More on Obama’s Selflessness
Yesterday I pointed out that Obama accused John McCain and Sarah Palin of making a virtue out of selfishness — despite the fact that Obama and his running mate donated very little to charity, while McCain and his running mate were far more generous.
Another point about Obama’s Amazing Selflessness. Obama’s brother lives in Kenya on less than a dollar a month. Obama’s aunt lives in public housing.
Meanwhile, our selfless presidential candidate reported over $4 million in income in 2007.
Thanks to a Hot Air commenter.
I published this for a minute or two as a quote from the Hot Air commenter, but the quote overstated Obama’s brother’s income. So I took the post down within a couple minutes of publication and rewrote it to make the point clearer and more accurate.
Patterico (cc3b34) — 11/1/2008 @ 8:49 amRumor has it that Obama’s aunt is an illegal alien.
He is not an “unlicensed” plumber however, so its not news worthy.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/01/barack-obamas-kenyan-aunt-living-illegally-boston/
ML (14488c) — 11/1/2008 @ 9:00 amKenya’s cheap but you can’t live there (or anywhere) on less than a dollar a month.
You can live on less than that in cash income but that’s different and in a city you usually can’t even do that.
Unfortuantely The Telegraph’s web site seems to be timing out so I can’t check the original source but this has to be wrong.
Mike Friedman (d94419) — 11/1/2008 @ 9:02 amPatterico – Is the aunt in question Obama’s illegal alien aunt from Kenya who a judge told to leave the country four years ago? Gateway Pundit has the details.
Also, did Obama actually release his 2007 return or just summary information? I was under the impression he just released summary information.
In any event, running for President sure pays better than being a U.S. Senator.
daleyrocks (83b6c5) — 11/1/2008 @ 9:04 amThe Obamas donated $240,370 to charity last year, which is more than the McCains gave to charity despite the fact they earned more money than the Obamas.
Cindy McCain inherited $100,000,000 from her daddy’s gambling and liquor “enterprises,” yet her sisters got nothing from the estate or the McCains.
snuffles (677ec2) — 11/1/2008 @ 9:05 amThe Obama’s also gave:
$26,270 to Trinity United Church of Christ (whose pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. has made headlines for controversial sermons).
I know, I’m a racist for bringing it up.
Imagine the news media reaction if McCain had given $26,000 dollars to the KKK, this is the black KKK so its OK.
ML (14488c) — 11/1/2008 @ 9:11 amThe McCains use much of their “giving” to buy their less-than-genius children slots at exclusive private schools, ML.
And I don’t remember any of the Obamas stealing drugs from any of their charities, do you?
snuffles (677ec2) — 11/1/2008 @ 9:15 amIt is the paradox of the Democrat. I know several wealthy persons who profess to be Dem’s, and yet they are the cheapest, meanest, people I know. Even unto their own family, they will admit to: “sticking it to them”, arbitrarily and then justify this behavior upon their own imagined superior morality or judgment. As the old saying goes: “Scratch a socialist and they will bleed blue, just like an aristocrat”. Like “snuffles”.
C. Norris (da0d19) — 11/1/2008 @ 9:19 amFacts are stubborn things. C.Norris.
Faced with the fact that the Obamas are more charitable (and legal) in their giving than the McCains, all the right has left is phony anecdotes and baseless smears.
How’s that working out for you guys this election?
snuffles (677ec2) — 11/1/2008 @ 9:24 amIt’s no mere rumor. Even MiSiNformationBC felt compelled to run the “Obama’s Aunt Is Here Illegally” story.
Sometimes the truth does win out.
Icy Truth (84d054) — 11/1/2008 @ 9:27 amBaracky paid his pastor to tell everybody the United States started AIDS. Now he says if’n you elect my dirty socialist ass the world will love us again.
happyfeet (71f55e) — 11/1/2008 @ 9:27 amAnd the reason why snuffles keeps
Icy Truth (84d054) — 11/1/2008 @ 9:30 amlyingfibbing about who gives more is WHAT?snuffles
And now back to the preschool arguments of, “he did it first”, “but he did this also”.
So McCain getting his children a good education is far worst then the Obama’s giving money to the black KKK, OK.
That is some hard to beat logic you got going there.
ML (14488c) — 11/1/2008 @ 9:32 amBaracky never gave nothing to white people either. It was his hatey black church and some African dance troop and black schools and all race-based things. Baracky and M’chelle never even gave anything for Katrina cause they were afraid white people might get some of it. For real, snuffles can verify this.
happyfeet (71f55e) — 11/1/2008 @ 9:32 amMuch like children when they’ve become over tired and just plain incoherently kooky, I’m going to act charmed and amused by anything that comes out of the Right wing blogs and the McCain Campaign these last few days before the election as complete silliness takes over.
So in response to this post here goes:
*Clears throat and adopts my most sympathetic and faux delighted face.”
Gasp. No way!! Whoa…Ha ha.ho ho… Ya don’t say!!
*Slaps knee, shakes head in wonderment and chuckles warmly.”
Peter (e70d1c) — 11/1/2008 @ 9:37 amOnly made necessary by an election, otherwise their donations would be nada!
50/50 about now. Your “messiah” can’t seem to get his version of “loaves and fishes” above poling’s margin-for-error. The fat lady will sing on 05 Nov. Until then, it’s still an election.
C. Norris (da0d19) — 11/1/2008 @ 9:39 am‘Barack Obama went to New York on Thursday and blamed lobbyists, greedy businessmen and complacent Washington politicians for creating “an ethic of greed” that led to today’s foreclosure crisis.’
‘Senator Barack Obama released his 2007 tax return on Wednesday evening, reporting a household income of $4.2 million…’
‘Earlier this month, the Clintons released their tax returns over eight years, showing they earned $109 million over that period…’
If they had a Nobel Prize for hypocrisy, the libby wibbies would win it every year.
Dave Surls (5804db) — 11/1/2008 @ 9:39 amDarn it- Baracky didn’t know auntie was here illegally and ABCNews.com reports BO thinks the “appropriate” laws should be enforced. Give that man a cigar. At least the ONE wants our laws enforced while the Bush admin. issued a hands off directive taking into account political sensibilities? One law for thee and another for me?
#1 Dude sure doesn’t seem to have much knowledge about own blood, eh? And couldn’t help out his own family in need and instead takes illegal contributions from his own dear auntie?
Would be nice to learn just how much Obama does know about anything, but then he does has those hundreds of advisors to lend a hand.
madmax333 (0c6cfc) — 11/1/2008 @ 9:39 amOf course, there is a fundamental point of political philosophy to adhere to here: Charity should emanate from the federal govt in the form of welfare, health care, and income tax rebates to people that pay no income tax.
I guess you could say that Obama’s recent increase in charitable giving constitutes a flip-flop.
