whitehouse
    32742 Alipaz St. #65
    San Juan Capistrano,
    CA 92675

    Don’t know who you write to urge Charlie’s release.

    madmax333 (0c6cfc)

  6. Ayers has proven he’s an expert at the lie and he’s smarter than anyone at the NY Slimes, which isn’t saying much in either area.

    Scrapiron (dda662)

  7. I stand by my remarks in #4, above.
    Compassion would be the denial of medical care and just letting them die.
    It would extend to them the same level of compassion that they extended to the LoBianco’s, Sharon Tate, Abigail Folger, and the others.
    They made their bed, no they should die in it.

    Another Drew (98abde)

  8. They made their bed, now they should die in it.

    Another Drew (98abde)

  9. Manson and friends should have fried within 30 days of conviction. I don’t worry about how much it cost fools to keep mass murderers in prison. Bleeding hearts got him there instead of the chair so let them pay to the natural end of his days. I’m glad I got out of Ca long ago and live in a give them the ‘needle’ state when there’s not a dumocrat in the governors office.

    Scrapiron (dda662)

  10. The Deciders!

    Techie (07c8ee)

  11. Everyone is posting about Manson — I think someone should compliment you on your very funny satire!

    Anonymous (0d6d87)

  12. You’re not Iowahawk? You could have fooled me. This is pretty funny.

    DRJ (b4db3a)

  13. Funny stuff…had me going until the lopsided swastika… somehow that just didn’t quite ring true.

    Dana (79a78b)






    reliapundit (7fc06d)

  15. LOL. Great work. You too could ghost write for Obama just like Ayers.

    And Charles also wants to give a shout out to funny co-vandal, Bernadine Dohrn, for her fork salute tribute.

    I guess the NYSlimes is terribly saddened that Sadaam isn’t around to grace its oped pages about how he was made an unfortunate victim of American politics without his consent.

    I guess we should be grateful that the NYSlimes didn’t run these whitewashes by Hitler (a vegetarian with heart, had great public works and housing programs with state of the art shower facilities); Mussolini (some youthful extravagances, but great transit policy); Mugabe (refused to cave into mega agribusiness exploitation); and Fidel (a Harvard graduate with no prior executive experience, what could go wrong?)

    eaglewingz08 (080c62)

  16. It wasn’t that funny, but that’s because I don’t get it. Where is Ayer’s alledged body-count?

    The murders mentioned on the wikiepedia page were committed by cops:

    Jason (3207c8)

  17. Give Ayers a break. He’s got a book to sell and a position waiting for himself in the Obama administration. He has to whitewash and minimize the dasty bits from his past even if his statements directly conflict with prior evidence. Obama did it throughout the campaogn and it didn’t hurt him. Liberals and commies are immune to the consequences of lies it seems.

    daleyrocks (5d22c0)

  18. No one can reach my age with their eyes even partly open and not have hundreds of regrets.

    Well, I have some regrets (or maybe not, depending on what I had for breakfast). But HUNDREDS of them? And this with his eyes OPEN? My word, does the guy (Ayers) even have a clue what he is/was about?

    It would be pathetic and sad, if it hadn’t first been so deadly. Or were his “hundreds” of regrets actually “missed opportunities to strike”?

    SteveS (86f7a1)

  19. The NYTimes has a better opinion of Bill Ayers than it does on John McCain.

    I am going to enjoy watching The Grey Hag twist in the wind in a few more fiscal quarters.

    Techie (07c8ee)

  20. As I recall, Charlie was asked if he had any regrets. His answer was that maybe he didn’t do enough. Ayers ain’t even original.

    slickdpdx (b528b5)

  21. This is brilliant! Ayers forgot to mention that his Weathermen group spoke about what they would do when his radical group took over the United States. An undercover FBI agent told us that the Weathermen wanted to set up re-education camps in the southwest and those of us capitalists who couldn’t be re-educated into the communist way, then we would have to be eliminated (ie: killed). They estimated they would have to “eliminate” 25 million of us! Now with Obama wanting to form a “Civilian National Security Force” as powerful, as strong and as well funded as the military, it makes you wonder! He did say this in a July 2nd speech in Colorado and still to this day no one has asked him about it. The video was on Youtube, I’m not sure if it’s still there, however, someone probably has it if you want to see and hear it for yourself. These far left radicals can’t be trusted and with a probable depression (caused almost entirely by Democrats!) on the way, anything will be possible! Prepare yourselves for a bumpy ride!

    CrusaderPatriot (61b224)


    I can’t believe I never thought of that: Ayers is rehabilitated from what?

    I feel kind of stupid for not having put that together. Thanks for opening my eyes reliapundit.

    We have to suffer through at the very least 4 years of this farce administration, I wish I could just hibernate until 2012.

    My Awesome Mix Tape #6 (cea68d)

  23. I have always had a soft spot for the Times, NY or LA. Good for fish and painting. Good for bird cages.

    jubal (e5a3c2)

  24. That was great, Patrick!

    Ayers has proven he’s an expert at the lie…

    Unfortunately, he didn’t have to try very hard– the Slimes will put the lipstick on any pig and call it truth if it serves their agenda.

    Patricia (ee5c9d)

  25. I used my Times today to mask off some rusty auto wheels for a spray can painting. The Times, they are useful.

    torabora (cf897c)

  26. The NYT wouldn’t publish McCain’s editorial because he is a murderer who dropped bombs on innocent civilians. The NYT published Ayer’s editorial because he was a freedom fighter who stood up against an evil empire.

    Welcome to bizzaro liberal world.

    Roy Mustang (ad5f36)

  27. Osama Bin Laden didn’t actually fly Jets into the WTC either. Allowing Ayers to whitewash his past is disgusting at best. The comments page on the article shows how ignorant NY Times readers really are.

    Dennis D (ae900a)

  28. For those interested my site where Charles Manson ideas are presented and discussed.

    Mister X (dc91e7)

  29. Jason @ #16 is a twatwaffle.

    JD (059bab)

  30. Yes, Ayers has an old book which was out of print but conservative publicity has brought it back into print thus putting more money in Ayers pocket. Ayers is chuckling all the way to the bank.

    Mister X (dc91e7)

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