Icy Truth (84d054) — 11/1/2008 @ 9:41 amthe definition of integrity is doing what is right even when no one is looking
The Obama’s sudden interest in giving to private charity after deciding to run for President doesn’t fall into the definition of integrity
But “progressives” like the Obamas and the Bidens just figure public blather about how they will enforce legislation to confiscate money from earners and give it to non-earners, constitutes superior moral worth. See, wanting to actually keep one’s own earnings is “selfish”, regardless of the oft-time proven facts that redstate Americans give more per capita than bluestaters.
Darleen (187edc) — 11/1/2008 @ 9:41 am“If you take money from people who work and give it to people who don’t work, don’t be surprised to find a lot of people not working.”
~~Arthur Laffer
Darleen (187edc) — 11/1/2008 @ 9:42 amNow…now mister…don’t make me tell your parents youjust said that or they’ll wash your mouth out with soap! Ha Ha..Ho Ho…and stop hitting Snuffles with that stuffed toy!!
*Smiles warmly, lights pipe. Chuckles to himself*
(What will these nutty, charming over grown kids say next…)
Peter (e70d1c) — 11/1/2008 @ 9:43 am#1 Dude sure doesn’t seem to have much knowledge about own blood, eh?
— He knows how top throw them under the bus, which is exactly where dear old auntie will fall in 3 … 2 … 1 …
Icy Truth (84d054) — 11/1/2008 @ 9:45 am#1 Dude sure doesn’t seem to have much knowledge about own blood, eh?
— He knows how to throw them under the bus, which is exactly where dear old auntie will fall in 3 … 2 … 1 …
Icy Truth (84d054) — 11/1/2008 @ 9:45 am“overgrown” … they’re compound words; what’s so fucking hard about that?
Icy Truth (84d054) — 11/1/2008 @ 9:47 amThose racist publishers- I’m sure they gave both Bubba and Hillary more money for their ever-so-truthful tomes than the cash black Obama earned. Where’s the justice? And what are the fees each time various celebs give a speech? What discrepancies are there between black and typical whites? Why does Morgan Freeman make less than other actors who are white and old?
Why would a couple with two young children not have pets if not for lack of do-re-mi? Why does fresh fruit cost so much even when you make $4 mil a year? It isn’t fair that it took the struggling Obama family so long to pay off those dastardly student loans. Thank god Tony Rezko showed a little compassion helping aquire the modest Obama casa in Hyde Park. I am glad that the hated capitalistic Amerikkka allowed Michele o to have an appetizer costing a bundle though-what was it $500 or so?
madmax333 (0c6cfc) — 11/1/2008 @ 9:48 amNow..now…watch the language mister or I’m calling your parents right now!
Peter (e70d1c) — 11/1/2008 @ 10:21 amWhy? They already know how to spell.
Icy Truth (84d054) — 11/1/2008 @ 10:25 amHere’s Bill Maher’s weekly insane rant from last night’s show. Check out the video starting at 2:30.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yBdmMPKPYY
Right wingers love the Jews so much because they want them to die. Unbelievable.
Wesson (f6c982) — 11/1/2008 @ 10:27 amWhat really is the point of this post? I mean, really? First you accuse Obama of wanting to “spread the wealth around” and at the same time, you want to cast him as a frugal, tight-fisted person. Maybe you are realizing that being liberal isn’t such a bad thing. Now you want to say McCain spreads more wealth around than Obama. Aren’t you guys getting a little confused with this spinning? Which is it? Is Obama a wealth-spreading, liberal, giver or is he a frugal economist? You can’t have it both ways.
love2008 (1b037c) — 11/1/2008 @ 10:28 am“Meanwhile, our selfless presidential candidate reported over $4 million in income in 2007.”
That’s more than my wife and I have made in 35 years, and we actually worked for our money.
Which is fine with me. More power to the Obamas if they can skin the system, and make millions writing crap autobiographies (crap because the new messiah has never done anything worth writing about), playing politics, and pushing paper from desk A to desk B.
Just spare me the crap about other people’s “greed” or the inequality of the distribution of wealth. It ain’t too impressive coming from the likes of the ultra-rich messiah family, especially when they don’t seem to have much interest in helping out Obama’s poverty-stricken family members.
Dave Surls (5804db) — 11/1/2008 @ 10:33 amComment by love2008 — 11/1/2008 @ 10:28 am
frugal, tight-fisted person
The word you’re looking for is “penurious”.
Obama is just cheap!
No, what we are arguing is what almost every study of the subject for the last twenty years has shown:
Those families that self-identify as “conservative” have a higher level of giving, as a percentage of AGI, than families that self-identify as “liberal”.
This works across all classifications of demographics, location, and income.
Plus, politicians know that their tax-returns are going to be exposed to the public, and sifted through with a fine-tooth comb, just for little things like this. For them to still not engage in charitable giving is an act of extreme hubris, telling the electorate to “get f…ed”!
Another Drew (7e8922) — 11/1/2008 @ 10:38 amIn the words of a great man, “God Helps Those Who Help Themselves.”
Make some calls for McCain-Palin. It is easy, not as hard to make cold calls as I thought. They give you script and it is easy to do. Make 5, 10, 15, as many as you want. Choose your battleground (I did Pennsylvania and it was a lot of fun).
http://www.johnmccain.com/PhoneBank/?guid=0A517F03-C3ED-4A24-A14A-3BD9D5F32F2F
I made calls and it is rewarding. More rewarding than stocking chicken feed, ammo, rice and beans for the coming bad times. You can pick your battle ground and do some good.
Joe (dcebbd) — 11/1/2008 @ 10:41 amSay, Patterico, I don’t mind when Trolls du Jour write bizarre or crazy stuff. But when “snuffles” writes:
Aren’t we going after children again? Including one that is serving overseas? Besides, I doubt that this troll knows anything about the McCain kids (and I’ll also bet that any of those children scored higher on any standardized test…but maybe I am just angry at trollish behavior).
At what point is this troll going to be put on notice to leave kids out of it?
I understand the goal is stir people up and feel like a Big Person by talking all tough, but c’mon. Kids?
Didn’t we go through this before with another troll?
Eric Blair (2708f4) — 11/1/2008 @ 10:45 amOne liberal mantra might be “do as I say, not as I do.”
No doubt there are hypocritical and greedy Republicans also, but think about the holier-than-thou lifestyles, self-righteous, self-aggrandizing attitudes of such a motley crew as the Breckgirl, Lurch sKerry, algore, airhead huffington, fatboy (and big nimby) teddy kennedy, lardass/scruffy Mikey Moore. I’m sure you have your own picks. Obama gives one speech via teleprompter at the demmy convention and it makes him abe lincoln, god and Martin Luther King, jr. all rolled into one?
madmax333 (0c6cfc) — 11/1/2008 @ 10:49 amAs far as bobo’s pitiful squeaking, Obama doesn’t want his own money in the mix. Let those greedy capitalists pay out the dupa in taxes and also buy his literary masterpieces, eh? Let Obama provide lucrative earmarks for michelle’s “non-profit” hospital employer who then gives her a nice, fat $100+ K salary for sending indigent patients to competing hospitals to save her own ripoff hospital’s fat bottom line. What is it- something like a dozen vice presidents collecting over $300k each? People are too blind to evaluate O’s interpersonal relationships with much admired by elitists friends of O who are either racists, thieves or unrepentant terrorists. Once again, where are the normal people who don’t hate amerikkka?
meant the lovely Michelle’s annual raise was over $100k, but no doubt she was deserving of same and should have had more, given that whitey held her down for so long and also actually made her pay off student loans.
madmax333 (0c6cfc) — 11/1/2008 @ 10:51 amFirst you accuse Obama of wanting to “spread the wealth around” and at the same time, you want to cast him as a frugal, tight-fisted person. Maybe you are realizing that being liberal isn’t such a bad thing. Now you want to say McCain spreads more wealth around than Obama. Aren’t you guys getting a little confused with this spinning? Which is it? Is Obama a wealth-spreading, liberal, giver or is he a frugal economist? You can’t have it both ways.
Not for a second do I buy this as a genuine inquiry of concern but I’ll play along for a quick minute.
The point is to clearly illustrate that Obama is happy to spread other people’s wealth around while being stingy with his own, which in essence makes him a hypocrite.
See how easy it is when you take the assumption of spin out of the equation? But then, love2008, you already knew that.
Dana (658c17) — 11/1/2008 @ 10:51 amDon’t ban snuffles, the snark-fu is strong with that one
i like america (d2f951) — 11/1/2008 @ 10:51 amOne of the homes Cindy McCain caught grief for owning provides a home for…an elderly aunt!
(See: http://www.newsweek.com/id/143775/ )
There’s talking the talk, like Obama does, and then there’s walking the walk.
Best wishes,
Laura (d8da01) — 11/1/2008 @ 10:53 amLaura
Comment by Another Drew — 11/1/2008 @ 10:38 am
Do you really believe that in principle, Obama is a liberal? I think he has a conservative streak in his blood. It shows up from time to time. That is what I find appealing in him. BTW. I am a conservative. And I don’t mind spreading my wealth around. As long as it is towards worthy and just causes. To the best of my knowledge, Obama has fulfilled the Biblical injunction to “give as God has prospered you.”
love2008 (1b037c) — 11/1/2008 @ 10:55 amAmoral liberals are not going to become suddenly moral when it involves the kids of those racist baby eating republicans.
Its part and parcel of the adolescent illiberal double standards.
ML (14488c) — 11/1/2008 @ 10:58 amlove2008 — His OWN wealth, not that of OTHER PEOPLE! Voluntary as opposed to mandatory; given with an open heart rather than at the point of a gun!
Feel free to not be obtuse.
Icy Truth (84d054) — 11/1/2008 @ 10:59 amHere, complete in one totally devastating video, is the proof that Obama-Biden’s idea of who’s too rich to be middle class (and thus must suffer a tax increase) has declined from an income of $250,000, to $200,000, to $150,000–and now to $97,000, after reviewing Obama’s remarks during a primary-season debate with Hillary.
Hear Obama and Biden, in their own words, lie right in your face.
Official Internet Data Office (184273) — 11/1/2008 @ 10:59 ammadmax333 — For the first time in her life Michelle feels like an elitist.
Bring on the arugula!
Icy Truth (84d054) — 11/1/2008 @ 11:01 amBTW. I am a conservative.
— Oh baby! Is God ever going to get you for that one.
Icy Truth (84d054) — 11/1/2008 @ 11:03 amCamel dung. Any true conservative would be aghast at thought of saddling America with class warfare, confiscatory taxes, gummint monolithic health care in the Eurotrash mode that ends up with rationing and long waits, kissing the jealous UN/world’s collective butts or appeasing despotic hate-America enemies. Yes, little things like union check offs, “fairness doctrines” and a brownshirted army of civilian thugs are mostly certainly based on true conservative principles. But then bobo/tokyp rose and her minions already know that. Wonder what lib cesspool blogs the little girlie man contributes her “conservative commentary to? jajajaja
madmax333 (0c6cfc) — 11/1/2008 @ 11:05 am“A Boston Housing Authority director says Barack Obama’s aunt, a Kenyan woman who has lived in public housing for five years, is an “exemplary resident” and only recently did anyone know of her connection to the presidential contender.”
Sweet deal the Obama family has. They make millions, while their relatives live in tax-payer funded housing.
Makes me feel real good knowing that my tax money goes to provide living quarters for Obama’s illegal(?) alien aunt, while Mr. and Ms. messiah are making millions, buying mansions, sending their kiddies to private schools, and talking about how greedy everyone else is.
The new messiah looks like a real scumbag from where I’m sitting.
Dave Surls (5804db) — 11/1/2008 @ 11:08 amTo the best of my knowledge, Obama has fulfilled the Biblical injunction to “give as God has prospered you.”
love2008
I think that is pretty debatable, I would not consider 1% of total income as much in the way of charity, when compared to McCain and Palin. The Palins gave a much larger chunk of their limited cash and they have more mouths to feed then the Obama’s.
So in comparison Biden and Obama fail miserably, yet claim they are wealth spreaders as long as that gets you to vote for them.
ML (14488c) — 11/1/2008 @ 11:09 amComment by Icy Truth — 11/1/2008 @ 10:59 am
You are the one trying to be deliberately obtuse by trying to make something out of nothing. You all know what Obama said and meant. You know he is not a socialist. McCain has said so himself. So also Palin. All Obama is saying is that we should stop giving tax breaks to those who don’t need it so as to give a chance to people who need it. Folks like freaking Joe the Plumber! This is a position John McCain supported 8 years ago. That was before he became bed-fellow with George Bush.
love2008 (1b037c) — 11/1/2008 @ 11:12 am“Meanwhile, our selfless presidential candidate reported over $4 million in income in 2007.”
The USA needs a windfall profits tax on politicians who write self-serving books or go on speaking tours. This is especially required when said politician has a history of making meager charitable contributions or wasting his income on his kid’s summer camp or piano lessons.
Perfect Sense (9d1b08) — 11/1/2008 @ 11:16 amSpread the wealth with windfall profit taxes!
Comment by love2008 — 11/1/2008 @ 10:55 am
He is a Radical, Socialist, Authoritarian in the mold of the Black-Liberation Theologists that he looks up to.
If he was truly compassionate, we would not be learning of the aunt & uncle in Boston, nor of the step-brother in Kenya.
Another Drew (7e8922) — 11/1/2008 @ 11:20 amI again return to something I read some time ago about tribal responsibility in African culture:
The successful must support those left behind.
Obama seems to want to transfer that responsibility for his family from hinself, to the American Taxpayer.
45 How many houses does Obama have? How many does McCain have?
truthnjustice (d99227) — 11/1/2008 @ 11:21 amYes, let’s hear it for the little man, screwed over by the rich. Capitalism= greedy. Actually kind of funny to observe how some of the elite screaming for socialism and fairness make out like bandits under capitalism. How many little news people were laid off when Katie Couric collected her $14 mil or so? What is the range of salaries at such let’s kiss Obama’s ass media outlets? I’m sure Olberdouche’s $4 mil a year and whatever Obama leg humper Matthews make is reflective of what others there make- not millions but surely not union minimums??? Oh, and didn’t I read that Obama’s female staff in DC makes something like 83% of what the men make? No sexism there.
madmax333 (0c6cfc) — 11/1/2008 @ 11:23 amHow much free media praise does the Anointed one garner?
Comment by love2008 — 11/1/2008 @ 11:12 am
It’s that nuance, and inference thing.
Gets’ them every time!
If you were a true conservative, you would be dealing from facts
Another Drew (7e8922) — 11/1/2008 @ 11:24 am(#1 rule – words have meaning, and those meanings are not defived from “The Looking Glass”).
Liberals work from feelings, which is what nuance and inferences are all about.
You, in your past writings, have proven yourself to be a Liberal, not a conservative.
Comment by love2008 — 11/1/2008 @ 10:28 am
Someone is deliberately unclear on the concepts of voluntary giving and theft.
Darleen (187edc) — 11/1/2008 @ 11:25 amight wingers love the Jews so much because they want them to die. Unbelievable.
That meme is a long-cherished Leftwing blood libel.
Darleen (187edc) — 11/1/2008 @ 11:26 amComment by truthnjustice — 11/1/2008 @ 11:21 am
Who, but for trolls like you, gives a shit?
At least none of them were purchased through the efforts of a political fixer.
Another Drew (7e8922) — 11/1/2008 @ 11:27 amand another thing…
John McCain owns NO houses.
How’s that?
Another Drew (7e8922) — 11/1/2008 @ 11:28 amJohn McCain spent more time in a Vietnamese prisoner-of-war camp than Barack Obama has spent in the United States Senate.
Official Internet Data Office (184273) — 11/1/2008 @ 11:31 amWhile you all are discussing this ancillary garbage, Obama has racked up another endorsement… from the Ronald Reagan chief of staff. Yes, the chief of staff of the Republican Jesus has endorsed Obama. Nothing more to do now but thank McCain for playing.
truthnjustice (d99227) — 11/1/2008 @ 11:33 amRR had many Chief’s of Staff over the eight years of his Presidency…
Another Drew (7e8922) — 11/1/2008 @ 11:41 amDo you have anyone in particular in mind?
# 58
Yawn, followed by the sounds of crickets.
ML (14488c) — 11/1/2008 @ 11:42 amNo, an endorsement from Ken Duberstein, who was Reagan’s Chief of Staff for less than one year (1988-89), and only the last “lame duck” Chief of Staff after Reagan’s real Chiefs of Staff during his first seven years (Jim Baker, Donald Regan, and Howard Baker) is simply ancillary garbage. Duberstein’s wife is the producer of the Charlie Rose show! Do you think Kenny wants his wife to lose her job?
Official Internet Data Office (184273) — 11/1/2008 @ 11:44 amYou are the one trying to be deliberately obtuse by trying to make something out of nothing.
— You’re right. It’s just a coincidence that McCain & Palin give more than Obama bin “charity begins at the Treasury” Biden.
You all know what Obama said and meant.
— About what? “Spreading the wealth”? YES, we do know what he meant. It’s the same thing Karl ‘meant’.
You know he is not a socialist.
— I KNOW that he is.
McCain has said so himself. So also Palin.
— Not paying close attention, are we? Neither one of them said that.
All Obama is saying is that we should stop giving tax breaks to those who don’t need it so as to give a chance to people who need it.
— 1) EVERYBODY needs a tax break. 2) We can afford to give EVERYBODY (everybody that ACTUALLY PAYS taxes, that is) a tax break by CUTTING spending at the same time; but, of course, cutting spending is a foreign concept to liberals.
Folks like freaking Joe the Plumber!
— Joe’s question to Obama seems to have stumped you . . . as it did the candidate before you.
This is a position John McCain supported 8 years ago. That was before he became bed-fellow with George Bush.
Icy Truth (84d054) — 11/1/2008 @ 11:46 am— 1) John McCain NEVER supported increasing anyone’s taxes. 2) John McCain NEVER supported giving tax rebates to people that had not paid any taxes in the first place. 3) “bedfellow” – I’m seriously beginning to think that an inability to form compound words is a sure sign of liberal tendencies.
My wife and I made about $75,000 last year. We frequently take care of one of my nephews, because his parents are too crazy and irresponsible to properly raise the poor kid. When he stays at our house, we pay, not the government, and not the taxpayers, and that’s how it ought to be.
Compare and contrast with the scumbag Obama family, who earned $4.2 million last year, who leave their relatives living in poverty and let taxpayers like me (I paid about $7,500 just in federal income tax last year) pick up the tab for housing the messiah’s aunt. And, to add insult to injury she isn’t even an American, and apparently is an illegal alien to boot!
And, of course, this fabulous system was set up by liberal turds, just like the new messiah and his missus.
If anyone wonders why I hate Democrats with a passion…wonder no more.
Spread the wealth around, my ass.
Dave Surls (5804db) — 11/1/2008 @ 11:48 am# 59
Ken Duberstein, he says the Powell endorsement convinced him.
Only does a liberal believe that all of Reagan’s staff or any republican staff members are in goose step politically with them, so if they stray it can be used as proof that republicans are losing and fleeing in record numbers.
ML (14488c) — 11/1/2008 @ 11:48 amWow! After Colin Powell’s ringing endorsement (“A few bad apples on the conservative side said mean things about him, therefore I like his positions on the issues” [And people worry about McCain having a senior moment]) this just might tip the scales.
Icy Truth (84d054) — 11/1/2008 @ 11:50 amComment by Icy Truth — 11/1/2008 @ 11:46 am
Welcome Back, Icy.
Another Drew (7e8922) — 11/1/2008 @ 11:50 amAll rested and tanned for the sprint to the finish?
You know it, Drew. BTW, I really did fry my laptop by spilling a diet Pepsi on the keyboard. Finances dictate that I have to use borrowed computers on a catch-as-catch-can basis for now.
Early voted yesterday (McCain-Palin of course), and I’ll be here all day on Election Day.
Oh, and I don’t tan. I’m Conan O’Brien’s stand-in on Pale Force.
Icy Truth (84d054) — 11/1/2008 @ 11:57 am“According to Federal Election Commission documents filed by the Obama campaign, Onyango [Obama’s deadbeat illegal alien auntie, who is housed at taxpayer expense, so the millionaire Obamas can use their millions for more noble purposes] has contributed $260 to Obama over a period of time. Under federal election law, only U.S. citizens or green-card holders are legally permitted to give money to campaigns.”–Boston Herald
Ain’t that just too touching? The government takes my money (and your money too) at gunpoint, uses it to give a millionaire’s illegal alien aunt an apartment (because he won’t take care of his own), and then she somehow comes up with money to make apparently illegal donations to her millionaire nephew’s political campaign.
Get a clue, folks. She’s not donating her money, she’s donating YOUR money!
And, to top it off, the taxpayers also get to pay the government to deal with her asylum requests, and other matters pertaining to her being in the country illegaly.
What a racket.
And, half the country actually believes the new messiah and takes his spread the wealth bullshit seriously?
Well, like the sage said: No one ever went broke underestimating the stupidity of the American public.
Dave Surls (5804db) — 11/1/2008 @ 12:29 pmSomehow I think Obama’s aunt is not going to have any problems getting her Ameerican citizenship after Tuesday, dave.
I think you can stop worrying about her.
snuffles (677ec2) — 11/1/2008 @ 12:35 pmI tried to post this before but it looks like it didn’t go through…
Are you aware that the McCains use one of their houses to provide a home for an elderly aunt?
See: http://www.newsweek.com/id/143775/
One candidate talks the talk, but the other one walks the walk.
Best wishes,
Laura (d8da01) — 11/1/2008 @ 12:36 pmLaura
I seem to remember Ronald Reagn had to give John McCain’s first wife a job to help her pay the bills when John abandoned her and their children to fool around with Cindy, Laura.
Is that walking the walk our just walking out?
snuffles (677ec2) — 11/1/2008 @ 12:47 pmHold your horses folks. This Obama Aunt’s issue is about to backfire. First, who leaked it? Why now? Bush and McCain have some serious explaining to do.
love2008 (1b037c) — 11/1/2008 @ 12:47 pmLaura, that is a nice story.
Obama did not keep in contact with this particular aunt; he has a rather large paternal family tree.
Apples and oranges.
Go ahead, guys, and explain to me why this particular argument is black and white while others (like how Palin is innocent of the ethics violations that the bipartisan investigative committee reported) are more nuanced. Come on, sell the hypocrisy… I will be here.
My guess is that there won’t be a response to this other than. ‘Just another libtard’ or, ‘same old meme troll… ‘, etc. etc…. Nothing of substance.
truthnjustice (d99227) — 11/1/2008 @ 12:50 pmWhy doesn’t Obama say the tax increases will be for every dollar earned *over* $250k? He makes it sound as if you make $250k today, an extra $1 of earnings will cost you $20,000 when it will cost you about about 10 cents. That says something. Obama doesn’t even understand the simplest of tax concepts and that he has never really thought about it.
Wesson (f6c982) — 11/1/2008 @ 12:50 pmComment by Icy Truth — 11/1/2008 @ 11:57 am
Sorry to hear about your keyboard.
We’ve missed your incisive commentary and ability to pick-apart the trollery.
We’ve had some interesting visitors; no one I’d want to share a beer with though.
Another Drew (7e8922) — 11/1/2008 @ 12:52 pmComment by love2008 — 11/1/2008 @ 12:47 pm
It became public knowledge due to the actions of that infamous Right-Wing Conspiracy mouth-piece:
The Times of London.
When better reporting needs to be done, the foreign press will do it.
Another Drew (7e8922) — 11/1/2008 @ 12:54 pmNow that we know Obama’s aunt Zeituni Onyango is an illegal alien, and made illegal campaign contributions to her nephew, the next questions to ask about her are:
1) Is she registered to vote?
2) Has she ever voted?
We should know very, very soon!
Official Internet Data Office (184273) — 11/1/2008 @ 12:56 pmThe Left never tires of lying about the circumstances of this, do they? Who paid her medical bills, sniffles?
lovie – With Baracky returning the money to his aunt, how did that backfire?
JD (5b4781) — 11/1/2008 @ 12:57 pmWho has she supported every time he ran for office, sniffles?
JD (5b4781) — 11/1/2008 @ 12:58 pmJD, thanks for dropping bye.
Another Drew (7e8922) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:02 pmNow I can go take a nap, or something.
Ad – Troll infestation?
JD (5b4781) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:09 pmYes, the chief of staff of the Republican Jesus has endorsed Obama
Even Jesus Himself couldn’t stop one disciple from betraying Him.
Darleen (187edc) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:14 pmethics violations that the bipartisan investigative committee reported
What “committee”?
Seems tnj lives in the same dKos/Puffing alternate universe that sniffy does…
Darleen (187edc) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:17 pmWho has she supported every time he ran for office, sniffles?
Obama’s aunt supports him, too, JD.
Does that somehow make John McCain’s adultery all better?
Or are we just trying to forget John McCain’s sins to make Obama seem worse?
As I said before, there’s nothing Obama has done that McCain hasn’t done worse.
In this case, he abandoned his own wife and children.
Next smear, please.
snuffles (677ec2) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:20 pmLove2008, Bush and McCain have as much explaining to do over Obama’s illegal donations from his illegal aunt as Clinton and Gore do over GWB’s DUI, which of course is none. Debating politics with an Obama supporter is like playing Calvinball.
Xrlq (21b54e) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:21 pm‘The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma on the outskirts of Nairobi.’
‘Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate’s half-brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be more different than that of the Democratic contender.’
‘”No-one knows who I am,” he told the magazine, before claiming: “I live here on less than a dollar a month.”‘
‘According to Italy’s Vanity Fair his two metre by three metre shack…’
Man, that’s all I can take.
Barack and Michelle Obama are the absolute scum of the earth. Millionaires who let their own kin live in squalor, while they talk about spreading the wealth.
The new messiah isn’t fit to be a member of the human race, much less fit to be POTUS.
I can’t understand how any decent person could support this guy.
Dave Surls (5804db) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:21 pmDarleen… that ‘alternate’ universe is called reality. You should drop by sometime, its pretty logical here.
truthnjustice (d99227) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:23 pm86-Thank God we have finally found something in common, Mr. Surls. I couldn’t understand how any decent person could have voted for Bush in 04.
truthnjustice (d99227) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:25 pmSo dave,
McCain abandoning his wife and children isn’t a problem for you?
But Obama not sending a check to a half-brother he didn’t know about is?
You’re kinda messed up, dude.
snuffles (677ec2) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:27 pmObama was ranked the #1 most liberal senator in 2007 by the non-partisan National Journal, and Joe Biden was ranked the #3 most liberal. Both Obama and Biden were more liberal than the US Senator who actually calls himself a Socialist, Bernie Sanders of Vermont, who ranked #4.
Official Internet Data Office (184273) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:29 pmMcCain has never claimed to be perfect. He had, long ago, manned up to his responsibilities to his first wife. He has been married to Cindy 28+ years. ALL his children support him.
Message to Left cult members… the first Mrs. McCain has long ago forgiven her ex and supports him. Who the fuck died and gave you any moral standing on his actions? Which is pretty laughable since “morality” and “the Left” don’t ride in the same car.
Darleen (187edc) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:30 pmsnuffles, I like how you only want to compare the most recent year between Obama and the others.
Oh, and “abandonment” is a misrepresentation – but it is consistent with all the rest of your misrepresentations to date.
SPQR (26be8b) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:32 pmThis Obama Aunt’s issue is about to backfire. First, who leaked it? Why now?
— Gee, love. I wasn’t aware that her biography was a state secret.
Icy Truth (2295c7) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:34 pmDo you know how Chuck Norris deals with trolls? He points his right index finger at them, raises his right thumb, and then he says, “Bang!”
Official Internet Data Office (184273) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:35 pmNoTruthHere wrote: Obama did not keep in contact with this particular aunt
— Uh, yeah, he actually did. Read the MSNBC (you can trust them to not slant things to the right) story about this.
Icy Truth (2295c7) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:37 pmActually, what Chuck says is “When I want your opinion I’ll beat it out of you”.
[Kudos to anyone who knows the movie reference (one of his best) without looking it up.]
Icy Truth (2295c7) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:39 pm# 71 snuffles
And the Obama was doing coke and getting BJ’s from other men while he was married,
so what’s your point?
You do realize that comment only panders to a select few, half of all Americans are divorced and the other half could care less, at least until Obama nails that new male intern.
ML (14488c) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:39 pmSenator Obama has no knowledge of her status but obviously believes that any and all appropriate laws be followed.”
LASue (99a8b2) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:43 pmQuite a nuanced response which clearly means Obama believes that “inappropriate” laws need not be followed. Is it is up to him to determine which laws are appropriate and which are inappropriate?
“I seem to remember Ronald Reagn had to give John McCain’s first wife a job to help her pay the bills when John abandoned her and their children to fool around with Cindy…”
Like just about all lefties, you’re a class A liar.
“According to court records, McCain gave his wife full custody of their three children, possession of their two homes in Alexandria and Florida, and agreed to pay $1,625 a month in alimony and child support. He also agreed to pay daughter Sidney’s college tuition and his ex-wife’s medical expenses for the rest of her life.”–WaPo
Dave Surls (5804db) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:43 pmWho the fuck died and gave you any moral standing on his actions?
That’s funny coming from someone who labels anyone she disagrees with a “Nazi,” darleen.
As for moral standing, I could ask the question of all the righties trying(and failing) to smear Obama, couldn’t I?
snuffles (677ec2) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:45 pmsnuffles scrawled: I seem to remember Ronald Reagn had to give John McCain’s first wife a job to help her pay the bills when John abandoned her and their children
— Back here in reality-land, McCain has paid alimony and child support to his first wife FROM THE BEGINNING, and he STILL pays a form of alimony to pay for her medical bills.
Now let’s talk about the silky pony’s love child . . .
Icy Truth (2295c7) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:48 pm“But Obama not sending a check to a half-brother he didn’t know about is?”
More lies.
‘He has only met his famous older brother twice – once when he was just five and the last time in 2006 when Senator Obama was on a tour of East Africa and visited Nairobi.’
‘The Illinois senator mentions his brother in his autobiography, describing him in just one passing paragraph as a “beautiful boy with a rounded head”.’
He knew about him. Just didn’t give a crap about him.
Dave Surls (5804db) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:48 pmcoming from someone who labels anyone she disagrees with a “Nazi,” darleen
first you create a cartoon figure in your head, call it “darleen”, make up what it says, then attribute it to me.
sniffy, how long has it been since someone 5150’d you?
Darleen (187edc) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:49 pm#75 – Another Drew
We’ve had some interesting visitors; no one I’d want to share a beer with though.
— Not even by pouring your beer over their heads?
Icy Truth (2295c7) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:50 pmAnd it will still be a complete non-issue.
Hmmmm….I wonder what Obama could’ve been making in the private sector all this time if he didn’t go back to getting paid peanuts as a community organizer after graduating from Harvard Law?
As a president of the Review, he would’ve had his pick of the choicest white shoe firms in the country, and I can tell you he’d be making a heck of a lot more than $4 million dollars a year by now.
But no, he decided to devote years of his TIME and ENERGY to being a community organizer and a public servant.
Care to make put a dollar value to that? No, you can’t because some things are more important than money.
In a few days you overgrown right wing kiddies are going to get the spanking of your lives. And oh, how you deserve it.
And you will give proper respect and regard to the new president of these United States or maybe, you think America is only America when you have your party in power?
Hell, I gave George W. Bush almost a year and a half to get his act together, before I began to call for his impeachment.
Peter (e70d1c) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:51 pmLittle John’s alimony wasn’t enough to pay his family’s bills, IT. That’s why St. Ronnie gave her a job.
Menawhile, McCain was messing around with Cindy in Hawaiian luxury suites.
But that’s just the way John Mcain rolls.
snuffles (677ec2) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:52 pmWell, from the way you and most of your cohorts act here AD, I would’ve thought you were too young to go into a bar anyway.
Peter (e70d1c) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:53 pmIt’s amusing Peter, that your comment follows the one it does.
Eric Blair (a723e0) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:55 pm“Thank God we have finally found something in common, Mr. Surls.”
We both breathe oxygen. That’s about as far as it goes, sport.
Dave Surls (5804db) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:55 pmfirst you create a cartoon figure in your head, call it “darleen”, make up what it says, then attribute it to me.
Funny, darleen.
Your buzz from cheap wine may fade, but your words remain.
Try googling “Darleen” “Brownshirts” “Patterico” ans see what you get.
Here, I’ll do it for you:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Darleen+brownshirts+patterico&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
snuffles (677ec2) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:56 pm#84 – snuffilm
Or are we just trying to forget John McCain’s sins to make Obama seem worse?
— Yeah, ’cause you know that McCain did cocaine . . . and threw his grandmother under the bus (and backed over her two days later) . . . and upon meeting an unrepentant Marxist terrorist, said “I like the way you think; I’m going to write a positive review of your book in a major Chicago newspaper” . . . and told AIPAC “Jerusalem should remain the undisputed, undivided capital of Israel,” only to flip-flop 24 hours later . . .
In this case, he abandoned his own wife and children.
— A devout Catholic like Joe Biden, are you?
Icy Truth (2295c7) — 11/1/2008 @ 1:59 pmPeter, the dollar value of Obama’s community organizing was zero. Because he failed to better the situation of anyone at all. Likewise his time at CAC. No improvement despite hundreds of millions of dollars flowing through his fingers.
Imagine that.
SPQR (26be8b) — 11/1/2008 @ 2:07 pmsniffy
When people behave like brownshirts, I call them on the behavior.
That does not translate into calling everyone who disagrees with me a “Nazi.”
except in the empty space where you brain should be.
STOP torturing the language, you silly twit.
Darleen (187edc) — 11/1/2008 @ 2:10 pmLittle John’s alimony wasn’t enough to pay his family’s bills, IT. That’s why St. Ronnie gave her a job.
— And now she will get money back for doing nothing. How nice, though, that she has YOU to hate McCain for her . . . since she herself does not (hate him, that is).
Icy Truth (2295c7) — 11/1/2008 @ 2:11 pmI don’t think Obama would have cut the mustard as a lawyer coming out of Harvard.
Say what you want about those (did you say “white shoe”…?) firms, but one thing they well do is measure what your impact is on the firm’s bottom line.
By his own description of himself, Obama’s persona just out of law school didn’t seem to lend itself to economic achievement.
Coffee table book sucess aside, I think Obama will struggle with private sector economics.
“White shoe”
SteveG (71dc6f) — 11/1/2008 @ 2:11 pmRacist
“He’s a good guy. We are still good friends. He is the best man for president.”
~~Carol McCain
case.closed.
Darleen (187edc) — 11/1/2008 @ 2:15 pmSpeaking of brownshirts . . .
And you will give proper respect and regard to the new president of these United States or maybe, you think America is only America when you have your party in power?
— Und you vill address him as Der Messiah! Und you vill salute him! Und you vill perform community service in exchange for your
Icy Truth (2295c7) — 11/1/2008 @ 2:25 pmre-educationeducation!Oh, I see you didn’t like that post at all. Got all your delusions and wild speculations flowing again, didn’t it?
Here it is again:
“Now that we know Obama’s aunt Zeituni Onyango is an illegal alien, and made illegal campaign contributions to her nephew, the next questions to ask about her are:
1) Is she registered to vote?
2) Has she ever voted?
We should know very, very soon!”
Official Internet Data Office (184273) — 11/1/2008 @ 2:26 pmcomment by spicy poop
-translation: Yes, America is only America when the freedom to choose their own president has been taken away from the people.
truthnjustice (d99227) — 11/1/2008 @ 2:27 pmCoffee table book sucess aside, I think Obama will struggle with private sector economics.
— Ya know, if you position the short leg right between his eyes on the cover, that book will successfully keep your coffee table level (forced equality, what a concept).
Icy Truth (2295c7) — 11/1/2008 @ 2:28 pmBill Burton, a spokesman for the Obama campaign, issued the following statement in response to the AP’s reporting about Sen. Obama’s aunt: “Senator Obama has no knowledge of her status but obviously believes that any and all appropriate laws be followed. ”
Weird. That flies in the face of the ‘Obama knew his aunt was illegal’ lie that has been perpetrated on this site. .
truthnjustice (d99227) — 11/1/2008 @ 2:31 pmt’n’j, You get an “A” for the name (creativity from you AT LAST), but as for the comment . . . long protracted sigh.
Prove it or drop it.
Icy Truth (2295c7) — 11/1/2008 @ 2:33 pmI guess there’s NO POSSIBILITY that Bill Burton was lying — or repeating a lie told to him — is there?
Icy Truth (2295c7) — 11/1/2008 @ 2:35 pmtruthnjustice, actually the Obama statement is as truthful as any other quasi-denial Obama has made.
Like say, when Obama denied hearing any of Rev. Wright’s racist sermons, but Obama’s own memoir speaks of how Wright’s racist sermons struck a chord in Obama when he first encountered Trinity.
SPQR (26be8b) — 11/1/2008 @ 2:35 pmIt is not the job of the defendant to prove a universal negative.
truthnjustice (d99227) — 11/1/2008 @ 2:36 pmtruthnjustice
And Obama would never lie right?
Because we all know it takes a lot longer than 20 years just to figure out what the heck they preaching at church.
ML (14488c) — 11/1/2008 @ 2:37 pmIt is not the job of the defendant to prove a universal negative.
— Is that some kind of Alan Greenspan-speak for “How dare you not take the Chosen One at his word?”
Icy Truth (2295c7) — 11/1/2008 @ 2:40 pmWe probably all have relatives who would like or need money from us, but we have personal and private reasons for now supporting everyone we’re related to by an accident of birth.
As for McCain, many people get divorced. Get over it.
Terrence (1c8437) — 11/1/2008 @ 2:41 pmALL of my relatives are in this country legally; NONE of them has made an illegal campaign contribution.
Icy Truth (2295c7) — 11/1/2008 @ 2:45 pmcase.closed
Darleen aren’t John McCain’s adultery and divorce a sin against god?
snuffles (677ec2) — 11/1/2008 @ 2:51 pmProve that every one of your cousins stemming from at least up through your great grandparents have not fathered illigitimate children somewhere along the line that you do not know about that are here illegally. Good luck!
truthnjustice (d99227) — 11/1/2008 @ 2:52 pm[Deleted at the request of the commenter and others. — P]
ML (14488c) — 11/1/2008 @ 2:54 pmComment by Icy Truth — 11/1/2008 @ 1:50 pm
Why waste good beer.
Another Drew (7e8922) — 11/1/2008 @ 2:55 pmI could drink it first, then pour it over their head?
truthnjustice, actually that would be pretty easy for me. What’s your excuse for why it would be so hard for you to do so?
SPQR (26be8b) — 11/1/2008 @ 2:55 pmPatterico, #134 needs deletion.
SPQR (26be8b) — 11/1/2008 @ 2:57 pmComment by Icy Truth — 11/1/2008 @ 2:33 pm
Icy, I’ve found that the sobriquet of liesntyranny is more appropriate.
Another Drew (7e8922) — 11/1/2008 @ 3:00 pmI wasn’t speaking hypothetically. Do it. Now. Right here.
I was making the point that it is impossible. You can’t prove a universal negative. It is an exercise in stupidity.
truthnjustice (d99227) — 11/1/2008 @ 3:07 pmComment by snuffles — 11/1/2008 @ 2:51 pm
Your stupidity is a sin against God!
Another Drew (7e8922) — 11/1/2008 @ 3:12 pmComment by liesntyranny — 11/1/2008 @ 3:07 pm
You and sniffles should be a tag-team.
Another Drew (7e8922) — 11/1/2008 @ 3:13 pmWhat really is your point? How is this Aunt issue another reason to bash on Obama? You guys are losing it! Just hang in there. This torture will be over in 72hours. Now, breath in and out…..(that’s it)…….Now say after me. “President Barack Obama.” “President Barack Obama..” “PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA!” “PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA!!”
love2008 (0c8c2c) — 11/1/2008 @ 3:18 pmTruthandjustice : It is obivious that reading comprehension is not your forte.
There is no report by a legislative committee regarding “Troopergate.” The committee released an investigator’s report.
That report was not examined by the committee nor was there any attempt to verify either the facts claimed by the investigator to be true or the conclusions reached by the investigator.
The whole report boils down to no crime was committed and there is no real evidence of an ethics violation. The investigator merely “believes” that Sarah Palin might have felt undue satisfaction in the “firing.”
longwalker (dda662) — 11/1/2008 @ 3:19 pm“And you will give proper respect and regard to the new president of these United States…”
I’ll give respect and regard to Barack Obama on the same day that pigs learn to fly.
Whether he’s president or not.
Dave Surls (5804db) — 11/1/2008 @ 3:22 pmI’m sure President Obama will do just fine without your “rspect” Dave.
snuffles (677ec2) — 11/1/2008 @ 3:26 pmSemantics Longwalker.
truthnjustice (d99227) — 11/1/2008 @ 3:29 pmWhoa whoa whoa! No evidence of ethics violations? Were you reading the Hannity report on Palin’s troopergate or the actual report?
truthnjustice (d99227) — 11/1/2008 @ 3:30 pmSomeone has just found and posted a copy of a very rare Weather Underground Newspaper called Osawatomie, which was published by the Ayers-Dohrn wing of the group.
Curiously, the newspaper reveals that the Weather Underground logo has remarkable similarities to the Obama logo. More important is the section entitled “Revolutionaries Must Be Organizers.”
Official Internet Data Office (184273) — 11/1/2008 @ 3:31 pm“What really is your point? How is this Aunt issue another reason to bash on Obama?”
Because he makes $4.2 million a year, and the rest of us have to pay to support his illegal alien aunt, while we make $75,000 a year (what I made last year) and also support our families on our own dime.
Because your new messiah is a fat hypocrite, and a parasite on society.
How’s that for reasons?
Dave Surls (5804db) — 11/1/2008 @ 3:36 pmI See Moose:
You sound like Colonel Klink moosey, which it so happens is just the way I’ve always pictured you looking anyway…
Peter (e70d1c) — 11/1/2008 @ 3:36 pmI don’t have a new messiah, Dave. Do you?
truthnjustice (d99227) — 11/1/2008 @ 3:37 pmColonel “I See Moose” Klink
Peter (e70d1c) — 11/1/2008 @ 3:39 pmThe Obamas paid far more taxes than you did, Dave.
Doesn’t that make you the parasite?
snuffles (677ec2) — 11/1/2008 @ 3:45 pmThe worst day in the world will be the one where the “true believers” find themselves on the way to the “re-education camps”, as always happens in a Marxist society.
Bye, sniffles;
Bye, lovie;
Bye, liesntyranny.
Worst for them anyway, I’ll be feeling pretty good when I get the news up in the mountains.
Another Drew (7e8922) — 11/1/2008 @ 3:57 pmsniffy
is a 25 year old traffic ticket the same as a 3 year old felony?
The human condition is that we all sin, and sin is like a withdrawal on one’s moral bank account — assuming that one has opened one in the first place. You make amends, promise to do better, KEEP that promise and make deposits on the account.
The one thing that Jews and Christians have over amoral Leftists is they don’t believe humans are perfect nor perfectable. Religion is NOT there to wipe out human suffering but to help people cope with the suffering
Leftists never believe their own ideology is at fault for anything … they believe that humans are perfectable and society would be unicorns, kite flying and fluffy bunnies save for the nasty people who get in the way.
When religion has gone sour, it has produced great evil. There is nothing quite like religious evil (and the true meaning behind “thou shall not take the Lord’s name in vain) … it brings religion and God into disrepute.
But for sheer body count and rivers of blood, you can’t quite match the Left who has strived to replace God with The State.
Ethical monotheism with the tenet that all humans, imperfect as they are, are born equal in the sight of God, is the animus behind the American values that Obama and cult want to fundamentally change. They want equality of outcome ie egalitarianism. If someone suffers anywhere, even mere discomfort, it is always the fault of the non-leftist/non-egalitarian people. People who need to be silenced one way or another in a post-partisan Obama-unified, all belief in one ideology nation.
McCain’s sin against his wife is between him and her. He has more than made enough subsequent deposits in his moral bank account to put him in the black.
sniffy, like ephebohile Maher, refuses to even go into the bank. It makes their own sins easier for them to bear…just as Leftist mass murderers – Che, Stalin, Pol Pot, can wave away the blood.’
It isn’t like their victims are real authentic human beings.
Like dKos/Puffington/pandagon/firedoglake et al applaud and encourage the personal distruction of people who dare question The One.
Darleen (187edc) — 11/1/2008 @ 4:32 pmNo, snuffy, not if I paid as high or a higher percentage of my income in taxes as Obama did….
If that’s true, and I’ll be it is, then he’s as much of a parasite as I am in your eyes….
reff (556669) — 11/1/2008 @ 4:40 pm“… Che, Stalin, Pol Pot, can wave away the blood.’
It isn’t like their victims are real authentic human beings…”
“The death of one man is a tragedy, a million deaths are but a statistic.”
“Why should I fear The Pope, how many Divisions does he have?”
Another Drew (7e8922) — 11/1/2008 @ 4:41 pmA man’s true measure
Pious Agnostic (b2c3ab) — 11/1/2008 @ 5:06 pmIs what he gives of his need.
Trolls still stink on ice.
Obama’s woeful aunt… in a taxpayer funded apartment… with a taxpayer funded donation… returned by the Obama campaign because she’s here illegally.
It’s Sniffles and that glue again! No wonder he’s got Carol McCain on his mind – – who should be voting for Teh Socialist, no? But she’s not. Obviously from your posts you care about her. Do keep her advice in mind when you’re in the booth: McCain-Palin. Just like your lady, Mrs. McCain. Show some class.
Vermont Neighbor (c91cfe) — 11/1/2008 @ 9:52 pmas the buddist monks got their shiny skulls thwacked open..the press waited breathelessly[sp?]
pdbuttons (359493) — 11/2/2008 @ 9:10 ambelow the dali-lamas 5 star-parisian- hotel balcony waiting for a comment